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BlindD
07-06-2007, 05:21 PM
Check out this post about possible VP candidates for Ron Paul:
http://tinyurl.com/2ubvbl

I like the idea of a woman who is constitution and small government principled, bold, charming and quite attractive, too.
http://tinyurl.com/2j49pf
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Chase
07-06-2007, 05:42 PM
What about Larry Elder?

SeanEdwards
07-06-2007, 05:49 PM
Fantasy choice:

Penn Jilette

Interesting strategic choice:

Barack Obama

Now I know a lot of RP fans will freak at that suggestion because Barack looks like another statist warmonger in a lot of ways. But the reason I suggest him is that to me, Barack is less well-defined politically than that. I see him more as a personailty candidate than an issue candidate, and as a personality he has got a lot of charm and a built-in appeal to a voter block that might otherwise not have any interest in a Paul ticket.

If Barack could suddenly 'see the light' regarding Paul's constitutional and libertarian approach to government, he could become a powerful and influential ally to a Paul candidacy. Ya never know... :D

Oddball
07-06-2007, 05:49 PM
I still say it's Bob Barr.

BuddyRey
07-06-2007, 05:51 PM
I'm still holding out for Mike Gravel.

shrugged0106
07-06-2007, 05:55 PM
Michael Steele(sp?)

atilla
07-06-2007, 05:56 PM
pat buchanan

Oddball
07-06-2007, 05:58 PM
Michael Steele(sp?)
No way. He's a GOPAC Gingrich clone.

swatmc
07-06-2007, 06:00 PM
Randy Couture

BLS
07-06-2007, 06:02 PM
Fantasy choice:

Penn Jilette

Interesting strategic choice:

Barack Obama

Now I know a lot of RP fans will freak at that suggestion because Barack looks like another statist warmonger in a lot of ways. But the reason I suggest him is that to me, Barack is less well-defined politically than that. I see him more as a personailty candidate than an issue candidate, and as a personality he has got a lot of charm and a built-in appeal to a voter block that might otherwise not have any interest in a Paul ticket.

If Barack could suddenly 'see the light' regarding Paul's constitutional and libertarian approach to government, he could become a powerful and influential ally to a Paul candidacy. Ya never know... :D


Well, that would guarantee no assassination attempt on RP.

swatmc
07-06-2007, 06:08 PM
I'd actually second Barack Obama or Ron Paul's VP.

Hillary Clinton's evil political machine is not going to let Obama get the nomination.

So once Hillary gets the nomination (which she no doubt will) why wouldn't Ron Paul want to recruit Obama as a running mate?

I think Obama would be a decent candidate now... but no where near Ron Paul.

Give Obama 8 years in the white house under Ron Paul and after that... Obama can be the first black president.

I think that works.

Paul/Obama 08!

maxmerkel
07-06-2007, 06:11 PM
definetely Sarah Palin!
Governor of Alaska
young, honest, good looking, conservative, lifetime nra member, loved by the people (approval rating of 85% -90% )
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/hbo/media/sarahpalin1.jpg

LibertyEagle
07-06-2007, 06:19 PM
Interesting strategic choice:

Barack Obama

Now I know a lot of RP fans will freak at that suggestion because Barack looks like another statist warmonger in a lot of ways. But the reason I suggest him is that to me, Barack is less well-defined politically than that. I see him more as a personailty candidate than an issue candidate, and as a personality he has got a lot of charm and a built-in appeal to a voter block that might otherwise not have any interest in a Paul ticket.

If Barack could suddenly 'see the light' regarding Paul's constitutional and libertarian approach to government, he could become a powerful and influential ally to a Paul candidacy. Ya never know... :D

Obama is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. No way.

Walter Williams, on the other hand, has a long track record and doesn't have this baggage. Nor, is he a socialist.

quickmike
07-06-2007, 06:23 PM
pat buchanan

agreed

aknappjr
07-06-2007, 06:23 PM
John Stossel.

johnrocks
07-06-2007, 06:25 PM
I like Barr and I love Walter Williams!!

FSP-Rebel
07-06-2007, 06:28 PM
definetely Sarah Palin!
Governor of Alaska
young, honest, good looking, conservative, lifetime nra member, loved by the people (approval rating of 85% -90% )
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/hbo/media/sarahpalin1.jpg
Absolutely! She's the key to reeling in all the males we can. Plus, I'd think most women would look highly on her because of her beauty, class and success.

beermotor
07-06-2007, 06:29 PM
I still say it's Bob Barr.

That might not be a bad choice either.

I like Karen Kwiatkowski though!

PatriotOne
07-06-2007, 06:30 PM
Obama is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. No way.



Exactly Liberty. Obama is bought and paid for the "Globalist/NWO" gang. His loyalties are to them, not America. (Hence his support for the ludicrous Immigration bill)

SeanEdwards
07-06-2007, 06:32 PM
Obama is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. No way.

Walter Williams, on the other hand, has a long track record and doesn't have this baggage. Nor, is he a socialist.

That's a valid argument, but I don't think Williams has quite the same charisma or current political clout that Obama has. Obama just posted huge fundraising numbers for Q2. I think it was $38 million or something. He is already treated by the MSM as a front-runner candidate, whereas Walter Williams is a comparitive nobody. Strictly in terms of exposure not content or character.

Just looking at from a Machiavellian political realist perspective, converting Obama into a strict Constitutionalist disciple of elder statesman Ron Paul does not seem impossible. And I think it could be political dynamite if it were pulled off. Imagine, all it would take is Obama holding a press conference and expressing his newfound awareness and respect for Ron Paul's ideas and positions. That would set in stage the possibility of starting the growth of a bipartisan alliance. I think it's a real interesting idea, but of course it is predicated on Obama becoming a loyal Paul follower, and not the other way around.

johnrocks
07-06-2007, 06:33 PM
I could support her for V.P. but realistically speaking Alaska only has three electoral votes. I know this sounds shallow but IMO he would do well do either get someone well known and liked in all regions or someone that could carry a state like N.Y. or Ca. , if he could maintain the red states and pick up a blue state that would be like a mandate!!

lucius
07-06-2007, 06:35 PM
Andrew Napolitano

PatriotOne
07-06-2007, 06:36 PM
Exactly Liberty. Obama is bought and paid for the "Globalist/NWO" gang. His loyalties are to them, not America. (Hence his support for the ludicrous Immigration bill)

Plus his lip service for ending the War in Iraq is just that...lip service. He has voted for every bill in support of the war with the exception of one....the last one. The only reason he voted nay on that one was because he and Hilary were the very last two to vote for it and it had already passed and their votes meant nothing. Prior to voting for that bill, they did not vocalize how they were going to vote, nor did they lobby any of the Senators to vote no. They said NOTHING. Had their votes made a difference, they would of voted yes and made their excuses about why. They are pro-war and they have the records to prove it.

Obama would be a disaster and cause problems for RP's term(s). He would be trying to thawrt any progess RP made because he would be taking orders from the Globalists. Period.

NO OBAMA :mad:

gregp701
07-06-2007, 06:39 PM
I think Walter Williams would be the perfect choice. The man knows more about economics than anyone, and would be the perfect compliment to Dr. Paul's small government-economically sound administration. :)

FSP-Rebel
07-06-2007, 06:40 PM
Andrew Napolitano
He's a close 2nd pick for me

Original_Intent
07-06-2007, 06:41 PM
I think Walter Williams would be the perfect choice. The man knows more about economics than anyone, and would be the perfect compliment to Dr. Paul's small government-economically sound administration. :)

Paul already has strong understanding of economics. Does he have any weak areas?

I really think Williams would be a great choice, btw

gregp701
07-06-2007, 06:43 PM
Paul already has strong understanding of economics. Does he have any weak areas?

I really think Williams would be a great choice, btwI don't believe he does.(weak areas) That's why having such a like-minded person would be such a plus. Paul's administration would be a bulldozer of freedom and principle with Mr. Williams at his side.:)

Oddball
07-06-2007, 06:45 PM
Andrew NapolitanoWould make a great AG or SCOTUS pick.

shrugged0106
07-06-2007, 06:45 PM
I think Walter Williams would be the perfect choice. The man knows more about economics than anyone, and would be the perfect compliment to Dr. Paul's small government-economically sound administration. :)



Wasnt he who Dr. Paul said he would consider?

PatriotOne
07-06-2007, 06:48 PM
I wouldn't mind Tancredo. They have some significant similarities. His first task could be to make sure the immigration prob is resolved. That ought to keep him occupied for 4 years ;)

LibertyEagle
07-06-2007, 06:50 PM
I wouldn't mind Tancredo. They have some significant similarities. His first task could be to make sure the immigration prob is resolved. That ought to keep him occupied for 4 years ;)

Yeah. It would be a beautiful thing to watch too. Back to the Constitution and the rule of law. :D

gregp701
07-06-2007, 06:51 PM
Wasnt he who Dr. Paul said he would consider?I'm not sure what you mean here.

I haven't heard any concrete choices by Dr. Paul as of yet.

My personal opinion is that Mr. Williams would be an outstanding choice for vice-president. Just my personal opinion. I listen (still) to Rush every day and to be honest, I like the program much better when Mr. Williams is substituting for him. JMO of course.

Duckman
07-06-2007, 06:53 PM
I wouldn't mind Tancredo. They have some significant similarities. His first task could be to make sure the immigration prob is resolved. That ought to keep him occupied for 4 years ;)

I wouldn't mind Tancredo for VP either, he seems respectable to me, and I sort of expect Tancredo to endorse Paul when he bows out. However, I don't think any of the other Repub candidates are a suitable VP choice.

Are there any other strong constitutionalist congressmen?

Oh, and I STRONGLY second the SCOTUS nod for Napolitano.

Oddball
07-06-2007, 06:55 PM
Are there any other strong constitutionalist congressmen?
Bob Barr.

He got religion after being ousted in a primary bid, largely due to the efforts of the Georgia LP.

Duckman
07-06-2007, 06:55 PM
I still say it's Bob Barr.

WOW you are right! I forgot about Barr. He's a fierce drug warrior though (still pro-drug war even with his LP conversion).

Jimmy
07-06-2007, 06:55 PM
pat buchanan

I agree :cool:

gregp701
07-06-2007, 06:56 PM
I wouldn't mind Tancredo for VP either, he seems respectable to me, and I sort of expect Tancredo to endorse Paul when he bows out. However, I don't think any of the other Repub candidates are a suitable VP choice.

Are there any other strong constitutionalist congressmen?

Oh, and I STRONGLY second the SCOTUS nod for Napolitano.I would second the Napolitano endorsement. :)

There are several Washington outsiders that would be far better than what we have as far as VP.

FSP-Rebel
07-06-2007, 06:56 PM
We need to have a strong anti-war presence for the VP, so as to discourage any attempts on Paul's life by the elite. So, No to Tancredo, but thanks for his pat on the back.

Texan4Life
07-06-2007, 06:57 PM
definetely Sarah Palin!
Governor of Alaska
young, honest, good looking, conservative, lifetime nra member, loved by the people (approval rating of 85% -90% )
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/hbo/media/sarahpalin1.jpg


Absolutely! She's the key to reeling in all the males we can. Plus, I'd think most women would look highly on her because of her beauty, class and success.


+1

Duckman
07-06-2007, 06:57 PM
I agree :cool:

I still think Pat Buchanan is very polarizing, as much as I personally respect him.

gregp701
07-06-2007, 06:58 PM
Paul/Buchanan would be a dream ticket. I don't think it could be any better.

PatriotOne
07-06-2007, 07:01 PM
However, I don't think any of the other Repub candidates are a suitable VP choice.



I don't even consider the rest suitable to walk my dog much less VP. I may not agree with everything he says, but I find him very honest and sincere. I feel like I have to take a shower after listening to the rest of them.

Tancredo seemed to get the best reception at the Iowa Tax forum last week...I think instinctually, people trust him. I haven't checked his voting records, but I bet he doesn't have any skeleton's in the closet either.

PatriotOne
07-06-2007, 07:03 PM
Yeah. It would be a beautiful thing to watch too. Back to the Constitution and the rule of law. :D

Truly something to celebrate. What shall we do with all the extra $?

Oddball
07-06-2007, 07:16 PM
I still think Pat Buchanan is very polarizing, as much as I personally respect him.He'd be a better Ambassador to the UN. :D

BillyBeer
07-06-2007, 07:17 PM
He'd be a better Ambassador to the UN. :D

Send him to Tel Aviv :)

Roxi
07-06-2007, 07:33 PM
Andrew Napolitano

I second that...

Palin is also a great choice...i found this on her wiki, thought it was funny

She admits that, when marijuana was legal in the state, she used it; however, she didn't like it


i would also like to see walter williams or john stossel on the ticket

Oddball
07-06-2007, 07:43 PM
Send him to Tel Aviv :)
Wouldn't that be some-friggin'-thing else!! http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8907/bouncegreensog8.gif

Nathan Hale
07-06-2007, 08:27 PM
Two words: Gary Johnson.

BillyBeer
07-06-2007, 08:48 PM
Two words: Gary Johnson.

We have a winner

Oddball
07-06-2007, 08:53 PM
Barr has name recognition and national experience.

I can't think of a more qualified chioce.

TurtleBurger
07-06-2007, 09:37 PM
I think the VP should be Rachel the Ron Paul Junkie. I'm not sure if she's legally old enough though. :D

mport1
07-06-2007, 09:39 PM
Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell

Tuck
07-06-2007, 09:41 PM
I want Andrew Napolitano in the supreme court!

ThePieSwindler
07-06-2007, 09:44 PM
Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell

Both should be involved in his cabinet, but i think Williams would be the better VP choice... then again Sowell's philosophy is a great one. I dunno, but those two guys would be great in alot of ways. They would be excellent choices in their own right because of their principles, but being black men would certainly quash the racist claims, the white supremecist guilt by association charges, and the Obama advantage (assuming he would run against obama).

gregp701
07-06-2007, 09:44 PM
I want Andrew Napolitano in the supreme court!How about attorney general?

Oddball
07-06-2007, 09:46 PM
I'm tellin' ya....Nobody, but nobody, can beat Bob Barr's experience in the District of Criminals.

If I were giving odds in Vegas, he'd by 1:1 at my sportsbook.

Oddball
07-06-2007, 09:47 PM
How about attorney general?
Napolitano, Gerry Spence, or Janice Rogers Brown.

gregp701
07-06-2007, 09:48 PM
Napolitano, Gerry Spence, or Janice Rogers Brown.Napolitano would be my choice as well!!

PHenry
07-06-2007, 10:08 PM
The great Walter Williams!

My Walter Williams quotation archive (http://www.geocities.com/rab_fw/q-w.htm#wwilliams)

SeanEdwards
07-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Walter Williams thinks "a good wife knows her place"? That's going to be a huge win with the ladies.

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/misc/days.pdf

PHenry
07-06-2007, 10:19 PM
I still say it's Bob Barr.

Would you consider Clint 'Kelly' Eastwood? And remember, no negative waves!

allyinoh
07-06-2007, 10:20 PM
My vote for VP would have to go to Pat Buchanan. He ran for president before and did pretty well and endorses Ron Paul. What's not to like about a Paul/Buchanan ticket?



How about attorney general?

Andrew Napolitano. Period. =)

Lord Xar
07-06-2007, 10:21 PM
I'd like to see Tancredo as vice president. Dude has a clear vision on illegal immigration and besides, he seems like a stand-up dude.

Ron Paul - President
Tancredo - Vice President

That is my decision and I am sticking to it!

Oddball
07-06-2007, 10:22 PM
Would you consider Clint 'Kelly' Eastwood? And remember, no negative waves!
Clint would be OK. He has political experience.

allyinoh
07-06-2007, 10:24 PM
I'd like to see Tancredo as vice president. Dude has a clear vision on illegal immigration and besides, he seems like a stand-up dude.

Ron Paul - President
Tancredo - Vice President

That is my decision and I am sticking to it!

If you asked me maybe a year ago, I would have said Paul/Tancredo, seriously...

But I can't get past the Iraq War thing with Tancredo...

4Horsemen
07-06-2007, 10:31 PM
I'm still holding out for Mike Gravel.

Gravel is a Globalist.

mport1
07-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Both should be involved in his cabinet, but i think Williams would be the better VP choice... then again Sowell's philosophy is a great one. I dunno, but those two guys would be great in alot of ways. They would be excellent choices in their own right because of their principles, but being black men would certainly quash the racist claims, the white supremecist guilt by association charges, and the Obama advantage (assuming he would run against obama).

Yeah, I'm reading Sowell's Basic Economics right now and it is the best book on economics I've ever read. If everybody in this country and Congress read it, we wouldn't be in the trouble that we are now in.

gregp701
07-06-2007, 10:37 PM
My vote for VP would have to go to Pat Buchanan. He ran for president before and did pretty well and endorses Ron Paul. What's not to like about a Paul/Buchanan ticket?




Andrew Napolitano. Period. =)Both choices are perfect IMO. :)

BlindD
07-06-2007, 11:49 PM
When Ron becomes prez, he'll have lots of appointments to make. Would be great to see a website where everyone could input choices for all the different cabinet positions....

Joe Knows
07-06-2007, 11:56 PM
I'm tellin' ya....Nobody, but nobody, can beat Bob Barr's experience in the District of Criminals.

If I were giving odds in Vegas, he'd by 1:1 at my sportsbook.

I like Bob Barr. He would be great. Also how about Senator Stephen Newman of Virginia. That way we could have a Paul/Newman ticket.

gregp701
07-07-2007, 12:06 AM
A Paul/Buchanan ticket would be the best possible scenario.

ABSOLUTE LIBERTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dan Klaus
07-07-2007, 07:00 AM
Alan Keyes should be considered....

Wyurm
07-07-2007, 07:04 AM
I pretty much doubt he would choose anyone already in politics. Hes already stated that he views politicians as a part of the problem so he prefers to draw from outside that pool. Also, didnt he mention John Stossel?

BuddyRey
07-07-2007, 07:09 AM
I'm hearing lots of people mention Walter Williams, whom, I must admit, I'm not familiar with. But I must add to the discussion that, while I agree, Obama is a terrible idea (committed globalist, etc.), I did also read that Walter Williams attended the Bohemian Grove last year.

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/210607_bg.html

Check near "UNIVERSITIES OTHER THAN IN CALIFORNIA:"

BuddyRey
07-07-2007, 07:15 AM
Gravel is a Globalist.

Could you elaborate?

Captain Shays
07-07-2007, 07:52 AM
She's better looking than Hillary. Very presidential. Who cares what her policies are?

sarcasm

PatriotOne
07-07-2007, 08:12 AM
I'm hearing lots of people mention Walter Williams, whom, I must admit, I'm not familiar with. But I must add to the discussion that, while I agree, Obama is a terrible idea (committed globalist, etc.), I did also read that Walter Williams attended the Bohemian Grove last year.

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/210607_bg.html

Check near "UNIVERSITIES OTHER THAN IN CALIFORNIA:"

Hmmm....that is unsettling. I don't always automatically condemn those who attended BG as a guest....sometimes I don't think some of these people realize what goes on there but............I did a additional google and see that he is also a member of The Bohemian Club of San Franciso:

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/vita.html

For that, I am VERY skeptical of him.

Captain Shays
07-07-2007, 08:18 AM
I wanna play the race card here. No doubt that Pat Buchanon is a great choice and so is Bob Barr. So is Judge Andrew though I agree with everyone else that he belongs on the SC.
The lady from Alaska is also a great choice.
Pat would bring in a lot of true conservative Republicans for sure. The only thing that deters me is that there are the unjustified claims about him being an anti-semite. Couple that with the unjustified claims about RP being a racist because of something one of his aide wrote in a news letter and the enemy will play that to death. Two racists in the White House. We'll hear it every day.

Walter Williams is as qualified to be VP or president as anyone currently running, including Congressman Ron Paul but he is black. If RP had a VP running mate who is of African decent it would totally nullify any claims about him being a racist and then we can get onto meatier subjects. And if anyone needs to hear the truth about government, the Constitution, liberty and the economy its people of African decent. They are the one's who have been played by the Democrats for years. They are the one's who need to learn that when the government gives you something, it also takes something away and that something is usually a freedom.

Walter Williams would bring in hundreds of thousands of black votes and the Republican Party needs black votes. For evey black vote we can take away from Dems its like two. Why? Because its one less in their column and one more in our's.
This is also why I suggested in another thread that Ron Paul should break away from tradition and announce right now that if he gets the Republican nomination, Walter Williams will be his running mate. This will open up discussion and there would be a media blitz and tons and tons of speculation in conversations all across this country.
Right from the get go, the media would flock to Williams to get his opinion on a variety of subjects and black people would listen and learn and come to the side of Constitutional principles.
I say all this because I've seen the way they've been used, and played, and lied to and subordinated and I hate it with a passion. They came out of slavery to enter into a new kind of subjugation by a state that promises them something, gives it to them which keeps them down.

My dream is to end collectivism in this country once and for all and to kill it like the "N" word and for all of us to be treated equally as individuals deserving of the same rights.

I just cannot think of two better spokesmen for that idealogy than the combination of Ron Paul and Walter Williams.

Scribbler de Stebbing
07-07-2007, 09:07 AM
You can't pick a VP just because he's black. That is rascist. I confess to being agnostic at the moment over who should be the VP candidate. Too bad, 'cause Ron Paul told me I got to choose. :D

I do like Walter Williams immensely. But the campaign should consider balancing a Congressman at the head of the ticket with a more executive type such as a governor or mayor (Clint Eastwood was a mayor, wasn't he?). Something else to think about . . .

PatriotOne
07-07-2007, 09:18 AM
I wanna play the race card here. No doubt that Pat Buchanon is a great choice and so is Bob Barr. So is Judge Andrew though I agree with everyone else that he belongs on the SC.
The lady from Alaska is also a great choice.
Pat would bring in a lot of true conservative Republicans for sure. The only thing that deters me is that there are the unjustified claims about him being an anti-semite. Couple that with the unjustified claims about RP being a racist because of something one of his aide wrote in a news letter and the enemy will play that to death. Two racists in the White House. We'll hear it every day.

Walter Williams is as qualified to be VP or president as anyone currently running, including Congressman Ron Paul but he is black. If RP had a VP running mate who is of African decent it would totally nullify any claims about him being a racist and then we can get onto meatier subjects. And if anyone needs to hear the truth about government, the Constitution, liberty and the economy its people of African decent. They are the one's who have been played by the Democrats for years. They are the one's who need to learn that when the government gives you something, it also takes something away and that something is usually a freedom.

Walter Williams would bring in hundreds of thousands of black votes and the Republican Party needs black votes. For evey black vote we can take away from Dems its like two. Why? Because its one less in their column and one more in our's.
This is also why I suggested in another thread that Ron Paul should break away from tradition and announce right now that if he gets the Republican nomination, Walter Williams will be his running mate. This will open up discussion and there would be a media blitz and tons and tons of speculation in conversations all across this country.
Right from the get go, the media would flock to Williams to get his opinion on a variety of subjects and black people would listen and learn and come to the side of Constitutional principles.
I say all this because I've seen the way they've been used, and played, and lied to and subordinated and I hate it with a passion. They came out of slavery to enter into a new kind of subjugation by a state that promises them something, gives it to them which keeps them down.

My dream is to end collectivism in this country once and for all and to kill it like the "N" word and for all of us to be treated equally as individuals deserving of the same rights.

I just cannot think of two better spokesmen for that idealogy than the combination of Ron Paul and Walter Williams.

The only card I want to see played is the "best interest's of the Amercan People" card. Anything else is nothing but slick politics and will be seen as such. I don't care if the person he chooses to fullfill that role is purple after that.

DXDoug
07-07-2007, 09:23 AM
We gotta say screw the 2 party system and take a Democrat as Vice President.
MikeGravel! PIss on those other Democrats

fedup100
07-07-2007, 09:24 AM
Must be someone that has the same knowledge Dr Paul has of the Constitution and would carry it through to be able to win the presidency after Paul's term is over. t o put someone who has no clue, would harm our efforts to heal the Country.

Obama, OMG are you kidding me....well just let me say the choice is obvious for the reasons I have mentioned above as well as, his choice needs to be made NOW in order to make news of it. T

he choice needs to be someone the media will accept also and that can only be Judge Andrew Napolitano.......please say yes Judge Napolitano.

yongrel
07-07-2007, 09:26 AM
I like Walter Williams's ideas. I think he'd made a good VP and running mate. As far as his race goes... meh.

Dave Wood
07-07-2007, 09:28 AM
We need someone as vice president that would preserve Dr. Pauls LIFE! You think the fed reserve is going down without a counterpunch. These people are serious and dont think for a moment that they wont take Paul out to get the #2 man to work for them.

johnrocks
07-07-2007, 09:30 AM
Why is everyone against the Bohemian Grove? I consider myself fairly intelligent but I must admit this org. is not familiar to me.

OURPLAN
07-07-2007, 09:34 AM
MIke Gravel would be cool.

PatriotOne
07-07-2007, 09:43 AM
Why is everyone against the Bohemian Grove? I consider myself fairly intelligent but I must admit this org. is not familiar to me.

The answer to that question, no matter how factual, would cause as much havoc on this thread as the 9/11 subject. You can google Bohemian Grove and get all kinds of info on it though.

SeanEdwards
07-07-2007, 10:26 AM
Must be someone that has the same knowledge Dr Paul has of the Constitution and would carry it through to be able to win the presidency after Paul's term is over. t o put someone who has no clue, would harm our efforts to heal the Country.

Obama, OMG are you kidding me....well just let me say the choice is obvious for the reasons I have mentioned above as well as, his choice needs to be made NOW in order to make news of it. T

he choice needs to be someone the media will accept also and that can only be Judge Andrew Napolitano.......please say yes Judge Napolitano.

Obama has tons of money and grassroots buzz, and he doesn't have a well defined or committed platform as far as I can tell. It's kind of interesting to think about a VP that can add voters to Paul, as opposed to just being someone who attracts the same people as Paul.

A possible scenario: Giuliani gets Republican nomination, Hilary gets democrat nomination. Paul and Obama team up and win presidency on Unity ticket. :eek:

1000-points-of-fright
07-07-2007, 11:53 AM
Pat Buchanan - Too much baggage and a large segment of the population think of him as one of those "evil white republicans"

Barrak Obama - I don't think he would take as many Dems with him because he would have to change his entire political idiology. The press would slam him. What would be his excuse? "I just realized that everything I believed was wrong and Libertarianism is right" Bam!! Flip-flop for political expediency. "I never even heard about the principles of Libertarianism until now and never really read the constitution." Pow! He's an uneducated idiot who has no business being in politics.

So that being said, any of the following people would be good in Ron's team (cabinet, VP, advisors, etc)....

Walter Williams - Duh. No brainer. His wife jokes are just bluster and entertainment and easily dismissed as such. Plus, he's black. Yeah I know who cares. Unfortunately... everybody.

Andrew Napolitano - Again, a no brainer. On the same page as Ron and has a certain charisma.

Clint Eastwood - America loves a movie star and he's got political experience. Plus he's Dirty Harry.

John Stossel - Name recognition and media experience. Maybe Press Secretary.

Thomas Sowell - He's got the right ideas and again, he's black.

Sarah Palin - Has similar political ideologies and she's female, young, and hot. Who cares if she's hot? America that's who.

William F Buckley - 'Nuff said. Maybe an advisor or something. Can't give him too much stress cuz he's 82 and could go at any time.

Then of course you have to ask if any of the non-politicos are willing to take the pay cut. I agree that Ron should announce his VP before the nomination. The right choice may well change everything.

hummtide
07-07-2007, 02:21 PM
Well, that would guarantee no assassination attempt on RP.



Best VP choice.. Alabama governor Bob Riley.. especially with Alabama's numerous economic victories especially in the industrial sector which would play huge in the Ohio Valley and Great lakes region. Not to mention, he helps solidify a complete south sweep.

ThePieSwindler
07-07-2007, 02:40 PM
I really hope people are kidding about Obama. First of all, he has alot more support than Ron Paul nationwide right now, so its funny to even think about him being the VP to Ron (even if hillary is elected). Second, hes part of the big government establishment, and i highly doubt he would suddenly become a right-leaning libertarian... everything that is pretty much the exact opposite economically of what Ron Paul is. He speaks of bipartisanship, but really means "working together" toward his own agenda.

Absurd much?

austin356
07-07-2007, 03:02 PM
Best VP choice.. Alabama governor Bob Riley.. especially with Alabama's numerous economic victories especially in the industrial sector which would play huge in the Ohio Valley and Great lakes region. Not to mention, he helps solidify a complete south sweep.



A few months ago I would have agreed (to an extent), but some things are coming out........... stay tuned for more info when it becomes less rumor.

SeanEdwards
07-07-2007, 03:12 PM
I really hope people are kidding about Obama. First of all, he has alot more support than Ron Paul nationwide right now, so its funny to even think about him being the VP to Ron (even if hillary is elected). Second, hes part of the big government establishment, and i highly doubt he would suddenly become a right-leaning libertarian... everything that is pretty much the exact opposite economically of what Ron Paul is. He speaks of bipartisanship, but really means "working together" toward his own agenda.

Absurd much?

I honestly didn't think Obama was an issue candidate. He seems like a personality guy. I don't think I've ever heard him talk in specific details about anything.

Ok, I just looked at Obama's web site, and it is an entirely generic boilerplate stance on issues. He doesn't really take a defined position on anything.

For example, here's Baracks position on immigration:

Barack Obama believes the immigration issue has been exploited by politicians to divide the nation rather than find real solutions. This divisiveness has allowed the illegal immigration problem to worsen, with borders that are less secure than ever and an economy that depends on millions of workers living in the shadows.

What is he saying there? He isn't endorsing any specific remedies. He is just trying to sell the concept that he is the guy for the job. He's a perfect VP! He has no platform, , no ideology, and he brings millions of Obama girls for free :D This guy could adopt libertarianism and nobody would notice any difference.

Obama is in favor of solutions that work. That's basically the idea his campaign is trying to sell. What he think's works, who knows? I don't think he really cares or knows. He's playing the political game, not the save the republic game that Ron Paul is playing. That's why it looks to me like he is trying to stay soft on policy so that he can plug into another candidates platform as a VP.

It may be a far-fetched idea, I'll admit. But I don't think it's absurd, I think it's intriguing. :D

BlindD
07-07-2007, 03:37 PM
Paul-Palin pic added to first post on this thread.
BD

cjhowe
07-07-2007, 03:53 PM
Paul-Palin pic added to first post on this thread.
BD

Change RP's pic to the more flattering one...please?

Thor
07-07-2007, 04:07 PM
I don't want to sound biased, but I am going to say this.

We have never had a female or a black / african american as a President or Vice President.

I personally am not oppsed to either, however, I think with some of the views Ron Paul holds, which are fantastic, but a bit out of the norm for most Americans who have not "smelled the coffee" yet, to try and break new ground with a female or black VP at the same time, is just bucking the boat in too many ways at once. IMHO.

I think a stable, even minded white male (yes, stereotypical BS I know and am NOT saying it is right) is what will help people accept his other policies better. Start trying to break new ground with females or blacks and it is more reasons to say "he is way different and I can't handle that much change at once".

With Obama and Hillary doing so well, I could be wrong. But just so many changes at once might scare people....

And Pat Buchanan is a bit fringe himself, if one would recall from his run at he office.

And Bob Barr is a slime bag. I know he has "found religion" with the GA LP, but he was dirty when he was in DC. My wife was in DC and Barr was expecting handouts and payoffs from her organization to support a vote. He flat out asked for a payoff.

LibertyEagle
07-07-2007, 04:33 PM
Michael Steele(sp?)

You have got to be kidding. Did you see the "spin room" after the 2nd debate? Steele is in the big government wing of the Republican party.

LibertyEagle
07-07-2007, 04:35 PM
A possible scenario: Giuliani gets Republican nomination, Hilary gets democrat nomination. Paul and Obama team up and win presidency on Unity ticket. :eek:

Obama is a member of the CFR.

stevedasbach
07-07-2007, 04:35 PM
Given that Ron is 71, he needs to pick a VP who will be a strong successor. Ideally, a young Governor. Gary Johnson and Sarah Palin both seem like good choices.

Of course, we have to get Ron the nomination first.

LibertyEagle
07-07-2007, 04:39 PM
William F Buckley - 'Nuff said. Maybe an advisor or something. Can't give him too much stress cuz he's 82 and could go at any time.


What are you smoking? Buckley is about as far away from what Ron Paul stands for as one could possibly get. He never was a conservative, but he sure snookered a lot of people down the path to big government elitism. Suffice it to say, he's not one of the good guys.

BarryDonegan
07-07-2007, 04:45 PM
i like the economist fella and Sara Palin

Captain Shays
07-08-2007, 08:17 AM
I would never say that I would support Walter Williams "just because he's black".
Walter Williams might even be my second choice to Ron Paul to vote for in a write in if RP wasn't around. I absolutly love Williams as a presidential candidate and if RP is in it, then Walter Williams for VP without a doubt.

The points I was making in a previous post relative to Walter Williams being of African decent are strategic in nature. We must all face and work to dispell the remarks made by one of RPs aids in that news letter some years back. Its going to haunt us and Walter Williams could easily dispell those remarks just by his being there next to Ron Paul.

But what I reallly love about him being black is that he can reach the community of people who are of African decent and convince them about economic and Constitutional policies that will forever set them free from the BS the Democrats have been feeding them for so many years.
The Dems are just about guaranteed the black vote in every election at every level. If we can take those votes away then its less likely that the Dems will be able to continue to impliment their destructive (in every way) policies of socialism.

On a personal level I really don't care that Walter Williams is black because his policies are sound and intelligent and the man has the highest level of integrity.
But on a political level, I smell blood in the water. I see his being black as a huge advantage and a tool for reaching those who need to hear his and Ron Paul's message (which is the same) of liberty, small government and self determination.

Nathan Hale
07-08-2007, 09:04 AM
Barr has name recognition and national experience.

I can't think of a more qualified chioce.

Barr's experience is no better than Paul's, he was also just a Representative. Plus he's recently denounced the GOP in favor of the LP, so he'd have to spend half his time defending his conservative credibility. Plus he's flip-flopped on almost every social issue in the last few years, so he'd have to defend against those attacks as well.

Gary Johnson, on the other hand, was a governor, which brings critical executive experience to the Paul ticket. Johnson is also more appealing to the centrist, Giuliani crowd, even though he's an ardent libertarian. Johnson brings youth to the ticket and a strong record of domestic accomplishments. Paul isn't going to win as the result of any name recognition campaign, he'll win on ideas. And Johnson is the perfect person to back him on ideas.

RonPaulGeorge&Ringo
07-11-2007, 11:51 PM
If you want to run a gender op, why not Lt. Col Karen Kwiatowski?

[QUOTE=BlindD;54667][B]Check out this post about possible VP candidates for Ron Paul:
http://tinyurl.com/2ubvbl

I like the idea of a woman who is constitution and small government principled, bold, charming and quite attractive, too.
http://tinyurl.com/2j49pf
BD

jj111
07-12-2007, 12:06 AM
Fantasy choice:

Penn Jilette

Interesting strategic choice:

Barack Obama

Now I know a lot of RP fans will freak at that suggestion because Barack looks like another statist warmonger in a lot of ways. But the reason I suggest him is that to me, Barack is less well-defined politically than that. I see him more as a personailty candidate than an issue candidate, and as a personality he has got a lot of charm and a built-in appeal to a voter block that might otherwise not have any interest in a Paul ticket.

If Barack could suddenly 'see the light' regarding Paul's constitutional and libertarian approach to government, he could become a powerful and influential ally to a Paul candidacy. Ya never know... :D

You do NOT want a CFR/NAU/Globalist puppet of the elite like Obama to be VP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trust me, that would not be good for our good doctor's health....

jj111
07-12-2007, 12:09 AM
I'd actually second Barack Obama or Ron Paul's VP.

Hillary Clinton's evil political machine is not going to let Obama get the nomination.

So once Hillary gets the nomination (which she no doubt will) why wouldn't Ron Paul want to recruit Obama as a running mate?

I think Obama would be a decent candidate now... but no where near Ron Paul.

Give Obama 8 years in the white house under Ron Paul and after that... Obama can be the first black president.

I think that works.

Paul/Obama 08!

Avoid Obama like the plague!

Besides, what makes you so sure Hillary would not pick Obama as HER running mate?

Electric Church
07-12-2007, 12:12 AM
This like this guy for VP because he can't survive in captivity. He'll do a fine job delivering the freedom message

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuH48JW8XrU

Shatterhand
07-12-2007, 12:19 AM
I love Walter Williams. But I'm also interested in learning more about Sarah Palin.

jj111
07-12-2007, 12:22 AM
Walter Williams, Sowell, Keyes, or John Stossel. Go through all their writings and history and vet them like crazy and come up with the cleanest one with no dings.

jj111
07-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Whoever it is must have shared Ron Paul's views on the basics:
Imperialism and foreign wars - nonintervention
Sound money
Reduced government spending and regulation

USPatriot36
07-12-2007, 12:32 AM
Power corrupts.
In addition to looking for someone who is right on the issues, we need to look at the character of the person. We need someone who would turn down 10 billion dollars and 20 hot starlets (or stars) and instead uphold their oath to the Constituition. We need to look for honesty, integrity and faithfulness in all of their past activities. Both public and private.

Akus
07-12-2007, 12:44 AM
Blind D, it's horse, then the cart. Just letting you know.

Captain Shays
08-09-2007, 12:45 PM
I don't want to sound biased, but I am going to say this.

We have never had a female or a black / african american as a President or Vice President.

I personally am not oppsed to either, however, I think with some of the views Ron Paul holds, which are fantastic, but a bit out of the norm for most Americans who have not "smelled the coffee" yet, to try and break new ground with a female or black VP at the same time, is just bucking the boat in too many ways at once. IMHO.

I think a stable, even minded white male (yes, stereotypical BS I know and am NOT saying it is right) is what will help people accept his other policies better. Start trying to break new ground with females or blacks and it is more reasons to say "he is way different and I can't handle that much change at once".

With Obama and Hillary doing so well, I could be wrong. But just so many changes at once might scare people....

And Pat Buchanan is a bit fringe himself, if one would recall from his run at he office.

And Bob Barr is a slime bag. I know he has "found religion" with the GA LP, but he was dirty when he was in DC. My wife was in DC and Barr was expecting handouts and payoffs from her organization to support a vote. He flat out asked for a payoff.

(Captain Shays) I just couldn't (respectfully) disagree with you more on this. If anything a person of color would hopefully get the attention to other people of color about true liberty, sound economic and small government. And, a women, especially a really hot, smart one, would also get lots of attention. Ron Paul needs more women voters in his "stable" and a woman would really help with that. Plus, when we get the Rep nomination and we have to go up against the Hildabeast with her Marxist philosophy it would be great to have another woman for women to consider and who is a Jeffersonian.

FSP-Rebel
08-09-2007, 12:52 PM
I'm solidly supporting Sarah Palin for our VP. What I don't understand are some of these off-the-wall pipe dream candidates that some here ridiculously inject. Please, be serious or don't bother.

Thor
08-09-2007, 12:57 PM
(Captain Shays) I just couldn't (respectfully) disagree with you more on this. If anything a person of color would hopefully get the attention to other people of color about true liberty, sound economic and small government. And, a women, especially a really hot, smart one, would also get lots of attention. Ron Paul needs more women voters in his "stable" and a woman would really help with that. Plus, when we get the Rep nomination and we have to go up against the Hildabeast with her Marxist philosophy it would be great to have another woman for women to consider and who is a Jeffersonian.

If Obama or Hillary get the Democrat nod, then by all means, yes.

If they don't and the Dems are white male Prez and white male VP, I personally think it is too much of a gamble. Many, like you will disagree, and that is fine. But we have never had it before, and I want to win. A female or African American VP against a white male / white male Dem ticket might be a huge help, or a huge obstical. With everything else Dr Paul is promoting as far as change, it might just be the hair that breaks the camels back.

I say, let's see what the Dem's put up, then decide.

Swmorgan77
08-09-2007, 01:07 PM
I wouldn't mind Tancredo. They have some significant similarities. His first task could be to make sure the immigration prob is resolved. That ought to keep him occupied for 4 years ;)

I could go along with that, knowing that Dr. Paul's VP will be a CONSTITUTIONAL type of vice President and not another Cheney.

findmemonkey
08-09-2007, 01:19 PM
Mark Sanford will be VP, he worked with Ron Paul in congress. He would make great VP, he is from south carolina (southern charm), family oriented, and scandal free.

JS4Pat
08-09-2007, 01:20 PM
Mark Sanford will be VP, he worked with Ron Paul in congress. He would make great VP, he is from south carolina (souther charm), family oriented, and scandal free.

And YOUNG - which is very important!

stevedasbach
08-09-2007, 03:07 PM
Mark Sanford, Sarah Palin, or Gary Johnson.

President Paul's administration could really benefit from the experience a successful Governor can provide, assuming that he/she shares Paul's philosophy. I believe that all three of these do.

disinter
08-09-2007, 03:24 PM
I like the idea of Governor Stanford:

http://disinter.wordpress.com/2007/07/28/another-potential-ron-paul-running-mate/

tsetsefly
08-09-2007, 03:38 PM
Andrew Napolitano

no, he should be nominated to the supreme court!, I have no idea what the qualifications for the supreme court are but I am sure he meets them.

I would be cool to see thomas sowell or walter williams as VP, but I doubt either of them would want that. And sowell, although far from being a neo-con, is for the iraq war so, there might be a conflic of interest.
Sarah Palin sounds intersting.

I had thought about colin powell, he seems to be liked by the right and is not that hated by democrats...

SeanEdwards
08-09-2007, 03:42 PM
I had thought about colin powell, he seems to be liked by the right and is not that hated by democrats...

Sadly, Colin Powell's misleading the world via his UN appearance before the Iraq war has destroyed any credibility he might have had. He is done.

RevolutionSD
08-09-2007, 03:59 PM
Ed Griffin would be the best VP EVER!

SeanEdwards
08-09-2007, 04:04 PM
Ed Griffin would be the best VP EVER!

I've been reading "The Creature from Jekyl Island", it's pretty good. One thing is for sure, Ed Griffin would be fully on-board with eliminating the central bank. That could be a good life-insurance policy for our guy. They'd just have to make sure and never appear together at any time. :eek:

mtmedlin
08-09-2007, 04:18 PM
I am suprised only a few people said Mark Sanford. The main reason being is that he is the only person that Ron Paul has stated he wanted. He is a younger version of Ron Paul and is the govenor of a early primary state. An endorsement could go a loooonnnngg way.

My ticket

Ron Paul - President
Mark Sanford - Vice President (President in 2012)
Sarah Palin - Secretary of State (Vice President on 2012)
Pat Buchanan - Chief of Staff (knows how to get stuff done)
John Stossel or Joe Scarborough - Press Secretary
Andrew Napolitano - AG (Supreme Court Nominee ASAP)
Colin Powell - Secretary of Defense
Bill Maher - United Nations <-----Just because it would be funny

tsetsefly
08-09-2007, 04:30 PM
I am suprised only a few people said Mark Sanford. The main reason being is that he is the only person that Ron Paul has stated he wanted. He is a younger version of Ron Paul and is the govenor of a early primary state. An endorsement could go a loooonnnngg way.

My ticket

Ron Paul - President
Mark Sanford - Vice President (President in 2012)
Sarah Palin - Secretary of State (Vice President on 2012)
Pat Buchanan - Chief of Staff (knows how to get stuff done)
John Stossel or Joe Scarborough - Press Secretary
Andrew Napolitano - AG (Supreme Court Nominee ASAP)
Colin Powell - Secretary of Defense
Bill Maher - United Nations <-----Just because it would be funny

I think its better to have stossel out of politics in the media proposing limited government ideals and showing why they are better like he has done with his books, dvd, 20/20...

SeanEdwards
08-09-2007, 04:35 PM
Bill Maher - United Nations <-----Just because it would be funny

I'm thinking Teller from Penn & Teller (the guy who never talks) could be a good UN Ambassador. Alternatively, I could support R. Lee Ermey doing his DI routine on the general UN assembly.

"You are all EQUALLY WORTHLESS!!!" /rofl

BlindD
08-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Ron Paul - President
Mark Sanford - Vice President (President in 2012)
Sarah Palin - Secretary of State (Vice President on 2012)
Pat Buchanan - Chief of Staff (knows how to get stuff done)
John Stossel or Joe Scarborough - Press Secretary
Andrew Napolitano - AG (Supreme Court Nominee ASAP)
Colin Powell - Secretary of Defense
Bill Maher - United Nations <-----Just because it would be funny

Very excellent choices IMHO.
I'd switch Palin and Sanford, but either way is good.
Buchanan as SoS is perfect.
Scarborough as PS is perfect.
Napolitano is good for the spot.
I'm not sure about SoD; I'm sure RP has some strong personal opinion about that position himself.
Maher (or any similar comedy show personality) is great for UN!!!! :D

BLS
08-09-2007, 05:18 PM
I really think that if RP named Pat Buchanan as his VP, he would get ALOT of interest, and alot of Pat's old voters, which could be huge.

richard1984
08-09-2007, 05:22 PM
I really think that if RP named Pat Buchanan as his VP, he would get ALOT of interest, and alot of Pat's old voters, which could be huge.

Could contracts potentially get in the way of something like this?

Mesogen
08-09-2007, 05:25 PM
#1 choice for VP

Karen Kwiatowski (http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski-arch.html)

Nathan Hale
08-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Can we please put an end to talking about journalists and theoreticians as Paul's running mate?

John Stossel, for all his popularity, has never been involved in politics, so he's out, as are most of the other names bandied about as shoe-ins on this thread. Congressman Paul needs a person running for VP with political experience at the executive level. He needs to be a CEO, a General, or a Governor. Right now the two names that come to mind are Jesse Ventura and Gary Johnson, both former governors who share Paul's stances on the issues (for the most part), and have a solid record of pro-liberty performance.

trispear
08-09-2007, 08:38 PM
This Sandra Palin sounds like a good choice. Andrew Napolitano sounds like a good AG or SC Justice.

I think strategy should be looked at. Ron Paul will not be able to fix everything in our government without support and also viable successors.

Walter Williams seems good but I heard he was a war hawk and disagreed with Ron Paul disparingly over Iraq. He is also old. Look at Cheney, if Bush picked someone younger, he could have someone to field after he leaves -- most presidents do.

This won't be possible with WW. This will be possible for Sandra Palin -- who he could groom to be his successor.

parocks
11-21-2009, 05:03 AM
definetely Sarah Palin!
Governor of Alaska
young, honest, good looking, conservative, lifetime nra member, loved by the people (approval rating of 85% -90% )
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/hbo/media/sarahpalin1.jpg

In 2009, MSNBC doesn't like her, so many here don't either.

tpreitzel
11-21-2009, 05:15 AM
In 2009, MSNBC doesn't like her, so many here don't either.

The personal attacks on Palin need to stop. One can criticize her stances without stooping to emotionally charged rhetoric. Personally, I think Palin has a very charismatic personality although she seems either programmed or a superficial thinker, maybe a bit of both characteristics is more appropriate. Notice how she pauses during certain questions and then blurts out a canned response, e.g. "I support Israel", when pressed on the issue of Israeli settlements on "Palestinian" land. However, much of the strident and vindictive hatred of Palin needs to stop. Criticize her positions, not the person per se.

Just yesterday, I met a code inspector for the local community who is a strong supporter of Palin. He just began reading her new book, Going Rogue. I simply listened politely and encouraged him to get involved more to stop our country's descent into socialism. If Palin actually runs for POTUS, I'll then address the neoconservative issue much stronger. Personally, Palin's seemingly uncritical support for Israel concerns me greatly.

parocks
11-21-2009, 05:57 AM
The personal attacks on Palin need to stop. One can criticize her stances without stooping to emotionally charged rhetoric. Personally, I think Palin has a very charismatic personality although she seems either programmed or a superficial thinker, maybe a bit of both characteristics is more appropriate. Notice how she pauses during certain questions and then blurts out a canned response, e.g. "I support Israel", when pressed on the issue of Israeli settlements on "Palestinian" land. However, much of the strident and vindictive hatred of Palin needs to stop. Criticize her positions, not the person per se.

Just yesterday, I met a code inspector for the local community who is a strong supporter of Palin. He just began reading her new book, Going Rogue. I simply listened politely and encouraged him to get involved more to stop our country's descent into socialism. If Palin actually runs for POTUS, I'll then address the neoconservative issue much stronger. Personally, Palin's seemingly uncritical support for Israel concerns me greatly.

I agree. I went back through old posts from 2007 and early 2008, when many people thought Palin would be a good VP pick for Ron Paul, and replied to them. The idea was to remind people that many used to like Palin a lot. She change much? Not really. Right now, she's focused on stopping Obama.

Many are going to find themselves very disappointed every 4 years. Ron Paul has the best ideas, I agree with him 100%, but that doesn't mean that Sarah Palin = John McCain.

RM918
11-21-2009, 11:03 AM
I agree. I went back through old posts from 2007 and early 2008, when many people thought Palin would be a good VP pick for Ron Paul, and replied to them. The idea was to remind people that many used to like Palin a lot. She change much? Not really. Right now, she's focused on stopping Obama.

Many are going to find themselves very disappointed every 4 years. Ron Paul has the best ideas, I agree with him 100%, but that doesn't mean that Sarah Palin = John McCain.

She hasn't proven that she doesn't, however, and has encouraged it. The differences between her and McCain are the differences between McCain and Giuliani. Different, yet the same.

She supports the war. She talks all the canned rhetoric about fearing terrorists. I think we've already determined that politicians lie, and it's up to the test to time to see if they can prove themselves trustworthy. Bush talked about reigning in government, and he talked about not making wars on anyone. We saw how that turned out. So, why trust Palin? What has she done to earn it? What bit of evidence, anything, that wasn't some sort of off-handed remark or speech has proven that she's not merely another party-line tower?

mello
11-21-2009, 11:30 AM
Judge Napolitano would be the perfect choice for a running mate. The main reason are his
beliefs in the Constitution & Liberty but another important reason is that he would not
get marginalized in the media, especially on FOX because he is one of their own.

As for Palin for President, we need the best & brightest for President & she is neither. The
thing that I'm reminded of during the election was when she was asked what the job of
the Vice President entails & she COULDN"T ANSWER IT!

Judge Napolitano agrees with me about Palin:
http://libertymaven.com/2009/11/17/judge-napolitano-on-sarah-palin-lacks-mental-capacity-shes-a-goofball/8044/

parocks
11-21-2009, 01:49 PM
One problem with "well educated" people is that they think they're smarter and therefore better than other people.

Ivy League ideas are somehow better than ideas from State Universities.

Actually, much batshit craziness comes from the Ivy League.

Should dogs vote? Sounds crazy? What if a Harvard Professor who believes strongly in animal rights, and is "well respected" believes it? "Well he is a Harvard Professor, and Harvard is such a good school." Batshit craziness.




Judge Napolitano would be the perfect choice for a running mate. The main reason are his
beliefs in the Constitution & Liberty but another important reason is that he would not
get marginalized in the media, especially on FOX because he is one of their own.

As for Palin for President, we need the best & brightest for President & she is neither. The
thing that I'm reminded of during the election was when she was asked what the job of
the Vice President entails & she COULDN"T ANSWER IT!

Judge Napolitano agrees with me about Palin:
http://libertymaven.com/2009/11/17/judge-napolitano-on-sarah-palin-lacks-mental-capacity-shes-a-goofball/8044/