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giskard
07-09-2007, 01:58 PM
This page talks about a speec at the CFR:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

"At the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations in November 2005, Senator Obama called for: ..."

paulitics
07-09-2007, 02:03 PM
Very much indeed. As is Edwards, Kerry, Giuilani, Thompson, Clinton, Carter, on and on.. any major candidte or president in the last...god knows. Steponallofus is one too as well. Curious.

Lord Xar
07-09-2007, 02:04 PM
what is the CFR and what its signifiance... :-)

MGS
07-09-2007, 02:14 PM
what is the CFR and what its signifiance... :-)

Heres some of their latest "work".

http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf

RonPaulGetsIt
07-09-2007, 02:14 PM
what is the CFR and what its signifiance... :-)

I cut and pasted this from freerepublic.com message board

“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England… (and) …believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton

“Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy

“Roosevelt was surrounded by members of the various Communist movements… At the Yalta and the Tehran conference, where the acquisition of half of Europe by the Soviets was formalized by treaty after WWII, who was Roosevelt’s top advisor? Alger Hiss, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations who was later convicted of espionage as a Soviet spy.”
- “New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies”, by William T. Still, p. 171

“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the USA. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ‘ammunition,’ as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.”
- Curtis Dall, ex-President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law

“Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, (or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected.”
- James MacGregor Burns, Council on Foreign Relations member, 1984

“The sovereignty fetish is still so strong in the public mind, that there would appear to be little chance of winning popular assent to American membership in anything approaching a super-state organization. Much will depend on the kind of approach which is used in further popular education.”
- 1944 Council on Foreign Relations Report

“The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966

“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what’s really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the ’security community’ with a common ‘outer security perimeter…. [ie] wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada… at this … meeting [3-23-05]… President Bush pinned the epithet ‘vigilantes’ on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona… the CFR document calls for ‘a seamless North American market’ and for ‘the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico.’… adopting a ‘tested once’ principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards…. putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system. … a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges…. supervision by a North American Advisory Council of ‘eminent persons’.”
- The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had financed Hitler.

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto-determination practiced in past centuries”
- David Rockefeller, Member CFR, in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, of Standard Oil, Chase Manhattan and the Council on Foreign Relations, from his Memoirs in 2002.

“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”
- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

“The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.”
- Richard Gardner, CFR member writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR’s journal, Foreign Affairs.

“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..”
- President Bill Clinton, CFR Member USA Today–3-11-93

http://www.freecentury.com/2007/06/13/the-cfr-and-the-2008-presidential-candidates/ (http://www.freecentury.com/2007/06/13/the-cfr-and-the-2008-presidential-candidates/)

mport1
07-09-2007, 02:16 PM
Who cares? Stop with the conspiracy theories.

Lord Xar
07-09-2007, 02:24 PM
oh. so this is the NAU and SPP group?

If so, this is not conspiracy. This is all in Corsi's book, right?

Didn't Corsi suggest that the next step for "them" to promote this NAU endeavor would be to fund mexico....? Didn't I just see that some people in congress is supporting a bill that would pump hundreds of billions of dollars in mexico?

naw, i don't think this is conspiracy.. read Corsi's book.

monotony
07-09-2007, 02:25 PM
How are quotes from former CFR members labeled conspiracies?! This is the plan, and they are carrying it out quite efficiently.

RonPaulGetsIt
07-09-2007, 02:33 PM
The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline (Paperback) by James Perloff (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/103-8447243-7940668?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=James%20Perloff) is worth a read.

Dan Klaus
07-09-2007, 02:34 PM
The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations and the American Decline (Paperback) by James Perloff is worth a read.


Beat me to it...agree its a good read and has a very good overview of the CFR...

purepaloma
07-09-2007, 02:37 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_on_Foreign_Relations

They are the backers of the North American Union & Amero.
Here is the link to the Amero talk on CBNC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

and a book from the CFR's website: http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/building_a_north_american_community.html

paulitics
07-09-2007, 02:37 PM
How are quotes from former CFR members labeled conspiracies?! This is the plan, and they are carrying it out quite efficiently.

I agree its important because the shamnesty bill included many provsions to intgrate the economies while greatly weakening our border security and eradicating American Sovereignty. The POS could have passed if it wasn't for the likes of Lou Dobs or other "conspiracy" guys educating enough people to rally against it. This is not about alien abductions, this is about reality of what is going on today and it effects this country greatly. Conspiracy it is not, reality of why our poliiticians have disenfranchised us, yes.

kalami
07-09-2007, 02:40 PM
Would you guys be opposed to loss of sovereignty if Democracy and economic prosperity remained intact?

RonPaul2012grassroots
07-09-2007, 02:53 PM
Would you guys be opposed to loss of sovereignty if Democracy and economic prosperity remained intact?

Loss of sovereignty = feudalism and the loss of all property rights, including the right to arms as a means of self-defense against criminals and tyrants.

rg123
07-09-2007, 03:04 PM
and here is what you have to look forward too if you keep thinking its a conspiracy
theory. Montagraph does a wonderful job here to try and open some people's minds to the reality that is our world to come and keep in mind Ron has talked about the New World Order many times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKR5uEGT8I

A NWO soldier This should make you re-think using illegals for the war in Iraq
as they will become the NEW POLICE

austinphish
07-09-2007, 03:05 PM
To answer your question: Obama is CFR.

The CFR is a conspiracy, but not in a theoritical sense.

Wyurm
07-09-2007, 03:42 PM
Who cares? Stop with the conspiracy theories.

First, they are not conspiracy theories. A theory suggests it might not exist.

www.spp.gov

http://www.cfr.org/

http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2kjsy2Z3kdI

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2006/tst103006.htm

and this is a House Resolution against the NAU that has not been passed yet: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.CON.RES.40:

Its all well and good to jump at every single thing that the MSM has made look even slightly like a conspiracy theory and say "Lets not worry about that tin-foil hat stuff", but the thing is RP is talking about it, congress is talking about it, there is a government site dedicated to it, and the organization behind it has published their plans for it.

So calling this a conspiracy theory is like standing in a burning house and saying its just a bit warmer than normal but there's no way you're going to believe the theory that the house might be on fire.

jd603
07-09-2007, 04:17 PM
It's not a theory sir. The CFR is for one-world government and a lot of these candidates are members. It's very real and the mainstream media even started to report on it due to this immigration bill.


Who cares? Stop with the conspiracy theories.

UtahApocalypse
07-09-2007, 04:22 PM
The thing that is starting to annoy me is blanket labeling EVEYONE that isn't Ron Paul or one of his supporters as CFR. I seriously doubt that 1/3 of the people that get claimed to be members of it are.

Think of it this way. CFR is supposed to be the "elite" and a secretive select few.... if this is the case how is it that I see a dozen different new names mentioned each day? In all honesty the more people that get named as members, The CFR is starting to sound credible to me :(

jd603
07-09-2007, 04:26 PM
Definitely. You cannot trust LARGE centralized government, it goes against everything our founding fathers wanted and with good reason. Most of the people who take part in such things are breaking US law anyway. ...and if they are willing to break US law and go AGAINST what the people want to establish this type of government, then quite clearly they are NOT for democracy and are corrupt.




Would you guys be opposed to loss of sovereignty if Democracy and economic prosperity remained intact?

jd603
07-09-2007, 04:34 PM
Sorry but you're wrong.

Search for candidates on www.cfr.org , all of the top-tier candidates are CFR members. The only thing I haven't confirmed myself is if some of these members are joining just to go AGAINST them, but you'd wonder why anyone would do that.. but other than that there's no excuse for these politicians to join.

also search, hillary cfr, cheney cfr on youtube for examples. especially the cheney one, he acts very sinister when he speaks.

Credible? Sure they are credible, they are a legitimate organization, a legitimate organization that goes against the United States of America and its people and wants a one-world government.

Their claim is one-world government will "end war" , "end poverty" , "make us safer" , please, there are CFR members who are directly linked to FUNDING wars and more importantly, nobody in this country approved this group of "elites" to have any oversight over our way of life but they still try to force their will on us.

Ron is actually very, very aware of them and how they are deadly to our nations sovereignty, this could be why some media outlets are shunning him.



The thing that is starting to annoy me is blanket labeling EVEYONE that isn't Ron Paul or one of his supporters as CFR. I seriously doubt that 1/3 of the people that get claimed to be members of it are.

Think of it this way. CFR is supposed to be the "elite" and a secretive select few.... if this is the case how is it that I see a dozen different new names mentioned each day? In all honesty the more people that get named as members, The CFR is starting to sound credible to me :(

ThePieSwindler
07-09-2007, 04:36 PM
Would you guys be opposed to loss of sovereignty if Democracy and economic prosperity remained intact?

Sure, i'd also love to live in a theocracy ruled by God Himself. It'd be great, but never going to happen. If we give up sovereignty, it will be for slavery and tyranny.

ThePieSwindler
07-09-2007, 04:38 PM
The thing that is starting to annoy me is blanket labeling EVEYONE that isn't Ron Paul or one of his supporters as CFR. I seriously doubt that 1/3 of the people that get claimed to be members of it are.

Think of it this way. CFR is supposed to be the "elite" and a secretive select few.... if this is the case how is it that I see a dozen different new names mentioned each day? In all honesty the more people that get named as members, The CFR is starting to sound credible to me :(

Well, CFR is the upper levels or politics, but not the !!!!GLOBAL ELITE!!!! Some members of the CFR aren't necessarily bad. The trilateral commission is the real power behind the dissolution of sovereignty, but the CFR is still a private policy-making council with globalist intentions.

jd603
07-09-2007, 04:42 PM
Right, then there's the "bilderberg group" :)

i don't know much about them , except that they exist, and it doesn't sound like they are pro-USA in any way. more globalists?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group




Well, CFR is the upper levels or politics, but not the !!!!GLOBAL ELITE!!!! Some members of the CFR aren't necessarily bad. The trilateral commission is the real power behind the dissolution of sovereignty, but the CFR is still a private policy-making council with globalist intentions.

rg123
07-09-2007, 04:53 PM
What is the CFR?

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is similar to Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs. Both groups got started around 1920 by a particular group of people, such as Edward Mandell House. These are people who wanted to create Israel.

Unlike the Bilderberg meetings, the CFR is an actual organization that exerts some influence over our government.

However, the CFR formed after the Federal Reserve system, World War I, Theodor Herzl's founding of the Zionist movement, and the establishment of the Rothschild's banking empire.

Therefore, the CFR is not the criminal network; rather, it is simply one of many organizations that has been set up by the network.

The network can easily have some of their organizations exposed, and even destroyed, but the network will remain. If the CFR is forced to shut down, the criminals can immediately create another organization with a different name.

PatriotOne
07-09-2007, 04:53 PM
Members of the CFR are treasonous and traitors to America. Their loyalties lay with the globalists who want One World Government and are willing to cause harm to America to get it. One example is the loose restrictions on our Southern border over the years. It was on purpose. They allowed 12,000,000 to 20,000,000 illegal aliens into this country and even enticed them by providing welfare benefits to them at American's expense. They were purposely creating a seemingly hopeless situation in America. At the same time this was all happening, Bush was making deals with Canada and Mexico to form the NAU without any oversight of Congress or the American people. When challenged on it, they just called it a conspiracy theory. Now it's goten so far along, they can't even deny it anymore.

If any of the CFR members become President (Obama, Thompson, Giuliani, Clinton, etc.), we can all say hello to the NAU and the Amero) within the next 4 years.

If all this sounds like it might be a good idea, then ask yourselves why this is being done without our knowledge (shouldn't American's have a say in their own country anymore?) and then go start researching who the people are behind the One World Order because this is just a chess move for them...like the European Union was.

PatriotOne
07-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

Let’s start with the smoke and mirrors furnished by the CFR in several of their Annual Reports. Then we will provide the other-side-of-the-coin, as observed by quite a number of independent researchers, and writers.

The CFR’s Annual Report for July 1, 1993-June 30, 1994, page 4, states:

"The Council on Foreign Relations is a nonprofit, and nonpartisan membership organization dedicated to improving the understanding of US foreign policy, and international affairs through the exchange of ideas.


The Council was founded in 1921 shortly after the end of World War I. Several of the American participants in the Paris Peace Conference decided that it was time for more private American citizens to become familiar with the increasing international responsibilities, and obligations of the United States. This decision led to the creation of an organization dedicated to the continuous study of US foreign policy for the benefit of both its members, and a wider audience of interested Americans."


Now, the other side of the coin.


The New World Order, by Pat Robertson, Copyright 1991, by Word, Inc., Dallas, Texas. All rights reserved, page 66-67, states:


"This august body of ‘wise men’ has effectively dominated the making of foreign policy by the United States government since before World War II. The CFR has included virtually every key national security, and foreign policy adviser of this nation for the past seventy years."
Page 96: "In government policy, the most visible expression of the Establishment is the Council on Foreign Relations, and its publication, Foreign Affairs. Out of some twenty-nine hundred members, at least five hundred are very powerful, another five hundred are from centers of influence, and the rest are influential in academia, the media, business, and finance, the military, or government. A few are token conservatives."


Page 97: "According to a man who had been a member for fifteen years, Rear Admiral Chester Ward, former judge advocate general of the navy from 1956 to 1960.
‘This purpose of promoting disarmament, and submergence of US sovereignty, and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government is the only objective revealed to about 95 percent of 1,551 members [in 1975]. There are two other ulterior purposes the CFR influence is being used to promote; but it is improbable that they are known to more than 75 members, or that these purposes ever have even been identified in writing.’


The goals of the Establishment are somewhat strange, and we will discuss them in detail. At the central core is a belief in the superiority of their own skill to form a world system in which enlightened monopolistic capitalism can bring all of the diverse currencies, banking systems, credit, manufacturing, and raw materials into one government-supervised whole, policed of course by their own world army." (Could this be the army of the United Nations?)

CFR membership is made up of present, and past Presidents, Ambassadors, Secretaries of State, Wall Street investors, international bankers, foundation executives, Think Tank executives, lobbyist lawyers, NATO, and Pentagon military leaders, wealthy industrialist, media owners, and executives, university presidents, and key professors, select Senators, and Congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Federal Judges, and wealthy entrepreneurs.

They hold regular secret meetings including members, and very select guests. Occasionally they will hold a public meeting, and invite the open press (including C-SPAN), in order to give the impression that they are a harmless group engaged only in social activities.

A number of people, when hearing about the CFR ask, "If you say that the CFR is such a secret organization, why is it that we can get a copy of their annual report, which contains a list of their members? Why should I believe you when you say that they are a secret organization?"

Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, states that the definition of attribute is "To ascribe by way of cause, inherent quality, interpretation, authorship, or classification..." The literal translation is "You had better not tell the outsiders what we do, or say".
The answer then comes from their own document, the Council on Foreign Relation’s 1992 Annual Report, where they emphatically state, in 20 different places, and in varying terms, that members better not tell:

Page 21: "At all meetings, the Council’s rule of non-attribution applies. This assures participants that they may speak openly without others later attributing their statements to them in public media or forums, or knowingly transmitting them to persons who will."


Page 122: "Like the Council, the Committees encourage candid discourse by holding their meetings on a not-for-attribution basis".


Page 169: Article II of the by-laws states: "It is an express condition of membership in the Council, to which condition every member accedes by virtue of his or her membership, that members will observe such rules, and regulations as may be prescribed from time to time by the Board of Directors concerning the conduct of Council meetings or the attribution of statements made therein, and that any disclosure, public, or other action by a member in contravention thereof may be regarded by the Board of Directors in its sole discretion as grounds for termination or suspension of membership pursuant to Article I of the by-laws."


Page 174: "Full freedom of expression is encouraged at Council meetings. Participants are assured that they may speak openly, as it is the tradition of the Council that others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media or forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will. All participants are expected to honor that commitment."


Page 175: "It would not be in compliance with the reformulated Rule, however, for any meeting participant (i) to publish a speaker’s statement in attributed form in a newspaper; (ii) to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker’s platform, or in a classroom; or (iii) to go beyond a memo of limited circulation, by distributing the attributed statement in a company or government agency newspaper. The language of the Rule also goes out of its way to make it clear that a meeting participant is forbidden knowingly to transmit the attributed statement to a newspaper reporter or other such person who is likely to publish it in a public medium. The essence of the Rule as reformulated is simple enough: participants in Council meetings should not pass along an attributed statement in circumstances where there is substantial risk that it will promptly be widely circulated or published."


... "In order to encourage to the fullest a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas in Council meetings, the Board of Directors has prescribed, in addition to the Non-Attribution Rule, the following guidelines. All participants in Council meetings are expected to be familiar with, and adhere to these Guidelines. ..."


Page 176: "Members bringing guests should complete a "guest notice card", and acquaint their guests with the Council’s Non-Attribution Rule governing what is said at meetings."

Later on page 176: "As a condition of use, the officers of the Council shall require each user of Council records to execute a prior written commitment that he will not directly or indirectly attribute to any living person any assertion of fact or opinion based upon any Council record without first obtaining from such person his written consent thereto."

In "A letter from the Chairman" in the 1994 Annual Report for the CFR, Peter G. Peterson states on page 7, that:


"... Members had occasion to meet in intensive off-the-record sessions with Secretary of State [Warren] Christopher, National Security Advisor [Anthony] Lake, Secretary [of State emeritus, George Pratt] Shultz, Ambassador [Mickey] Kantor, Under Secretary of the Treasury [Lawrence H.] Summers, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and other ranking officials. Next on our agenda are plans for reaching out to congressional leaders as well, an opportunity we will fashion as one component of an enhanced Washington Program."

The CFR’s 1999 Annual Report, page 5, states their three goals:


1. Add value by improving understanding of world affairs and by providing new ideas for US foreign policy.


2. Transform the Council into a truly national organization to benefit from the expertise and experience of leaders nationwide.


3. Find and nurture the next generation of foreign policy leaders and thinkers.
These are "THEIR" words, not mine. I am simply reporting these facts to you. If this is not a secret organization, then why would they be so emphatic, and state in 20 different ways that non-attribution (or you better not tell) was so important, in their very own annual report? In addition, if you are proud of what you say, and do, then you don’t care whether it becomes public knowledge, or not. The other side of this coin is: if you are doing something illegal, immoral, unethical, unpopular, and/or unconstitutional, you will do whatever is necessary to see that it is kept secret.

In his book, "The ANGLO-AMERICAN ESTABLISHMENT", Dr. Carroll Quigley writes,

"One wintry afternoon in February 1891, three men were engaged in earnest conversation in London. From that conversation were to flow consequences of the greatest importance to the British Empire, and to the world as a whole. For these men were organizing a secret society that was, for more than fifty years, to be one of the most important forces in the formulation, and execution of British imperial and foreign policy.

The three men who were thus engaged were already well known in England. The leader was Cecil Rhodes, fabulously wealthy empire builder, and the most important person in South Africa. The second was William T. Stead, the famous, and probably also the most sensational, journalist of the day. The third was Reginald Baliol Brett, later known as Lord Esher, friend, and confidant of Queen Victoria, and later to be the most influential advisor of King Edward VII, and King George V.

The details of this important conversation will be examined later. At present we need only point out that the three drew up a plan of organization for their secret society, and a list of original members. The plan for organization provided for an inner circle, to be known as "The Society of the Elect", and an outer circle, to be known as "The Association of Helpers". Within The Society of the Elect, the real power was to be exercised by the leader, and a "Junta of Three". The leader was to be Rhodes, and the Junta was to be Stead, Brett, and Alfred Milner. In accordance with this decision, Milner was added to the society by Stead shortly after the meeting we have described."


- Quigley, Carroll (1910-1977), The Anglo-American Establishment, From Rhodes to Cliveden, 1981, Books In Focus, NY, NY pg. 3

Of the Secret Societies goals, and methods of operation Quigley writes, "The goals which Rhodes, and Milner sought, and the methods by which they hoped to achieve them were so similar by 1902 that the two are almost indistinguishable. Both sought to unite the world, and above all the English-speaking world, in a federal structure around Britain. Both felt that this goal could best be achieved by a secret band of men united to one another by devotion to the common cause, and by personal loyalty to one another. Both felt that this band should pursue its goal by secret political, and economic influence behind the scenes, and by the control of journalistic, educational, and propaganda agencies... - " Quigley, Carroll (1910-1977), The Anglo-American Establishment, From Rhodes to Cliveden, 1981, Books In Focus, NY, NY pg. 49

Between 1910-1915 the Secret Society evolved into an international group of coconspirators called Round Table Groups that were established in seven nations: Britain, South Africa, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, India, and the United States. (The British Round Table was actually created in England in Feb. 5, 1891. In the US it is called the Council on foreign Relations, in England it is the Royal Institute for International Affairs, in Canada the Canadian Institute of International Affairs, in Chile it is the Chilean Council on Foreign Relations, and so on.)

In 1920 the Secret Society evolved into the Institutes for International Affairs, and the Council on Foreign Relations. Many of the founding fathers belonged to America's first intelligence agency the INQUIRY.

Note - The above quotes were furnished by "Round Table", who has a web site at: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807

The CFR could not accomplish their goals without complicity of the mainstream news media, which they absolutely control with an iron fist. They do this using psychological operations (PSYOPS). The RAND Corp. is one of the chief users of this technique. This is clearly explained by the following Internet message:

"Not many people have heard of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) or know how they operate. This is not an accident, the group has purposely maintained a low profile. The CFR is a branch of an international group of coconspirators called the Round Table Group. This group has been controlling public opinion throughout the world for over 100 years.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff have defined psychological operations (PSYOPS) as those that: "include psychological warfare, and, in addition, encompass those political, military, economic, and ideological actions planned, and conducted to create in neutral or friendly foreign groups the emotions, attitudes, or behavior to support achievement of national objectives." Another proposal "develops the concept of 'strategic psychological operations' as aimed at influencing, and shaping decision-makers' power to govern, or control their followers." The American people, are among the groups being targeted, and controlled.

"Tactics of Deception" are formalized psychological warfare techniques. "Tactics of Deception" build a psychological environment that differs from the material environment. "Tactics of deception" are used to create false reality worlds. In terms of perceptual psychology, "Tactics of Deception" provoke illusory precepts. To influence behavior the deception must follow three basic rules. First, the deception must be "reasonable"; second there must be no simple way of checking the facts in the case; and third the use of deception should not discredit a source which may have valuable future potential.

One way to stop this group is to expose them, and their techniques to the people they are manipulating. One "Tactic of Deception" used to achieve Council on Foreign Relations aims, is to place Council members on both sides of an issue. Another "Tactic of Deception" is to use CFR control of the legal, legislative, and court systems to create the perception that laws are being followed when in fact, Lawyers, Legislators, and Justices are committing blatant illegalities to further CFR aims. A third "Tactic of Deception" is simply to lie."

Source: roundtable’s Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807

Another excellent example of deception and cover up is the book, "The Kennedy Tapes". Two CFR members, Ernest R. May and Philip D. Zelikow, supposedly listened to all of President John F. Kennedy audio tapes and wrote this book quoting all of the interesting facts so as to assure the public that there were no other important statements made on these tapes that the public would care to know about. There were to motives involved here: (1) to print only what the Elite wanted printed about the JFK assassination, and (2) to throw any other potential researchers off the trail. This was a very grueling task of listening to hundreds of hours of taped conversations. Therefore, other researchers should just "take their word" that they had printed all of the interesting facts from these tapes. I suspect that two non-CFR researchers would have written an entirely different book.


Historian Michael Beschloss listened to the White House tapes transcribed by Lyndon Johnson during his time in office, and wrote a book, "Taking Charge: The Johnson White House Tapes, 1963-1964". Is it not strange that this author is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations?


As Peter Grose stated in his Council on Foreign Relations Book, Continuing the Inquiry (1996) on page 5:
"They (the British) proposed a permanent Anglo-American Institute of International Affairs, with one branch in London, the other in New York."

The headquarters for the CFR is The Harold Pratt House located at 58 East 68th Street in New York City, New York 10021. Oddly enough, this building is located just across the street from the Russian (former Soviet) Embassy.

WannaBfree
07-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Who cares? Stop with the conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theory?!

Dick Cheney Speaks To The CFR (video)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=412617264635445048

rg123
07-09-2007, 05:18 PM
your right patriot probably within 4 yrs. The immigration bill was a NAU bill to fast track implement by 2010 the Flake bill before it in the house erased all borders to the bottom of central america to panama and the chinese own the ports in mexico along the trans texas corridor they would bring in probably 200 million more people into the country creating a slave labor pool that would rival china basically reducing all of us to slaves with our chipped technology to purchase anything we need and the power to shut off anything we need. Let us not forget Bush still has his trump card with the Presidential directive to declare Martial law must pay attention everyday or your money may get trapped in the bank

buffalokid777
07-09-2007, 05:35 PM
Also the CFR promotes it's ideas through the media by handing out memberships for people in the media as rewards for promoting the ideas.

This gives people in the news media to reach into a network of the elite for a job well done.

I only think ABC let Ron Paul on This week so CFR Member George Stephnoulous could try to make Ron Paul look bad...

In a few of the shots...It looked like George was sneering at Ron Paul....

I also think that It's Not Gonna happen statement was pre dispositioning the public that Ron Paul can't win. They did the same thing to Mike Gravel...that's the way the CFR plays ball. By having members in high place in the media...It makes them much easier to manipulate media to the public.

They knew to try shove the NAU without the American people knowing. The CFR knew americans wouldn't go fo it.

I think the only one who on Televison that isn't a CFR sellout is Lou Dobbs.

Man from La Mancha
07-09-2007, 06:29 PM
A very important topic. Where do our leaders loyalty lie, certainly not with the US Constitution. Our leaders, admitted traitors.

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michaelwise
07-09-2007, 07:08 PM
It's not a conspiracy because too many people know what their agenda is, as stated by Rockefeller himself;
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto-determination practiced in past centuries”
- David Rockefeller, Member CFR, in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991

If there was a Michael More or Aaron Russo film about the CFR, public knowledge would improve, and people who have little knowledge on the subject, wouldn't be so quick to make tinfoil hat comments on the subject.

guntherg16
07-09-2007, 07:18 PM
The John Birch Society has the Council on Foreign Relations listed under their "Documentable" conspiracies.

http://www.jbs.org/conspiracy


Claim: The Council on Foreign Relations and its sister organization the Trilateral Commission are the most visible elements of a powerful and largely submerged global elite working to consolidate political and economic control over the world

Status: Documentable

“Some [ideological extremists] believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will,” wrote David Rockefeller on page 405 of his Memoirs. “If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”...

http://www.jbs.org/node/147

poppop_schell
07-09-2007, 07:29 PM
There is a time and place to bring up the CFR and other groups that believe in One World Government and care little about the Constitution. Let Ron Paul decide when that time is... STICK TO THE BASIC MESSAGE OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR NOW. PLEASE!!!!

poppop_schell
07-09-2007, 07:30 PM
If there was a Michael More or Aaron Russo film about the CFR, public knowledge would improve, and people who have little knowledge on the subject, wouldn't be so quick to make tinfoil hat comments on the subject.[/QUOTE]


Aaron Russo has a film doesn't he on America's Move to Facism?

PatriotOne
07-09-2007, 08:13 PM
There is a time and place to bring up the CFR and other groups that believe in One World Government and care little about the Constitution. Let Ron Paul decide when that time is... STICK TO THE BASIC MESSAGE OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR NOW. PLEASE!!!!

Don't you think the message of Freedom and Liberty would have a little more impact if people knew what their Government traitors were up to? Ya know....things like we are only a signature away from Bush declaring himself a dictator and implementing a Police State and losing all our rights under the Constitution and that disidents will be put in one of those nice new concentration camps that have been being built in the U.S. by the Haliburton sub-contractor KBR for the past 7 years at the tune of 385 million per year? And if it doesn't happen during Bush term, it will under the next CFR protege President?

Geez.....it's really no wonder why more people aren't aware of what bad shape we are in right now with people being so afraid to deal with our reality or talk about it because of what others might think of us or that everything we say just sounds too nuts to even contemplate. Of course the Government has conditioned society for a long time now that when they say "conspiracy theory" and those who repeat it for them to think those who talk about it are nuts. And yet the evidence is all there regardless for those who are willing to spend time looking at it and are able to add 2 + 2.

But let's just avoid the issue all together..ya know, like they did in Hitler's days. That worked out well, eh?

Wyurm
07-09-2007, 08:33 PM
There is a time and place to bring up the CFR and other groups that believe in One World Government and care little about the Constitution. Let Ron Paul decide when that time is... STICK TO THE BASIC MESSAGE OF FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR NOW. PLEASE!!!!

Like it or not, Ron Paul has already brought it up several times. Look, I know its a touchy subject for some, the biggest problem is that this power grabbing is exactly why we are losing our liberties. Being aware of this is what will help us defeat it. Pretending it doesnt exist, or saying "don't look at the man behind the curtain" doesn't help.

The basic message is freedom. Freedom means not being controlled. Thus, if we are not free, someone must be trying to control us. How can you break free if you don't know who is trying to control you or why?

PatriotOne
07-09-2007, 09:06 PM
Ooops...wrong video.

Original_Intent
07-09-2007, 09:42 PM
The thing that is starting to annoy me is blanket labeling EVEYONE that isn't Ron Paul or one of his supporters as CFR. I seriously doubt that 1/3 of the people that get claimed to be members of it are.

Think of it this way. CFR is supposed to be the "elite" and a secretive select few.... if this is the case how is it that I see a dozen different new names mentioned each day? In all honesty the more people that get named as members, The CFR is starting to sound credible to me :(

Actually the CFR is quite large, it is not a secret society like many of the smaller organizations you hear bandied about here such as the Bilderbergers, Bohemian Grove (I don't even know what that one is) and others.

The CFR pretty much anyone who is anyone in the news media, and many in government are members and their membership is not secret so it is easy to verify who is and isn't in it.

It's funny how people see things like CFR and trilateral commision and think "conspiracy theory!". Still some lingering conditioning I guess.