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pikerz
12-19-2007, 11:38 AM
Have you been polled yet?

I vote in every election I can, and I've never once been polled.

SO what is the reality? Are we being polled, or not?

ronpaulfollower999
12-19-2007, 11:40 AM
nope

FrankRep
12-19-2007, 11:42 AM
Great Poll idea!

I've never been called for a Poll.
I only have a cell phone.

Yes, those stupid polls are inaccurate.

pikerz
12-19-2007, 11:42 AM
Alarming results.

QuesoPantera
12-19-2007, 11:43 AM
not once, not ever

mc_RP2008
12-19-2007, 11:46 AM
F**K You Frank! - http://youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4

Isupportliberty
12-19-2007, 11:46 AM
does this poll count?

pikerz
12-19-2007, 11:47 AM
so if this poll is any indicator, our support is 20 times greater than reflected in polls.

lmao.

thumbto
12-19-2007, 11:47 AM
We need to spread a poll like this far and wide.. How many Ron Paul supporters have been polled?

RPinSEAZ
12-19-2007, 11:47 AM
Never, I even signed up at Rasmussen, and Luntz.

pikerz
12-19-2007, 11:48 AM
does this poll count?

nope.

I mean professional paid polls asking you who you are going to vote for.

kojirodensetsu
12-19-2007, 11:48 AM
I've voted but never polled. This though could be because I like never check the phone lol. :p

But yes I've never answered a political phone poll before.

thumbto
12-19-2007, 11:49 AM
New response to the "but he's doing badly in the polls"

"Our own polls of 100,000 Ron Paul supporters show that only .01% have been polled."

son of liberty
12-19-2007, 11:50 AM
Ron Paul supporters go buy land lines!!!

pikerz
12-19-2007, 11:51 AM
lmao.

oh man, this cracks me up.

proof positive that the national polls are totally worthless.

son of liberty
12-19-2007, 11:51 AM
seriously, then get your number out there. It's not too late!

ronpaulfollower999
12-19-2007, 11:54 AM
bump

great poll!

brumans
12-19-2007, 11:57 AM
Someone should make a similar thread on hucksarmy and see the difference. I tried to register but it won't let me.

gb13
12-19-2007, 12:01 PM
At my parents house. They got a call, I happened to answer the phone (woot), it was bullshit.

I don't remember the exact order, but it was like:

1 for Giuliani
2 for Romney
3 for Thompson
4 for Huckabee
5 for McCain
6 for not listed, or undecided
7 to be taken off our list

I pressed 6, obviously. What a crock... I was so pissed. :mad:

gb13
12-19-2007, 12:03 PM
New response to the "but he's doing badly in the polls"

"Our own polls of 100,000 Ron Paul supporters show that only .01% have been polled."

Where are you getting those figures?

ronpaulfollower999
12-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Someone should make a similar thread on hucksarmy and see the difference. I tried to register but it won't let me.

I tried to get register as well but they never let me and they always send me junk mail.

amakris
12-19-2007, 12:14 PM
so if this poll is any indicator, our support is 20 times greater than reflected in polls.

lmao.

I hope you're being sarcastic. The vast majority of people aren't polled. Does this mean everyone is underreported? Clearly not. For example, suppose there are two candidates and each has 50% in polls. Further suppose that 1% of people are polled and that in reality 50% really do support each candidate. Does this imply that each candidate really has (99%/1%)*50% = 4950% of the vote? No, the math doesn't work that way.

Is Paul underreported? Clearly. In the way you claim? No.

ronpaulfollower999
12-19-2007, 12:26 PM
blimp

thumbto
12-19-2007, 12:30 PM
Where are you getting those figures?

100,000 is a made up number. I was suggesting there be an official poll of all Ron Paul supporters (perhaps donors) that asks "have you been polled?"

with answers:

1) Yes, RP was on the list
2) Yes, RP was not on the list
3) No

And then use this information to calculate how skewed the polls are.

I think it would offer a quick & potent response to "why are you doing badly in the polls"

"Well our poll of 100,000 supporter showed that only [probably very few] were polled by telephone"


or something like that

Buzz
12-19-2007, 12:39 PM
Where are you getting those figures?

They were made up to make a point.

Anyway, it's not about the size of the sample, it's about how representative the sample is. Many cases have been made that due to the unusual nature of our campaign's support base (lots of first time voters and non-GOP converts, older people tend to be overrepresented, etc. etc. etc.), pollsters don't understand how to achieve a sample that's representative, and therefore our support gets underestimated. Only a small percentage of the supporters of any candidate get polled, so the poll attached here doesn't actually say anything. However, if it were conducted scientifically and compared with similar polls of the supporters of other candidates, then there would be some significance if any noteworthy discrepancies surfaced (and I'm sure they would).

pikerz
12-19-2007, 01:02 PM
I hope you're being sarcastic. The vast majority of people aren't polled. Does this mean everyone is underreported? Clearly not. For example, suppose there are two candidates and each has 50% in polls. Further suppose that 1% of people are polled and that in reality 50% really do support each candidate. Does this imply that each candidate really has (99%/1%)*50% = 4950% of the vote? No, the math doesn't work that way.

Is Paul underreported? Clearly. In the way you claim? No.

Well I didnt want to be a buzz-kill.

But yea, only a *sample* of the population is ever polled.

The number could be relevant, tho, if we can get data on what percentage of Huck's or Romney's supporters are polled.

smartguy911
12-22-2007, 03:19 AM
wowzer 95% no

mokkan88
12-22-2007, 03:21 AM
Usually, a poll gets about 400-1000 opinions before it releases its result. Which is why polls are ineffective and useless.