Member Ron Paul Grassroots? YOU ARE A RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN!

[Real_CaGeD]

Welcome to the real Republican party my fellow supporters of the last conservative representation of we the people.

Conservative-Latin, com servare, to preserve; "to protect from loss or harm" the Liberty provided by our founding documents and the policies and advice passed down from the founding fathers.


Change at/----------------------------------.--------------------------------/Founders
fast pace

We are "right wing" because we want to reverse the trend from the change away from the founding documents. We want to move the center dot to our location on the scale closer to the right end of the scale.

Center of scale = status quo
Where are the other Republican candidates today? Left of center.
Where are the Democrats on the scale? Left wing (change at a fast pace)

The time is now to garner support from the fractured Republican party base. We must inform them that they are being duped into supporting leftist "liberals" as Republicans in name only.

"I am a Republican that supports Ron Paul for the GOP party nomination."

We must redirect the grassroot campaign to the Republican base. Break out the Elephant hats, and make "REPUBLICAN" the catch phrase. Date of registering is over for the switch.

You are a true Republican if you believe in Dr. Ron Paul.

[Real_CaGeD]

The other Republican candidates are no conservatives. NAU, MIC, empire, tax and spend, inflation tax fiat, patriot act, federal power mandated to states, are all movement away from the founders.

Just think about what you are saying when you support legislation that goes against the founding documents.

[Real_CaGeD]

People are uneducated, period. Grassroots needs to inform the party base of the meaning of "conservative".

[Real_CaGeD]

I think our new slogan should be "We want our party back!"

[Real_CaGeD]

Some of you say "I dont want to put titles on ideology, that is a form of control".

Words have definitions, this is how you can tell when someone is a liar.

"What is the definition of is?" Bill Clinton

[Real_CaGeD]

If you understand the "two party farce", you can see on the American political scale that the one party that is missing is the conservative Republicans.

[idiom]

The Two party system is okay if the individual representatives in the party are allowed to be different. Recently they have been made to tote the party line a lot more closely.

[Real_CaGeD]

The Two party system is okay if the individual representatives in the party are allowed to be different. Recently they have been made to tote the party line a lot more closely.

The two parties are no longer, Bush-Clinton-Bush Clinton collusion. What did Ron say today?

Take the Republican candidates and place them on the scale appropriate to their platform issues. You could make a seperate scale for foreign policy, fiscal, and social.

If they want change on a issue and it is away from the founding documents it is left, movement toward the founding documents is right of center. How far right or left of center is based on the speed, or "leap" of MOVEMENT.

This is where we derive the political context of "movement".

Ron Paul grassroots is a hard right movement.

[Real_CaGeD]

CNN, what is driving the money flow to Ron Paul? BECAUSE HE IS THE only CONSERVATIVE!

[Real_CaGeD]

Why is there no Republican party other than in name than Ron Paul? GLOBALISM.

[Real_CaGeD]

Does anyone dissagree that they are a right wing Republican?

[jd603]

you should say "welcome to a real candidate" ... don't be too rabidly "republican" , since theres a lot of libs, dems , indis on ron's side, and the parties are mostly a sham, it's about the candidate now.




Welcome to the real Republican party my fellow supporters of the last conservative representation of we the people.

Conservative-Latin, com servare, to preserve; "to protect from loss or harm" the Liberty provided by our founding documents and the policies and advice passed down from the founding fathers.


Change at/----------------------------------.--------------------------------/Founders
fast pace

We are "right wing" because we want to reverse the trend from the change away from the founding documents. We want to move the center dot to our location on the scale closer to the right end of the scale.

Center of scale = status quo
Where are the other Republican candidates today? Left of center.
Where are the Democrats on the scale? Left wing (change at a fast pace)

The time is now to garner support from the fractured Republican party base. We must inform them that they are being duped into supporting leftist "liberals" as Republicans in name only.

"I am a Republican that supports Ron Paul for the GOP party nomination."

We must redirect the grassroot campaign to the Republican base. Break out the Elephant hats, and make "REPUBLICAN" the catch phrase. Date of registering is over for the switch.

You are a true Republican if you believe in Dr. Ron Paul.

[user]

I am not right wing, and I am not conservative, but I support Ron Paul.

[Real_CaGeD]

Yea, but my goal is to get the grass roots to understand we have a very strong argument to garner Republican base to win the REPUBLICAN nomination.

My goal is to re-direct the grass roots to a very focussed campaign directed at party base.

Hear me? Focuss the grass roots campaign at party base! They just dont realize Ron is everything they are looking for.

"looking for love in all the wrong places..."

[Real_CaGeD]

I am not right wing, and I am not conservative, but I support Ron Paul.

You do not support the protection and preservation of the founding documents? liberty?

Then what are you by definition in the political dictionary?

You are right wing if you support Rons platform. The more you dissagree, the more towards center you move unless you are further right than Ron.

[user]

You do not support the protection and preservation of the founding documents? liberty?

Then what are you by definition in the political dictionary?

You are right wing if you support Rons platform. The more you dissagree, the more towards center you move unless you are further right than Ron.
I do not agree with any one-dimensional way of describing political views, other than from tyranny to liberty. I'm a left-libertarian, so I agree with RP on most issues.

[Real_CaGeD]

I do not agree with any one-dimensional way of describing political views, other than from tyranny to liberty. I'm a left-libertarian, so I agree with RP on most issues.

The left issues such as weed, are actually right wing. Did the founders believe you have a right to put what we want in our bodies? YES.

The Drug war is anti liberty, away from the founding documents so that is "left".

You must reprogram from the years of make believe.

This is why I propose you make your own political scale. You will see that there are no CONSERVATIVES other than Ron Paul and his grass roots.

[user]

The left issues such as weed, are actually right wing. Did the founders believe you have a right to put what we want in our bodies? YES.

The Drug war is anti liberty, away from the founding documents so that is "left".

You must reprogram from the years of make believe.

This is why I propose you make your own political scale. You will see that there are no CONSERVATIVES other than Ron Paul and his grass roots.
I don't think you understand how the political terms "left" and "right" originally came about. I don't think it's really worth arguing about it though.

[Real_CaGeD]

I don't think you understand how the political terms "left" and "right" originally came about. I don't think it's really worth arguing about it though.

We wont argue, but you should review the political scale from page 1.

Left - liberal - change away from founding documents

Right - conservative (to protect and preserve the founding ideology "liberty" fight change of the founding ideology

[Real_CaGeD]

you should say "welcome to a real candidate" ... don't be too rabidly "republican" , since theres a lot of libs, dems , indis on ron's side, and the parties are mostly a sham, it's about the candidate now.

Explain to me how those of you that claim other than conservative, support Ron Paul.


I would hint that you have been duped and do not understand the DEFINITION of conservative.

[iloveronpaul]

I love the traditional view of conservative Republican values now that I have had it explained to me by Ron Paul.

I am proud to be a Ron Paul Republican.

[user]

We wont argue, but you should review the political scale from page 1.

Left - liberal - change away from founding documents

Right - conservative (to protect and preserve the founding ideology "liberty" fight change of the founding ideology

To review it from "page 1," you need to look at the origin. The political terms "left" and "right" come from the French Revolutionary era. Those who supported the aristocracy, the old order, sat on the right in the legislative assembly, and those who supported liberty and free markets sat on the left.

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[Real_CaGeD]

To review it from "page 1," you need to look at the origin. The political terms "left" and "right" come from the French Revolutionary era. Those who supported the aristocracy, the old order, sat on the right in the legislative assembly, and those who supported liberty and free markets sat on the left.

A political scale is unique to the Government to which it is applied.

[Real_CaGeD]

I love the traditional view of conservative Republican values now that I have had it explained to me by Ron Paul.

I am proud to be a Ron Paul Republican.

Since there is only one Republican, and he is a right wing conservative, We are Ron Paul Republicans.

[user]

A political scale is unique to the Government to which it is applied.
That makes no sense whatsoever. There's not much point in continuing now.

[Real_CaGeD]

That makes no sense whatsoever. There's not much point in continuing now.

Every political organization has a unique political scale. On the right is the old, on the left is the change.

The example you use of that applied to france is true.

The old (aristrocracy) on the right
The change (liberty) on the left

In that day you were a "liberal" if you supported liberty.

The American scale is set upon the foundation of the political atmosphere in which we are to weigh. This would be the founding ideologies.

liberal left is change from the old "founding documents".

[Real_CaGeD]

"Loose Change"

Think about it.

[Real_CaGeD]

Some of you do not even know what Ron is talking about. "I will defend the nation from threats domestic".

[Real_CaGeD]

What is it called when the conservatives of a government lose?

The foundation ideology is lost, overthrown.

One last conservative in Washington D.C. His name is Ron Paul.

[Real_CaGeD]

Well, Ron just told you on c-span," this is the right wing".

Socialist Democrats, Facist Neocons and then there is the right wing, us and the good Dr.

[Real_CaGeD]

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[LFOD]

Does anyone dissagree that they are a right wing Republican?

Yes.

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[itsnobody]

Yes it's true, we are the REAL conservatives...conservatives use to always believe in smaller government, less regulation, lower taxes, building a strong national defense

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

Welcome to the real Republican party my fellow supporters of the last conservative representation of we the people.

Conservative-Latin, com servare, to preserve; "to protect from loss or harm" the Liberty provided by our founding documents and the policies and advice passed down from the founding fathers.


Change at/----------------------------------.--------------------------------/Founders
fast pace

We are "right wing" because we want to reverse the trend from the change away from the founding documents. We want to move the center dot to our location on the scale closer to the right end of the scale.

Center of scale = status quo
Where are the other Republican candidates today? Left of center.
Where are the Democrats on the scale? Left wing (change at a fast pace)

The time is now to garner support from the fractured Republican party base. We must inform them that they are being duped into supporting leftist "liberals" as Republicans in name only.

"I am a Republican that supports Ron Paul for the GOP party nomination."

We must redirect the grassroot campaign to the Republican base. Break out the Elephant hats, and make "REPUBLICAN" the catch phrase. Date of registering is over for the switch.

You are a true Republican if you believe in Dr. Ron Paul.

Amen. And you are a true Republican if you believe that a representative Republic is the best way for us to secure our liberties. A Republic is nothing more than "Res Publica," a government that serves the interests of the Public. You are a conservative if you want to preserve that type of government.

[Ball]

To promote individual freedom at the expense of the aristocracy was a very LIBERAL idea.

I am a liberal in the sense that I promote voluntary cooperation. Conservative means that the law ought not be changed without a stressing need to do so. The two are often aligned, but not always.

What is obvious by this definition is that creating social structures de novo is the very antithesis of conservative. Bush is a good example of an anti-conservative.

I would not call myself right-wing, and I wouldn't call any Ron Paul supporter right-wing. The term originates with the French revolution where the aristocracy sat to the right of the so-called 'Third' estate who represented the peasantry. Both wings vied for control of the government just as they do today. Based on my canvassing here in NH, Ron has *more* support from the Third estate than the rich fucks in multi-million dollar homes who want Mitt Romney to support their ilk in DC. That being said, I wouldn't call Ron supporters left-wing either.

On top of this, Republicans are Whigs and free-soilers who, from the beginning, used the government to push their corrupt agendas and run ram shod over state and individual rights.

I think it's foolhardy to call oneself a "RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN" unless you're a reactionary and own a fortune 500 company. Get your head out of the box the elitists have put your brain in.

We're neither left nor right. We're for LIBERTY and against AUTHORITARIANISM!

[Ball]

PS: Republicans were only somewhat the party of liberty after the New Deal (which was first promoted by a Republican, Hoover). They were never the party of liberty, of course, but merely the party which wasn't outright socialist.

Prior to the New Deal, it was the Democrats who were more for retraining the Federal government. This became self-serving as well (or was from the beginning), but the point is Republicans as republican is a relatively new association which lived and died rather quickly. From it's inception of the 1850s, the Rpeulicans were the party of increased Federal power and centralized government. Bush was simply going back to the Republican roots.

[TwiLeXia]

I don't consider myself any party. I consider myself an American. That's all that matters. I have my own issues and my own beliefs, and I'm not going to categorize them simply for the sake of politics. I will vote for whoever the hell I want, no matter what kind of label the media places on them. I don't care what party they're from, what their religion is, how well their campaign is running, or whatever the polls have them ranked.

What matters to me is if they are someone that I - and only I, would trust to lead this country and protect my freedoms. No matter who they are, no matter what the media or the political pundits say, I will vote for the person that I trust.

[itsnobody]

To promote individual freedom at the expense of the aristocracy was a very LIBERAL idea.

I am a liberal in the sense that I promote voluntary cooperation. Conservative means that the law ought not be changed without a stressing need to do so. The two are often aligned, but not always.

What is obvious by this definition is that creating social structures de novo is the very antithesis of conservative. Bush is a good example of an anti-conservative.

I would not call myself right-wing, and I wouldn't call any Ron Paul supporter right-wing. The term originates with the French revolution where the aristocracy sat to the right of the so-called 'Third' estate who represented the peasantry. Both wings vied for control of the government just as they do today. Based on my canvassing here in NH, Ron has *more* support from the Third estate than the rich fucks in multi-million dollar homes who want Mitt Romney to support their ilk in DC. That being said, I wouldn't call Ron supporters left-wing either.

On top of this, Republicans are Whigs and free-soilers who, from the beginning, used the government to push their corrupt agendas and run ram shod over state and individual rights.

I think it's foolhardy to call oneself a "RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN" unless you're a reactionary and own a fortune 500 company. Get your head out of the box the elitists have put your brain in.

We're neither left nor right. We're for LIBERTY and against AUTHORITARIANISM!

It's not really liberal in the modern sense, but liberal in the old sense of "freedom"

Liberal in the modern sense means bigger government, more regulation, higher taxes, banning guns, giving free welfare, free healthcare, socialized medicine, social programs

Republicans did no such things, but big governement Democrats like Woodrow Wilson did....

Democrats are pathetic, historically the party who started the IRS, FDA, and all the big government programs, and were also associated with the KKK

Republicans on the other hand always tried to get rid of government programs, lower taxes, Einsenhower pushed the civil rights act, Lincoln freed the slaves, Reagan tried to get rid of the Department of Education

Fuckin Democrats, always trying to push their big government ideas onto everyone by raising taxes

If you're a Democrat, then you're big government by DEFAULT

[noztnac]

Sorry, I'm not a right winger.

Fiscal conservative + social liberal = Libertarian

on top of that, in my personal life, I choose to be a Christian.

[LibertyForAll]

RealCaged, You are one post from being added to my ignore list. It is not about the party, it is about the candidate. Many, many Americans including myself are supporting Ron Paul because of his Integrity, Consistency, Track Record in Congress, and no matter What party he was affiliated with I would vote for him, Democrat, Republican, 420, Libertarian, I don't care what party Ron Paul is in, He is The Man for the Job. So please stop with this trying to put Ron Paul into a box.

[Real_CaGeD]

Atleast Itsnobody, and aspiring has a clue.

How can you debate within the ideology world without a proper understanding of the words and terms you are using?


Stop being "ill ignore you" children, and be educated in political ideology.

[Real_CaGeD]

RealCaged, You are one post from being added to my ignore list. It is not about the party, it is about the candidate. Many, many Americans including myself are supporting Ron Paul because of his Integrity, Consistency, Track Record in Congress, and no matter What party he was affiliated with I would vote for him, Democrat, Republican, 420, Libertarian, I don't care what party Ron Paul is in, He is The Man for the Job. So please stop with this trying to put Ron Paul into a box.


I guess you didnt Listen to the "man for the job" at the eggs and politics forum?

[perpetualstateofwar]

Please see my video which is linked below. ;)

[Real_CaGeD]

Please see my video which is linked below. ;)

Nice.
Intersting how they forced "compassionate conservative" Bush down Reagans throat.

Have you noticed the MSM has never, and will never call Ron Paul a Right Wing Republican? When is the last time they told you the truth?

Preserve the foundational beliefs=nuts, crazy, loon= "ohh my god its a right wing republican, I thought we defeated them."

He would run away with this thing.

[Real_CaGeD]

Face IT, study it, and learn it. You have been dissinformed.

You are a right wing Republican.

Class is over.

[Ball]

itsnobody,

You just posted the contemporary Republican MYTH, that they were the stalwarts of republicanism and that the Democrats were for "big government."

Both these myths are demonstrably false.

I find the whole idea of "RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN" quite amusingly ironic. Republicans considered themselves to be 'republican' primarily because they were against the American aristocracy (at least in rhetoric), while the original right wing were aligned with the aristocracy of France.

At any rate, the Republican party was founded to:

• Oppose "Slave Power", or the power exerted by plantation owners through their representatives over the federal government. Their main gripe here wasn't so much slavery, but the other interests of plantation owners with regards to tariffs and other economic policies like restraint on federal spending. No doubt, slavery was used to whip up support from various progressive religious groups.

• Promote a VERY progressive platform of government involvement (and subsidizing) of education, banking, and industry (especially railroads).

• Promising free homesteads to farmers (remnant of the Free-Soillers -- big tent politics so to speak)

Their major support came from various church groups who wanted to purge sin from society via state edicts. See the second great awakening. This is also what lead to the prohibition of alcohol (and everything else of slight amusement).

As for the Democrats being the primary usherer of big government, that's ludicrous from a historical perspective. The groundwork for our present insanity was laid down by hawks Clay, Coulhun and Lincoln. The Democrats were founded by Jackson, and led by Jacksonians up until the war between the states. You know, those dastardly people who broke up our second central bank and were staunch opponents of the Whigs and their war-mongering big government ilk.

You comment on Wilson seems ignorant as well. Wilson ran on a non-interventionist foreign policy a la Bush 2000 (and turned coat in a similar fashion).

Your comments on Lincoln, 'Einsenhower' (sic), and Reagan are the most ridiculous of all!

Lincoln was our first dictator, and our worst president. He was an authoritarian who paved the way for the third central bank by destroying free banking (established by Jackson and the Democrats) with the National Currency Act. I don't have space here to list all of Lincoln's dastardly deeds, but he makes Bush seem tame. Hell, at least Bush signed legislation to suspend habeas corpus, and he hasn't arrested any justices -- yet.

After the New Deal, the Republicans had anti-New Dealers which we now call the 'Old Right' (for better or worse) with the likes of Senator Taft and Colonel McCormick. Eisenhower, however, was part of the movement to expunge this influence and consolidate the New Deal. Wall st. backed Ike over Taft and the rest is history.

Reagan did nothing to reverse any of this. Saying he 'tried' to get of the Dept. of Education (which was still mostly a statistics gathering bureaucracy and hus of little political consequence) is pathetic.


If you're a Democrat, then you're big government by DEFAULT

If you're a Republican, then you're big government by DEFAULT

[Real_CaGeD]

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