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Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 07:18 PM
For my first post i would like to explore the subject: What is our administration going to look like



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VP - ??

Chief of Staff - Lew Rockwell

Defense - Charles Pena

Nat Sec - William Lind

Press - John Stossel

FBI - Judge Napalitano

Treasury - I wish Harry Browne was still with us, Walter Williams

State Dept - Ivan Eland

AG - Scott Horton?? Need some one to go after the crimes of the past 20 administrations.

Commerce - eliminate or not??

Energy - none 'cause its gone

ATF - no mas, you f'ing murdering sons-of-bitches. you better watch out for the Paul A.G.

Education - I hear crickets chirping


Help me out here? What else people?? Other\better suggestions?? Where does Bumper fit in to this admin?

asgardshill
12-22-2007, 07:20 PM
Put in Walter Williams over at Treasury. IMO, not a better choice to be had.

Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 07:24 PM
Put in Walter Williams over at Treasury. IMO, not a better choice to be had.

im good with that except i would have to have a long conversation with him about his occupation\war thoughts. that is my principle concern

Tom228
12-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Would Ron Paul really get rid of the Department of Commerce, since the Federal Government does have the power to regulate Commerce. It's even stated very clearly in the Constitution.

Article 1 Section 8

"The Congress shall have Power... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

Antonius Stone
12-22-2007, 08:19 PM
if we reach across the aisle for Dennis to be VP, I would reach across to have Barack as a diplomat as well... probably for the "department of peace" that Dennis wants to create to counterbalance the dept of defense.

Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Would Ron Paul really get rid of the Department of Commerce, since the Federal Government does have the power to regulate Commerce. It's even stated very clearly in the Constitution.

Article 1 Section 8

"The Congress shall have Power... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;"

fair question....

i dont know dr. pauls view on this, but i suspect he leans in this possible direction:

clearly the commerce clause was not intended to be used for what it is today, and if it were to survive i would think there wouldn't be enough to do as a single cabinet level department. rather maybe it could become a division of the fbi, as the dea was at one point. (side note - good riddance to the dea)

i hope many cabinet positions will be eliminated all together, with some downsized and placed as divisions of others (with the future intent of trying to get rid of as many as possible).

so who would you pick to head this division??

susano
12-22-2007, 08:36 PM
I don't know where you'd put her, but Catherine Austin Fitts would be a great asset.

Her website: www.solari.com

Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 08:37 PM
if we reach across the aisle for Dennis to be VP, I would reach across to have Barack as a diplomat as well... probably for the "department of peace" that Dennis wants to create to counterbalance the dept of defense.


i like the peace thing. but another department and all that entails that, imo, is the last thing we need.

how about this as an alternative: "Special Undersecretary of Peace" or "Special Peace Envoy" as a conjunctive to the state department. he works closely with the sec of state.

i do have problem with barak and his statements about bombing pakistan and iran. more long conversations would be needed. barak is also no real friend to the constitution as correctly stated by another member.

susano
12-22-2007, 08:37 PM
http://www.solari.com/blog/

susano
12-22-2007, 08:38 PM
Kucinich would be a great secy of state

forsmant
12-22-2007, 08:41 PM
Kucinich and Obama are not champions of the constitution. Therefore, they would not be a good addition to the Paul Administration. There should be no department of peace. We believe in limited government, so creating a new bureaucracy to counter an old one would be hypocritical of Ron Paul's ideology. We would be paying taxes to two groups of people that would be at odds?

Jokingly I think he should have Ice Cube or Snoop Dogg as VP, to deter would be assassinations. I think that would deter "terrorists" as well. You know Snoop would just blow the hell out of them.

forsmant
12-22-2007, 08:43 PM
Kucinich would be a great secy of state

Kucinich would be a great city council member.

Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 08:47 PM
Kucinich and Obama are not champions of the constitution.

you are correct. i chose kucinich for one reason only - the occupation. but as i think about it heaven forbid he becomes president. off he comes

i dont like barak.

yes, we need to eliminate as many departments as possible.

susano
12-22-2007, 08:53 PM
Kucinich and Obama are not champions of the constitution. Therefore, they would not be a good addition to the Paul Administration. There should be no department of peace. We believe in limited government, so creating a new bureaucracy to counter an old one would be hypocritical of Ron Paul's ideology. We would be paying taxes to two groups of people that would be at odds?

Jokingly I think he should have Ice Cube or Snoop Dogg as VP, to deter would be assassinations. I think that would deter "terrorists" as well. You know Snoop would just blow the hell out of them.


hahaha, Snoop for Veep! I love that.

You're right. We want to get RID of bureaucracy, not add to or maintain it.

forsmant
12-22-2007, 08:54 PM
What do you have against the Shift button?:(

Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 09:02 PM
What do you have against the Shift button?:(
im a $hitty, lazy typist - less keys i use the better.

O.K. Is this better for you.:D

--now back to the topic :)

Antonius Stone
12-22-2007, 09:13 PM
Kucinich and Obama are not champions of the constitution.

yes, but they are specialists in their field, and the degree of specialization is what's important when it comes to choosing Cabinet members.

The only reason I don't support Obama for president is because he doesn't know anything about Monetary policy and Economics. The president needs two wings to fly- a good foreign policy and a rock solid understanding of Economics. Just because Obama doesn't know economics doesn't mean he's not a good diplomat.
Obama is a very strong charismatic speaker with an attitude of respect and a strong understanding for the meaning of "compromise"- he just doesn't understand Economics yet, and until he does he won't be a good president. Serving as secretary of State (or "Peace", better yet) will temper that.

also, as per the Department of Peace proposal- I agree, we have to cut down the size of government bureaucracy, but we also have to increase efficiency- get more bang for our buck.

IMO, one of the best ways to do this is to create a Department of peace. Now I'm not talking about creating a huge new department and funding and all that shit- the reality of it is that the Department of Peace already exists as a sort of subsidiary of the Department of Defense. That doesn't make any sense to me. The Department of Defense exists to maintain the military and keep tabs on the international community. The secretary of Defense should be a hawk; somebody that is former Armed Forces that doesn't take shit and knows how to kickass when the time comes. Somebody with the background, history and (until recently) record of John McCain would be appropriate for the Secretary of Defense.

The problem/disconnect is that currently the department of Defense is a think tank responsible coming up for all kinds of different ways of "defending" America. The same bureaucracy that thinks up the Military Contingencies and War Games Iraq is also contemplating the "peaceful" missions of Diplomacy and Humanitarian aid, etc etc... don't you see a bit of a problem with that mentality? A house divided against itself cannot stand. The Hawks and the Doves should have separate departments because they are after all formulating very different solutions.

From what i've seen, about 10-20% of the Department of Defense is just Military-Industrial Complex Pork, fat that can be cut right off the side of the cow.
After that, another 20-30% can be cut away and separated into a Department of Peace. After that, the individual "Peace" and "Defense" departments could probably further scale down- cut off unneeded parts of the bureaucracy and eliminate redundancy.

In the end, separating the Department of Peace from the Department of Defense would probably increase efficiency, savings and overall cut down the size of the bureaucracy.

InRonWeTrust
12-22-2007, 09:15 PM
Defense will be Michael Scheuer. Ron has mentioned him.

Independent Operator
12-22-2007, 09:58 PM
Defense will be Michael Scheuer. Ron has mentioned him.


I saw that interview too. I think he just threw those out on-the-spot, but he is a good choice. I think he also mentioned something about Stossel and something to do with comsumer issues or something, but i think John would make a great press secty.

Scheuer could head the CIA. Wait, Im not sure, doesn't Ron want to dump the CIA??

Rebel Resource
12-22-2007, 10:38 PM
I don't know where you'd put her, but Catherine Austin Fitts would be a great asset.

Her website: www.solari.com

Hell yes.

Also Cynthia McKinney