Elites/Neocons dumping Giuliani (in favor of McCain?)

[Nihilist23]

This is the first time I've seen Bill Kristol say anything that wasn't overwhelmingly positive about Giuliani:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/16/william-the-bloody-ring-the-death-knell-on-giulianis-campaign/

It makes sense, with all the baggage Giuliani has. The old media tried to ignore it but the new media has been exposing Giuliani for months, if not years.

Now with McCain's endorsements from the Des Moines Register, Boston Globe, and his buddy Joe Lieberman, it looks like McCain is the one they want to push.

Look for McCain to steadily rise in the "polls" in the upcoming weeks.

[rfbz]

what exactly did Giuliani do during 911? He walked around the streets, gave a speech..and...

[Dave Pedersen]

It doesn't fit with the far reaching calculating methodology of the elitists to flip and flop desperately from one lame horse to another.

I smell a rat.

[Nihilist23]

John Kerry was a lame horse until he won Iowa. Things can and will change quickly, which is what typically happens.

[joelfarm]

Yup. you are right, this morning(12-17), McCain is the media buzz word. All the talking heads are now talking HIM up, dumping the cross-dresser, huckabee and pretty boy mitt. Who is missing from this picture? After the greatest, most spectacular event by any of the candidates this season, Dr. Paul barely rates a mention by MSM. Typical, predictable, dejectable. damn them all to hell.

[thisisgiparti]

They've been pushing Giuliani for years, but he's too unlikable. There's nothing else they can do. This is McCain's swan song. We've seen it coming for a while.

[Pete]

Trying to pump McCain for NH, I think.

[Nihilist23]

Bump.

[rodent]

Easy for us to counter then. We just have to go to the anti-illegal immigration groups and tell them that none of their candidates have a shot, except Ron Paul. Huck is not anti-illegal, Tancredo has no chance in hell, and neither does Hunter. Fred Thompson is not going to win, and he'd end up splitting the vote with the other pro-war loons.

Anyone who wants to prevent illegal immigration has to go with Paul. There is just no other option.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Exactly. McCain is a non-starter on the illegal immigration issue. All anyone has to do is play the video from when he offered Americans $50/hour to pick lettuce, and told us we couldn't do it.

http://blog.aflcio.org/2006/04/05/50-an-hour-to-pick-lettuce-you-bet/

He's nothing more than a water-carrier for Bush, whose numbers are in the tank.

[angrydragon]

The blinded Neo-con followers will be more lost in who to choose now, they can't make up there minds. They might just end up voting for Dr. Paul.

[persian_x]

Theyre funding both so it doesnt matter.. They got enough money dont worry

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