Do you like comics? Are you artistic?

[mdh]

I propose the creation of a new web comic superhero - "Electron Paul", who fights tyrrany, wasteful spending, and injustice! Unfortunately, I'm not artistic. I can't even make legible ascii are. My stick figures look like they have broken limbs. If you are, and want to make this cool idea a reality, I'll host it. No costs or anything. There are people who really like this kind of stuff, and if we can create something genuinely funny by lampooning Ron Paul's opponents and enemies of freedom world wide, I think it could end up going over really well!
:D

[UtahApocalypse]

It might be doable using some techniques in photoshop to put something together. I dont know that I could take time to do a whole comic. Maybe at least work on a cover tommorow.

[Therion]

I used to draw comics in Photoshop using a tablet. It's not professional-level work, but I think it's passable.

[Therion]

*snip*

[UtahApocalypse]

We should come up with a story board so whoever we get to draw it out has a idea what to work on. I think kind of a david vrs goliath type of thing showing how his grassroots campaign is growing, also highlighting many of the issues.

[mdh]

Those aren't bad at all Therion. I'm more concerned with coherence than anything else. :)

How about some sketches of what you guys think "Electron Paul" the hero would look like, and lets move from there?

[Delivered4000]

Believe it or not I had the very same idea just last night

[Therion]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/FortOven/CD1.png

Very rough sketch. Also I couldn't decide on a logo, so I didn't draw one!

[cujothekitten]

I'm an illustrator and designer but I don't have time to illustrate a comic out. I can color it though if someone wants to do the black and whites.

my stuff:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/dreams0fdali/Eyes.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/dreams0fdali/akasha.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/dreams0fdali/donebush.jpg

this pic is really old... I don't have any of my comic book stuff on this computer anymore... this also hasn't been finished
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/dreams0fdali/bluehairgirl.jpg

[tangent4ronpaul]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaulGraphics/

is an artist pool that was recently created. Go join and ask for help or contribute there.

as to the storyboard thing, that's going to take some different software, but we have computing resources. Lets put that on the backburner, just now and look at it again when we get a bit bigger. We could probably do it in a photobook format on a free site.

-n

[qednick]

I'm an artist and photographer (also used to be a graphic designer) but I'm not much of a comic artist I'm afraid. :(

[mdh]

Believe it or not I had the very same idea just last night

I got the idea from someone on IRC who mis-typed "Elect Ron Paul" as "Electron Paul". Major win.

[mdh]

I really like what we've got so far. As far as an emblem/icon type deal, an electron seems pretty righteous. As far as hosting it, leave that to me. I've got plenty of system resources to spare on my servers, and we can even keep it under the http://www.ronpaul.name/ domain too.

[ratsbew]

I got the idea from someone on IRC who mis-typed "Elect Ron Paul" as "Electron Paul". Major win.
I'm so stupid, I doubt I would have ever noticed if you hadn't pointed that out (I'm being serious). But it is too good to pass up. I would offer my artistic abilities...if I had any, the reactions of my last attempt (http://titanmiller.no-ip.org/Ron-Paul-Vs-Rudy-Giuliani.html) were not that good.

[Therion]

Do you know enough HTML to design a site around a webcomic?

Also, a storyboard isn't necessary, I just need the first part of a script, and then I can get started working on the first page or three, and see how it goes.

[mdh]

I can take care of HTML crud, but again, I'm more technical than artistic. With the centerpiece being the comic itself, nothing special is needed, and I'm sure that once we had two or three comics up and I hyped them out to all of the RP communities I've insinuated myself into, I could find someone good to deal with stuff like site layout and XHTML/CSS design work.

So let's start thinking about scripts - post ideas!

[ratsbew]

Would it be a wise idea to go check around pre-existing Photoshop/Web design message boards and see if there are any Ron Paul supporters who would want to help. This way we would be looking for Ron Paul supporters among artists instead of artists among Ron Paul supporters...Just an Idea and I would be willing to do the scouting.

[mdh]

YES, YES, and YES! This kills two birds with one stone, we're getting the word our about Ron Paul and hyping this project (even to those who lack the resources in time and whatnot to help with this project in particular) and also hopefully garnering some help with this project. There are a lot of talented folks on the amateur art sites.

Thank you very much to everyone who's helping out with this idea!

[ratsbew]

YES, YES, and YES! This kills two birds with one stone, we're getting the word our about Ron Paul and hyping this project (even to those who lack the resources in time and whatnot to help with this project in particular) and also hopefully garnering some help with this project. There are a lot of talented folks on the amateur art sites.

Thank you very much to everyone who's helping out with this idea!

I'll get on it now and will link them directly to this thread. We will worry about artist before web designers.
Too bad the domain electronpaul (http://www.electronpaul.com) is already taken. Maybe we could get electronpaulhero.com

[mdh]

http://ronpaul.name is short and sweet, so I'm kind of liking the idea of just using it (and was so happy when I managed to grab it!)
If at some point we feel that it does need a seperate domain name (perhaps if I want to load balance it across several of my servers if it starts getting a LOT of traffic), I can do some research into what's available and we can discuss it.

[legion]

aaaaaaaaaaa

i thought you were all like liberal and shit, wickedcity :D

[mdh]

i thought you were all like liberal and shit, wickedcity :D

Say what now? Who/what is wickedcity?

[cujothekitten]

i thought you were all like liberal and shit, wickedcity :D

Oh god damn it lol

Who are you?

[cujothekitten]

Say what now? Who/what is wickedcity?

It's my name on other message boards... well some of them anyway

[mdh]

The name legion rings of chan-ness.

[cujothekitten]

The name legion rings of chan-ness.

No this would be someone from Protest Warrior or a few other political message boards.

[legion]

me? im proof of purchase.

i can honestly say im really happy for the first time in a long time because of all this. :o

i dont even care if he comes close to a win, im just glad to see that im not crazy for thinking these ideas have some form of mainstream appeal.

[cujothekitten]

me? im proof of purchase.

i can honestly say im really happy for the first time in a long time because of all this. :o

i dont even care if he comes close to a win, im just glad to see that im not crazy for thinking these ideas have some form of mainstream appeal.

Yeah no kidding! I can't believe all the people that are pulling for him... I even heard socialist is down with Ron Paul. How is that even possible? Either way politics are going to change.

btw, I wasn't a liberal... I was labeled one at PW because I was so socially liberal and anti-war. I've always been pretty libertarian.

[llamabread]

It seems obvious that the villian in the comic would be Rudy McRomney, and his corporate media cronies. But he could also fight Sean Hanity, and pretty much anybody on FOX. You could also make it 1984esk to highlight all of the bias and misrepresentation.

[Therion]

No this would be someone from Protest Warrior or a few other political message boards.

I knew that I'd seen your art before. Where did all the PW people go?

[mdh]

'liberal' and 'conservative' are stupid labels. If you go by the modern definitions, I'm neither. I've tried to hang out with both circles. As long as you're agreeing with them, s'all good - you're a brother. Dissent, however, is not tolerated, not on a single issue. And since I'm pretty close to 30%/30% on liberal/conservative issues (the other 40% of my opinions not qualifying as either), I never kept many friends there!

Anyways, back to this thread's real purpose... any cool ideas for the first 2 or 3 storylines? I definitly want to have Electron Paul battling a spoof-character of ole Rudy very early on.

[legion]

i cant believe that either. he'd be the last person from there i would expect to do that

[Therion]

i cant believe that either. he'd be the last person from there i would expect to do that

Yeah, but what do you know, protest-weenie peon? :)

[MediaTruthNetwork]

If you guys want some good ideas for comics... especially political satire have
a look at www.newstarget.com The guy that runs that site has a regular
comic about the FDA, Corrupt medical establishment and the like.

Might help you kick up some ideas.

- Dave

[legion]

i have a better idea for a cartoon

a 30 second spot showing bush at a podium with a cartoon speach bubble that above him says "EVIL" and an appropriate peanuts "wamp wamp" sound effect, ron paul rapels into the scene and manipulates "I" in that word with a bicycle pump so that the word changes to "EVOL," flips the letters around to be like the backwards "LOVE" on the ron paul revolution signs, then hits an eject button and takes bush's spot at the podium.

the GOP would never let this ad play even if paul was their candidate, but campy is good

[mdh]

i have a better idea for a cartoon

a 30 second spot showing bush at a podium with a cartoon speach bubble that above him says "EVIL" and an appropriate peanuts "wamp wamp" sound effect, ron paul rapels into the scene and manipulates "I" in that word with a bicycle pump so that the word changes to "EVOL," flips the letters around to be like the backwards "LOVE" on the ron paul revolution signs, then hits an eject button and takes bush's spot at the podium.

the GOP would never let this ad play even if paul was their candidate, but campy is good

The idea is cute. :)

We're thinking in terms of a web-comic style right now, not the moving pictures, though. Something easily reproduced in print for The Big Event.

[cujothekitten]

I knew that I'd seen your art before. Where did all the PW people go?

It's super top secret (they'll be very upset if I give out the address) but if you tell me who you are I'll ask if I can tell you.

Some are here though http://www.refugeecamp.us/phpBB2/

[Phil M]

We could have the first comic be a television broadcast of the three-headed monster Rudy McRomney, and the monster is hypnotizing all of the people watching into doing its evil bidding. Then, Electron Paul bursts in and tries to stop it while the Rudy head screams something like, "no... not Electron Paul! That's Absurd!" Then you could work Hannity into it somehow.

[Therion]

It's super top secret (they'll be very upset if I give out the address) but if you tell me who you are I'll ask if I can tell you.

Some are here though http://www.refugeecamp.us/phpBB2/

JoshFurman.

[mdh]

OK, I've got one. Someone go sketch this please - aim for 4 to 10 "boxes". Or provide input and then we'll sketch them. Whatever, either way. :D

1> Electron Paul sitting at a desk, with a big "NO" stamp in business suit, et al. (Normal Ron Paul)
2> A caricature of Dubya makes plans to attack Islamistan (very nefarious looking scheming feel to this/these scene(s)) - maybe something written on the papers like "pork" or something more funny than that.
3> Electron Paul undergoes a transformation and stops our caricature Dubya character by the power of Electrons (lol?)

Second idea
1> Debate scene, Electron Paul in normal business suit/etc.
2> Rudy Gambino (caricature Giuliani character) states that terrorists only hate us for our freedom, and that he's going to end terrorism by putting a stop to freedom
3> Electron Paul transforms, and using the power of the 9/11 commission report, teaches Gambino a lesson!

Tell me what you think guys!

[Teflon Master]

JoshFurman.

You were one of the most underrated posters on PW.

[MediaTruthNetwork]

I wonder if the people behind jib jab or joe cartoon are Paul supporters?

www.jibjab.com

www.joecartoon.com

There's plenty of other top notch flash artists out there and I'm sure
some of them are Paul supporters. Would be cool to get some of
them on board this project.

- Dave

[Therion]

Second idea
1> Debate scene, Electron Paul in normal business suit/etc.
2> Rudy Gambino (caricature Giuliani character) states that terrorists only hate us for our freedom, and that he's going to end terrorism by putting a stop to freedom
3> Electron Paul transforms, and using the power of the 9/11 commission report, teaches Gambino a lesson!

=D


You were one of the most underrated posters on PW.
When I saw you on here before I thought that it must be some other Teflon Master, because the coincidence would be too great. And then there's Proof and Wicked here too. The internet must be shrinking.

or...

Conspiricy!

[Teflon Master]

=D


When I saw you on here before I thought that it must be some other Teflon Master, because the coincidence would be too great. And then there's Proof and Wicked here too. The internet must be shrinking.

or...

Conspiricy!

To quote Ron Paul:

"the freedom message unites us, it doesn't divide us"

however people at pw would like to divide themselves away from me :'(

[cujothekitten]

When I saw you on here before I thought that it must be some other Teflon Master, because the coincidence would be too great. And then there's Proof and Wicked here too. The internet must be shrinking.

or...

Conspiricy!

The interwebz belong to us!

[cujothekitten]

To quote Ron Paul:

"the freedom message unites us, it doesn't divide us"

however people at pw would like to divide themselves away from me :'(

Did rich ban you?

[mdh]

It is a small world after all. The unix/security/geek communities are the same way. I've slept with too many people, though, one day it's gonna catch up to me. I can never run for office, lol.
Anyways, what do you folks think of my comic ideas? Anyone wanna piece together a 4-10 block comic strip? I'd totally love it.
Any luck spreading the good word on amateur art sites? :)

[Therion]

To quote Ron Paul:

"the freedom message unites us, it doesn't divide us"

however people at pw would like to divide themselves away from me :'(
Don't worry, I still love you.


Anyways, what do you folks think of my comic ideas? Anyone wanna piece together a 4-10 block comic strip? I'd totally love it.
The biggest problem with comics is that you can only fit a very small amount of text into each bubble. It's surprising how little fits the first few times you try it. The number of boxes doesn't really matter so much as the number of pages, given that a page would be about 600x800 pixels each. Each page would probably take a week of work.

[Therion]

Or, instead of one main comic, you could have a site where anybody who wants to help Paul's campaign can submit a humorous image or series of them.

[mdh]

One of the things I want is some fun to print & pass out in the real world too, which is a big part of why I want formats that translate well (for example, not video).

[Therion]

One of the things I want is some fun to print & pass out in the real world too, which is a big part of why I want formats that translate well (for example, not video).

Real world, huh? That level of craftsmanship might be beyond me, and probably is. Photoshop gives really fuzzy line quality that takes a long time to neaten up. As an interweb thing that's passable, Toohpaste for Breakfast can get away with 10-second scribbles that a five year old could outperform, but people in real life don't bother with things that aren't quality. =/

You should keep going with that art forum searching idea.

[Therion]

You could try here:

http://forum.deviantart.com/community/politics/

[mdh]

Well, I never said it had to be uber-high-quality. I just want something legible, funny, and that doesn't look so bad that the fugliness detracts from the message, y'know? :)

[mdh]

Update: Therion's working on a sketch. Will let everyone know once we have something up! :)

[mdh]

Another idea: does anyone watch "Saul of the Mole Men" on Adult Swim? I'm thinking "Saul Anuzis, the Mole Man"!

[unconsious767]

Maybe as the comic starts, Electron Paul is giving Congress a civics lesson, before he is called away to do whatever a superhero does.

Possibly an outside shot of the rotunda, then interior: all the seats of the chamber are filled, and Electron is in front of a blackboard with something appropriate scrawled on it.

[Therion]

I'll try to have a draft done by Wednesday and then you all can tell me what you think.

[sidsquidrick]

I know this guy. He does great political cartoons. Check out his web site and maybe email him asking him to help out. I would, but he just did another favor for me and I don't want to press my luck :)
http://home.gci.net/~parsons/
Just click the "designed and maintained" button.


sid

[mdh]

Another idea following Saul Anuzis of the mole men, one for us technical folks, kind of a fun inside joke...

"Hey guys, lets connect all of these Diebold voting machines together with the power of WEP encryption!", and going on to setting up a huge WEP network for voting to cover the whole US. :D

[UtahApocalypse]

Maybe a cartoon with the "hd-dvd" key sequence on it somehow, and the "polititions" talking about how the vote is secure. I know that many techies would catch the reference.

[mdh]

We'd have to redact it though. :D

[p00k13]

Suggestion:

A website devoted to Ron Paul comics. Not just one artist, but a compliation of artist's contributions. I think that there's enough web comics on the Internet to fuel a laaaarge number of these if we start things out ourselves. Get the backbone of web comics in on this, sluggy freelance, penny arcade, megatokyo, vg cats, all the indepedent artists we can find. Not all them will care, of course, but a lot of them sure will.

I myself can draw. I do commissions and have done graphics for the web and local newspapers. I would need someone to write jokes for me. Unfortunately, I am lacking in the poltical humor department. :(

I don't have the time and skill necessary to run a website. I could make comics and throw them at my local papers, but I think an online comic campaign would be a great idea. Comics are easy to understand and cut to the heart of the issues. Look how popular the Daily Show is and all they do is make fun of everything. :) Comics are reusable- I could see them being redistributed on others' sites- in other forms of print media- clothes.

I've seen people at bulletin boards ignore large, bold faced words on a sign, but squince up real close to a tiny cut-out comic from the Sunday paper. This is a great idea.

[mdh]

I'd love nothing more than to see our idea grow into that, p00k13. Therion's working on the first draft of the first idea as we speak. I've put up a couple of ideas since Therion started work, (Saul Anuzis, the mole man - Diebold voting machines - etc). Of course a real easy idea is to just think about real-world situations and poke fun at them - look for quotes from Dr. Paul on the floor of the capital, etc. I'd love to see you make something, email it to me via mdh [at] solitox [dot] net once it's done and I'll get it up. If things get really popular, I'll work on an automated system to people to post stuff (imgboard style or something).

I also ask that you choose a license for the posting and redistribution of your works. Before anything gets posted, the author will need to decide this. I suggest finding one at Creative Commons that suits you.

[Therion]

Page 1 draft! If there's anything wrong with it, I'd rather you tell me now then let it finish without fixing it up.

From how I have it done out on paper it looks to be about 3-4 pages.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/FortOven/freedom-message.png

[mdh]

I like! Keep up the good work, buddy! Oh, one thing - please add a tiny note at the bottom "Fox News is a registered trademark of <whatever murdoch's corp is called>" - News Corp, or something, I think. It's fair use of the trademark, but it needs to be clearly labelled as such.

[UtahApocalypse]

Or just change it to "Faux News" I think that it looks good so far. Keep it up !!

[NewEnd]

If I could get some real good concept art, front, side and 45 degree angle face views, stylized charicatures, I could do some 3d animations.

I think it would be funny as hell to have "electron RonPaul" kicking ass with the constitution.

He could fight Pork Barrel Man, Military Industrial Complex Behemoth, NWO Newb, and his arch nemisis NeoCon Dick... Cheney, that is.

In the middle of one of the battles, he could go deliver a baby.... it'll pop out waving an American flag.

a look at one of my dead projects

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3144/0611300411wj8.jpg

[NewEnd]

Mild mannered Dr. No's freedom senses are tingling!
He enters a voting booth, and emerges.... Electron Paul!!

"Meanwhile, back at the NeoCon Embassy of Empire"

NeoCon Dick (cheney, that is): "that's wight, wascally fowth amendment, I'm gonna buwn you up"

Sets 4th on fire...

4th: Ahhh, help help!

American flag hanging above catches fire too

NeoCon Dick (cheney, that is): Aww, cwap.

starts jumping up and down on the flag to put out the fire, while the fourth screams

4th: who will save me?

Electron Paul bust the door open

Electron Paul: Your days are over, NeoCon Dick!

NeoCon Dick pulls out a shotgun

NeoCon Dick (cheney, that is)*: Dis will be wike shooting quaiw.... uh-huh-huh-huh

*While Firing a shotgun, misses, hit lawyer in the face

evil neocon lawyer minion: Ahhhhh!!!

Electron Paul: By the power voters invested in me... I have the constitution!!

SCHWING!!!!

Sho ryuken?? I imagine like a super 10 amendment attack... street fighter II super alpha version, stops to put out the fire on the fourth while NeoCon Dick (cheney, that is) is in a daze

NeoCon Dick (cheney, that is) in jail

NeoCon Dick (cheney, that is): How did he doo that?

Meanwhile.....

Dr. No: Push Push, there, your child has been born into freedom!

Baby*: Tank you Dr. No!
*waving american flag

Dr. No: Don't thank me, thank Electron Paul and the voters of the United States!

[Therion]

All of the artwork on page 2 is done, now I just have to write the dialouge and make the speech bubbles... which is completely backwards, obviously. It'll be up tomorrow barring unforseen unforunateness.

[austinphish]

Genius. There are so many great ways you can go w/ that character. I swear the genius ratio is going to be extremely high amongst us early Ron Paulians. We are witnessing the beginning of something great. History can be made by us.

The Electronpaul theme is all about coming up with crafty ways to personify the villians that he is attacking. He can untie habeas corpus as a train approaches.

He can fly over and cut AIPAC, Big GOVT, and The Fed, 's strings which were controling a hapless Uncle Sam or a broken Statue of Liberty.

The possibilities are endless.

LLRP

[Texan4Life]

NewEnd wrote:



In the middle of one of the battles, he could go deliver a baby.... it'll pop out waving an American flag.

LMAO!!

-----------

@austinphish:

AWESOME ideas!

[Therion]

The guy who runs http://www.thinkin-lincoln.com/ seems to like Ron Paul. Maybe you could give him a try.

Page 2 is still in post-production. (note to self, never break from the script again.)

[Therion]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/FortOven/freedom-message-2.png

This took a long time.

[Texan4Life]

I like the 3 headed Rudy McRomney monster and their facial expressions... rudy looks arrogant, mccain confused, and romney with a big smile and a sweet hair doo.

LMAO!

Keep up the good work!

[UtahApocalypse]

Woooo !! That's looking so great !

[mdh]

Sweet, thanks for the hard work Therion, and I hope you'll keep up the great work! Another little legalese side-note, you may want to stick a little "Copyright 2007 Your Name" at the bottom, and tell us under what sort of license you provide the artwork. Thanks!

[mdh]

Genius. There are so many great ways you can go w/ that character. I swear the genius ratio is going to be extremely high amongst us early Ron Paulians. We are witnessing the beginning of something great. History can be made by us.

The Electronpaul theme is all about coming up with crafty ways to personify the villians that he is attacking. He can untie habeas corpus as a train approaches.

He can fly over and cut AIPAC, Big GOVT, and The Fed, 's strings which were controling a hapless Uncle Sam or a broken Statue of Liberty.

The possibilities are endless.

LLRP

I unanimously like all of these ideas. And I'm obnoxiously picky in my comedy stylings.

[enan]

I can help out. I'm going to art school in the fall. Uh... can I help anybody? :)

[Therion]

MDH, you're right with your suggestions, and they'll be taken care of by the time you're ready to put them up.

[mdh]

I can help out. I'm going to art school in the fall. Uh... can I help anybody? :)

Sure, just grab one of the ideas for plotlines and work out a rough sketch... we'll provide feedback, rinse, repeat until you're happy enough to call it a finished product!
:)

[Therion]

With the third debate over, I'm thinking about just having a fluid plot that blends one event into the next. So the third page has to either be changed or completely irrelevant. Fortunately only the line art was finished, and some of that can be kept.

[comic_man]

see my comics in my signature...

here's a new one...
http://comiqs.com/comics/FUctIrb3cmc/