Christians have Dr. Paul at #1 GOP

[raystone]

After seeing Ron Paul in 3rd place in the Conservative Underground poll, (very encouraging since current #1 Fredhead voters will need someone to turn to) ...decided to check out the Christian forums....

These seem like folks who will actually go out and vote, unlike current national polls of "likely voters". And no , not spammers, these respondents have thousands of posts and "blessings".


http://christianforums.com/t6579108

Sorry I couldn't get a screen shot...


Christianforums.com > Mission > Discussion & Debate > Politics > American Politics
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View Poll Results: Who is your candidate?
Ron Paul 14 34.15%
Rudy Giuliani 0 0%
Mitt Ronmey 1 2.44%
Fred Thompson 3 7.32%
Mike Huckabee 2 4.88%
Hillary Clinton 4 9.76%
Barack Obama 10 24.39%
Bill Richardson 2 4.88%
Dennis Kucinich 0 0%
Other 5 12.20%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

[Ethek]

After seeing Ron Paul in 3rd place in the Conservative Underground poll, (very encouraging since current #1 Fredhead voters will need someone to turn to) ...decided to check out the Christian forums....

These seem like folks who will actually go out and vote, unlike current national polls of "likely voters". And no , not spammers, these respondents have thousands of posts and "blessings".


http://christianforums.com/t6579108&page=3

Sorry I couldn't get a screen shot...


Christianforums.com > Mission > Discussion & Debate > Politics > American Politics
Who is your candidate?

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View Poll Results: Who is your candidate?
Ron Paul 14 34.15%
Rudy Giuliani 0 0%
Mitt Ronmey 1 2.44%
Fred Thompson 3 7.32%
Mike Huckabee 2 4.88%
Hillary Clinton 4 9.76%
Barack Obama 10 24.39%
Bill Richardson 2 4.88%
Dennis Kucinich 0 0%
Other 5 12.20%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

Thats encouraging. Not a terribly large sampling of people... but still. Nice!

Is that a local forum?

[AggieforPaul]

Glad to see it. Unfortunately, the majority of my Christian friends IRL are Huckabee supporters. There's also a lot of Huckabee supporters on a Christian board I post at, although Ron Paul does seem to be the #2 choice in both circles.

[wildflower]

That's great too see! I think a lot of people go that forum (I used to post there). Not everyone there is Christian, though... actually there are quite a few nonbelievers who post there, I guess to debate.

[Benaiah]

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[jumpyg1258]

41 votes is not much to base this off of.

[AggieforPaul]

I am "Barren" over there at the christianforums. We need some Ron Paul support over there guys. That site has over 200,000 members

[edit] if you are going to post, don't spam-- make a real post instead of drive-by talking points.

That place rubs me the wrong way. They wouldn't let me post on the Christians only board, because I wouldn't affirm the Nicene Creed. And my objection to the Creed doesnt stem from the fact that I dont believe the Bible. I believe the Bible, and I think the Trinity is unBiblical.

[hellah10]

christianforums.com is the 13th largest message board in the world according to big-boards.com

[pikerz]

nice

[PimpBlimp]

2,000 active people on an average day at 10:00PM CST is nothing to scoff at

[RPFTW!]

4chan (the largest forum on the internets so I hear) is about 50% Ron Paul with the other 50% spread among the vehement socialists

[AggieforPaul]

^ Don't publicize that fact. The MSM already knows about stormfront.

Imagine them saying "website responsible for fake NFL stadium terrorist threat endorses Ron Paul". Fox News has already called them cyber terrorists, and an "internet hate machine".

[RPFTW!]

^ Don't publicize that fact. The MSM already knows about stormfront.

Imagine them saying "website responsible for fake NFL stadium terrorist threat endorses Ron Paul". Fox News has already called them cyber terrorists, and an "internet hate machine".

lulz!

[hard@work]

That place rubs me the wrong way. They wouldn't let me post on the Christians only board, because I wouldn't affirm the Nicene Creed. And my objection to the Creed doesnt stem from the fact that I dont believe the Bible. I believe the Bible, and I think the Trinity is unBiblical.

So did Arius who was discredited by an emperor's power.

[hard@work]

4chan (the largest forum on the internets so I hear) is about 50% Ron Paul with the other 50% spread among the vehement socialists


........ do not talk about fight club

[raystone]

Ron Paul still leading this poll, now with 36.11% , leading all candidates, Dems and Rep

And recent posts show long time Christian Forum members, not Ron Paul supporters newly joined.

[Jeremy]

Christianforums.com still represents the internet. The members are all internet users like you and me. ;)

[Jeremy]

4chan (the largest forum on the internets so I hear) is about 50% Ron Paul with the other 50% spread among the vehement socialists

It's not even close to the biggest... and that site is a disgrace to Web 2.0. :/

[Perry]

I ran a poll on two Christian forums, one of which is one of the largest on the web, and garnered the same percentages. Online Christians are as informed as anyone else online.

[WilliamC]

2,000 active people on an average day at 10:00PM CST is nothing to scoff at

ronpaulforums isn't quite in this league yet.

YET :)

[Jeremy]

OK... I think I might register on the christainforums to show them the truth about Barack.

[xexkxex]

72 total votes....26 for Ron Paul....36.11%

[wildflower]

That poll is interesting and really encouraging. Paul is winning, and other than Obama, look at where the others are... much lower than Paul.

It makes me think it's the media who keeps trying to promote Huckabee as the 'christian's' candidate. Yes, he may be among some christians, but there are plenty of others who do not support Hukabee, as that poll indicates.

[politicsNproverbs]

Here's another Christian forum, that I visited a few times, though not lately until your post reminded me of it... I see there are a few threads re: Ron Paul... will have to go read them to see if they are positive or not... :confused:


Rapture Ready > Last Days Political Events > Christian Citizen Central
http://www.rr-bb.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4

Christian Citizen Central Discussions on religious freedom, church-state separation, and the sanctity of human life issues from a conservative Christian world view, keeping Christians informed about what is going on in the courts and government policies regarding the protection of human life and religious liberty. Politics and individual candidates can only be discussed within the framework of these political issues as the elections approach. This is not a forum for arguing political agendas or candidates, it is for helping educate believers in making wise voting decisions.


Admittedly, I don't like forums with "too many rules." :(

[L.A.mama]

That place rubs me the wrong way. They wouldn't let me post on the Christians only board, because I wouldn't affirm the Nicene Creed. And my objection to the Creed doesnt stem from the fact that I dont believe the Bible. I believe the Bible, and I think the Trinity is unBiblical.

Please see response below.

[L.A.mama]

That place rubs me the wrong way. They wouldn't let me post on the Christians only board, because I wouldn't affirm the Nicene Creed. And my objection to the Creed doesnt stem from the fact that I dont believe the Bible. I believe the Bible, and I think the Trinity is unBiblical.

Our family has the SAME "privilege!" We won't affirm the Nicene creed and reject the pagan doctrine of the trinity as well, which is consistent with "the faith once delivered to the saints" but inconsistent and hated by false or confused religion.

Here's a wonderful pictoral on "Pagan Trinities" that I hope to see made one day into a You Tube vid. http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm

What's your background??

Gotta keep swimming upstream to make it all the way HOME, no matter what :)

[LEK]

Sampling is up to 140 with Dr. Paul #1.

[VJDTropical]

Originally Posted by AggieforPaul
That place rubs me the wrong way. They wouldn't let me post on the Christians only board, because I wouldn't affirm the Nicene Creed. And my objection to the Creed doesnt stem from the fact that I dont believe the Bible. I believe the Bible, and I think the Trinity is unBiblical.

Where do you live ? The USA ? It seems that more and more Christians there are rejecting scripture and misconceiving , misinterpreting the Bible entirely ... But then again ...

First of all let me sat that the Trinity IS Biblical my friend , if it weren't then whom do you say is Jesus Christ ? Is he God ? Yes , but he is also the Son of the Living God and Son of Man

Then whom is the Holy Spirit ? Is he a fanthom of some kind ? No , he is our comforter and friend , he is God the Holy Spirit

And don't forget God the Father

1 - http://christiananswers.net/dictionary/trinity.html
2 - http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t002.html

This may also interest you - http://forums.christianity.com/The_Gap_Theory/m_3077539/mpage_1/tm.htm#1

1 - http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/persecution/pch0158.htm
2 - http://www.amazon.com/Next-Christendom-Coming-Global-Christianity/dp/019518307X/ref=pd_sim_b_title_1
3 - http://www.amazon.com/New-Faces-Christianity-Believing-Global/dp/0195300653/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1202530760&sr=1-1
4 - http://www.zenit.org/article-20135?l=english
5 - http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/14/christianity-rebounding-in-europe/

Note - On link 2 and 3 , it is best to read the summary and the reviews

[Molly1]

OK... I think I might register on the christainforums to show them the truth about Barack.

The Christians are waking up?:eek:

Ron Paul gets the top vote?

where is this?

[bj72]

The Christians are waking up?:eek:

Yes, Christians are waking up, as if from a long slumber. That is why people need to keep canvassing, even after states have voted. Churches are yet untapped. Many realize Huckabee isn't the real deal when they learn about Real ID and that he only opposes due to lack of funding, not on civil liberties...and scary resemblance of it going closer to Revelations. A lot of homeschoolers object to Huckabee too on his record....it's not as supportive of homeschooling as he'd like to portray it is...and he supported the UN ibo diploma too. There is a huge uproar with Christian homeschoolers on HSLDA's PAC support of Huckabee (though we all support HSLDA's organization). Many Christian homeschoolers support Ron Paul, and numbers have growing as we continue to talk to others. My parents were tough sells, but now have come around, as have 2 of my 3 siblings :)

Angie & LA mama: We know many Christians that are waking up to the current interpretations of the Scriptures too, and some are beginning to disagree with the Nicene Creed. I grew up Southern Baptist, (my parents and sister still are) went to a Presbyterian based, though non-denominational, Christian school from K-12. My husband grew up agnostic. His g-ma was Catholic and went once to mass with her, that's about it. When we met, let's just say I wasn't practicing what I believe. Anyway, he decided to come along to church with me after we were married to see what I was listening to. He said he'd always attend with me, but probably never believe, though he wanted if we had kids someday to provide a united front as a couple for the family. I figured at least his heart was good, and he was a fine husband, and would make a fine father. So, while I prayed, I didn't push anything (or drop tracks as my mom suggested)...I figured it was in God's time and way if it were to ever happen, not mine.

One day after about 2 yrs of marriage, we had been attending a non-denominational church for a couple of months and he said he'd made a switch. He switched from asking God's word to be proved right, to asking it be shown it is wrong. He said if God was true, and a constant, then his word would be consistent. I was so excited, but little did I know how that would change things. We've been married 10 yrs now (have 3 children), and what has slowly been revealed is God's word is consistent, the church is not. My husband not being immersed in the church, has been a blessing as we read together. He had no preconceived ideas when he began to read, and doesn't sway easily. We think the church's inconsistency stems back to the Nicene Creed. Nicene Creed is not God's word, it is the church's word. When studying history we saw there was a great deal of anti-Semitic thought when it was written. And then there were also pagan traditions that had already crept in....tell me how Easter came about (should be passover fulfilled), or Christmas (it is pretty much known he wasn't born then...more likely in September around the Jewish feasts). We are starting to realize that what was missed was the Jewish context of the Scriptures which were stripped away. Some Jewish believers we've met say that is a stumbling block for many of them initially to realize the fulfillment that occurred with all that extra baggage. They see the pagan traditions, and the trinity which mirrors pagan beliefs (they recognize God came as a burning bush, to Abraham, etc, in many forms) as something foreign. Christianity was supposed to be the fulfillment of the Jewish scriptures, not a "new religion". I'll buy that God is essence, substance and nature, and see where they got the Trinitarian view. But I think the further interpretation of one of the three persons of Godhead is a stretch. Why did it need to be defined at all? The scriptures do not define it in those terms, why did the Nicene council feel they needed to? Perhaps the Gentiles in the church tried too hard to include those who did follow pagan religions, to the exclusion of the true beginnings of the church, the Jewish people. I better stop there...I could go on, but won't, but that is where we come from. We still are learning, and are in transition I guess. Starting to hesitate to use the term Christian...we go by Believer (as in God's Word). Kinda feel like we are in limbo land these days....

And, LA mama...if you are from there, our family is only 3 hours north in Central CA :)

[L.A.mama]

...and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end...Isaiah 9:6-7

Thank you so much for taking time to share your experience bj72!

Well, after just finding out that Ron Paul said that there "will be no third party run" I'm pretty bummed. He also said that he is and will remain a Republican. But I thought he was also a Constitutionalist and was hoping he would do what has needed to be done for so long in this country -make a viable third party run. Ron Paul could do that! To my knowledge, the Constitution Party still has not chosen a candidate! What if the Lord is holding that spot just for Ron Paul? I don't understand and am having a real hard time accepting that after all people have done to rally behind Dr. Paul that he wouldn't at least take some kind of vote and ask his supporters whether or not "they" would like him to run on the Constitution Party ticket or ? :(

So, the scriptures comfort us as we look for a new earth and a new heaven and a government that is incorruptible and eternal.

The trinity/triune teaching needs to be exposed and cast down as the stronghold it is in the minds of those who seek to know God, really "know" Him.

I remember being a trinitarian and trying to talk both to "God" and to "Jesus" After coming to see that God is ONE -it's as simple as that, it's so wonderful to just call Him by His name, Jesus.

Here is a link on pagan trinities:
http://mikeblume.com/pagantr.htm

I hear you with the "limbo" feeling. So many people are leaving their churches! The Lord is calling His people to "Come out of her!" Keep seeking the church of the New Testament and it's pattern for church government as well as likeminded believers. They are out there. Believers who supported Ron Paul are a great place to start.

Please, anyone who has serious concerns with your local church or if you have left already, send me an e-mail at homechurch(at)gmail.com so that I can add you to a list of believers who are seeking the church of the New Testament! The LORD is doing something mighty.

Keep seeking TRUTH in Jesus' name

[LEK]

Glad to see it. Unfortunately, the majority of my Christian friends IRL are Huckabee supporters. There's also a lot of Huckabee supporters on a Christian board I post at, although Ron Paul does seem to be the #2 choice in both circles.

Do they understand he is part of the globilization cabal? He is also good friends with Kenneth Copeland who is being investigated for misappropraition of funds from his ministry (he lives in an 18,000 square foot house and well...). He has also taken donations from Copeland.

Huckabbe is also being investigated for several ethics violation while governor. Go to Judicial Watch and look at their top 10 criminal politicians for 2007. Huckabee is one of them.