Today's Cafferty file is about Ron Paul

[theshadowranger]

Jack Cafferty's first question today is:

If Ron Paul can raise more than 6 million in one day, why isn't he higher in the polls?

here is the URL


http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/situation.room/

go post an answer

[rollingpig]

you go Jack!

[1town]

Cafferty is awesome =)

[Bergie Bergeron]

Marry me Jack.

[Oliver]

Argh. Is there no CNN stream somewhere? I only
get CNN international here in Europe...

Anyway: Great News - Cafferty treated Ron very
positive all the time. Thanks for that. :)

[peznex]

Amazing!

Here is the comment link:
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/17/ron-paul%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cmoney-bomb%e2%80%9d/

[1913_to_2008]

WELL, i GUESS WE SHOULD ALL ANSWER HIS QESTION

[Shellshock1918]

Be sure to youtube it.

[pacelli]

Thanks for the post and link, comment sent.

[piotr1]

So its gonna be on at 4pm eastern?

[user]

Awesome, I love the setup questions he comes up with. :D

[MEGAMERICAN]

Answer sent!

[UtahApocalypse]

Sent in mine:


Most polls only contact those who voted in the past election cycle. They also target "Likely Republican" voters. Ron Paul draws his support from all walks of life, and across all party lines. There is no efficient way to count us, but we will be counted come the primaries!

[rollingpig]

submit your answers everyone, make sure the answer grabs viewers attention by stating some of ron paul's positions rather than just say the polls are rigged. we dont need the viewers think that we are just a small group of people and feel sorry for us.

[speciallyblend]

please someone you tube this for me,

[SWATH]

"Because the polls are the last buffer between perception and reality. Paul has a lot of money and ranks low in the polls, he gets no media attention. Huckabee has no money, ranks high in the polls, and turns the news into the Huckabee show. The polls are a way to control reality by controlling perception. I thought everybody knew this."

[Ethek]

WELL, i GUESS WE SHOULD ALL ANSWER HIS QESTION

Yes, lets refrain from conspiracy theories.
Instead I think we should misdirect a bit and highlight how the press hyped how much Hillary spent on her website or how much Obama has invested in the internet.

Now that a true internet grassroots campaign as emerged its being dismissed and ignored.

[Ridiculous]

Tried to keep it somewhat short while giving a credible explanation.

"Ron Paul isn’t higher in the polls because pollsters call likely primary voters. Many of the Ron Paul supporters I know have been apathetic to politics and have never voted in a primary before. In addition, Paul has more support from younger voters than the other Republican candidates and many of these people only use mobile phones; the pollsters only call land lines. Come election time, people will be in for a shock…"

[peznex]

Argh. Is there no CNN stream somewhere? I only
get CNN international here in Europe...

Anyway: Great News - Cafferty treated Ron very
positive all the time. Thanks for that. :)

I found this but i don't think it's TV

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

[user]

Does anybody remember where that poll that said only 51% of Americans knew who Ron Paul is and something like 24% knew his positions is? Combine that with the MSM's lack of RP coverage (as reported by CNN themselves, remember?) and we have a good answer. And this one doesn't even get into the "likely GOP voters" and landlines.

[jumpyg1258]

Here was my answer to his question...

Ron Paul is not placing higher in the polls due to who is conducting these polls, the mainstream media. This mainstream media claims they have no bias with catchy slogans such as "fair and balanced" but then pronounces that they endorse only certain candidates as shown by several newspapers today. If you want to look at some real poll numbers, look to the straw polls. Out of 48 straw polls held around the nation, Ron Paul has won 27 of them and came in 2nd place in 7 more.

[jcbraithwaite7]

Here is what I sent:

Ron Paul isn't showing up in the polls because there are several polls that leave him off. One automated phone poll here in Florida left him off and when you press 6 for other it actually removes you from future phone polls. Sounds like a good way to scrub Ron Paul supporters from calling lists. Many supporters are young and have never been registered before so they aren't on the polling radar. Jack, Ron Paul got the endorsement and money from thousands of Americans but all we have seen is McCain and Lieberman ALL day long. You tell me why Ron Paul polls low.

[DrNoZone]

I sent my comment in.

[Shellshock1918]

Be sure to youtube it.

[scubasteve01]

Argh. Is there no CNN stream somewhere? I only
get CNN international here in Europe...

Anyway: Great News - Cafferty treated Ron very
positive all the time. Thanks for that. :)


Right here

http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

[peznex]

Right here

http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

That's it! Thanks.:D

[schmeisser]

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
If Dr. Paul had one half of the free media coverage of the “usual suspects”, he’d already be running away with this thing. By every other objective measure Ron Paul is king.

Most Straw Poll wins - check
Most candidate signs - check
Most meetup groups/members - check
Most online poll wins - check
Most attendance at rally - check
Most money - check that one today

I have never been one of those conspiracy minded folks, but I may have to reevaluate that after this election cycle. The Republican machine should be trumpeting this huge news of beating Kerry (D)’s fundraising record - especially considering how broke the GOP is.

[Ridiculous]

Here is what I sent:

Ron Paul isn't showing up in the polls because there are several polls that leave him off. One automated phone poll here in Florida left him off and when you press 6 for other it actually removes you from future phone polls. Sounds like a good way to scrub Ron Paul supporters from calling lists. Many supporters are young and have never been registered before so they aren't on the polling radar. Jack, Ron Paul got the endorsement and money from thousands of Americans but all we have seen is McCain and Lieberman ALL day long. You tell me why Ron Paul polls low.

This won't get put on the air because you can't back up the "when you press 6 for other it actually removes you from future phone polls" part.

You have to make sure that anything you say in your statement is easily verifiable, or just an opinion otherwise it won't get aired.

[michaelwise]

My first comment,

It’s quite simple Jack,
Anyone with a brain knows the Mainstream media ignores him.
A better question would be; How did Ron Paul receive 6 million dollars in cold hard cash in a single day, and over 18 million dollars so far this quarter from ordinary people, with so little mainstream media attention?

[JAHOGS]

"He is high in the polls.... Straw polls that is."

[thePhilosopher]

Sent my comment. Cafferty isn't too bad of a guy, I used to not be able to stand him, but I guess there's just no place in my heart for crusty old journalists. He's alright.

[reduen]

Good afternoon Mr. Cafferty

Why does Ron Paul not poll in higher numbers?

Kind of hard to do well in a poll that does not even include your name as an option

(Oh yeah, this is happening!)

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYiUAaBd1U

[RonPaulJunkie]

He must not be talking about straw polls or text polls.

[EvilEngineer]

My comment.

Jack, land line polling is flawed in the age of the cell phones and caller id. The truth is that Paul's support has already materialized into real votes. He has won the majority of the GOP straw polls, and hands down won the first ever national caucus held on December 7th. When it comes down to real people getting out to vote, Dr. Paul wins! The media just doesn't seem to want to talk about it.

[Oliver]

I found this but i don't think it's TV

http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1


That's their "latest news streams" whenever there
is an interesting issue. Unfortunately, it's not the
regular program, so Cafferty will not be "aired" there.

But thank you nevertheless. :)

[Falseflagop]

Good afternoon Mr. Cafferty

Why does Ron Paul not poll in higher numbers?

Kind of hard to do well in a poll that does not even include your name as an option

(Oh yeah, this is happening!)

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYiUAaBd1U


Is ent a similar one but could find teh youtube great job, now will he post this letter?

[hellah10]

i <3 Jack!!!

[Abobo]

"Telephone based polls are always quoted as if they are the be all and end all of politics. But frankly they are irrelevant. Who has won the most straw polls? Ron Paul. Who has the largest grassroots support? Ron Paul. Who has the most online support? Ron Paul. No one should care if Ron Paul supporters don't respond to telephone polls -- we are just too busy winning elections and changing minds."

[Ridiculous]

Petition to get Jack his own show:

http://www.givecaffertyashow.com/

[JAHOGS]

"He is high in the polls"

Signed Straw Polls and Text Polls

[Maverick]

Sent mine off.


Hi Jack, I think you and I both know why Ron Paul doesn't seem to have any support in the polls. It's because the "official" poll data is collected, spun, and disseminated by groups that have a vested interest in seeing the big government, pro-war status quo continue. I honestly cannot understand why so much stock is put in these polls in the first place. Look around and ask yourself...when Ron Paul wins every online poll, text poll, has so many people rallying to his cause that even Rudy has to say "Gee, you sure have a LOT of supporters," and shatters every single-day fundraising record of ANY candidate in history, which do you believe? But the mainstream media has decided to create their own reality with the "official" polls.

[tamor]

My Comment

When I look at national poll results, I ask myself three things 1. How many people were polled? If less than 2000 people were polled, I do not give it a second look because it is not statistically significant, in my opinion. 2. Who commissioned this poll and what were the motives? Many times wording is slanted toward a specific viewpoint. Some polls have not even included Dr. Ron Paul as an option. 3. How was the data gathered? Most national polls that the main stream media has deemed as news-worthy are taken via land-line phones, elliminating many people including me. This is truly an outdated way of taking a poll.
Therefore, if there were a poll that was statistically significant, commissioned by an objective entity and utilizing secure new technologies, I feel positive that Ron Paul would win by a landslide.

[TheNewYorker]

My comment:

The answer is a simple one. The polls are polling only individuals that voted republican in the last election. That makes up a very small minority of real voters in this upcoming election, since after Bush, many jumped ship.

Ron Paul draws a lot of his support not only from Republicans but also from Independants and Democrats who switched over from their parties and have never voted Republican before. Those voters are not included in the polls.

Does Ron Paul have a chance though? Well, history often repeats itself. At this time in 2003, John Kerry was actually polling slightly LESS than what Ron Paul is polling now - but he still went on to win the nomination. That right there, is pretty much proof that the polls cannot be taken seriously this early into the game.

[Craig_R]

blimp

[greves]

Sent mine!

There are a thousand reasons why Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls - where to begin?

The biggest, probably, is no longer name recognition, but name association. Ron Paul is harassed by the media on a daily basis as being associated with bigots, anarchists, and all other manner of crazies. The fact is that the man is honest, straightforward, and a real academic - this doesn't leave much for the media to hype up! A friend recently told me that he didn't want a Ron Paul bumper sticker out of fear that his friends would label him an 'intellectual.'

What the media ought to be doing is digging for the truth, not the dirt. If they did their job properly, millions more would be flocking to Ron Paul as he's the only politician bearing a message that really makes sense in these times of sensationalism and inflated egos. Ron Paul's message is simple and humble, yet strong and inspiring: peace and freedom for all.

[ChristopherJ]

Here's my comment


Because we can't get any TV time Jack. Seems like you're the only one willing to give Ron Paul a decent chance and the Paulites love you for it!

We want everyone out there to see what a wonderfully honest and intelligent man Ron Paul is but all they get is Hillary, Obama, or Rudy McRomney 24/7. I have to be honest it's getting really frustrating Jack. What do we have to do to get some respect?

Hopefully I'll appeal to his vanity :p

[freedominnumbers]

My email:

It’s simple Jack. Millions of supporters can go online whenever they want and make their voices heard by donating. On the other hand, I don’t know a single fellow Ron Paul supporter who has ever had the opportunity to participate in these so called scientific polls.

I think Pollster Frank Luntz explains why Ron Paul is not polling higher very clearly in these excerpts from an interview made famous by Penn and Teller.

“The key in survey research is to ask questions that people care about the answers and to ask the question in a way that you get the right answer…”

“…What you will find is that virtually the same question just a single change of wording you’ll get a very different reaction in terms of how they think and how they feel.”

In short Jack, the polls tell us what the sponsor wants us to hear. It has always been that way and will always be that way. I can only hope that one day the news outlets who report these polls will grow a conscience and restore some credibility to the word “news”.

[texasbelle]

"Many of those who will vote in the primary for Ron Paul are first time voters and they are not being 'polled'. At 32, I finally registered to vote after years of utter disgust with politics. Ron Paul cured my apathy"

[Energy]

I didn't submit this but can you imagine if there was a more active free market for polls? I would trust a Google-sponsored poll (with tons of transparency and rock-solid voter authentication system) than these silly land-line polls.

[hillertexas]

My email:
National polls are archaic and will soon fall by the wayside like 8 track tapes, VHS tapes, and yes, landline phones. These polls absolutely do not reflect what is really on the horizon of the political landscape today. The sun is about to rise, and it's name is Ron Paul.

[Ridiculous]

"The polls don't mean anything at this point. In November and December of 2003, Kerry was polling around the same percentage as Al Sharpton.

Check if you don't believe me..."

[kjk437]

Here's mine:


Ron Paul's message is resonating with a segment of the population that doesn't usually subscribe to traditional media services and, as such, doesn't lend itself well to traditional polling methods. For example, my wife and I, both soon-to-be first time presidential voters in college, do not use a landline phone and so have never been called to give our opinion on the political landscape. Our voice is heard through forums and blogs across the internet and by our online donations to Dr. Paul's campaign.

[Falseflagop]

Go jack flood his comment page!

[dirka]

Two Simple Reasons:
1. They never test his name in the phone call polls
2. 90% of his support comes from people that have never voted before or are switching parties

I don't know how phone polls with no dedicated support can be more important than tens of thousands of people willing to give their hard earned money to a candidate during the Christmas season no less!

[freedominnumbers]

Doh. Cancel.

[DealzOnWheelz]

Well Jack it can be sumed up in one phrase “Human Error”

Now let me elaborate, Polling companies have stated that when polling they are calling republicans that voted in the last primary. That was four years ago and alot of people have since turned 18 who they are not polling. Second they only call landlines which being in the automotive sales industry I know not alot of people have/answer landlines especially with the invention of caller id. These polls also do not include independats or 3rd parties or democrats like myself that registered republican just for the good Dr Money Bags.

The worst reason which really pains me to know is the fact that Ron Paul isn’t even a choice. If you go on youtube and do a search for republican phone polling you will find a video with audio of a poller calling and the only choices you have are the Media elected(ie Mitt Romney, “Tax Hike” Mike Huckaby, Rudy “9/11″ Ghouliani, and John McCain/Thompson) And then you get the option of OTHER

I didn’t know John Other was running?!?

Sadly our process for choosing a president has been reduced to a popularuty contest similar to that at a Home Coming Prom to choose the Homecoming King/Queen.

Aside from the fact that the Mainstream media promises that Dr Paul is a kook, fringe, longshot, no chance, waste of vote, 3rd party and any other disparraging titles that they want to give him.

I’m deeply discouraged in the American Way. We now disregard policy and position and in place judge a candidate based on some of the “characters” that may support his policies and positions.

What has America Become?? That should be the question of the hour.

Thank you for considering my comments
A concerned Patriot
Christopher Deal

PS- Jack I have to thank you personally as I feel you have been one of the most fair and unbiased journalists to discuss Dr. Paul on your program

[texasbelle]

National polls are archaic and will soon fall by the wayside like 8 track tapes, VHS tapes, and yes, landline phones. These polls absolutely do not reflect what is really on the horizon of the political landscape today. The sun is about to rise, and it's name is Ron Paul.

love this one!

[TheNewYorker]

when will this be on?

[Ridiculous]

Between 4 & 5 PM

[dfalken]

This is what I sent to Jack:



The main reason traditional polls are not representative of true support for Ron Paul is their focus on Republican primary voters from the last election. Ron Paul's support base goes way beyond that. My wife and I attended the New York Headquarters party on Saturday night to kick off the fund raiser at midnight and were amazed to see the diversity amongst the several hundred attendees. We are both life long Republicans but were guessing that 25% or less of the people there looked like they might have been registered as Republicans in the last primary. We informally polled many in the crowd and it seems our suspicions were correct. Fact is neither my wife nor I have cast a ballot in any election since 2000, so our names can be added to silenced majority not represented in the traditional polls. Add to that the devotion we all have to this campaign, and I think the big losers in the coming primaries are going to be the polling outfits!

[brumans]

Sent in my response.

[Ridiculous]

Nothing longer than three sentences ever gets put on the air. Remember that your question needs to fit into two "slides" that they display next to his head.

[mavtek]

Maybe Ron Paul is wrong about the Dollar being worthless and losing it's value all over the world. Maybe it's these polls we keep hearing about that are worthless.

That's what I sent.

[olehounddog]

sent

[SJohnsson]

Mine:

A peculiar disconnect indeed. Perhaps 10 second soundbytes promoted by quick and easy political coverage fail to cover the depth and breadth of Ron Paul’s deeply rooted principles. Perhaps those on the internet, indulged in healthy discourse and near unlimited information have unearthed the long forgotten cornerstone of this great republic. Perhaps, Jack, the truth may just really set you free.

[crazyfacedjenkins]

left my message

[chinaCat]

I sent something short and sweet. I could've wrote much more, but I wanted the chance for it to be on the air.



Dr. Paul is not higher because of polling metrics and his biggest target: the rational thinkers. Who have long abandoned land-line phones in favor of Cell Phones and Email. The latter often don't even include the congressman. So who is surprised? Not me. Perhaps come primary time the GOP.


First time I ever wrote into anyone like this.

[BiPolarBear]

My comments to Jack:


Ron Paul is polling low for a number of factors such as lack of inclusion and unscientific polling methods. Polls are the equivalent of the "spin-room" after a debate. Full of useless, unprovable information to appease the wind bags that need something to talk about in order to remain employed due to their lack of any discernible skill.

[ChristopherJ]

Ron Paul is polling low for a number of factors such as lack of inclusion and unscientific polling methods. Polls are the equivalent of the "spin-room" after a debate. Full of useless, unprovable information to appease the wind bags that need something to talk about in order to remain employed due to their lack of any discernible skill.

Hahaha good one! I can totaly hear Jack reading this :)

[nist7]

Wow, so many comments and responses already......haha

[brianbb98]

I love the comments!! Read them all and I have no doubt at least one of them from here will be on... who will win? :) I read them to myself as if Jack was saying it, love that mans voice when he talks about the great doctor.

[rollingpig]

Freedom, Prosperity and Peace! I don't see any reason of that not being popular. These early polls are conducted on the republicans who voted for Bush last time. Huckabee's high numbers confirms that.
Take a look around the streets of America. People who never voted in their life are now waving signs in the snow trying to spread the "good news" that there's finally a candidate OF the people. Finally a candidate that speaks and acts according to principle. People are waking up from apathy and running for president through Ron Paul.

[Energy]

Short and simple:


What's the fascination with land-line polls anyway?

Do we need the opinions of a select group of people to drive our our decision-making process ?

[Falseflagop]

over 85 comments and counting so far!

[Brainsnake]

My reply:

There are two main reasons why Ron Paul seems to not be high in the polls. The first is the fact that a lot of "official" polls tend to like to exclude Ron Paul, or place him in the "Other" category. The second is that when Ron Paul does win polls, the media seems to like to not report the poll, or consider it illegitimate. In reality, when Ron Paul is included in a fair poll, he almost always wins it in a landslide.

[amonasro]

"Simple. The polls cited by the main-stream media only poll likely Republican voters, i.e. those who voted for Bush in 2004. Ron Paul draws support from a much wider range of people: Democrats, Independents, and most importantly, disenfranchised Republicans.

If there is anyone who can revive the shattered GOP it is Ron Paul."

[alieas007]

http://advancingnetworks.com/media/blitzer_amazing.jpg

[benhaskins]

the only real polls are at the primaries. if they aren't rigged by the voting machines.

[FreeTraveler]

I took a somewhat different approach:



Well-known pollster Frank Luntz has said it's important to "Ask a question in the way that you get the right answer."

Ask instead, "Why do those who commission polls, and those who report them, wish to marginalize the candidacy of the one candidate who has held consistent positions in support of the Constitution?"

Dr. Paul speaks truth to power when he explains the causes of America's current problems, including the soaring cost of living, the errosion of our civil liberties, the ongoing military expansion, and illegal immigration.

Which suggests one final question: "Why would those who have led us down the wrong path for so long, and those who profit, wish to hide those answers from "We, the people"?

(Source of the quote above: Penn & Teller interview with Frank Luntz, available in video format here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4) at 32 seconds.)

[Falseflagop]

over 139 comments ! WOW the McCain LIARbermen ques has 7 !!


GO RON !

[Oliver]

over 139 comments ! WOW the McCain LIARbermen ques has 7 !!

GO RON !

Maybe they should spend more focus on the
amount of comments - instead issues no one
replies to?

[newbitech]

4 p.m.: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he's not higher in the polls?

The polls are lagging what is really happening because the polls are hopelessly static.


Facts:
Ron Paul has about 120k individual contributors this quarter. (ronpaul2008.com)
The United States has a Population: 301,139,947 (July 2007 est.) (cia.gov)
According to this tracker, Doctor Paul Polls at an average of 4.5% nationally.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html
So we are led to believe that 4.5% of Americans support Ron Paul. Thats 13,551,298 people.
If Ron Paul had 4.5% nationally he would have raised over 1 billion dollars on the teaparty.
So this can only mean 1 of 2 things.
Less than 1% of the people who support Ron Paul actually donated to his campaign, or
the polls are an inaccurate way to gauge true support.

Lets step back for a minute and dispel and clarify some assumptions. First, as has been reported by many news outlets, Ron Paul has a very dedicated following of people. How dedicated we don't know.

Next, we know that there is no way all 300 million American's will vote in the primary. Sad but true. So, what will the turn out look like? Well, its happening in the dead of winter. Lets look at the last time a Republican primary took place when there was no Republican incumbent. According to the US Census, the population in the USA in 2000 was 281,421,906.

Next, according to thegreenpapers.com 19,519,539 Republicans voted in the 2000 primaries. Lets assume there will be a similar turnout year where about 7% of the population (.0693) will turnout to vote republican. 7% with todays population is 20,887,190. So if Doctor Paul is polling 4.5% of likely voters nationally that would mean his chunk of that is 939,923 voters. That means that about 13% of Pauls supporters have donated this quarter and 7% donated on largest fundraising day in political fundraising history.

Finally, lets consider the 25,000 new donors the Paul Campaigned picked up as of yesterday. If Doctor Pauls support/donor ratio this month is 10:1, that means that the campaign likely picked up and additional 250K new voters in 1 day.

There is no way for static polling that is currently done to reflect this increase in popularity. In fact, I think the polls may be lagging by as much as 2 months when attempting to indicate support. What is even more remarkable is that even though Paul's support is lagging in the poll thus, lackluster MSM coverage, Paul's support base continues to double and triple at an unprecedented rate.

The Polls are worthless when it comes to trying to figure out what 300 MILLION people will do and as long as Paul keeps picking up people who have never voted republican, don't own landline phones, crossing party lines, coming out of the independant woodwork, and not involved in politics in general, then you can expect the polls to be completely useless come primary and caucus time.

This is election cycle and specifically Ron Paul's Presidential campaign is really turning out to be a battle between Old Media and the internet. This is a battle of We the People vs Status Quo. We want change and we want your old school polls which determine who gets on OUR TV sets to take a hike. Money talks, garbage polls walk.

[Sandra]

My answer:

Jack, If Ron Paul won the presidency, it would pose a threat to every pork barrel project the federal government has created in the form of know nothing government agencies and their do nothing services. Pollsters are hand in hand with the pork, hired to promote the need for thier existence to masses. Do you think for a minute that they are going to promote Ron Paul at the expense of their masters?

Yep, Jack, YEE HAA!! It’s time for a pork barrel BBQ compliments of Ron Paul - Texas style!

P.S. Pollsters will need extra garlic salt.

[Falseflagop]

20 min until JACK !!! I bet a huge lead up to JACK by Wolfie first so watch at 4:00 !

[FreedomWon]

Very good - commment sent - there are many comments for him to choose from.

[robertwerden]

My answer to Jack:

Jack, Polls are phone calls made to people who voted in 2000 and 2004.
No Ron Paul supporter would ever have voted for Bush!
We are the 100,000,000 people who typically don't vote. Get ready for a landslide upset.

[TheNewYorker]

3 minutes. get your dvr's ready. this needs utubed.

[peznex]

Closing bell! It's coming up!

[crhoades]

It should come as no surprise. In CNN’s own YouTube debate the questions picked for him were deplorable. One was trying to make him look conspiritorial whereas the other one asked if he was going to run 3rd party for the umpteenth time. I’m sure if America would hear of his views of limited government, fiscal conservativism, and a strong national defense - his numbers would be higher.


Basically - CNN's YouTube debate was a good example of media bias against him and helps to keep the numbers low.

[ross11988]

No AIPAC Wolf Blitzer today....

[voytechs]

YouTube recorder all fired up and ready!!!

[pacelli]

Cafferty is on now talking about Ron Paul. No youtube here.

[hellah10]

bah! im at work... someone get the youtube ready :)

[Jaykzo]

Awesome.

[d991]

Great talk about Dr. Paul by Cafferty! And he complimented all the Ron Paul supporters out there and their dedication.

[pacelli]

Cafferty will read the answers to the 4pm question soon when they go back to him. He said that he's already received 700-800 responses.

[peznex]

We control the Internet! HAHA!
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[thePhilosopher]

I'm very very pleased with the way Mr. Cafferty handled the topic in question today. Looking forward to some great responses, guys (and maybe even my own!).

[alieas007]

I'm at work too!!! YouTube and your my new hero :)

[peznex]

I'm at work too!!! YouTube and your my new hero :)

Listen here:

Right here

http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

[awitelin]

I though Cafferty's introductory piece about RP supporters was very kind and painted a great picture of us as enthusiastic and positive folks. I hope the comments that everyone sent to Cafferty were polite and on-topic so as not to spoil such a great start!

[Troyhand]

He already got several hundred emails. LOL
Is that all? I'd expect a few thousand.

Cafferty: "It's pretty AMAZING."
Thanks, Jack. With Wolf on his sabbatical, we knew you'd give us the WORD!

[Delain]

Great talk about Dr. Paul by Cafferty! And he complimented all the Ron Paul supporters out there and their dedication.

Those 3 spammers at it again?

[jd603]

They still marginalize him. So sad.

They are also already starting to down-play his win in NH , yes you heard me. They said "there's a lot of libertarians in NH" , blahblah , they will write off NH and PUSH Iowa results.

NH's elections are not corrupt like Iowa's. Iowa had the paperless Diebold machines last elections didn't they? ..and they didn't decertify the machines the way the Florida courts did , did they?

[matthylland]

Those 3 spammers at it again?

there might be 6 now...

[kjk437]

So far, an enjoyable report. Looking forward to him reading some of the e-mails.

[greves]

Is this stream delayed?
http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

[schmeisser]

Is this stream delayed?
http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

I'm hearing McCain/Lieberman love fest

[peznex]

Is this stream delayed?
http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

It's just a little delayed.

[Forefall]

jesus how long are they going to talk to these two douchebags?

[Sandra]

What is McCain thinking accepting Leiberman's endorsement?

[clayton]

Jack,

It’s simple. We haven’t figured out how to use our “spam bots” in the “real” polls just yet. Trust me, the Ron Paul Grassroots movement (and American People) will know how to do it in 17 days. Take my word on it.

....

[Forefall]

What is McCain thinking accepting Leiberman's endorsement?

He's just trying to steal as many votes as he cans before he fails miserably.

[ronpaulfollower999]

Is this stream delayed?
http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

Sounds delayed to me.

[Peppy690]

yea these two guys need to stop talking

[rollingpig]

....

LOL good one

[ronpaulfollower999]

What is McCain thinking accepting Leiberman's endorsement?

Because they both love war.

[celticsman7]

Last week, it was Huckabee. Now, it's McCain. If Paul got the endorsement of Chuck Hagel or Ross Perot I doubt they'd give him this much coverage.

[parke]

Cafferty really is the man. He sits at his desk and reads what people are talking about. We should all do something for the guy.

[cicatrice]

I'm hearing McCain/Lieberman love fest

*yaaaaawn* Still going, too!

[awitelin]

What is McCain thinking accepting Leiberman's endorsement?

He's thinking he's really, really desperate...

[hellah10]

im so sick of this mccain liberman crap

[BlueGecko]

Did we miss it its a pro isreal lobby lovefest:mad:

[peznex]

This is OK. It gives Cafferty more time to sort out the thousand emails he received and get a good segment together. PLUS, more people are getting home from work today as it gets later.

[Shellshock1918]

You Tube!

[Sandra]

How can those two stand to be apart?

[voytechs]

YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nm1VlFSFPRs

[MarcMadness]

Here's what I sent in to Jack...

Why isn't Ron Paul higher in the polls? Maybe the same reason Huckabee suddenly 'surged' in the polls despite barely registering a blip on the fundraising radar. The media creates our reality. If Hillary Clinton or Rudy Guliani raised over 6 million dollars in one day we would never hear the end of it. But since the media pundits have decided for us that Ron Paul is a 'longshot' -- despite his incredible fundraising success, having the most donations from active members of the military and having won more Straw Polls than any other candidate -- that is how he is portrayed, successes be damned. The polls, which I don't tend to give a lot of credence to for a number of reasons, are simply a reflection of the reality that those in the media have crafted for us.

I sometimes wonder if it weren't for you Jack, would we even be hearing about Ron Paul on the Situation Room today?

[BlueGecko]

ha there going to trash huckabee then hopefully lead into us

[peznex]

YouTube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nm1VlFSFPRs

Yes! Great job!

You can see my commment. haha

[reaver]

The real question is why Giuliani, McCain, and Huckabee still can't win straw polls but top their phone polls.

[RevolutionSD]

MAN I AM SO NAUSEOUS HAVING TO WATCH CNN PROMOTE MCCAIN AND HIS WAR MONGERING BUDDY LIEBERMANN!!!!!! :mad:

[thePhilosopher]

Here's what I sent in to Jack...

Why isn't Ron Paul higher in the polls? Maybe the same reason Huckabee suddenly 'surged' in the polls despite barely registering a blip on the fundraising radar. The media creates our reality. If Hillary Clinton or Rudy Guliani raised over 6 million dollars in one day we would never hear the end of it. But since the media pundits have decided for us that Ron Paul is a 'longshot' -- despite his incredible fundraising success, having the most donations from active members of the military and having won more Straw Polls than any other candidate -- that is how he is portrayed, successes be damned. The polls, which I don't tend to give a lot of credence to for a number of reasons, are simply a reflection of the reality that those in the media have crafted for us.

I sometimes wonder if it weren't for you Jack, would we even be hearing about Ron Paul on the Situation Room today?

Nicely done, sir. I've made similar points, mostly demonstrating that phone polls are obsolete.

[wfd40]

Here's what I sent in to Jack...

Why isn't Ron Paul higher in the polls? Maybe the same reason Huckabee suddenly 'surged' in the polls despite barely registering a blip on the fundraising radar. The media creates our reality. If Hillary Clinton or Rudy Guliani raised over 6 million dollars in one day we would never hear the end of it. But since the media pundits have decided for us that Ron Paul is a 'longshot' -- despite his incredible fundraising success, having the most donations from active members of the military and having won more Straw Polls than any other candidate -- that is how he is portrayed, successes be damned. The polls, which I don't tend to give a lot of credence to for a number of reasons, are simply a reflection of the reality that those in the media have crafted for us.

I sometimes wonder if it weren't for you Jack, would we even be hearing about Ron Paul on the Situation Room today?

That was put very well..

Thanks you sir

:)

[Sandra]

When did Hillary lose her Southern accent?

[ronpaulfollower999]

The real question is why Giuliani, McCain, and Huckabee still can't win straw polls but top their phone polls.

Cant figure that one out either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Straw_poll_results2.jpg

Paul- 17
Romney- 9
Thompson- 6
Hunter- 2
Huckabee- 2
Giuliani- 1

[thePhilosopher]

I love Hillary talking about who she is when the cameras aren't rolling and when no one is taking notes in front of cameras and reporters. The circularity makes me dizzy!:confused::D

[greves]

When did Hillary lose her Southern accent?

When she wasn't talking to Southern voters.

[lasenorita]

That's an awesome response MarcMadness. Mine probably won't get past the moderator, but who knows? :p


Here’s my question: If Ron Paul supporters independent from the campaign can raise $6 million in one day, why can’t I-am-higher-in-the-polls-than-thou Giuliabee McRompson?

[TheNewYorker]

When is he going to pick one of our answers to his question?

[BlueGecko]

ITS the in two more segments maybe 5 min ?

[Sandra]

Jack's on after this commercial!

[brianbb98]

live feed anywhere??

[rollingpig]

live feed anywhere??

http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

[StateofTrance]

CNN TV : Free Radio Streaming <Hear Jack Cafferty here>

http://www.cnn.com/audio/radio/cnntv.html

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

I think Cafferty's question should have been turned around: "If the other candidates have so much popular support, why can't they raise as much money as Ron Paul?"

[BlueGecko]

Someone grabbing for youtube ?

[Troyhand]

mine

Quote:
Because the polls you show use the antiquated method of calling landlines only and do not reach out to the vast numbers of people that just have cellphones. Because the polls you show question only voters from the previous election and have no clue how many new voters are waiting off the radar ready to elect Ron Paul. Because Ron Paul is a serious threat to the establishment. But you folks in the media already knew that.

sent

[rollingpig]

dont you just hate bush??

[devil21]

Nice plug for RP on Beck tomorrow shown.

[brandon]

Just ran a commercial about ron paul on glenn beck on cnn.

[brianbb98]

Nice plug for RP on Beck tomorrow shown.

you people are fast! not a second after i heard it myself..

[BlueGecko]

Oh god I just puked a little in my mouth, I didn't see the Bush speech coming quick enough to mute it....

[MRoCkEd]

Just ran a commercial about ron paul on glenn beck on cnn.
yeah, what a great feeling to hear "RON PAUL" right when i turn on my tv

[RevolutionSD]

I got tired of watching crap like Bush on CNN so I had to turn off the TV. Someone please Youtube it quickly!!

[mconder]

Please Youtube This!!

[rollingpig]

Oh god I just puked a little in my mouth, I didn't see the Bush speech coming quick enough to mute it....

how did u react to the earlier segment?
McCain & Lieberman , 2 men, 1 cup

[sirachman]

Has it been on yet?

[BlueGecko]

how did u react to the earlier segment?
McCain & Lieberman , 2 men, 1 cup

That future leads to a worse middle east if that's possible with those two Isreal can do not wrong and Iran war comes up next week

ha ha 2 men 1 cup, classic just gotta make sure its kosher

[1913_to_2008]

not yet

[JoeySweets]

Didn't ask the Panel ONCE about the BIGGEST FUNDRAISING DAY IN POLITICAL HISTORY..

how can you not bring that Up.

Bogus

[SJohnsson]

dear god, put the doctor on already

[BlueGecko]

Has it been on yet?

the first part about 6 mill but the q and a emails are coming up

[devil21]

Hold!

[SJohnsson]

Didn't ask the Panel ONCE about the BIGGEST FUNDRAISING DAY IN POLITICAL HISTORY..

how can you not bring that Up.

Bogus

It really is stupefying, but it makes us firmer in our resolve

[greves]

Is he on yet? Isn't the show over in 3 minutes?

[u2canbfmj]

Jack,

FU FRANK

Penn & Teller

[shepburn]

They always hold out Ron Paul til the end .... do they know something about how many of us there are??? I guess so!

lol

[shepburn]

Ghouliani is givin' up on New Hampshire!

haha

[SJohnsson]

They always hold out Ron Paul til the end .... do they know something about how many of us there are??? I guess so!

lol

and it works every time

[newbitech]

OMG I know why I threw away my tv 5 years ago! I am listening to this streaming and there is some commercial that says happy holiDUHs!! F these people man!

[BlueGecko]

Its On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shepburn]

Huckatard is broke!

[sirachman]

woot its on:)

[newbitech]

here we go.

[shepburn]

I don't like the first email, but most of them rocked it!

[BlueGecko]

good emails 1 bad

[shepburn]

John King is a tool box

[sirachman]

That rocked. Anyone see the 5billion responses that question got? Yeah. We rock.

[AggieforPaul]

youtube

[StateofTrance]

Not bad.

[werdd]

1 said, ron pauls message sucks, hahahah - the intelligence of Ron Paul defectors.

[devil21]

"Because his message sucks". Wow, kudos to whoever the genius that crafted that response is. :rolleyes:

[newbitech]

meh, that was kinda crap. didn't answer the question.

[BLS]

John King is a tool box


No shit....agreed.

[BlueGecko]

Damn no email about how polls only represent 2004 Bushies

[amonasro]

"His message sucks" ???

WTF is with that? What a stupid email.

[2young2vote]

good emails 1 bad

Yup and the bad one had absolutely no facts to back it up. It just shows us that they don't like him because they are american freedom haters.

[peznex]

The first part was alot better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1VlFSFPRs

[thePhilosopher]

I love how none of the letters mentioned that the polls are primarily based on land-line polling of Republicans that registered in 2004 for the election. That's clearly why Ron isn't polling higher, but I guess that answer is too simple and rational to be true.

[StateofTrance]

"His message sucks" --- well Jack wanted to show how stupid people could be by writing like that. Jack did us a favor.

[Mental Dribble]

I did not like blitzers replacements comment "I told you they would be interesting" SCREW YOU DUDE

[Spike Kojima]

Not one mention that he isnt even on all polls or that the polls aren't reaching new or returning Republicans.

[peznex]

I did not like blitzers replacements comment "I told you they would be interesting" SCREW YOU DUDE

Yeah, WTF was up with that??

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

I thought those letters were awesome. :D

[fgd]

youtube 2nd half?

[devil21]

I thought those letters were awesome. :D

They weren't bad but they didn't really get to the heart of the polling issues. Probably intentionally.

[newbitech]

none of those answers had anything to do with the tea party which had 25k first time donors. None of those answers had anything to do with the money raised. They still only focused on the polls. I wish someone would shove a poll.........

[weatherbill]

It Was Awsome! It Was On At About 3:58

[JayAre]

Not one mention that he isnt even on all polls or that the polls aren't reaching new or returning Republicans.

i know, wtf, thats probably the biggest reason he's not higher in the polls.

[PatriotOne]

Did mine make it? Probably waaaaaay too long for Cafferty but Lew Rockwell picked it up as one of the insightfuls on his blog:

Depends on which poll you are talking about. Do you mean the so-called scientific polls where the GOP party refuses to even name Ron Paul as a choice of candidates on the poll? Do you mean the poll that doesn’t name Ron Paul as a choice but his numbers and his supporter’s are forced to either choose “other” or “undecided” for lack of other options? Or do you mean a poll that only polls Republicans that voted Republican in 2004 which is a very poor reflection of his support? As a person who is very familiar with who is supporting Ron Paul, the real numbers are reflected in a cross section of Americans who are changing parties just for him. Independents, Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, people who have never even voted before, and everything else you can imagine. A poll of card carrying Republicans, rarely even given the choice of Ron Paul as an option, is a pathetic reflection of his support. The polls are not a reflection of someone’s popularity, it’s just another tool of the NeoCons to manipulate people to tell them who to vote for.
Don’t believe me? Feel free to request the recording one Ron Paul supporter made while being polled a few weeks back. No Ron Paul option and when the person choose “other”, the recording said thanks and told them they would be removed from the calling list. In other words they aren’t interested in polling people who choose Ron Paul. And there are many reports from Ron Paul supporter’s of similar shenanigans.

[koob]

email responses were great! "he loves the country more than he loves himself." so true.

[kalami]

none of those answers had anything to do with the tea party which had 25k first time donors. None of those answers had anything to do with the money raised. They still only focused on the polls. I wish someone would shove a poll.........

The question had to do with the polls.

[newbitech]

The question had to do with the polls.

read the question again.

[kalami]

"If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he's not higher in the polls? "

[newbitech]

thats right. so did you here anything to do with the first part of the question?

[rollingpig]

missed the second part.. any utube link ?

[bc2208]

Was that comment from "John" a Ron Paul comment? He said "check to see who people are endorsing - with their wallets."

This was on the McCain endorsement question.

[jcizzle]

Clearly was. I think there were at least 2 thinly veiled RP supporters in that segment. :)

[newbitech]

was thinking the same thing, notice how the host guy was like yeah "your people" and Caferty was like "I'll sick them on you" very telling between the lines stuff going on there.

[michaelwise]

Cafferty Complete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGLw_1gIgO8

[rg123]

Not one mention that he isnt even on all polls or that the polls aren't reaching new or returning Republicans.

I noticed that too and 95% of the post on the blog with that very thing.

The e-mails he read was exactly why they do not report the truth it allways has to be slanted can't win, kook, longshot, etc, etc

[newbitech]

heh Cafferty calls polls "hypothetical"

[BiPolarBear]

Cafferty Complete.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGLw_1gIgO8

Thank you! :)

[mport1]

Everybody mention the only reason he is polling low is because the media won't cover him and when they do they tell the viewer that he is a long-shot, low in the polls, and not gonna win.

[hellah10]

oh thats awesome.... walter representing Toledo, Ohio!!!!

whoever was the little shit that said his message sucks needs to get his head out of his ass

[newbitech]

how the hell are they saying that Doctor Paul is short on support but has the most money. When will these fools recognize 28k new donors on Nov. 5th and 25k new donors on Dec 16th?

over 120k donors for the quarter. Will any other candidate come out and say how many individual donors they have? Thats the real poll right there! Damn the media. I am turning this crap off (streaming cnn), its pointless.

Talking about Liberman and McCain ooohhhhh soooo dramatic. that just caught liberman in a lie and they are letting him spin his lies and not calling him on it. f-ing disgusting.