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tsetsefly
12-16-2007, 06:49 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA, this is fantastic, Huckabee's article explaining his foreign policy, published in the CFR website says:

PLEASE SEND THIS TO ALL MEDIA TO RIDICULE THIS IDIOT:


Sun-tzu’s ancient wisdom is relevant today: “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Yet we have not had diplomatic relations with Iran in almost 30 years; the U.S. government usually communicates with the Iranian government through the Swiss embassy in Tehran. When one stops talking to a parent or a friend, differences cannot be resolved and relationships cannot move forward. The same is true for countries. The reestablishment of diplomatic ties will not occur automatically or without the Iranians’ making concessions that serve to create a less hostile relationship…
sun-tzu? more like Michael Corlone

a tool indeed, I guess his campaign really does not have any money, they cant afford a fact checker...

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2007/12/019294.php

tsetsefly
12-16-2007, 06:55 PM
bump, too funny

Daveforliberty
12-16-2007, 06:56 PM
The CFR made Huckabee an offer he couldn't refuse!

mavtek
12-16-2007, 07:07 PM
:)
Is that really true? Hilarious!

Joey Wahoo
12-16-2007, 07:09 PM
:)
Is that really true? Hilarious!

Its true. I just spent a few minutes researching it.

Hillarious. He's out to prove his foreign policy smarts and he quotes The Godfather as "ancient wisdom from Sun-tzu."

Governor Knuckehead will be steamed that the ghostwriter didn't check his facts.

Willard will probably hold a press conference tomorrow about it.

tsetsefly
12-16-2007, 07:37 PM
haha, and the CFR editor another tool...

Ronin
12-16-2007, 08:16 PM
That's from "The Art of War" by Sun-Tzu

tsetsefly
12-16-2007, 08:18 PM
That's from "The Art of War" by Sun-Tzu

nope... its been fact checked ont he sites/forums that reported this no such mention...

Delain
12-16-2007, 08:19 PM
That's from "The Art of War" by Sun-Tzu

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/36994.html

steph3n
12-16-2007, 08:25 PM
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/36994.html

I have the book at my house and will check it in a few hours.

Ronin
12-16-2007, 08:28 PM
I question that. It must be a pretty big myth if what you say is true. Maybe the dispute is in translation. I think it was first translated to French then to English. Do you have a link. Now you have me curious :)

Sola
12-16-2007, 08:30 PM
I don't know about a horse's head in his bed, but there is at least one horse's ass.

ZenX
12-16-2007, 08:31 PM
知彼知己,百戰不殆;不知彼而知己,一勝一負;不知彼,不知己,每戰必敗
or "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."

Huckabee, however, is quoting The Godfather's adaption of the idea. I'd say it's a misquote.

Thomas Paine
12-16-2007, 08:36 PM
Huckabee's foreign policy article was just littered with contradictions. Here's what Hillary thought about his article...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIoMsqEYyUU

Janet0116
12-16-2007, 08:40 PM
Huckabee is not smart. I'd venture to say he's dumber than Bush (scary thought huh) He's just got the preacher talk down and speaks better than Bush (not a hard task really)

noztnac
12-16-2007, 08:47 PM
Sorry. He's right.

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sun-tzu/

steph3n
12-16-2007, 08:50 PM
Sorry. He's right.

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Sun-tzu/

there are many translations of Sun tzu that one doesn't seem accurate. There were MANY discredited translations

Janet0116
12-16-2007, 08:51 PM
Well, he's still a dumbass :p

Ninja Homer
12-16-2007, 09:03 PM
Huckabee's an idiot. I don't know if anybody has read his article at Foreign Affairs, but I found this pretty scary:

"The Bush administration plans to increase the size of the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps by about 92,000 troops over the next five years. We can and must do this in two to three years. I recognize the challenges of increasing our enlistments without lowering standards and of expanding training facilities and personnel, and that is one of the reasons why we must increase our military budget. Right now, we spend about 3.9 percent of our GDP on defense, compared with about six percent in 1986, under President Ronald Reagan. We need to return to that six percent level. And we must stop using active-duty forces for nation building and return to our policy of using other government agencies to build schools, hospitals, roads, sewage treatment plants, water filtration systems, electrical facilities, and legal and banking systems. We must marshal the goodwill, ingenuity, and power of our governmental and nongovernmental organizations in coordinating and implementing these essential nonmilitary functions."

Read the full article here:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20080101faessay87112-p0/michael-d-huckabee/america-s-priorities-in-the-war-on-terror.html

torchbearer
12-16-2007, 09:08 PM
知彼知己,百戰不殆;不知彼而知己,一勝一負;不知彼,不知己,每戰必敗
or "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle."

Huckabee, however, is quoting The Godfather's adaption of the idea. I'd say it's a misquote.

That is not the same thing at all... Sun Tzu was talking about knowing oneself and knowing your enemy.
If you know yourself, but not your enemy... for every victory you suffer a defeat.
If you know neither yourself, nor your enemy... you will loose every battle.
If you know yourself, and know your enemy... you will not need to fear a thousand battles.



The Godfather was talking about deceiving your enemies by pretending to be their friend so you can know what they are doing...

Those are not the same thing.

torchbearer
12-16-2007, 09:18 PM
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kotetu
12-16-2007, 09:24 PM
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War


Misattributed

* Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
o This has often been attributed to Sun Tzu and sometimes to Niccolò Machiavelli, but there are no published sources yet found which predate its use by "Michael Corleone" in The Godfather Part II (1974), written by Mario Puzo & Francis Ford Coppola: My father taught me many things here — he taught me in this room. He taught me — keep your friends close but your enemies closer.