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brandon
12-18-2007, 03:55 PM
Do you think kerry's record was broken if.... we adjusted for 4 years of inflation?

TheNewYorker
12-18-2007, 03:56 PM
Definitely not. But don't tell the media that.

jumpyg1258
12-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Nah if we adjusted for inflation Ron would be the Six Million Peso Man.

slantedview
12-18-2007, 04:04 PM
oh, give me a break :p

:)

brandon
12-18-2007, 04:07 PM
Definitely not. But don't tell the media that.

That's why I didnt post this on here until after the media reported on it. :) I was thinking of this yesterday morning. lol

brandon
12-18-2007, 04:08 PM
Nah if we adjusted for inflation Ron would be the Six Million Peso Man.

HAHA!

bbachtung
12-18-2007, 04:14 PM
According to the federal government's bogus inflation number calculator (http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl) (which appears to be based on what they claim is an average inflation rate over the last decade of approximately 3% per year), $6,342,027 would be required to buy what $5.4 million bought in 2004.

theseus51
12-18-2007, 04:14 PM
Actually most money records are like that. Like top grossing movies, or record college tuition or home prices. It's not so much the record is being broken, but inflation is kicking in.

sharedvoice
12-18-2007, 04:23 PM
John Kerry's record was broken. Now if we factored in inflation i'd say we still beat him.

sroll2237
12-18-2007, 04:41 PM
but then again, his record was the day after getting the nomination, and ron paul had nothing to do with this money bomb.

econojon
12-18-2007, 04:47 PM
5,700,000.00 in 2004 is $6,342,027.00 in 2007 according to http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

justinc.1089
12-18-2007, 04:48 PM
Yeah but if you counted in inflation for donating, I bet we still would have beat Kerry. I mean if the economy was better more people would have donated more, so we would still get more than Kerry! :D

Liberty Star
12-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Move over JK, Ron Paul is the new champ:





The Real Ron Paul Revolution

The Nation: Republican's Money Bombs Could Change The Face of Grassroots Politics

Dec. 18, 2007


Move over John Kerry, the best single-day primary fundraising record no longer belongs to the prodigious money-collecting machine of the man who won the 2004 nomination.

Ron Paul is now the champ.

Kerry collected $5.7 million on one day in 2004.

Paul collected more than $6 million Sunday. And, unlike Kerry who raised his money from big donors on the day after he won the key primaries that secured him the Democratic nod, Paul is raising his money when it could actually help his quest for the Republican nomination.

Paul could well end up raising more than any of the other Republican contenders and providing the only serious competition for Democratic money leaders Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

But what is really fascinating about Paul's enormous haul of December 16 - in an effort organized by music promoter Trevor Lyman, a Paul enthusiast with no previous political experience - is that it drew 24,940 new donors to the campaign in a single day.
What's the trick?

Lyman, who raised more than $4.3 million for Paul on a single day in November, times his "money bomb" appeals to days that have deep historical resonance for those who fancy themselves insurgents against the current order.

The November appeal came on November 5, the anniversary of attempt by Guy Fawkes to blow up the Houses of Parliament in London.

Sunday's appeal was timed to coincide with the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.




http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/18/opinion/main3628574.shtml

KewlRonduderules
12-18-2007, 07:41 PM
I think people need to realize that real wages have not risen at the same pace of inflation. For several years, many people have not had any wage increases.

Visual
12-18-2007, 08:39 PM
The title is Biggest 1-day fundraiser, not Biggest Inflation Adjusted 1-day fundraiser.

There's a lot of things that are out of context when quoting dollars.

Goldwater Conservative
12-19-2007, 08:15 AM
Maybe not, but do you think Kerry got his $5.7 million from 58,000 people? ;)

chupon85
12-19-2007, 03:26 PM
1. Kerry had the nomination already

2. People were only throwing money at Kerry because he was not Bush! Kerry didn't have to do anything but criticize Bush, but RP gets money because of his message.

brandon
12-19-2007, 04:21 PM
1. Kerry had the nomination already

2. People were only throwing money at Kerry because he was not Bush! Kerry didn't have to do anything but criticize Bush, but RP gets money because of his message.

True,

Welcome to the forums!

chupon85
12-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Thanks ;) though I've been a long time reader

ronpaulfollower999
12-19-2007, 08:31 PM
I think people need to realize that real wages have not risen at the same pace of inflation. For several years, many people have not had any wage increases.

True that.

Paulitician
12-19-2007, 08:37 PM
58,000 is half the population of my town :eek: That is a LOT of people. I finally realized that when I went Christmas shoppoing yesterday. It basically is my whole town if you only count those eligible to vote. Insane. I guess it truly shows just how huge the Ron Paul campaign is, but also how huge apathy is too.

Cigaboo
12-19-2007, 09:05 PM
Inflation may have surged, but our paychecks are the same. I'd say based on our income and the sacrifice required by us, we beat him.

acroso
12-19-2007, 09:13 PM
Kerry was an elitist pig- that's why I proudly voted for George W. Bush even though he really sucked too.

UziSprayTF
12-19-2007, 09:25 PM
I was thinking about it in terms of gold. John K received 19000 oz (roughly) of gold donated to him, Ron Paul only received 10000 oz (roughly) of gold. So John K is still beating the hell out of us. :( but as others said, real income hasn't budged, and has actually gone down for the lower class, so its still a good record.

chupon85
12-19-2007, 10:42 PM
I was thinking about it in terms of gold. John K received 19000 oz (roughly) of gold donated to him, Ron Paul only received 10000 oz (roughly) of gold. So John K is still beating the hell out of us. :( but as others said, real income hasn't budged, and has actually gone down for the lower class, so its still a good record.

"beating the hell out of us?" He still lost the election! It doesn't matter how much he raised!

trispear
12-19-2007, 11:13 PM
I was thinking about it in terms of gold. John K received 19000 oz (roughly) of gold donated to him, Ron Paul only received 10000 oz (roughly) of gold. So John K is still beating the hell out of us. :( but as others said, real income hasn't budged, and has actually gone down for the lower class, so its still a good record.

Uh no, I'm sure Kerry got those damned Federal Reserve notes just like Ron Paul:p

Just because gas cost 3x what it cost 9 years back, you can't divide your paycheck by 1/3 either to get parity. It does not work by using only one commodity.

If it did, I could compare computers and say that Kerry got 10,000 2.2GHZ 512MB Pentium 4s that day but we got 11,000 2.8GHZ 2,000MB Intel Core 2 Duo - much better!

UziSprayTF
12-19-2007, 11:25 PM
Uh no, I'm sure Kerry got those damned Federal Reserve notes just like Ron Paul:p

Just because gas cost 3x what it cost 9 years back, you can't divide your paycheck by 1/3 either to get parity. It does not work by using only one commodity.

If it did, I could compare computers and say that Kerry got 10,000 2.2GHZ 512MB Pentium 4s that day but we got 11,000 2.8GHZ 2,000MB Intel Core 2 Duo - much better!

hehehe, :)

If Dr. Paul does win, however, it will be very very very hard to beat our record, what with no inflation and all!

RickNHouston
12-20-2007, 12:06 AM
Inflation may have surged, but our paychecks are the same. I'd say based on our income and the sacrifice required by us, we beat him.

Tell me about it...

I live on Social Security Disability and I got a love letter today from Social Security telling me how much my benifit would increase in 2008 ... you might wanna sit down for this ... a whopping $ 20.26 per month... here in houston that equates to 7.2 gals of gasoline. Whoopi!:mad:

madman55
12-20-2007, 07:48 PM
but then again, his record was the day after getting the nomination, and ron paul had nothing to do with this money bomb.

So we should definetly do another money bomb SOON after RP gets the nomination then, RIGHT?!?!?