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Fyretrohl
12-17-2007, 02:12 PM
Information Needed...

1 - Specific site in the 9/11 commision report stating that Osama said we were attacked because of the base in Saudi.
2 - Specific bases that were open and operational prior to 9/11 in the Middle East and, if possible, their primary purpose.
3 - Specific evidence of from the Codex Alimentarium that would prevent/limit our current choices on natural remedies and other issues similar to that.

Essentially, what I am looking for is bullet point counter arguments but with the cited evidence. Just saying 'Dr Paul says...' won't cut it.

Fyretrohl
12-17-2007, 02:27 PM
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nist7
12-17-2007, 02:33 PM
Information Needed...

1 - Specific site in the 9/11 commision report stating that Osama said we were attacked because of the base in Saudi.
2 - Specific bases that were open and operational prior to 9/11 in the Middle East and, if possible, their primary purpose.
3 - Specific evidence of from the Codex Alimentarium that would prevent/limit our current choices on natural remedies and other issues similar to that.

Essentially, what I am looking for is bullet point counter arguments but with the cited evidence. Just saying 'Dr Paul says...' won't cut it.

1. http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm


In February 1998, the 40-year-old Saudi exile Usama Bin Ladin and a fugitive Egyptian physician, Ayman al Zawahiri, arranged from their Afghan headquarters for an Arabic newspaper in London to publish what they termed a fatwa issued in the name of a "World Islamic Front." A fatwa is normally an interpretation of Islamic law by a respected Islamic authority, but neither Bin Ladin, Zawahiri, nor the three others who signed this statement were scholars of Islamic law. Claiming that America had declared war against God and his messenger, they called for the murder of any American, anywhere on earth, as the "individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it."1


In August 1996, Bin Ladin had issued his own self-styled fatwa calling on Muslims to drive American soldiers out of Saudi Arabia. The long, disjointed document condemned the Saudi monarchy for allowing the presence of an army of infidels in a land with the sites most sacred to Islam, and celebrated recent suicide bombings of American military facilities in the Kingdom. It praised the 1983 suicide bombing in Beirut that killed 241 U.S. Marines, the 1992 bombing in Aden, and especially the 1993 firefight in Somalia after which the United States "left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you."3


He [bin Laden] inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam's holiest sites. He spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested U.S. support of Israel.


In August 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait. Bin Ladin, whose efforts in Afghanistan had earned him celebrity and respect, proposed to the Saudi monarchy that he summon mujahideen for a jihad to retake Kuwait. He was rebuffed, and the Saudis joined the U.S.-led coalition. After the Saudis agreed to allow U.S. armed forces to be based in the Kingdom, Bin Ladin and a number of Islamic clerics began to publicly denounce the arrangement. The Saudi government exiled the clerics and undertook to silence Bin Ladin by, among other things, taking away his passport. With help from a dissident member of the royal family, he managed to get out of the country under the pretext of attending an Islamic gathering in Pakistan in April 1991.33 By 1994, the Saudi government would freeze his financial assets and revoke his citizenship.34 He no longer had a country he could call his own.

Cleaner44
12-17-2007, 02:36 PM
I would also suggest reading Osama Bin Laden's letters to the American people where he tells us what he is doing and why.

nist7
12-17-2007, 02:49 PM
2. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arcent-sa.htm


The mission of the United States Army Forces Central Command - Saudi Arabia (ARCENT-SA), a major deployed subordinate element of the United States Army Forces Command (ARCENT) is to provide antiballistic missile defense to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the Emirate of Kuwait, and, on order, to other locations and allies in Southwest Asia using Patriot Missile units. ARCENT-SA maintains a forward headquarters for coordination and interaction with our allies in the region to provide the support and assistance they request.