LibertyTV

[Minuteman]

ok all, I asked Bryan to set up this subforum so everyone can kinda get on the same page instead of 3 or 4 projects with the same goal doing different things.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[xao]

My main issues. Freeom of Speech. Truth must be heared. No politically correct news.


"Patriot News"

No leftwing Marxist garbage and no Neocon(ex trotskyite) crap!

Just Patriot style news, period!

imo

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[xao]

If it's anything like world link tv or some other god aweful marxist/socialist program, such as "democracy" now then it will fail.

I want to see A Patriot style news site. No left, no right, just truth.

[AceNZ]

The focus has to be independent news. Ron Paul is going to need help in Congress. Our goals should include supporting not just him, but like-minded candidates. The message should be Freedom, Prosperity and Peace.

We are competing for the ideology of Middle America. To do that, we need a voice that will be heard without being filtered by the likes of CNN and Fox News.

Here are a few ideas, from another thread on this subject:

-- Tentative initial financial goals: $10M cash plus $417K/month in subscription fees (10,000 donors at $1,000 each plus 8,340 subscribers at $50/month for 24 months)
-- The usual setup with a website to collect donations, etc, and to provide info about the project
-- Organization form is TBD, but a structure where initial donors are part-owners would be ideal. Public companies are very expensive to setup and maintain. Maybe a limited partnership? A 501(c)(3) non-profit seems appealing on the surface, but they aren't allowed to support a particular political candidate.
-- Donations should be concrete, not pledges. As the Blimp project showed, pledges are an unreliable way to raise money.
-- Look into setting up an escrow service of some kind, so that if the funding goals aren't reached by a certain time, donations will be returned. The service could be paid for with interest earned on the donations. Limited funds should be released from escrow upon the achievement of specific goals, spelled out in advance.
-- How to get the word out? Do we have access to meet-up members or other RP supporters? Of course there are the traditional mechanisms, youtube, etc. Lots of room to be innovative here.
-- Work on the final website could start early. If it's done before fundraising is finished, perhaps the Internet side would come to life to a limited extent before the live broadcast side -- which might in turn attract more support.
-- Donors should be involved in and informed about business decisions. Discussion and voting could be done through an online forum.
-- People who contribute time or materials instead of cash should be entitled to compensation in the form of increased ownership.
-- Solicit early advertiser commitments. If successful, they could offset the required amount of fundraising.
-- Produce a couple of example shows, to give people an idea of what we're aiming for. Maybe one with news and one with viewer-provided video clips.
-- Generate and evolve a business plan, which would be published on the website for open review. This involves a tremendous amount of detail work -- collecting price quotes, researching licensing issues, building a budget, identifying potential staff, etc.
-- Establish a volunteer network. Reporters, video editors, writers, etc. Start producing sample content for the website.

[literatim]

It needs to be considered what type of organization it will be created as: non-profit, for-profit, etc.

I think it should be called R-evolve. :)

[RonPaulCult]

I have a university degree in media production and real world experience directing newscasts for a cbs affiliate.

If this project ever gets of the ground I would be happy to help in any way I can.

Please feel free to contact me privately. I will do my best to stay active in this subforum.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[user]

Is this the project to start a news network? I posted about this before, but I think it should have an open pro-liberty bias with high quality news coverage. Let the viewership numbers rise slowly if that's what happens, the quality is more important. For example, even if you don't like PBS and NPR, you have to admit they're not covering Britney Spears's sister's pregnancy every 2 minutes.

[frasu]

i was coming across of this site, maybe is of use as inspiration... the format looks very well, although close to current TV:

http://www.therealnews.com/web/index.php

[hawkeyenick]

I have a university degree in media production and real world experience directing newscasts for a cbs affiliate.

If this project ever gets of the ground I would be happy to help in any way I can.

Please feel free to contact me privately. I will do my best to stay active in this subforum.

Why not contribute early? If it takes off, you'll have the benefit of getting in early.

[xao]

Is this the project to start a news network? I posted about this before, but I think it should have an open pro-liberty bias with high quality news coverage. Let the viewership numbers rise slowly if that's what happens, the quality is more important. For example, even if you don't like PBS and NPR, you have to admit they're not covering Britney Spears's sister's pregnancy every 2 minutes.

Socialist/culturally-marxist outlets such as Pbs and Npr are often sponsored by oil companies.

[hawkeyenick]

i was coming across of this site, maybe is of use as inspiration... the format looks very well, although close to current TV:

http://www.therealnews.com/web/index.php

This is heavily left-leaning, and they just don't have the donor network like we do.

We have the advantage of being small and the free market of ideas will allow us to innovate and dominate.

[AceNZ]

It needs to be considered what type of organization it will be created as: non-profit, for-profit, etc.

As mentioned in an earlier post, non-profits are forbidden from supporting a particular political candidate. Although there are tax advantages of going that way, it seems clear that this needs to be a for-profit entity.

With that in mind, it might be worth including something about how profits will be used in the company by-laws. Options might include returning them to the limited partners every year, or perhaps donating all or part to people running for office who support the pro-liberty perspective. It's a little tricky, because investing the profits in growing the company should probably be the first priority -- which means there shouldn't be anything left at the end of the year to distribute or give away, at least in the early years.

The by-laws should include several other important clauses, too. Things like prohibiting a buy-out or merger with companies that have anti-liberty views.

BTW, in case you're not familiar with US securities law, there are some legal challenges that will need to be addressed here before any serious money can be accepted. A private company can only sell stock to "knowledgeable" investors -- defined to be high net-worth individuals who are deemed able to assess and accept the risk. I believe the rules are less restrictive with a limited partnership, but there are still issues when it comes to advertising for investors.

For everyone itching to buy a domain name and start building a website, I would like to say please slow down. Building a website is the easy part, trust me. The hard part is the content side, and figuring out the details for things like the bylaws, the investment vehicle and structure, and even an informal business plan. How do we even know what to say on the website until that work has been done? Accepting donations before that would be irresponsible.

[Minuteman]

Agree wth Ace.

There are many things that need to be discussed on a business planning level before we jump the gun and ask for investors or start making websites.

I started another thread so everyone can start tossing ideas out there for a business model.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[hawkeyenick]

I agree with Ace on just about everything except the website part. I think the website should begin as early as possible for testing and development.

I draw a distinction between the technical side and the business planning side.

Technical innovation will occur much faster with a bunch of smart geeks solving problems without the influence of regular business constraints. And I think the project would innovate much faster if geeks just start collaberating and have a go at it.

I am a big fan of the open source software market. It has proven to be a successful business model as well. There already is an open source internet tv project that can save an immense amount of time launching this project. I highly encourage anyone interested in this project to check out this technology.

http://participatoryculture.org/

here is the developer side
https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/

I am more in favor of beginning the testing early. There will probably be additional tools that will need to be devloped since even this unique open source project is in its infancy.

Also by testing early and having a controlled demo there will be more input given into refining the technical product and the overall look and feel while a formal business plan is developed.


I think this is 100% true, we own the internet and aren't held down by the beaurocracy so we can innovate and compete like no other. Get to testing the format, then work on the business as we go along.

[Mark]

A couple more:

Names that have been suggested:

Probe
Under The Rock Reporting
eSleuth
Sleuth
eTV
Liberty.tv
USPatriot.tv
USContitution.TV
TBB - Torch Bearer Broadcasting
ANN - American News Netwok
BBW - Big Brother Watchdog
LNN - Liberty News Network
ADD - American Digital Dispatch
ADN - American Digiital Network
FAN - Free American (Network or News)
FFB - Founding Fathers Broadcasting
NAW - New American Wire
BDB - Bird Dog Broadcasting
freedomnetwork.tv
freemarket.tv
R-evolve
guerrillatv
insurgentnetwork
TVolution
libertybroadcast.tv
libertyscoop.tv
independencereport.com
independencedispatch.com
independencebroadcast.com
libertyshow.tv
patriotdispatch.com
patriotbroadcast.com
citizenchannel.com
citizenbroadcast.com
libertybelltv.com
libertybellnews.com
NewPress.tv
NewPressTV.com

[hawkeyenick]

A couple more:

NewPress.tv
NewPressTV.com

Neither of those make any sense as they both indicate that it's "new" even after it's not. The press part is just misleading.

[Mark]

Neither of those make any sense as they both indicate that it's "new" even after it's not. The press part is just misleading.

You may misunderstand.

1.

The "New" stands for a change from the "old" media. The Old "biased" MSM.

"Press" stand for media. Today, in a way, "Press" is synonymous with media .

e.g. "Press Conferences" - include both print and video mediums.

"New Media" was taken, so I went with "Press".

2.

The concept of the name is to deflect attention from the "Patriot" angle,
so as not to define the Network as a "political" vehicle ect.

It's meant to be "benign" and "nondescript" on purpose, so as to not indicate a political leaning.

The purpose of my proposed Network angle is to instigate a new Network
that isn't influenced by vested interests like the current Networks.

Not a Ron Paul, Liberty, or Patriot ect Network, just an unbiased one.

[Mark]

It needs to be considered what type of organization it will be created as: non-profit, for-profit, etc.

I think it should be called R-evolve. :)

1.

I suppose it depends on what type of non-profit it is, they tend to very limited in scoop by Federal regulations.

A non-profit could be used for donations in terms of tax-deductions, and then invest the proceeds in the Incorporated business.

I have an established non-profit that could be used for that purpose.

2.

Probably best to go with a LLC, or regular Corporation for the company itself.

[literatim]

As mentioned in an earlier post, non-profits are forbidden from supporting a particular political candidate. Although there are tax advantages of going that way, it seems clear that this needs to be a for-profit entity.

The object isn't to support a specific candidate. The object is to report the news objectively.

[hawkeyenick]

The object isn't to support a specific candidate. The object is to report the news objectively.

objectively to whom?

[Mark]

The object isn't to support a specific candidate. The object is to report the news objectively.

That's where there seems to be a disconnect a bit in terms of objectives, and even domain names.

Some seem to want a RP/Patriot/Liberty leaning Network/Channel, where I and others seek to form simply a non biased News Network.

[hawkeyenick]

That's where there seems to be a disconnect a bit in terms of objectives, and even domain names.

Some seem to want a RP/Patriot/Liberty leaning Network/Channel, where I and others seek to form simply a non biased News Network.

I think everyone means both.

Don't appear to be biased to the casual observer, if you do people are alienated from the start and you can't get new viewers. Hate to say it, but fox news did the right thing with the "fair and balanced" motto.

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[MN Patriot]

This is heavily left-leaning, and they just don't have the donor network like we do.

We have the advantage of being small and the free market of ideas will allow us to innovate and dominate.

The Real News website looked really good. But they claim to be "unbiased" which means they ARE biased. This really bothers me, why can't people, or in this case LIBERALS, be honest? Anyone with a brain can see you are biased, why make fools of yourself by pretending you are something you aren't?

LibertyTV will obviously be biased; whatever it calls itself, it should plainly state its' bias.

I see they already are using my idea (there is no such thing as a new idea anymore):

"The Real News can't be everywhere, but you may be somewhere news is breaking. If you see something you think is newsworthy and we should know about it, get out your cameras and record some footage. Then send us your footage using the submissions form on our Citizen Journalism page"

[MN Patriot]

I think what makes a partiotic network is the type of news covered. I don't want the news to be biased I do want objective reporting.

This might be worthy of discussion, the difference between bias and objective reporting. I think it should be clearly stated that LibertyTV is biased, but tries to be as objective as humanly possible when reporting news. Everyone has a point of view, it just happens that mine is the correct one.;)

[MN Patriot]

If candidates are compared I do not care about the warm fuzzy I want to know their positions and how those postitions stack up against the constitution.

If news is legislation I want an objective report on how the legislation conforms or contradicts the constitution.

If something contradicts the constitution I would like to see the news talk about free market alternatives.

When I think of a feature channel I could get into watching how lincoln broke the constitution and the forces at work at the time.

I could get into a feature program about how Roosevelt broke the constitution and the forces at work at the time.

It's good that we get a lot of opinions and ideas to refine the overall vision. I think it is good for people to post what their vision is and the discussion to take place. There is no such thing as a bad idea with this project.

I'm sure we could come up with hundreds of ideas for investigative types of programs and issues. Possibly a new thread topic?

What about using previously created programs, like Milton Friedman's Free to Choose videos? Many more like it out there. I'm sure there are copyright issues to address.

If this is going to be a 24 hour channel, many different topics for certain time slots, news at certain times (right after the mainstream news so we can tell the REAL story).

[xao]

That's where there seems to be a disconnect a bit in terms of objectives, and even domain names.

Some seem to want a RP/Patriot/Liberty leaning Network/Channel, where I and others seek to form simply a non biased News Network.


And what is wrong with a "patriot/liberty" leaning network?

My biggest fear is that some leftwing marxist will want to make another world link tv.

I don't know about everyone but i'd rather get back to the constitution and liberty. Not a bunch of neocon drek or marxist drivel.

[xao]

Key topics,

right to bare arms

freedom of speech, freedom of press

imininant domain

illegal fed income taxes.

etc.

[xao]

I think everyone means both.

Don't appear to be biased to the casual observer, if you do people are alienated from the start and you can't get new viewers. Hate to say it, but fox news did the right thing with the "fair and balanced" motto.

I think "Patriot" says it best because it inspires a broad spectrum americans and people know right away that you are FOR America, freedom of speech, the right to bae arms, follow the constitution and are against illegal fed income taxes, the fed reserve, etc.

[xao]

I think what makes a partiotic network is the type of news covered. I don't want the news to be biased I do want objective reporting. I would like the position of the network to be pro constitution.

If candidates are compared I do not care about the warm fuzzy I want to know their positions and how those postitions stack up against the constitution.

If news is legislation I want an objective report on how the legislation conforms or contradicts the constitution.

If something contradicts the constitution I would like to see the news talk about free market alternatives.

When I think of a feature channel I could get into watching how lincoln broke the constitution and the forces at work at the time.

I could get into a feature program about how Roosevelt broke the constitution and the forces at work at the time.

It's good that we get a lot of opinions and ideas to refine the overall vision. I think it is good for people to post what their vision is and the discussion to take place. There is no such thing as a bad idea with this project.


Best post so far.

[xao]

The Real News website looked really good. But they claim to be "unbiased" which means they ARE biased. This really bothers me, why can't people, or in this case LIBERALS, be honest? Anyone with a brain can see you are biased, why make fools of yourself by pretending you are something you aren't?

LibertyTV will obviously be biased; whatever it calls itself, it should plainly state its' bias.

I see they already are using my idea (there is no such thing as a new idea anymore):

I agree, say we follow the constitution just like Ron Paul does. It's worked for him.

[murrayrothbard]

Can the network not just be about liberty? Patriotic does not necessarily imply a commitment to liberty...

[xao]

Can the network not just be about liberty? Patriotic does not necessarily imply a commitment to liberty...


"Patriot" is better than anything else i've seen so far.

[kill the banks]

i like liberty tv ~ constitutional news and founding father views ... you can add a theme to the channel name but simple is generally best as a strong name ... ron paul revolution news could be one program as could a world and usa news report with a good patriot announcer / reporter ... major shareholders could run the business end and hire advertising officer ... you could set up your own advertising agency and gain 15 % commissions to the business group ... we need this form of news and offer it as constitutional alternative to msm getting to the public on cable / sat / stream web

kill the banks

[murrayrothbard]

i like liberty tv ~ constitutional news and founding father views ...

You mean like chattel slavery, central banking, centralization of power, mercantilism, etc? :p Sorry couldn't resist.

But really, why focus so much on the Constitution? Why not advocate liberty in general? Of course have coverage of blatantly unconstitutional actions by the government, but why give the impression that the US constitution is some perfect statement of liberty? Why not stretch people's minds a little bit...

[Mark]

And what is wrong with a "patriot/liberty" leaning network?

My biggest fear is that some leftwing marxist will want to make another world link tv.

I don't know about everyone but i'd rather get back to the constitution and liberty. Not a bunch of neocon drek or marxist drivel.

I don't remember saying that anything was wrong with it. Could it be your imagination?

I merely stated the two differing approaches. One unbiased. One with a political leaning.

I simply want to create a Network that presents news and information honestly as it is, with fair coverage for all.

Not one covering a certain "angle" such as Libertarian views.

I certainly am for the Libertarian agenda of freedom, but I don't want to be limited to that "angle".

[xao]

I don't remember saying that anything was wrong with it. Could it be your imagination?

lol Eh No, you certainly have a problem with it or you wouldn't have brougt it up.

Btw I'll never supoport your leftist style website so you can quit spamming it up here again. You've also been spamming some big money investor a lot. I watch your posts. Most people here are more REAL Republican than leftwing leaning so I don't think you will get a majority of people here to bite.

[xao]

But really, why focus so much on the Constitution? ..... but why give the impression that the US constitution is some perfect statement of liberty? Why not stretch people's minds a little bit...

Oh dear. Here we go with the marxist drivel again. Stretch peoples minds to be left leaning idiots all over again.

Ron Paul said it best, "Follow the Constitution".

[Mark]

I think what makes a patriotic network is the type of news covered. I don't want the news to be biased I do want objective reporting. I would like the position of the network to be pro constitution.

If candidates are compared I do not care about the warm fuzzy I want to know their positions and how those positions stack up against the constitution.

If news is legislation I want an objective report on how the legislation conforms or contradicts the constitution.

If something contradicts the constitution I would like to see the news talk about free market alternatives.

When I think of a feature channel I could get into watching how lincoln broke the constitution and the forces at work at the time.

I could get into a feature program about how Roosevelt broke the constitution and the forces at work at the time.

It's good that we get a lot of opinions and ideas to refine the overall vision. I think it is good for people to post what their vision is and the discussion to take place. There is no such thing as a bad idea with this project.

Right, but then you have a channel/network biased towards Constitutional subjects.

That's fine, and there's probably a huge market segment for that. But that's not what I personally had in mind.

Think CNN, MSNBC, FOX News, ABC, NBC, CBS, but with TRULY fair coverage. Honest coverage.

A channel/network with NO leanings whatsoever.

Sure, there's plenty of room for coverage of Constitutional issues/focus.

But not just that. All news. All subjects. Simply done fairly, honestly. No leanings towards a particular subject or issue ect.

Everything News.

[xao]

I believe a true patriot understands the constitution and follows it to the T. That is how our country was designed, and thats what makes it great.

Ron Paul is right.

[murrayrothbard]

Oh dear. Here we go with the marxist drivel again. Stretch peoples minds to be left leaning idiots all over again.

Ron Paul said it best, "Follow the Constitution".

Huh? What marxist drivel?

[xao]

Huh? What marxist drivel?

Okay now you're just trolling. This is what you said.

Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
>But really, why focus so much on the Constitution? ..... but why give the impression that the US constitution is some perfect statement of liberty?

[murrayrothbard]

I believe a true patriot understands the constitution and follows it to the T. That is how our country was designed, and thats what makes it great.

Ron Paul is right.

I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.

[murrayrothbard]

Don't act naive.

Well there is drivel and then there is "Marxist drivel". I was just wondering how anything I wrote could be described as "Marxist". Is that just a smear term that you use or are you aware that it actually has a meaning?

[murrayrothbard]

Okay now you're just trolling. This is what you said.

Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
>But really, why focus so much on the Constitution? ..... but why give the impression that the US constitution is some perfect statement of liberty?

Yeah but how is that Marxist?

[xao]

I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.

Ron Paul disagrees with you.

[Mark]

lol Eh No, you certainly have a problem with it or you wouldn't have brougt it up.

Btw I'll never supoport your leftist style website so you can quit spamming it up here again. You've also been spamming some big money investor a lot. I watch your posts. Most people here are more REAL Republican than leftwing leaning so I don't think you will get a majority of people here to bite.

What website? And don't tell me what to do. Whatever, I won't miss you there. Just stay away if it makes you happy, it sure will make me happy.

You brought it up xao. The same drivel you put in every post. leftist/marist ect.

WE GET IT ALREADY.

Are you drunk?

All I pointed out was two varying viewpoints. One Network with a focus. One without a focus, just honest reporting.

Reply all you want xao. But I'm done talking to you.

[xao]

Yeah but how is that Marxist?

Okay now you're just trolling. This is what you said.

Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
>But really, why focus so much on the Constitution? ..... but why give the impression that the US constitution is some perfect statement of liberty?

[xao]

What website? PaulPrayer.com?

You brought it up xao. The same drivel you put in every post. leftist/marist ect.

WE GET IT ALREADY.

Are you drunk?

All I pointed out was two varying viewpoints. One Network with a focus. One without a focus. Just honest reporting.


Are you?

You keep posting the left leaning newnews site. Grow up.

[xao]

Quote:
Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.

That says a lot really about you murray.

Ron once again would disagree with your pov.

[murrayrothbard]

Ron Paul disagrees with you.

So. I thought the discussion was about Liberty.TV, not Ron.Paul.TV

[xao]

So. I thought the discussion was about Liberty.TV, not Ron.Paul.TV

This forum wouldn't exist without Ron or the constitution.

[murrayrothbard]

Quote:
Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.

That says a lot really about you murray.

Ron once again would disagree.

What does it say?

[murrayrothbard]

This forum wouldn't exist without Ron.

Really? Is that why it's called RonPaulForums?? :rolleyes: We aren't talking about Ron Paul. We were talking about Liberty.TV

[xao]

What does it say?

That you're confused.

[xao]

Really? Is that why it's called RonPaulForums?? :rolleyes: We aren't talking about Ron Paul. We were talking about Liberty.TV

Without this forum and Ron paul's constitutional message, none of this would have happened.

You said,

Quote:
Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.


Quite frankly you come off insane there.

[murrayrothbard]

That you're confused.

No, I'm not confused. The Constitution is a PIECE OF PAPER. It is an inanimate object. It possess no volition or power of its own. How in the world anyone could expect it to somehow restrain a State is what is confusing. :confused:

[murrayrothbard]

Without this forum and Ron paul's constitutional message, none of this would have happened.

You said,

Quote:
Originally Posted by murrayrothbard
I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.


Quite frankly you come off insane there.

Insane? If the Constitution "did" what it was supposed to do then RP would be irrelevant. "None of this would have happened" if the constitution worked. It is actually the failure of it that has brought us here.

[RlxdN10sity]

How about these names? "Freedom Monitor" "Liberty Concepts" "Reality Check"

[murrayrothbard]

How about these names? "Freedom Monitor" "Liberty Concepts" "Reality Check"

I like "Reality Check". Might actually be better as a name for regular show/program/segment though...

[Minuteman]

OK, Before this turns into a debate about personal ideologies. Lets get back on topic.

My Views

Of course, you can really never have unbiased news, its an impossible concept. But, you can have objective news, and I think that is the point. I wouldnt mind pushing the box a little and report on events that may seem outside of the mainstream.

What I would really like to see, and I'm going to use Ron Paul as an example, is news that makes me think and see issues more deeply. Lets take his stance on the Civil Rights Act. On the surface it seemed like a ligtimate piece of legislation, but when you delve deeper, you come understand that it did more to divide this nation and promote racial stereotyping and racsim than it did to prevent it.

I want to make people think. I believe a large portion of this country have forgotten how to do that. I would love to see a viewer walk away from an article or program and go "How could they possible think that", but 30mins later they are going"Wait, they really does make sense".

[RlxdN10sity]

The Constitution is an agreement. A contract. The governement has breached this contract. The people have not called them on it. When you say the constitution does not work what your are saying is the people of the country have not had the knowledge and/or balls to hold the government accountable to the breach of contract. Lets now move forward to having balls and offering knowledge with a truthful, relevant news outlet.

[atilla]

Key topics,

right to bare arms



right on man! i love wearing sleeveless shirts, they show off my muscles.

i also think we should support the right to keep and arm bears.

[RlxdN10sity]

right on man! i love wearing sleeveless shirts, they show off my muscles.

i also think we should support the right to keep and arm bears.

Yeah, I intend to keep my arms since they are attatched to my shoulders and they help me reach out to things I would like to manipulate with my hands. I don't often bare them though, my muscles show quite well through my shirt anyway.

[murrayrothbard]

OK, Before this turns into a debate about personal ideologies. Lets get back on topic.

My Views

Of course, you can really never have unbiased news, its an impossible concept. But, you can have objective news, and I think that is the point. I wouldnt mind pushing the box a little and report on events that may seem outside of the mainstream.

What I would really like to see, and I'm going to use Ron Paul as an example, is news that makes me think and see issues more deeply. Lets take his stance on the Civil Rights Act. On the surface it seemed like a ligtimate piece of legislation, but when you delve deeper, you come understand that it did more to divide this nation and promote racial stereotyping and racsim than it did to prevent it.

I want to make people think. I believe a large portion of this country have forgotten how to do that. I would love to see a viewer walk away from an article or program and go "How could they possible think that", but 30mins later they are going"Wait, they really does make sense".

This is what I was talking about. In order to have an intelligent discussion you have to go a lot deeper than, "Well the Constitution says so/doesn't say so, so that's that." So if you were going to have a discussion about civil rights or whatever I think it would be much more fulfilling if it was addressed in a way that examined the underlying philosophy, and was applicable everywhere. Not just in the US. If civil rights legislation was illegitimate in the US then it shoudl be illegitmate everywhere. There's no need to couple the whole network so tightly to just the US. The concept of liberty is universal.

[Mark]

Are you?

You keep posting the left leaning newnews site. Grow up.

Okay, one more, because you need help, you are clearly confused.

A website has content. A domain name does not.

NewPressTV.com is merely a domain name at this point. NewPress.tv has llepards original letter. Real left leaning.

[alexa doherty]

OK, Before this turns into a debate about personal ideologies. Lets get back on topic.

My Views

Of course, you can really never have unbiased news, its an impossible concept. But, you can have objective news, and I think that is the point. I wouldnt mind pushing the box a little and report on events that may seem outside of the mainstream.

What I would really like to see, and I'm going to use Ron Paul as an example, is news that makes me think and see issues more deeply. Lets take his stance on the Civil Rights Act. On the surface it seemed like a ligtimate piece of legislation, but when you delve deeper, you come understand that it did more to divide this nation and promote racial stereotyping and racsim than it did to prevent it.

I want to make people think. I believe a large portion of this country have forgotten how to do that. I would love to see a viewer walk away from an article or program and go "How could they possible think that", but 30mins later they are going"Wait, they really does make sense".

I don't think Murray is talking about that at all. He probably hates the fact that illegals should be deported. I agree that he comes off like some sort of marxist.

[alexa doherty]

NewPressTV.com is merely a domain name at this point. NewPress.tv has llepards original letter. Real left leaning.

Mark, you are a mental midget and suffering from cognitive dissonance. NewPressTV is leftwing. It was pointed out earlier by other people as well. It's not the name, it's that sites content. Too left wing. We need something else and can do a lot a better than that site.

[alexa doherty]

I disagree completely. The Constitution is a miserable failure. The belief that some magic document, that is nothing more than words on paper, will somehow be able to restrain Power is hopelessly naive. It hasn't worked and never will.


Thank you "Marxist" Murray Rothschild. I noticed a left wing democrat say the same thing on Cspan tonite. Another jewish guy except his name was Levin.

[AceNZ]

The Constitution is an agreement. A contract. The governement has breached this contract. The people have not called them on it. When you say the constitution does not work what your are saying is the people of the country have not had the knowledge and/or balls to hold the government accountable to the breach of contract. Lets now move forward to having balls and offering knowledge with a truthful, relevant news outlet.

+1

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

[literatim]

I don't want to see an outright libertarian focused news station.

[kill the banks]

The Constitution is an agreement. A contract. The governement has breached this contract. The people have not called them on it. When you say the constitution does not work what your are saying is the people of the country have not had the knowledge and/or balls to hold the government accountable to the breach of contract. Lets now move forward to having balls and offering knowledge with a truthful, relevant news outlet.


+2 ... good lord how much have we learned by underminding it , really if you are young and frisky with liberal ideas run them though an experienced liberty tv source ~ like ron paul before you type ... ps how old are some of you ... ? consider a little fact that you probably won't invent anything new really ~ you are just about to repeat history ... consider what insanity is and think before you sink the real news !

alexa ~ you're a clever watcher

kill the banks

[xao]

Too many liberal/socialist fools posting at this thread now.