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Starks
07-09-2007, 01:29 PM
Just curious.

herepamwas
07-09-2007, 01:32 PM
I was a disillusioned independent who voted for democrats. Glad I woke up.

ChairmanMao
07-09-2007, 01:33 PM
Monarchist

Tsoman
07-09-2007, 01:35 PM
I guess I agree with liberals in some minor ways, like the environment. But I agree with Dr. Paul on most everything else.

ne1buthilary
07-09-2007, 01:37 PM
i would most likely be voting for obama if it weren't for ron paul being in the race

Broadlighter
07-09-2007, 01:42 PM
I always believed they were for Individual rights. Then I had a rude awakening in 1996. Clinton signed into law the Communications Decency Act of 1996. Then I understood that Democrats were more about pushing there agenda than they were about following the Constitution (unless it supports their agenda).

Before that I just assumed the Republicans were about establishing a police state.

No one makes any sense, except Ron Paul.

damijin
07-09-2007, 01:46 PM
I formerly identified as a liberal based on looking at politics without a great understanding of the history of our country or what liberal foreign policy means in the long term.

I'm also young, so by the time I started getting interested in politics, the Bush administration was what my mind identified as 'conservative' and 'republican', this of course is a complete lie. My family still identifies as liberal, and my grandparents have been registered democrats since the day they could vote, but I'm helping to get them interested in Dr. Paul.

nunaem
07-09-2007, 01:46 PM
I'm politically a libertarian, but I would rather vote for a democrat or liberal over any non-Paul republican.
I learned about Paul on Bill Maher, if that gives you any idea.

damijin
07-09-2007, 01:49 PM
Also yes, I agree with nunaem, I would be more likely to vote democrat than non-Paul republican for this election especially. Only because I think democrats hearts are in the right place when it comes to fixing our countries' image around the world in the short term, even if they do have some really dumb socialist agenda for us.

beermotor
07-09-2007, 01:50 PM
I am a classical liberal anarchocapitalist.

Nickel
07-09-2007, 01:53 PM
If Ron Paul wasn't in the race I would be supporting Edwards or Obama.

;)

paulitics
07-09-2007, 02:00 PM
If Ron Paul wasn't in the race I would be supporting Edwards or Obama.

;)

I would support then over shim.
:eek:

http://www.topplebush.com/humor/billary.jpg

nunaem
07-09-2007, 02:00 PM
I used to think my ideals of anti-war, pro-drug, pro-freedom of speech policies resonated most with the democratic party, I was wrong, and many vote democratic today on that wrong assumption, we need to tell these people about libertarianism.
Not to disparage democrats, I still think they're the lesser of two evils.

walt
07-09-2007, 02:08 PM
disillusioned independent - last candidate I cared about was Paul Tsongas (there are some common issues he shares with Dr. Paul)

His book, which he handed out by hand in the pre-Internet era IS SCARILY RELEVANT 15 YEARS LATER.

Here is the text of that book - we should use parts of it to convince open minded Democrats to step over...
http://www.cheslog.com/craig/parrhesia/tsongascall.html

What our country needs is not just a President - but a
President with the necessary mandate. In many respects the
mandate to correctly change our course is more critical than
which party will oversee that change from the White House. - Paul Tsongas, A Call to Economic Arms, 1991

CodeMonkey
07-09-2007, 02:15 PM
I've been a libertarian, and I was planning on campaigning for the LP's candidate this election, just out of principle to raise 3rd party awareness. Dr. Paul stole the show for me though... I'd rather vote for a libertarian dressed as a republican than a libertarian with no chance of winning.

janeuner
07-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Paleoconservative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism) <-- me

johnrocks
07-09-2007, 02:27 PM
I'm pretty much a reincarnated Barry Goldwater...with a twist:D

monotony
07-09-2007, 02:29 PM
I would have voted democratic for sure.

guynamedjohn
07-09-2007, 02:38 PM
socially liberal, fiscally conservative. I'm an independant, but I can generally stomach the democrats more than the republicans. Ron Paul is the first candidate I've EVER been passionately enthusiastic about.

Bradley in DC
07-09-2007, 02:40 PM
Liberal in the tradition of Lord Acton, Hayek, Mises, et al.--I like to think of myself as a "liberal with class."

"The program of liberalism, therefore, if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property, that is, private ownership of the means of production... All the other demands of liberalism result from his fundamental demand." (http://www.mises.org/liberal.asp)
German edition, 1927; latest English edition Copyright 1985 The Foundation for Economic Education, Irvington, NY. Translation by Ralph Raico. Online edition Copyright The Mises Institute, 2000.

RonPaulCult
07-09-2007, 04:06 PM
I've been a green for the last 8 years

I voted for Nader in 2000

I swapped my vote with somebody in NYC who was voting for Kerry in 2004. He voted for Nader in NY for me and I voted for Kerry in PA for him (because I couldn't stand seeing 4 more years of Bush)

This year I was supporting Kucinich (as I did in the primaries four years ago) until I saw what a huge movement there was for Ron Paul. It's my belief that he can WIN that has me registered as a republican for the first time in my life.

Plus the more I hear about him the more I like him and believe in his message.

BuddyRey
07-09-2007, 05:29 PM
I am liberal in most every way, except I'm against globalisation and Central banking, and pro-states' rights.

ADGettis
07-09-2007, 09:51 PM
I'm 100% conservative, but because I don't tow the party line, many of my Republican neocon friends have accused me of being a liberal.

It's funny – back at the University of Minnesota I was an occasional columnist for the conservative paper, and the "conservative" readers would write to tell me to go back to the DFL where I belong, and the liberal readers would write to tell me how much they appreciated my reasonable argument, even though they adamantly opposed the beliefs for which I argued.

Thor
07-09-2007, 10:01 PM
I was a young Republican (Regan was in office when I was too young to vote, but old enough to be aware), who got excited by Perot's first run, then laughed at his second run and became a Libertarian and voted as such a few times.

Now, 10 years ++ later, I am sick and tired of the go no where Libertarians who enter a race with the mind set of getting 1% with their self defeating mentality; and I want to see real change.

I wanted Ventura to step up to the plate, and would still like to see him as a VP or involved somehow with the name recognition and 80% libertarian belief system he holds.

But if Dr Paul does not make it to the ticket, and Obama or Clinton (or another neo-con) are our next POTUS, I think I will look to moving out of this land. As the Big Brother arms will only grow longer and stronger without Paul for President. And I am afraid 2012 will be too late.

DeadheadForPaul
07-09-2007, 10:12 PM
I'm an independent/Constitutionalist. Ive voted Repub, Dem, and Libertarian. I go to the honest candidate and Ron Paul is our man

Giuliani was there on 911
07-09-2007, 10:57 PM
I'm what they call a "bleeding heart" liberal

aravoth
07-09-2007, 11:04 PM
recovering neo-con

ThePieSwindler
07-09-2007, 11:54 PM
But if Dr Paul does not make it to the ticket, and Obama or Clinton (or another neo-con) are our next POTUS, I think I will look to moving out of this land. As the Big Brother arms will only grow longer and stronger without Paul for President. And I am afraid 2012 will be too late.

Where are you going to? Don't say europe or canada! Places are JUST as bad. Unles you go to like, an independant island, youll just be getting more of the same.

New to politics here (18, just registered Repub), been researching the NWO, globalists, powers that be, et al. and that subject for a while, and found Ron Paul to be so inspiring and brave and principled. I was also an "obama supporter" though now i realize he is a globalist shill, socialist... and VOTED FOR THE PATRIOT ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RED FLAGS!! WOOWOO!!!!!!! Ron Paul all the way, never lookin back.

Politically id say im a paleoconservative/constitutionalist/individualist anarchocapitalist (listed in descending order of realistic viewpoints in todays world)

Thor
07-10-2007, 07:01 AM
Where are you going to? Don't say europe or canada! Places are JUST as bad. Unles you go to like, an independant island, youll just be getting more of the same.

You are right. It is a tough call. Maybe get a Canadian citizenship (so I am not scorned elsewhere), then move to New Zealand. (Then I don't have to pay taxes on NZ income). NZ is not any freer though. Hell I don't know. But things will just get worse here if we get a Socialist or New-Con in there....

Costa Rica is nice too, but hot.

It will be a shame if America, the USA, completes the evolution into Amerika, the USSA. The evolution that has already begun.

Dr Paul is our only hope.