Why don't southerners attempt to secede again?

[rodent]

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[kylejack]

It still seems to be a disputed matter as to whether states have a right to secede. The South did it in a rather improper manner, by firing on a US fort. New Hampshire's Constitution includes a clause asserting their right to secede.

[SovereignMN]

improper? South Carolina seceded non-violently through their state legislature. Lincoln responded by bringing re-enforcements to Fort Sumter.

[jm1776]

improper? South Carolina seceded non-violently through their state legislature. Lincoln responded by bringing re-enforcements to Fort Sumter.

QFT

They attacked foreign troops on their soil.

[pickdog]

Texas should!

[ConstitutionGal]

Lincoln insured by force what he could not insure Constitutionally. Sadly, the South has been so invaded during the last 50 years that there is no longer a Southern plurality in our major urban areas so this will never get off the ground again. Texas, still being a Republic itself, would have a better legal chance but then you have to throw in the illegal aliens and, even if it seceded, it'd probably end up joining Mexico!

[kylejack]

improper? South Carolina seceded non-violently through their state legislature. Lincoln responded by bringing re-enforcements to Fort Sumter.
They were firing on Fort Sumter within 42 days of Lincoln taking office, and they had already captured federal forts before Lincoln took office. Little attempt was made to legitimize the secession before taking hostile action against the forts. A secession battle fought in the courts and in the field of public opinion would be far more likely to secede than violent secession.

[RPFTW!]

I've always kind of thought of Alaska as a good place for a secessionist movement

[rodent]

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[jgmaynard]

I've found that for the most part, there are far more east/west differences than there are north/south differences these days. If there were to be any split, you'd likely see an east/west divide.

JM

[Alex Libman]

Why would the south want to, their GDP/capita would be closer to Mexico's if it wasn't for all the federal programs redistributing wealth in their favor over the years!

The best chance for a secession movement is in New Hampshire - the Free State Project. A distant second is the Alaska Independence Party, followed by some small movements in Wyoming, Idaho, Vermont, Maine, etc. The right to secede is specifically enshrined in the NH state constitution!

The FSP has already been doing very well, and the Ron Paul campaign has given it an even greater confidence! We will not stand by and watch this once-great nation descend into socialism and imperialism any further - not on our watch, and not with the fruits of our labor! Sooner rather than later, Atlas will shrug!

[rodent]

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[rodent]

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[Kregener]

What we need to separate, is the tax-n-spend communists inside the beltway from their cushy jobs.

The rest will take care of itself.

[Thomas Paine]

A state cannot secede from the Union without satisfying Article V of the U.S. Constitution. The southern states that attempted to secede did not do so in 1860,
which is why their attempted secession from the Union was unconstitutional.