Having fun at HucksArmy--they're having wool pulled back

[colecrowe]

Sorry I was informed unregistereds can't read negative press forum. So they are posted below.

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I got an account and kindly informed them of Glen Green. When is this going to blow up anyway? I'm jimeggert:
My mormon family members won't let up...
http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4294


DIGG: http://digg.com/politics/Huckabee_s_cover_up_for_son_s_cruel_deed_reflects_ his_ethics_2
Then they just found this. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Newsweek 12/24: A Son’s Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabe
http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4292

FIRSTREAD: Huckabee DWI Clemency, Donations Raise Questions
http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4285

McLaughlin Report: New Scandal
http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3599
<<<<At the end of tonight's McLaughlin Report, during the short "Predictions" section, the Newsweek editor regular (Eleanor ???) stated a new Huckabee scandal would soon hit. She said it related to his accessing a slush fund from the tobacco settlement funds.
Anybody know anything about this?>>>>

<<<<<<<yeah, here is the smear. Respond, cancel, write their advertisers.

Huckabee Faces Old Queries in New Spotlight
By LESLIE WAYNE
Published: December 15, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/15/us/po ... yt&emc=rss

In an e-mail message on Friday, the Huckabee campaign described Action America as a “nonprofit set up to promote conservative ideas and policies” and reiterated Mr. Huckabee’s assertion that he did not know tobacco money was behind the group.

But Mr. Vigneault said Mr. Huckabee “absolutely” knew of the Reynolds connection. Mr. Huckabee not only knew that Mr. Vigneault and Mr. Graves were Reynolds lobbyists, Mr. Vigneault said, but he also met Reynolds executives in his apartment in Little Rock.>>>>>>>>

[bbachtung]

Since they require registration in order to access the bad media portion of their forums, could you please tell us what the general consensus is for the latest scandals over there?

[colecrowe]

Since they require registration in order to access the bad media portion of their forums, could you please tell us what the general consensus is for the latest scandals over there?

Utter denial--like 1 out of 20 are worried in the least. They really worship him

[colecrowe]

My mormon family members won't let up...
http://www.forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4294 Page 1 of 2
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:06 pm ]
Post subject: My mormon family members won't let up...
The Glen Green issue has been already been addressed by the Huckabee campaign http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction ... cle&ID=131

Huckabee and criminals: It's worse than just Wayne DuMond
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/20 ... ex_np.html
The former governor's feckless, faith-based clemency policies in Arkansas continued for years after the convicted rapist was released.

Quote:
Truth Squad: Response To The Drudge Report
Team Huckabee
December 10, 2007
On December 10, the Drudge Report linked to an article in The Arkansas Leader titled, "Why parole a monster like Green." Drudge links to the article as if it were a new story rather than an editorial 2004.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/huckabee5.html

The editorial by Gary Feldman fails to mention:

--The Governor does not have the power to parole any prisoner. That responsibility lies with the parole board.
--The only action that Governor Huckabee took was to file a notice of intent to commute Glen Green's sentence.
--The commutation would have reduced Green's sentence to 181 years, 10 months, and 19 days.
--After the 30-day public hearing period ended, Governor Huckabee decided against commuting Green's sentence.

Yeah-this whole page seems like a hit piece from the Clinton Machine. All it is is anti-Huckabee lies with an obvious agenda, and absolutely no journalistic integrity--I bet 99% of it was made up out of thin air--just like everything the liberals always say about bush--but then can never prove.... But even with lies like this, he was reelected every time! He is the only one who can beat Hillary--because HE'S DONE IT BEFORE--again and again. We need to respond to these smears. The only thing required for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing. First thing, anyone who gets this paper or any paper from this company or its parent company send a cancellation notice and tell them why. Then start sending letters to their advertisers. I need your help responding to this crumby stuff.... These are all linked on the one page--I wonder if this paper is being paid off by the Ron Paul campaign--he already has paid other people from Arkansas to go to Iowa and tell lies about Huckabee, I wonder if this is related? I bet it is. Have you noticed that Huckabee IS THE ONLY ONE who has never gotten negative. That is because he has the strongest message--and he can rest on the truth. It's inspiring.

Huckabee's dubious achievement
Governor sets record for clemencies
____Gov. Huckabee is on a roll: He has freed more convicts than all of his recent predecessors combined – more than 10 times as many as Gov. Clinton during a 10-year period from 1983 to 1992.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_14_04/huckabee4.html

Arkansas clemencies outpace other states
___If you're wondering how Gov. Huckabee's hundreds of clemencies compare with neighboring states, get ready for a shocker. Huckabee leads the pack.
He has issued more commutations and pardons than all of the six neighboring states combined.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstor ... abee8.html

Governor goes own way on pardons
___Prosecutors across Arkansas have had their differences with Gov. Huckabee's generous pardons policy, but what bothers them the most is Huckabee's superior attitude when they dare to object.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_07_04/huckabee3.html

Prosecutors seek more openness on pardons
___When you talk to prosecutors around the state, many of them will tell you they're unhappy that Gov. Huckabee pardons criminals without letting law-enforcement officials or victims' families know why he's doing it, as he's required by law.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_06_30_04/huckabee2.html

Huckabee, prosecutors go on offensive
___They trade jabs over sentencing, pardoning of killers, other thugs...
Several prosecutors around the state are upset with Gov. Huckabee for grant- ing clemency to violent criminals, but he is blaming the prosecutors for often not seeking the maximum penalty and keeping felons locked up longer.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_06_23_04/huckabee.html

Kin against clemency
By JOHN HOFHEIMER - Leader staff writer
>>> IN SHORT>>> Helen Spencer was killed 30 years ago. Her family doesn't want the governor to free her killer, while area prosecutors propose more accountability from the governor in the commutation process.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/kin.html

Former cop rips pardon
By JOHN HOFHEIMER
AND RICK KRON
Leader staff writers
>>> IN SHORT>>> However Helen Spencer died, her murderer should spend the rest of his life in prison for his brutal acts.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/clemency.html


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I am voting for Mike Huckabee on almost a single issue: faith. I mean, the biggest thing is abortion, but that is only a byproduct of the fact that our nation has completely rejected God and morality, outlawed the word of God completely from the public realm (thanks to the ACLU), and made our schools places to indoctrinate the populace with secular humanism. So a humble, righteous, man of God, who has 100 times more knowledge of the Bible than any other candidate (probably 1000 times more than any democratic candidate) is the only chance to deliver our nation from the disgusting, blasphemous path it is headed on. (And it's all from the lie of "separation of church and state" WHICH ISN'T EVEN IN THE CONSTITUTION!) Imagine if we REALLY had separation of church and state--I guess murder would be legal, because that is based on the Sixth Commandment! And stealing, and rape. Laura Ingraham proved this point perfectly when she was talking to the founder of the group "Freedom from religion" (that wants to outlaw Christmas--I'm telling you, the persecution of Christians, in what is supposed to be a Christian nation, is getting more horrible every day--all you hear on O'Reilly anymore is how everything to do with Christianity is being outlawed, but our children are forced to celebrate Earth Day, or Wicca, or Muslim Ramadan in the schools (our enemy's religion!). So why doesn't our government step in to protect our rights and our heritage--It is because none of our leaders are Christians. They are lawyers, or doctors, or businessmen--but NO PASTORS OR THEOLOGIANS OR MINISTERS! That is why we need Mike Huckabee!

[LOL]

My youth pastor has set us all on fire for Mr. Huckabee. The grassroots is where this campaign is different from anything that has ever happened--no other candidate has people EXCITED about their man like ours does--WE TRULY CARE. No other candidate has thousands of real people, not organized by the Campaign, making signs and spreading the word on their own--because they are all politics as usual, and their guy only cares about corporations and big business. Our man cares about everybody--and believes in equality. The one thing that they can dig up about Huckabee is his Compassion--they attack him for wanting to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Jesus wanted us to give up everything for the least among us--and the other candidates who call themselves Christians attack Huckabee for doing the Christian thing by treating the CHILDREN of illegal immigrants with respect and compassion! Despicable. No wonder so many people have a bad view of the Republican Party. Mike Huckabee won't just save our country, he will save the Republican party and return it to its true roots! Every single one of the other candidates has tens of millions of dollars--and they are only falling in the polls. Our grassroots is more than mere canvassing--the power of prayer has made all the difference and the proof is in the polls and the amazement of all the media. They don't get it and they won't get it--because they do not believe. We have a 24 hour prayer room, and we take turns to sign up and make sure someone is always there. Oh, I could go on forever.

But what I meant to ask about, maybe ask for prayer and advice about, is related to my Mormon family members. They are all for Romney of course, without even looking into it at all--just because their church says so. And I don't really have anything against a Mormon president, necessarily--but I do worry that if we had a Mormon for President, then a lot of people would be curious about Mormonism and many more people would become Mormons--and I say this because I have seen some of my friends whose bosses or teachers were Mormons, and they looked up to them because they were successful and very nice, and they fell into the trap. So I worry about that.

But my aunt Hollaye, who I have been staying with for the last week, won't stop attacking Huckabee. You should see the horrible trash the churches (and their "institute") are giving out and emailing about him--just so they don't lose any votes for Romney I guess--TALK ABOUT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! How do they get away with that?! I have been able to counteract everything she shows me because of the truth squad, but the one (actually she gave me two--but the DWI one is so silly I didn't even give it a second thought: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/ ... 19110.aspx )

But I need info about the Glen Green thing? Can anyone help me. I have been emailing the mailing list in her church back with the truth, so if you guys want the email list I can give you that.

Thank you so much
Jim Eggert
Author: AdamZC [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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I know you said a lot in your post jim, but if the church is sending out material against huckabee...that could be pretty damaging to romney...

but the fact is when people have made up their mind, especially with such a strong tie as religion, there is little you can do to change it. just love them and give them the best answer you can each time something comes up.

blessings,
adamzc
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:12 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
Well this is the temple.
http://www.lds.org/institutes/home/0,84 ... 47,00.html
Author: AdamZC [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:15 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
jimeggert wrote:
Well this is the temple.
http://www.lds.org/institutes/home/0,84 ... 47,00.html

What is the Glen Green thing, I haven't heard about that. What do the emails suggest?
Author: justatron [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:15 pm ]
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Wow...I had no idea that the LDS church was sending out anti-Huck stuff? Is that your family's local church or the organization as a whole? Imagine the uproar if this situation were reversed?

My advice to you is this...your family is your family...better or worse, that is more important than your politics. I have learned that I just don't bring it up with some family members, not even to try to defend my own candidate of choice. You will just end up getting both sides angry and frustrated. We aren't going to see Huckabee elected with 100% of the vote. Some people are just not going to vote for him no matter what. It is better to maintain the relationship with the family than to ruin the holidays over this.

Just my $0.02... :)
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:16 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
AdamZC wrote:
I know you said a lot in your post jim, but if the church is sending out material against huckabee...that could be pretty damaging to romney...

but the fact is when people have made up their mind, especially with such a strong tie as religion, there is little you can do to change it. just love them and give them the best answer you can each time something comes up.

blessings,
adamzc



But they don't just keep it to themselves. The LDS is huge in this part of Minnesota. The Glen Green thing is going to be treated just like the Wayne Dumond lies by the editors and pastors around here who are for somebody other than MH (very few, but still...). I want to be able to give them the truth. So I just wish it was on Truth Squad. Then I could take care of it in a second. I just hate letting them lie and get away with it. That is what is so great about our man--he is humble and always tells the truth--and besides he has nothing to hide. That's why he always goes right on the air, to every show, and talks about it honestly. He is the only one, with the exception of McCain, who just looks perfectly honest. All the others look sleazy, slimy, and slick--and never answer a question directly. What does that tell you?
Author: AdamZC [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:20 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
jimeggert wrote:
AdamZC wrote:
I know you said a lot in your post jim, but if the church is sending out material against huckabee...that could be pretty damaging to romney...

but the fact is when people have made up their mind, especially with such a strong tie as religion, there is little you can do to change it. just love them and give them the best answer you can each time something comes up.

blessings,
adamzc



But they don't just keep it to themselves. The LDS is huge in this part of Minnesota. The Glen Green thing is going to be treated just like the Wayne Dumond thing by the editors and pastors around here (very few, but still...) who are for somebody other than MH. I want to be able to give them the truth. So I just wish it was on Truth Squad. Then I could take care of it in a second. I just hate letting them lie and get away with it.


Wow. I'll research it, this is the first I've heard of Glen Green.

Emails from the LDS about Mike Huckabee is a HUGE deal.

Imagine if the Southern Baptist Convention sent out emails about Mitt Romney. The media would eat that for days.
Author: justatron [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:25 pm ]
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AdamZC wrote:
jimeggert wrote:
AdamZC wrote:
I know you said a lot in your post jim, but if the church is sending out material against huckabee...that could be pretty damaging to romney...

but the fact is when people have made up their mind, especially with such a strong tie as religion, there is little you can do to change it. just love them and give them the best answer you can each time something comes up.

blessings,
adamzc



But they don't just keep it to themselves. The LDS is huge in this part of Minnesota. The Glen Green thing is going to be treated just like the Wayne Dumond thing by the editors and pastors around here (very few, but still...) who are for somebody other than MH. I want to be able to give them the truth. So I just wish it was on Truth Squad. Then I could take care of it in a second. I just hate letting them lie and get away with it.


Wow. I'll research it, this is the first I've heard of Glen Green.

Emails from the LDS about Mike Huckabee is a HUGE deal.

Imagine if the Southern Baptist Convention sent out emails about Mitt Romney. The media would eat that for days.


Yeah...especially if the emails were explicit about who to vote for...I grew up in independent Baptist churches, and I remember getting flyers from pro-life organizations the Sunday before the election. It was always a list of issues with each candidate's photo and a check as to whether they were for or against the issue...of course, the issues were things like abortion, military spending, gun rights, gays in the military, etc...so all the yes check would be under the Democrat's name. That was kind of pushing the envelope, IMO, but it was done.

I never remember a pastor explicitly telling us to vote for a candidate, although in 1992 my pastor did make a Bill Clinton comment which ticked off some yellow dog Democrats in the congregation...

And I ask too...who/what is the Glen Green situation?
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:27 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
Here's the hit piece: http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstor ... abee5.html

How hard is it to see that THESE ARE LIES FROM THE CLINTON MACHINE! How have we all forgotten the 90s and the worst president we have ever had?
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:27 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
In 2000 and 2004 our pastor endorsed President Bush--he even gave the opening prayer for his speech here in 2004.
Author: justinok [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:28 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
The Glen Green issue has been already been addressed by the Huckabee campaign
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction ... cle&ID=131

Quote:
Truth Squad: Response To The Drudge Report
Team Huckabee
December 10, 2007
On December 10, the Drudge Report linked to an article in The Arkansas Leader titled, "Why parole a monster like Green." Drudge links to the article as if it were a new story rather than an editorial 2004.

The editorial by Gary Feldman fails to mention:

--The Governor does not have the power to parole any prisoner. That responsibility lies with the parole board.

--The only action that Governor Huckabee took was to file a notice of intent to commute Glen Green's sentence.

--The commutation would have reduced Green's sentence to 181 years, 10 months, and 19 days.

--After the 30-day public hearing period ended, Governor Huckabee decided against commuting Green's sentence.
Author: justatron [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:30 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
jimeggert wrote:
Here's the hit piece: http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstor ... abee5.html

How hard is it to see that THESE ARE LIES FROM THE CLINTON MACHINE! How have we all forgotten the 90s and the worst president we have ever had?


Sounds like more sour grapes from an old Arkansan who didn't like Huckabee upsetting the apple cart in Little Rock. I mean, apparently according to the article, the paper published gruesome photos of the victim on their front page...and yet he claims Huckabee had no concern for the feelings of the victim's family??? I'd say more, but this is a family board... :x

EDIT: justinok...oh, that's right! I read that Truth Squad article! I hadn't heard the criticism yet and it did not register...I reiterate...sour grapes...
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:35 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
Awesome! That is just what I needed. Why does it say Drudge? That is why I couldn't find it--and it just said Green--not Glen Green. Weird.
Author: justinok [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:36 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
Drudge report posted this news story on his website. So the truth squad responded to Drudge report and Arkansas Leader. I'm moving this topic to the Negative articles section.

jimeggert wrote:
Awesome! That is just what I needed. Why does it say Drudge? That is why I couldn't find it--and it just said Green--not Glen Green. Weird.
Author: AdamZC [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:49 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
Anyone think there's anything to pursue here with the LDS sending emails to its members against huckabee?
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[colecrowe]

My mormon family members won't let up...
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Author: McFox [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:55 pm ]
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I wouldn't think we could pursue anything, unless we could get our hands on one of those emails.
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:04 pm ]
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Yeah-this whole page seems like a hit piece from the Clinton Machine. All it is is anti-Huckabee lies with an obvious agenda, and absolutely no journalistic integrity--I bet 99% of it was made up out of thin air--just like everything the liberals always say about bush--but then can never prove.... But even with lies like this, he was reelected every time! He is the only one who can beat Hillary--because HE'S DONE IT BEFORE--again and again. We need to respond to these smears. The only thing required for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing. First thing, anyone who gets this paper or any paper from this company or its parent company send a cancellation notice and tell them why. Then start sending letters to their advertisers. I need your help responding to this crumby stuff.... These are all linked on the one page--I wonder if this paper is being paid off by the Ron Paul campaign--he already has paid other people from Arkansas to go to Iowa and tell lies about Huckabee, I wonder if this is related? I bet it is. Have you noticed that Huckabee IS THE ONLY ONE who has never gotten negative. That is because he has the strongest message--and he can rest on the truth. It's inspiring.

Huckabee's dubious achievement
Governor sets record for clemencies
____Gov. Huckabee is on a roll: He has freed more convicts than all of his recent predecessors combined – more than 10 times as many as Gov. Clinton during a 10-year period from 1983 to 1992.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_14_04/huckabee4.html

Arkansas clemencies outpace other states
___If you're wondering how Gov. Huckabee's hundreds of clemencies compare with neighboring states, get ready for a shocker.
Huckabee leads the pack.
He has issued more commutations and pardons than all of the six neighboring states combined.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstor ... abee8.html

Governor goes own way on pardons
___Prosecutors across Arkansas have had their differences with Gov. Huckabee's generous pardons policy, but what bothers them the most is Huckabee's superior attitude when they dare to object.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_07_04/huckabee3.html

Prosecutors seek more openness on pardons
___When you talk to prosecutors around the state, many of them will tell you they're unhappy that Gov. Huckabee pardons criminals without letting law-enforcement officials or victims' families know why he's doing it, as he's required by law.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_06_30_04/huckabee2.html

Huckabee, prosecutors go on offensive
___They trade jabs over sentencing, pardoning of killers, other thugs...
Several prosecutors around the state are upset with Gov. Huckabee for grant- ing clemency to violent criminals, but he is blaming the prosecutors for often not seeking the maximum penalty and keeping felons locked up longer.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_06_23_04/huckabee.html

Kin against clemency
By JOHN HOFHEIMER - Leader staff writer
>>> IN SHORT>>> Helen Spencer was killed 30 years ago. Her family doesn't want the governor to free her killer, while area prosecutors propose more accountability from the governor in the commutation process.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/kin.html

Former cop rips pardon
By JOHN HOFHEIMER
AND RICK KRON
Leader staff writers
>>> IN SHORT>>> However Helen Spencer died, her murderer should spend the rest of his life in prison for his brutal acts.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/clemency.html
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:10 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
McFox wrote:
I wouldn't think we could pursue anything, unless we could get our hands on one of those emails.



I use my aunt's charter account to send the response emails--and of course she lets me read them on her account, too. She actually has said she is worried about the church getting in trouble--but EVERYONE ELSE in the church thinks that is the silliest notion they've ever heard. So I could post all the emails. But every LDS church has always done this. Like someone else said, especially before elections. They are extremely powerful. They are like a huge profitable business in a lot of ways--I don't know how they keep their tax-exempt non-profit status--cus they own Zions Bank, Pepsi, and Casinos, etc, etc. I mean Romney is worth 250,000,000. That's a quarter of a billion dollars! They're just like the Catholics used to be before Martin Luther. So i don't think they worry about election rules.
Author: McFox [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:22 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
If you could post some of them that would be great.
Author: AdamZC [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:32 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
McFox wrote:
If you could post some of them that would be great.

Especially with the recent push poll accusations McCain has called out, this could be a story.
Author: christopher.wilkerson [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:34 pm ]
Post subject: Re: My mormon family members won't let up...
Even if there was some proof of wrong-doing, we would have to forward it to a favorable news outlet to get any attention payed to it. But would that go against Gov. Huckabee's rule of not knee-capping opponents? And if something like this did come out, wouldn't there be increased scrutiny of Baptist organizations? Would we be opening Pandora's Box?

BTW, is there any 'Mormons for Huckabee' group? If there is, we need to get them front and center, and dispel any notion of bigotry.
Author: McFox [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:49 pm ]
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Our job here in Hucks army is not hinder but to help Governor Huckabee, I never had any notion of sending these emails to a media outlet. I think the appropriate thing for us to do would be to forward the email along with our concerns to the Governor and his staff. I believe they could handle it better than we ever could, but first we still need to know what we are dealing with.
Author: AdamZC [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:50 pm ]
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McFox wrote:
Our job here in Hucks army is not hinder but to help Governor Huckabee, I never had any notion of sending these emails to a media outlet. I think the appropriate thing for us to do would be to forward the email along with our concerns to the Governor and his staff. I believe they could handle it better than we ever could, but first we still need to know what we are dealing with.

If this is going on we must make sure they know about it and forwarding it to them is the right thing to do.
Author: jimeggert [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:54 pm ]
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Just to be totally kosher about it, I'll wait until my Aunt wakes up in the morning and then I'll get her permission. So it shouldn't be long.
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[colecrowe]

Newsweek 12/24: A Son’s Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabe
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Author: EdF [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:14 pm ]
Post subject: Newsweek 12/24: A Son’s Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabe
As Mike Huckabee gains in the polls, the former Arkansas governor is finding that his record in office is getting more scrutiny. One issue likely to get attention is his handling of a sensitive family matter: allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998. The incident led to the dismissal of David Huckabee, then 17, from his job as a counselor at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, Ark. It also prompted the local prosecuting attorney— bombarded with complaints generated by a national animal-rights group—to write a letter to the Arkansas state police seeking help investigating whether David and another teenager had violated state animal-cruelty laws. The state police never granted the request, and no charges were ever filed. But John Bailey, then the director of Arkansas's state police, tells NEWSWEEK that Governor Huckabee's chief of staff and personal lawyer both leaned on him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request. Bailey, a career officer who had been appointed chief by Huckabee's Democratic predecessor, said he viewed the lawyer's intervention as improper and terminated the conversation. Seven months later, he was called into Huckabee's office and fired. "I've lost confidence in your ability to do your job," Bailey says Huckabee told him. One reason Huckabee cited was "I couldn't get you to help me with my son when I had that problem," according to Bailey. "Without question, [Huckabee] was making a conscious attempt to keep the state police from investigating his son," says I. C. Smith, the former FBI chief in Little Rock, who worked closely with Bailey and called him a "courageous" and "very solid" professional.

Huckabee called Bailey's account "totally untrue" and described him as a "bitter" exemployee. "I asked him to resign because he had so alienated the entire state police," he said. "It had nothing to do with my son." Brenda Turner, Huckabee's then chief of staff, and Kevin Crass, the Huckabee family lawyer, also disputed Bailey's account, although both acknowledged talking to him about the dog killing. "I asked him, 'Is it normal for the state police to … investigate something that happened at a Boy Scout camp?' " Turner says. "We wanted the same treatment that anybody else would get." (Animal cruelty in Arkansas is a misdemeanor, not a felony.)

The details of the incident remain murky. The Animal Legal Defense Fund got an anonymous fax that summer alleging that David Huckabee and another youth had been involved in the hanging of a stray dog at the camp on July 11. A local animal-rights activist, Joyce Hillard, later contacted the camp director. Notes of Hillard's report to the defense fund read, "Boys confessed & were fired. Dir. is making excuses, saying dog was sic & boys were putting him out of his misery." (The director told NEWSWEEK only that a stray dog was "put down" and that the counselors were fired for violating the Scout credo to be "kind.") The father of the other counselor was quoted by the Arkansas Democrat Gazette in August 1998 as saying that his son found the dog "hung over a limb and choking." David Huckabee did not respond to requests for comment. (In April of this year, he was arrested—and paid a fine—when he forgot to remove a loaded gun from his carry-on luggage at Little Rock airport.) His father told NEWSWEEK THAT his son did not engage in "intentional torture." "There was a dog that apparently had mange and was absolutely, I guess, emaciated." A campaign official says David "regrets" the incident and notes that he later made Eagle Scout.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241
Author: justatron [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:31 pm ]
Post subject: Re: Newsweek 12/24: A Son’s Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabe
Wow...really stretching for material now, huh Newsweek? It has to be frustrating to be trying to dig up some good dirt on Huckabee and this is the best they can do?
Author: jdbrown [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:38 pm ]
Post subject: Re: Newsweek 12/24: A Son’s Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabe
Are they doing this thorough of an anal exam on all the other candidates?
Author: ptstyls [ Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:35 pm ]
Post subject: Re: Newsweek 12/24: A Son’s Past Deeds Come Back To Bite Huckabe
Yeah a few weeks ago someone told me this would be the next big attack on Huckabee, and if stuff like this picks up traction, it's going to be hard on Huckabee personally, because he really loves his family. Hopefully rival campaigns know better than to use stuff like thus against Huckabee.
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Can you believe that this "clears up the issue"???....

The Glen Green issue has been already been addressed by the Huckabee campaign http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction ... cle&ID=131

Huckabee and criminals: It's worse than just Wayne DuMond
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/20 ... ex_np.html
The former governor's feckless, faith-based clemency policies in Arkansas continued for years after the convicted rapist was released.

Quote:
Truth Squad: Response To The Drudge Report
Team Huckabee
December 10, 2007
On December 10, the Drudge Report linked to an article in The Arkansas Leader titled, "Why parole a monster like Green." Drudge links to the article as if it were a new story rather than an editorial 2004.

http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_07_21_04/huckabee5.html

The editorial by Gary Feldman fails to mention:

--The Governor does not have the power to parole any prisoner. That responsibility lies with the parole board.
--The only action that Governor Huckabee took was to file a notice of intent to commute Glen Green's sentence.
--The commutation would have reduced Green's sentence to 181 years, 10 months, and 19 days.
--After the 30-day public hearing period ended, Governor Huckabee decided against commuting Green's sentence.

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