Kucinich calls himself a "Libertarian Democrat"

[ronpaulfan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eapud0FiKVs

[Matt_R]

He is a strong advocate of civil liberties, although the term "libertarian Democrat" is almost as contradictory as "Anarcho-Communist."

[BuddyRey]

Paul/Kucinich '08!

[Alex Libman]

Maybe by Scandinavian standards...

[RJB]

I heard heard that he is a socialist capitalist :)

[mwkaufman]

He is a strong advocate of civil liberties, although the term "libertarian Democrat" is almost as contradictory as "Anarcho-Communist."

Ron Paul has the anarchocapitalists, Kucinich has the anarchosyndicalists.

[Matt_R]

Ron Paul has the anarchocapitalists, Kucinich has the anarchosyndicalists.

Anarchosyndicalism is still a contradiction. It doesn't matter whether you call it government or a "labor movement" it's still an outside influence hindering individual freedom, which is the main proponent of anarchism. The labor movement would just be perpetrating what the government would in a communist society.

[dircha]

He is a strong advocate of civil liberties, although the term "libertarian Democrat" is almost as contradictory as "Anarcho-Communist."

What is it with internet libertarians and anal semantic hangups?

Anarcho-communism has at least as strong a historical claim to the term Anarchism as Anarcho-capitalism.

And there's nothing self-contradictory about either.

They are distinct historical conceptions of Anarchism. One does not have the "true" definition or conception of Anarchism which invalidates the other.

[dircha]

Anarchosyndicalism is still a contradiction. It doesn't matter whether you call it government or a "labor movement" it's still an outside influence hindering individual freedom, which is the main proponent of anarchism. The labor movement would just be perpetrating what the government would in a communist society.

Stop being a dick.

[Matt_R]

Stop being a dick.

Okay, explain to me how you will redistribute wealth without a state function? Unless you can someone completely revamp human nature, I don't think that it is possible.

[cindy25]

Dennis has changed, and not for the better.
In 2004 I saw a Dem debate on C-span, and the question was draft registration for women.
Dennis, and Carol Braun opposed it, saying correctly male registration should be ended also.

flash forward to 2008 and Dennis at the black and brown forum is just like all the other Dems in favoring it.

[user]

If you watch the video, he attached the major third parties to "Democrat" not just Libertarian. This is just Kucinich trying to make a point in his typically strange way. I think he was just trying to pick up some votes from Libertarians who, for some reason, don't know his policies.

[forsmant]

What is it with internet libertarians and anal semantic hangups?

Anarcho-communism has at least as strong a historical claim to the term Anarchism as Anarcho-capitalism.

And there's nothing self-contradictory about either.

They are distinct historical conceptions of Anarchism. One does not have the "true" definition or conception of Anarchism which invalidates the other.

We love are semantics! After all, true meaning varies by peoples understanding and emotional attachments to words.

[Chase]

He is a strong advocate of civil liberties, although the term "libertarian Democrat" is almost as contradictory as "Anarcho-Communist."

Funny how so many 'strong advocates of civil liberties' gloss right over the 2nd Amendment as if it didn't exist...

[forsmant]

Well one could argue that the second amendment gives you rights to certain property. The social anarcho whatever do not believe property is a right. Therefore gun ownership is not a civil liberty. One could argue if he were so inclined. Thomas Jefferson didn't necessarily believe property to be a God given right, instead choosing to use the phrase: pursuit of happiness.

[nbhadja]

Stop being a dick.

Sounds like he made a great point and you couldn't respond back.

[davver]

Classic liberalism was about the struggle for the rights of the people versus the established hierarchies of the time. It was about advocating the basic rights and freedoms of the people against the backdrop of serfdom.

Libertarianism split after WWII into a right and a left camp. The presence of a two party winner take all system is a good part to blame for this. There are both governmental and non-governmental bodies that threaten liberty. Each respective camp, more afraid of one threat to liberty then the another, allowed themselves to be co-opted by the elites of either political party, whose only goal was their own personal enrichment.

Today I think both sides have relized the futility of what has occured. They serve masters they know to be evil and they no longer believe they can achieve anything of worth by alinging with them. The issue of the war is the biggest catalyst because it has been bother uniformely detestable and, in essence, supported by bother political parties. We could pick many other issues on which to criticize washington but I'll digress.

The time has come for libertarians on the left and right to come togethor again. This re-marriage won't work for everyone. People on the right and the left have bought into the idea that it is ok to use that state to fight whatever demon they have. However, I think disgust with the utter futility of the state has reached the point where we have a lot more in common then opposed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z31FQ1_jjlQ&feature=user

[MS0453]

Okay, explain to me how you will redistribute wealth without a state function? Unless you can someone completely revamp human nature, I don't think that it is possible.

The amish pool their money together for healthcare matters. There are such things as voluntary communes, but I wouldn't consider them paradise.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

He is a strong advocate of civil liberties, although the term "libertarian Democrat" is almost as contradictory as "Anarcho-Communist."

No, the words weren't contradictory. You want to know what is? no libertarian would be anti-gun, pro-tax, pro-regulation, anti-free trade. That's where he's wrong. The Democratic Party is just a big ass voting block, they're not all socialists over there.

Sorry Kucinich, you're no libertarian, you're a hardcore neoliberal (lefty)

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

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