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moostraks

12-20-2007, 09:33 AM

Ack...Anyone seen this smear job today:mad:
ht tp://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/blog/g/2409da96-e99b-4c3b-8695-c9aa6114332c

THis guy is such a pain.

dare me

12-20-2007, 09:37 AM

yeah i read that. Does that letter sound completly fabricated to you too?

MrCobaltBlue

12-20-2007, 10:05 AM

"Bill White" wonder if he knows Don Black? I like Ron's view on it, when they donate their money they won't be doing anything hateful with it, the campaign is using it to spread the words of peace.

Also, Why is this such a big deal? Huckabee let a rapist out of prison so he could go and rape (and kill) again. As well as let several murderers out of prison and his son tortured a dog. But Ron Paul's the bad guy because some dude donates to his campaign?

i2ambler

12-20-2007, 10:29 AM

Interesting that the guy starts the letter out with "comrades" .. alrighty then... Next they are saying that he is a communist.

MrCobaltBlue

12-20-2007, 10:30 AM

Interesting that the guy starts the letter out with "comrades" .. alrighty then... Next they are saying that he is a communist.

They already call him a Democrat.

DaronWestbrooke

12-20-2007, 10:41 AM

This is all dirty tricks. Some so-called conservatives like big government. But you knew that already. RP is threatening to them, when he challenges the orthodoxy of big government Republicans. The interests which depend on a big spending government are fighting back. Fighting dirty, too.

hard@work

12-20-2007, 10:43 AM

these guys are going to be trying to pump this. We knew it was coming we just didn't know when. And, here it is.

DaronWestbrooke

12-20-2007, 10:46 AM

The volume and frequency of the attacks indicate just how worried they are.

DaronWestbrooke

12-20-2007, 10:12 PM

In another addition to the attempt to connect Dr. Paul w/ Nazis, Little Fraud Footballs has produced pictures of Dr. Paul with the founder of Stormfront and his son.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28353_Ron_Pauls_Photo-Op_with_Stormfront

Who wants to bet this is photoshopped?

DaronWestbrooke

12-20-2007, 10:13 PM

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/pictures/20071220RonPaulDonBlack.jpg

DrJimiJon

12-20-2007, 10:14 PM

I have pictures of Ron Paul meeting with all sorts of his supporters. What's he supposed to do, quiz them on all of their ideological beliefs and do a thorough vetting process before taking pictures?!

LinearChaos

12-20-2007, 10:15 PM

Nothing to see at LFG. Just a bigoted straw grasping circle jerk.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=61579

Give me liberty

12-20-2007, 10:16 PM

Little greenfootballs is a site for nerds and neocons wanting to get away from the real world,
also its not checkmate.

I think the guy who took the photo with ron paul he wanted to destory ron paul chances, and even giveing him a bad name to.

Doriath

12-20-2007, 10:19 PM

http://www.republicanvoices.org/bush-cheney.jpg

Any questions?

daikonv

12-20-2007, 10:20 PM

who cares.

1) this was taken after a crowded debate
2) people walk up to dr. paul for pictures and autographs constantly
3) do you think he screens people every time and asks them if they are white supremacists?

This is non-news being spun as something interesting.

imbrians89

12-20-2007, 10:22 PM

dawnbt

12-20-2007, 10:25 PM

It's real and there is proof that this is a set-up.

This was on THE DAILY PAUL today along with a picture of RP with Don Black. It appears that the stormfronters and the LGF are in kahoots! Makes sense since neither want us to get out of Iraq!
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/16071

Here is the Little Green Footballs website with the article and picture
h ttp://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

AND HERE IS PROOF THAT IT IS A SET UP!! According to this the Stormfront and Little Green Footballs are in kahoots!

h ttp://www.villagevoice.com/news/0046,ladd2,19934,6.html

LinearChaos

12-20-2007, 10:36 PM

AisA1787

12-20-2007, 10:39 PM

Oh my gosh Ron Paul is a white supremacist!!!!! :mad: How could he have fooled us all for so long?!! <--sarcasm

LinearChaos

12-20-2007, 10:48 PM

I smell a conspiracy:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/whitesupremicistisisraelishill.php

I think all of this is related.

Xanax Nation

12-20-2007, 11:26 PM

http://www.republicanvoices.org/bush-cheney.jpg

Any questions? Yes. Where exactly is Cheney's hand? :D

Xanax Nation

12-20-2007, 11:36 PM

Wait a minute. This was at the Values Voters Debate? The V V debate touted by world net daily as the one that showed them that Huck was their answer to a prayer? What in the hell was Black doing there? I really call BS now.

dawnbt

12-20-2007, 11:40 PM

Nothing to see at LFG. Just a bigoted straw grasping circle jerk.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=61579

LMAO!

DrJimiJon

12-20-2007, 11:48 PM

Listen guys, the best and only thing to do about this is forget about it. This is old news, and its a total bullshit non-issue. It's a sign that we're in the lead. This will only stay alive if we keep it alive. Ignore it.

tropicangela

12-21-2007, 12:05 AM

Good Game :( I am still voting for him since I already registered as a republican, As a hispanic American my eyes are tearing right now. They truly are, i have never been this depressed before about someone that i dont personally know. I really am so depressed right now good game :(

I know you don't think RP is a WS... this crap is just getting you down (and other RP supporters.) The $hit hit the fan and if this is the worst thing they can dig up about Ron Paul then God bless him. He's been in Washington way too long to have gotten away with this nonsense. We know he's a good man... if he wanted to rule the world along with a WS, he wouldn't want the federal government out of everyone's lives. Damn haters...

ronpaul1

12-21-2007, 12:35 AM

littlegreenfootbals is:
* owned by charles johnson, a friend of don black.
* littlegreenfootbals has won awards from isreal/jewish rights groups.
* littlegreenfootbals has been labeled a hate site by arab and muslim groups.
* Charles Johnson also owns pajama media
* pajama media is on the payroll of Fred Thompson.

nwfla4ronpaul

12-21-2007, 12:48 AM

Think rationally about this. Dr. Paul takes a picture with two strangers. That's it. This is not a story.

Minuteman

12-21-2007, 01:04 AM

kahless

12-21-2007, 01:12 AM

Who are these people that cannot connect that candidates meet thousands of people and donations from hundreds of thousands of people. Are they suppossed to pre-screen everyone they sign a autograph with? What bs!

Crickett

12-21-2007, 01:30 AM

First they ignore you
Then they fight you
then.....

sasha_2008

12-21-2007, 01:33 AM

Don Black is a Bush supporter and neo-con shill.

lasenorita

12-21-2007, 01:57 AM

I still can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would give some trash talking white supremacist more credibility than a Congressman who has a 30-year record of advocating the rights and liberties of all individuals. *shakes head*

libertyadvocate

12-21-2007, 02:12 AM

The writer of the letter is known as a man who accuses people of being white supremecists to get press and attention. He's constantly trying to drum up support for various white power groups he creates. Apparently even other white supremecists think he's scum (which is really really saying something).

libertyadvocate

12-21-2007, 03:16 AM

I smell a conspiracy:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/whitesupremicistisisraelishill.php

I think all of this is related.

It was just a blogger who'd pulled the screenshot and had the tool installed, not Bill White. I don't think this is a conspiracy, just one angry moron looking for free publicity.

literatim

12-21-2007, 03:42 AM

"Bill White" wonder if he knows Don Black? I like Ron's view on it, when they donate their money they won't be doing anything hateful with it, the campaign is using it to spread the words of peace.

From what I gather, most of the WNers hate Bill White because he is an opportunist and a liar. Supposedly he was a Communist first then tried to attach himself to the Libertarian Party as some weird Communist Socialist Nationalist Libertarian hybrid. VNN seems to be where most the trash of the movement collects and Stormfronters hate it.

Hangly Man

12-21-2007, 04:35 AM

Ok so he's a white supremacist, and supposedly Ron Paul is a white supremacist and they agree on everything so rather than keeping it a secret he writes this email to try to damage his chances of winning?

Allegation does not pass basic anti-stupid test.

rockwell

12-21-2007, 10:27 AM

i2ambler

12-21-2007, 10:32 AM

I wonder if someone is paying these white supremacists to try and wreck Ron Paul's campaign. It seems pretty silly - Don Black donates, and someone finds out (someone is sifting through every name of every donor that has sent to Ron Paul?) Now magically a photo is sent out with Ron Paul and the ex KKK member together, and signing an autograph. It all seems fishy to me, especially when this photo supposedly was on Stormfront.

I mean, I know racists are stupid as hell - but to draw attention to your idiotic believes and glomming onto a candidate is a pretty obvious way of wrecking that candidate's bid, dont you think? To be sure, that photo will end up on every news site available. We need name recognition, but we dont need his name to be associated with "Nazis" like everyone wants to associate him with.. I talked to a friend of mine who was really swayed to the side of being a ron paul fan, and read some news about this and has changed his mind, and actually called him a 'Nazi' so .. this isnt exactly something to be taken lightly.

MrCobaltBlue

12-21-2007, 10:40 AM

George W. Bush's grandfather laundered money for the Nazis but its a huge scandal that Ron Paul had his picture taken with one. Its not like he's saluting Hitler in the picture...

rockwell

12-21-2007, 10:50 AM

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/smug_hill.jpg

This is Hillary Clinton standing in THE WHITE HOUSE, right next to Jorge Cabrera, a major cocaine smuggler and a man who donated $20,000 to the DNC.

I'm not giving you anything more, do your own grunt work, but between Don Black's paltry $500 and his COMPLETELY LEGAL ACTIVITIES and Drug Kingpin's $20,000 donation which story do you think is more important? Why is your beloved media glomming on the one and ignoring the other?

This obsession with what people will think, what the media will say, how aunt Millie's toy poodle will be affected by this NON-ISSUE is indicative of a lack of intelligence and discernment, not of anything else.

KILL YOUR TV.

CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION TO THE NEWSPAPER.

THINK FOR YOURSELF.

JPFromTally

12-21-2007, 10:54 AM

Do you really think that Dr. Paul would be elected to Congress 10 times if he was any kind of bigot? It's absolutely ridiculous.

unklejman

12-21-2007, 10:57 AM

This was posted on a forum I am on in a thread called: Ron Paul seems to be the choice for extremist white supremacists

Neo-Nazis Say: Ron Paul is One of Us (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28341_Neo-Nazis_Say-_Ron_Paul_is_One_of_Us&only)

UPDATE at 12/19/07 5:52:00 pm:
Charges for the Tara Thai restaurant show up on this page listing DISBURSEMENTS FOR RON PAUL 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE. (http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/Q3/C00432914/B_PAYEE_C00432914.html)

(Hat tip: Render.)

UPDATE at 12/19/07 6:50:25 pm:
More corroboration of the neo-Nazi’s claim: Extremist Group Announces Speech by Congressman. (http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/)

The Robert A. Taft Club, a group headed by a man with a network of racist connections, has announced that a U.S. congressman, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), will address the group this Thursday at a restaurant in Arlington, Va.

He has spoken there before.
http://roberttaft.org/paul.htm (http://roberttaft.org/paul.htm)

Victrix

12-21-2007, 11:17 AM

LinearChaos

12-21-2007, 11:19 AM

Alex Jones is ALL over it.

LinearChaos

12-21-2007, 11:20 AM

Turn on Alex Jones, right now.

Quick

12-21-2007, 11:26 AM

This was taken from that racist forum that originally caused all this.

"There may be some confusion here between two restaurants in Arlington with similar names. I know for a fact that at different times in the past, both David Irving/AMREN and the National Alliance held several meetings at SALA THAI restaurant in Arlington. I don't know whether AMREN or other alleged "racist" organizations hold "regular" meetings at TARA THAI."

And even if they did meet at Tara Thai, on Wednesdays, here is FEC proof Ron Paul never ate there on Wednesday.

http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2007/12/20/tara-thai-ron-paul-and-white-supremacists-fec-report-data/

Oh, and the Robert A. Taft club head is half Asian, half Jewish.

Quick

12-21-2007, 12:08 PM

If you see a blog that is making these claims, feel free to use this.

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Regarding Don Black, Stormfront, and the $500 donation:

"We know that he's not a white nationalist. He says he isn't and we believe him, but on the issues, there's only one choice," Black said Wednesday. "We like his stand on tight borders and opposition to a police state," Black told The Palm Beach Post earlier.

Source: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hp_7eNYJJfvcUXW2po0M40ePbMeQD8TKRLCG0

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Regarding the picture of Ron Paul and Don Black:

"First, this is an old picture from a Ft. Lauderdale public gathering, and Ron Paul wasn't screening everyone he posed with for political correctness. But more importantly, I'm not bald! I'm the guy in the middle. As previously pointed out, Kent Snyder is in the top left." -Don Black

Source: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=61579

If you want to provide picture proof, it has to be a picture of Ron Paul sitting down having dinner with these type of people. No such picture exists because it never happened.

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Video of Ron Paul denouncing neo-nazi type groups and the donations they send:

PBS Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_UBMO9XPec
Fox News Interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqPhrqllHzY

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The alleged confession of a neo-nazi claiming Paul has come to many meetings (warning, it is a hateful site): http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=63682

Most of the responses don't even believe the guy, and a lot of them claim that he is doing this to smear Ron Paul.

I also found this on the exact thread: "There may be some confusion here between two restaurants in Arlington with similar names. I know for a fact that at different times in the past, both David Irving/AMREN and the National Alliance held several meetings at SALA THAI restaurant in Arlington. I don't know whether AMREN or other alleged "racist" organizations hold "regular" meetings at TARA THAI."

Also it should be noted that the Tara Thai resturant that is referred here is a block (or so) away from the Ron Paul campaign HQ in Texas.

Proof that the alleged Wednesday night dinners with some neo-nazi group are false:
FEC Report Proof: http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2007/12/20/tara-thai-ron-paul-and-white-supremacists-fec-report-data/

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And, why not. Here is information regarding that newsletter decades ago that was written under Ron Paul's name

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=41822

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As you can see, lies such as those being made about Ron Paul and ties to any hate group are easy to disprove. Why? Because a lie is a lie.

Shink

12-21-2007, 12:34 PM

This shit is so stupid. I can go to a Ron Paul rally and get a pic with him because HE'S NICE AND DOES IT FOR EVERYONE. Does that mean he's an atheist? Does it make him pro-choice? Does it make him a veteran of 3-325 Airborne Infantry Regiment? Does it mean he hates vegetables, has degenerative disc disease, dips his Ritz crackers in cottage cheese? NO.

literatim

12-21-2007, 12:39 PM

When you attack the source, at least do it right or you will just discredit yourself. The Bill White issue has zero to do with Don Black.

skeptic

12-21-2007, 08:01 PM

I believe that these WS groups are totally infiltrated by both the FBI and Morris Dees' Southern Poverty Law Center. There was even a story earlier this year about a WS group trying to stage a rally in Orlando. It turns out that the guy leading the effort was a paid informant! My bet is that it is either a dirty tricks job by another Republican or someone associated with SPLC.

When this sort if thing happens it discourages me - at first. But every time Ron Paul has been the victim of an unfair attack, he comes back stronger!

FireofLiberty

12-22-2007, 03:41 AM

Oh my God, they actually are trying to make The Robert A. Taft Club out to be some kind of "racist organization"!? LOL! C-SPAN was there to cover his speech there for Christ sake!

FireofLiberty

12-22-2007, 06:25 AM

http://www.drmenlo.com/lgfquiz/

Heh, check this out.

raiha

12-22-2007, 04:15 PM

Sorry to be crude but whenever i think of Little Green Footballs all i see is snot

xao

12-22-2007, 09:20 PM

Oh my God, they actually are trying to make The Robert A. Taft Club out to be some kind of "racist organization"!? LOL! C-SPAN was there to cover his speech there for Christ sake!

The marxo-fascist zionists at little green footballs are just doing there job pushing the neocon message and calling everyone who agrees with Ron Paul a nazi. Except this time they've been caught working with them. It's the same thing the MSM media does. Call everyone you don't agree with an evil "nazi", you don't want to give aid to Israel? Oh! you're a nazi!

Yep, Ron Paul only cares about the security of America. Let's stop using our tax dollars to prop up socialist governments in chaotic parts of the world while prices skyrocket and our borders remain open here at home.

How Horrible! A presidential candidate who cares about his own nation. Gosh! He must be a nazi!