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literatim
12-16-2007, 11:32 PM
Moderators, can we get a sub-forum?

Also what is the website for it? I know I saw it around here somewhere.

Paul4Prez
12-16-2007, 11:32 PM
Yes, $20 million for the quarter is looking like a juicy target.

vadimg
12-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Moderators, can we get a sub-forum?

Also what is the website for it? I know I saw it around here somewhere.

Done! http://donate2008.org

trispear
12-16-2007, 11:34 PM
Let's call it a mini-bomb and make it clear our goal is just to get over the 20M mark. I fear having too many major bombs in such a short time can be tiring.

yongrel
12-16-2007, 11:35 PM
uh...

literatim
12-16-2007, 11:36 PM
I say we shoot high again. Make it as big as Nov 5th and Dec 16th.

Richandler
12-16-2007, 11:36 PM
I think filling the quill will suffice. These money bomb always cause too much crap and fighting.

vadimg
12-16-2007, 11:37 PM
Let's call it a mini-bomb and make it clear our goal is just to get over the 20M mark. I fear having too many major bombs in such a short time can be tiring.

we may be close to 20mil by 31st so http://donate2008.org goal is to raise 2.8 mil on 31st

Midnight77
12-16-2007, 11:38 PM
$20 Million for the Quarter it is. It has been decided.

JDeVriese
12-16-2007, 11:38 PM
"$20Million by the end of the year to restore the constitution"

How's that?

Libertarian
12-16-2007, 11:40 PM
How much would it cost to rent the main billboards in Times Square for the New Year's Bash? (seen by millions on broadcast TV)

If we can make a freakin blimp (http://www.RonPaulblimp.com), we can do anything!

Dec 31st 1-million dollar Moneybomb + RP ads in Times Square = :D:eek::D

Korey Kaczynski
12-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I disagree on 31st. We should do 29 or 30th, since 31 is a common drinking holiday and people are going to be partying instead of sitting at their computer..

RPinSEAZ
12-16-2007, 11:42 PM
Money bombs are to get attention. A mini bomb will do nothing that tonight's didn't already do. All you are doing by promoting another money bomb is to delay the date that the dollars will get to the campaign.

JDeVriese
12-16-2007, 11:42 PM
Times Square would be neat for the 31st.

Richandler
12-16-2007, 11:44 PM
I beg you guys, no money bomb on the 31st. It will not be big, IT WILL CAUSE TOO MUCH FIGHTING, it's new years eve, and The donations will spill over into the wrong quarter.

kotetu
12-16-2007, 11:46 PM
add this to the first post in the thread:

WE BEAT Kerry's one day record. We beat Clinton's one day (fake) record. We beat EVERY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE'S BEST QUARTER, except one....

QUARTER 1 - Mitt Romney - $21,084,634

We're only $3 million away. Who wants to go for it?

The quarter so far....

Candidate Money Raised, Q4 Q3 to Q4
Ron Paul $18,050,000.00 +243%


Previous quarters....

Candidate Money Raised, 3Q Q2 to Q3 change
Rudy Giuliani $11,624,255.00 -34%
Mitt Romney $9,896,719.00 -31%
Fred Thompson $9,750,820.00
John McCain $5,734,477.00 -16%
Ron Paul $5,258,455.00 +142%
Mike Huckabee $1,034,486.00 +35%
Duncan Hunter $486,356.00 -40%
Tom Tancredo $767,152.00 -48%

Candidate Money Raised, 2Q Q1 to Q2 change
Rudy Giuliani $17,599,292 -2%
Mitt Romney $14,275,263 -32%
John McCain $11,591,044 -22%
Ron Paul $2,369,453 +270%
Tom Tancredo $1,466,188 +17%
Duncan Hunter $814,417 +51%
Mike Huckabee $765,873 +41%

Candidate Money Raised, Q1
Mitt Romney $21,084,634
Rudy Giuliani $18,029,974
John McCain $14,798,613
Tom Tancredo $1,256,090
Ron Paul $639,989
Mike Huckabee $544,157
Duncan Hunter $538,524

literatim
12-16-2007, 11:47 PM
I disagree on 31st. We should do 29 or 30th, since 31 is a common drinking holiday and people are going to be partying instead of sitting at their computer..

Dude, this is the internet. ;)

ultimaonliner
12-16-2007, 11:47 PM
I disagree on 31st. We should do 29 or 30th, since 31 is a common drinking holiday and people are going to be partying instead of sitting at their computer..

QFT.

Many of us will be out celebrating New Year's Eve and be too busy to donate on that day.

Not to mention many people won't even be paying attention to any MSM news coverage that might come out of a money bomb.

vadimg
12-16-2007, 11:48 PM
How much would it cost to rent the main billboards in Times Square for the New Year's Bash? (seen by millions on broadcast TV)

If we can make a freakin blimp (http://www.RonPaulblimp.com), we can do anything!

Dec 31st 1-million dollar Moneybomb + RP ads in Times Square = :D:eek::D

they guy quoted me $270k for times square on 31st

JDeVriese
12-16-2007, 11:49 PM
add this to the first post in the thread:

WE BEAT Kerry's one day record. We beat Clinton's one day (fake) record. We beat EVERY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE'S BEST QUARTER, except one....

QUARTER 1 - Mitt Romney - $21,084,634

We're only $3 million away. Who wants to go for it?

The quarter so far....

Candidate Money Raised, Q4 Q3 to Q4
Ron Paul $18,050,000.00 +243%



Awe heck, might as well!

deltabourne
12-16-2007, 11:50 PM
Mini-bomb December 31st, then a nice break until a megabomb February 18th on President's Day is my vote

curiousobserver
12-16-2007, 11:50 PM
concentrate on vote bombs now!!

literatim
12-16-2007, 11:52 PM
Why make it a mini-bomb? This will be our last chance to add to Q4 donations.

vadimg
12-16-2007, 11:53 PM
Mini-bomb December 31st, then a nice break until a megabomb February 18th on President's Day is my vote

let's raise 2.8 mil http://donate2008.org

literatim
12-16-2007, 11:55 PM
I say we go for $10 million again.

James R
12-16-2007, 11:56 PM
Moderators, can we get a sub-forum?

Also what is the website for it? I know I saw it around here somewhere.

No more money for the official campaign. Lets give to our own efforts for now on. Like the gun magazine ads for example.

jhabers
12-16-2007, 11:56 PM
they guy quoted me $270k for times square on 31st

Hey, i know im a new member...long time lurker/donator but I own ronpaultimessquare.com (registered a little while ago). I think a time square ad is a great idea and will give it to anyone that has the ability to organize...

Second_Tier_My_Ass
12-16-2007, 11:57 PM
i think right now we should be focusing on raising more funds for the blimp. i think we can all see how much publicity it is capable of generating, and it hasn't even been in the air for that long (like a day, right?). we should ensure that we can keep it at least until super tuesday.

i think the publicity surrounding tonight's money bomb as well as the blimp will help to bring in the extra money needed to get us to 20 million.

vadimg
12-16-2007, 11:59 PM
Hey, i know im a new member...long time lurker/donator but I own ronpaultimesquare.com (registered a little while ago). I think a time square ad is a great idea and will give it to anyone that has the ability to organize...

http://ronpaultime.com

Drknows
12-17-2007, 12:00 AM
Done! http://donate2008.org

Thats a beautiful site design plus its on NEW YEARS EVE!

im in!

jhabers
12-17-2007, 12:00 AM
http://ronpaultime.com

cool could just always forward my domain there :)

Copperhed51
12-17-2007, 12:00 AM
i think right now we should be focusing on raising more funds for the blimp. i think we can all see how much publicity it is capable of generating, and it hasn't even been in the air for that long (like a day, right?). we should ensure that we can keep it at least until super tuesday.

i think the publicity surrounding tonight's money bomb as well as the blimp will help to bring in the extra money needed to get us to 20 million.

I agree. Let's focus on funding our own projects now. The campaign has enough money to do whatever they want. No more money bombs. Hopefully we'll make $20 million anyway.

NCSURonPaulAddict
12-17-2007, 12:02 AM
Wow donate2008.org is a GREAT site already! I think it's a great idea to get people to show a little holiday cheer on that day and push us over the 20 mil mark for the quarter. It won't take much to make it to that point and New Year's is an exciting time to do it.

After we hit that even 20 million I'd say money should be funneled to the grassroots projects instead....

ProfNo
12-17-2007, 12:02 AM
20 mil...for sure

Exarel
12-17-2007, 12:02 AM
Enough with moneybombs.. People shouldn't be discouraged from regular donating. Sure 20 mill is good and solid goal, but trying to make another HUGE bomb like today just a couple weeks away is not fair or practical. Just setting up for disappointment.

Richandler
12-17-2007, 12:05 AM
Enough with moneybombs.. People shouldn't be discouraged from regular donating. Sure 20 mill is good and solid goal, but trying to make another HUGE bomb like today just a couple weeks away is not fair or practical. Just setting up for disappointment.

Thank you, for supporting this. We have proven our point this time around. Now lets just focus on an end goal of 20 Million. At hit it by the 31st, not on the day with potential to spill into 2008.

xexkxex
12-17-2007, 12:06 AM
http://donate2008.org/

Already 160+ sign ups...sounds good to me....I'm there. No worries. :)

I'm already maxed out but my 81 year old grandmother wants to donate the cash I am giving her for Christmas :D

the_oco
12-17-2007, 12:06 AM
The money bombs have been great, but now I think we should hold off on that approach for now, and just set a new goal and try to reach it before the end of the quarter. I'm sure in the last day or two before the quarter is up there will be a big push to finish strong, I'm just weary of the tension that two many events like today will create

We're are obviously the strongest sprinters, now lets work on the long game.

Ronin
12-17-2007, 12:07 AM
Enough with moneybombs.. People shouldn't be discouraged from regular donating. Sure 20 mill is good and solid goal, but trying to make another HUGE bomb like today just a couple weeks away is not fair or practical. Just setting up for disappointment.

+1.

We need to chill out for a little while. We should hit 20mil in the next couple weeks even without a bomb.

If money is expended it needs to go to the various grassroots efforts. The campaign is set. Now lets support the troops on the ground. Oh, and don't forget about the blimp. That still needs money or it won't fly through Jan.

xexkxex
12-17-2007, 12:11 AM
For anyone who is poo pooing the money bomb...

Look...http://donate2008.org/ is, and has been rolling for a while now...if you don't want to participate..then don't...real simple.

I don't see the site being taken down after all the sign ups it has and it's links it has all over the net ..plus the videos...

....it's will be small, yes..like Rudy's reading list.....but who cares...money coming in is always a good thing...don't try to stop that.....

the_oco
12-17-2007, 12:12 AM
Why not set that site up with a goal of 20mil in mind?

boondoggle
12-17-2007, 12:13 AM
The goal should be the 20/21 million mark . . . MAYBE 24 million to double the goal. That'd be nifty.

idiotwind
12-17-2007, 12:13 AM
Donate to opereration nh, or go door to door. The campaign has enough money for now, people should be working on getting people to vote.

Taco John
12-17-2007, 12:17 AM
I think we should have a money bomb on January 15th, right after our huge wins in Iowa and New Hampshire. A record breaking day then would make us look inevitable. Already, the other campaigns are going to take huge criticism of their inability to fund raise. When we go in and make a stronger showing in Iowa than they expect, and then win New Hampshire, a 6 million dollar day right before the South Carolina primary will convince a lot of voters there that this thing is for real, and they had better get on the winning team.

literatim
12-17-2007, 12:18 AM
I think the day before New Hampshire would be best.

xexkxex
12-17-2007, 12:18 AM
Donate to opereration nh, or go door to door. The campaign has enough money for now, people should be working on getting people to vote.

Just becasue some does one thing does not mean they are not doing the other things ;)

People can help out how they want...that is their choice...I spread it out and go door to door with my two girls, chipins, LFOD, campaign..etc....if someone wants to only donate to the campaign...I think we need to let them and try to tell them that that they need to do something else or a combination of many things.....;)

Richandler
12-17-2007, 12:20 AM
The 31st is a bad idea. It will spill into the next year. We need to prioritize 20 million before the 31st. Then do whatever bomb you must.

idiotwind
12-17-2007, 12:22 AM
Who's telling them they can't do something? I'm just saying what's best. If everyone on the forums convinced 1 person to vote ron paul it would do more good than a moneybomb. Diminishing returns ftw

DirtMcGirt
12-17-2007, 12:22 AM
we need a new term, more creative, no mas "bombs"...

MidnightUT
12-17-2007, 12:26 AM
Hey guys, this might be impossible. And it's probably induced by sleep deprivation and a wonderful emotional roller coaster from today :)

Anyway, how amazing would it be if we could show just how organized we are to pull of an exact $20,000,000.00 quarter.

The more I think about it, the more rediculous this probably is. It'd be almost impossible to hold back the floodgates of Dr. Paul's support. But it'd be cool if we could get just close enough so that at the very end of the 31st one lucky person could donate that last $17.76 or whatever to round out the quarter at an exact $20mil.

Ha, oh well, thought I'd put it out there. After a day like today nothing seems impossible.

vadimg
12-17-2007, 12:28 AM
Why not set that site up with a goal of 20mil in mind?

because we can reach that beforehand

pledge at http://donate2008.org

literatim
12-17-2007, 12:29 AM
Why not set a $10 million goal?

vadimg
12-17-2007, 12:31 AM
Why not set a $10 million goal?

if 16th didnt bring in 10 mil with more than a month of advertising nothing else will, 2.8 is a reasonable goal

http://donate2008.org

xexkxex
12-17-2007, 12:32 AM
Who's telling them they can't do something?

Hey...I just read what you wrote....


Donate to opereration nh, or go door to door. The campaign has enough money for now, people should be working on getting people to vote.

You didn't ask...you told...;)

You are telling people to do something. People reserve the right to choose what to do with their money.



I'm just saying what's best.

No..that is your opinion on what is best...



If everyone on the forums convinced 1 person to vote ron paul it would do more good than a moneybomb. Diminishing returns ftw

Yes...and we all do our part how we each see fit. Telling people that what they want to do is not right and telling them to do something different is not the way to go about things.

If you do not want to participate in the money bomb..then don't...others will..and just because you have an opinion that it might not be the best idea for you matters very little to those who have already signed up for it and are looking forward to it.

So when you poo poo on something that someone has worked very hard on and others have already signed onto weeks ago...think.;)

There was a time when someone would get on this board with 3 posts and talk down about a project and 50 people would jump on them for being a troll......I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and explained my posts and position as well as I could through logic and how you came off...

No need to be upset...you just need to know that 160+ people are already behind this project and kicking dirt on it is not cool....

Talk to you later :)

idiotwind
12-17-2007, 12:32 AM
reading comprehension ftw

literatim
12-17-2007, 12:33 AM
if 16th didnt bring in 10 mil with more than a month of advertising nothing else will, 2.8 is a reasonable goal

http://donate2008.org


'Reasonable' goals do not bring in money. This has been proven with many money bombs in the past. People don't try as hard when the goal isn't set high. $10 million gives a large goal to reach.

We got $4.3 million on November 5th with 2 weeks of advertising.

Minuteman
12-17-2007, 12:52 AM
I think you need to give the moneybomb thing a rest for awhile. WE have more than enough money now for the primaries. Do something productive with you time now, become a delegate. Ron Paul could have 100million in the bank and it wouldnt matter at all if he doesnt have delegates at the national convention

Turn turn a good thing into a dead horse.

literatim
12-17-2007, 12:54 AM
No we do not have more than enough money for the primaries. We have 50 States to advertise in.

Becoming a delegate has absolutely nothing to do with money bombs.

Eric23
12-17-2007, 12:56 AM
It's Christmas time and people are strapped for cash. No more bombs.

Minuteman
12-17-2007, 12:58 AM
I have been begging people to donate for 2mnths now for Nov5th and Dec16th. I have better things to do right now than put pressure on those people to donate even more at Christmas.

literatim
12-17-2007, 12:59 AM
I have been begging people to donate for 2mnths now for Nov5th and Dec16th. I have better things to do right now than put pressure on those people to donate even more at Christmas.

No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to participate.

fletcher
12-17-2007, 12:59 AM
Donate whenever you have to money to donate. The campaign needs the money now. Future moneybombs won't get any press. No more moneybombs.

literatim
12-17-2007, 01:01 AM
Future money bombs will get press if they are large enough. December 31st is only a few days before Iowa where we need momentum. It will also effect Q4 donations which we need to be 1st in on the GOP side to gain even more momentum going into Super Tuesday.

Gimme Some Truth
12-17-2007, 01:15 AM
Just beat the 21mill of Romneys Q1 fundraising.

Whatever happens a 31st money bomb isnt gonna go anywhere near nov5th or today. Please believe us and not the "we can raise 1 trillion on dec 16th" brigade (no offense intended) . Its only 2 weeks away , its right after Christmas and on New Years Eve for heavens sake.

Lets just drive home and get our spambots oiled up and set them loose with the message of getting as close to ,or beating, Romneys 2007 GOP quarter record.

Obviously this is just my opinion/advise .

NerveShocker
12-17-2007, 01:18 AM
We definitely have to keep the money flowing.. whether or not we do another money bomb I'm not sure. I think though that tomorrow we should try to get a good amount of donations in to top off our money bomb. The same happened after Nov. 5th and we should try to make it larger this time. I think the main reason it happens is some people forget about the date but this time there is another reason. At 11:30 approximately Ronpaul2008.com crashed due to having more donors per minute than EVER before (even more than the start of the money bomb). It was down about 40 minutes and didn't come up until way after 12. I think many of those last minute donors that the chart showed donating late were unable to donate since the site crashed due to massive traffic. I could not load it at all. Many likely went to sleep (Work tomorrow) and will plan to donate tomorrow instead in hope it will be running then. In other words I think because of the crash there is a significant amount of people who are yet to donate. Tomorrow we should attempt to make a big day as well if you can spare it and have not maxed out.

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saahmed
12-17-2007, 01:18 AM
We need to focus on getting the vote now. Another small moneybomb on the 31st isnt going to do anything. It will end up being as big as the vets day money bomb and will not get any media attention. Everyone needs to shift their attention to doing whatever they can to get votes for all the early primary/caucus states.