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Anti Federalist
08-01-2020, 12:10 PM
Poll: 9 of 10 Americans Wearing Masks in Public

https://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/08/01/poll-9-10-americans-wearing-masks-public/

Hannah Bleau 1 Aug 2020

The vast majority of Americans say they either “always” or “sometimes” wear a mask in public, a Morning Consult survey released this week revealed.

The survey, taken July 23-26 among 2,200 U.S. adults, showed that 95 percent have worn masks in public, such as a grocery store, “to some extent” in the last month.

Of those, 79 percent indicated that they “always” wear a mask, and 16 percent said they “sometimes” wear a mask. Mask-wearing has increased significantly in the last three months; in April, only 50 percent of adults indicated they were “always” or “sometimes” wearing a mask.

The current number of those who have indicated they are wearing masks remains relatively consistent across party lines: 98 percent of Democrats, 95 percent of independents, and 93 percent of Republicans.

Morning Consult reports:

The June and July numbers show a significant increase in mask use since the earlier days of the coronavirus pandemic: In an April 7-9 survey, half of adults said they were using masks to some extent in the past month, with 26 percent saying they always wore them in public. The lower rate of face mask usage at the time can be attributed partly to the lack of mandates, supply shortages and guidance from U.S. and global health officials that stated masks should be reserved for health care workers and those infected with COVID-19.



As the coronavirus case count has increased in recent weeks, so has the number of states and businesses that have issued rules to make wearing face masks mandatory. Over half of U.S. states now have some form of a face-mask mandate in place, and businesses of all sizes — from mom-and-pop stores to Walmart Inc. and Target Inc. — are requiring customers to don face coverings in their buildings. And although he stopped short of issuing a federal mandate, President Donald Trump recently recommended that Americans wear face masks in public, despite his own resistance to using them publicly during the first few months of the pandemic.

While several businesses have indicated they will not enforce the mask orders in order to avoid conflict with customers, McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski stated this week that employees may call police on customers who refuse to abide by the company’s mask mandate.

“We’re spending a lot of time right now in our restaurants making sure we can keep our crews safe, making sure we can keep our customers safe,” he told CBS This Morning.

“We’ve for quite some time required our crew to wear masks, but we thought that in light of what we’re seeing, it’s prudent now that we also ask our customers to wear masks in the restaurant as well,” he continued.

“If someone is unwilling to wear a mask and comply with our rules, that might be where we might bring in law enforcement,” he added.

Occam's Banana
08-01-2020, 12:20 PM
“We’re spending a lot of time right now in our restaurants making sure we can keep our crews safe, making sure we can keep our customers safe,” [McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski] told CBS This Morning.

“We’ve for quite some time required our crew to wear masks, but we thought that in light of what we’re seeing, it’s prudent now that we also ask our customers to wear masks in the restaurant as well,” he continued.

“If someone is unwilling to wear a mask and comply with our rules, that might be where we might bring in law enforcement,” he added.


Rest assured, there may not be a cop around to respond to rioters burning your shit down or raping your daughter...but there will be plenty around to thump your head and take you to prison for violating the face diaper fatwa.

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Anti Federalist
08-01-2020, 12:21 PM
And, like TSA, this will never go away.

When Biden's and Bernie's Bolsheviks come to power in the fall, this will be mandated forever...

Welcome to the new normal AmeriKunts.

Occam's Banana
08-01-2020, 01:00 PM
And, like TSA, this will never go away.

When Biden's and Bernie's Bolsheviks come to power in the fall, this will be mandated forever...

Welcome to the new normal AmeriKunts.

Robert Higgs' "ratchet effect" redux ...

Coronacrisis and Leviathan
Peter G. Klein (13 March 2020)
https://mises.org/power-market/coronacrisis-and-leviathan

In his magisterial Crisis and Leviathan (https://www.independent.org/store/book.asp?id=101), Robert Higgs (https://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=489) shows that the growth of government in the twentieth century can largely be explained by patterns of crisis and response. These crises can be real (World Wars I and II, the Great Depression, stagflation) or imagined (inequality, the various isms). In either case new government programs, agencies, and policies are established, purportedly as temporary responses to the perceived emergency. But, as Higgs shows with rich historical detail, most of the temporary measures become permanent - either explicitly or in a revised form based on the original.

[...]

How will leviathan expand - temporarily and then permanently via the ratchet effect - in response to COVID-19? It’s too early to make any definite predictions, but we can make educated guesses based on experience and our knowledge of how governments work.

First, we can expect that government controls on travel and assembly will tighten. Whether via legislative approval, unilateral executive action, or judicial decree, the principle that governments must control movement and gatherings of people to prevent the spread of disease has been clearly established (or reestablished). As we know from Higgs’s work, the additional capabilities in this area acquired by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other agencies will likely be retained and put to use long after the crisis has abated. And further government intervention in the biomedical and healthcare sectors is virtually guaranteed.

The second likely long-term effect is ideological. Already we’re seeing the meme that the crisis has been caused (or at least exacerbated) by “neoliberalism”—that thanks to pervasive (?) libertarian ideology public health agencies were “hollowed out” and thus unable to respond in force:


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https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1236728237285228544

Of course, we know that in the US the CDC initially prevented private labs from testing or developing new tests without FDA approval. More generally, public (and private) health in the US, as in most countries, operates within a tangled web of federal, state, and local regulations, subsidies, restrictions, and other controls.

It is impossible to know how a free market medical system would handle something like corona. But we will be told that there are no free market enthusiasts during a pandemic (and that, at best, those of us who favor property rights, markets, and prices should embrace “state capacity libertarianism (https://mises.org/power-market/pretense-intuition)”). The case for markets will have to be made, as Mises would say, ever more boldly.

AngryCanadian
08-01-2020, 01:04 PM
And, like TSA, this will never go away.

When Biden's and Bernie's Bolsheviks come to power in the fall, this will be mandated forever...

Welcome to the new normal AmeriKunts.

Lets hope that they dont come to power.

Origanalist
08-01-2020, 01:16 PM
Just ordered my groceries delivered, last time I went in Fred Meyer a couple days back two young male employees came up at the entrance and said I need to wear a mask and they had one for me if I didn't have one. I got right in their face and said are you going to require me to put on on? I have a medical condition.

They backed off mumbling something or other. I feel like I'm living in the damn twilight zone.

Origanalist
08-01-2020, 01:29 PM
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Origanalist
08-01-2020, 01:49 PM
Why the hell aren't we seeing this here?
https://www.infowars.com/watch-thousands-take-to-berlin-streets-in-day-of-freedom-protest-against-coronavirus-restrictions/

Origanalist
08-01-2020, 02:01 PM
https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/1136373806934835200/xlarge/

Anti Globalist
08-01-2020, 02:22 PM
Shout out to the 5% that refuse to put one on. They're the real heroes that we deserve. I'd give them all a medal of honor.

shakey1
08-01-2020, 02:34 PM
Just two more weeks. :confused:

Swordsmyth
08-01-2020, 06:14 PM
Polls.:rolleyes:

Swordsmyth
08-01-2020, 06:16 PM
Lets hope that they dont come to power.

https://twitter.com/FloridaDude297/status/1288525606402097152
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https://twitter.com/FloridaDude297/status/1288527537098952704
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dannno
08-01-2020, 06:39 PM
https://twitter.com/FloridaDude297/status/1288525606402097152
(https://twitter.com/FloridaDude297/status/1288525606402097152)1288525606402097152

https://twitter.com/FloridaDude297/status/1288527537098952704
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Sounds about right.

enhanced_deficit
08-01-2020, 07:07 PM
When Biden's and Bernie's Bolsheviks come to power in the fall, this will be mandated forever...

Welcome to the new normal AmeriKunts.


Patriotism is really really catching on if 95% number is accurate, though bit surprising.
But what more Biden's progressive socialism can offer to put Safety First/Families First that current MAGA leadership is not already offering with much greater speed and efficiency. Hard to see any scenario where Biden could be more Patriotic than Trump.


UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-07-23/AGAIN-netizens-ridicule-Trump-s-patriotic-China-virus-tweet-SlTAbTLhAI/img/3a4bd342c4a243beb4ea6b04e2f8ef3a/3a4bd342c4a243beb4ea6b04e2f8ef3a.png
https://cdnph.upi.com/ph/st/th/9961586453643/2020/i/15864541414554/v2.1/Melania-Trump-sports-face-mask-in-coronavirus-PSA.jpg?lg=4

Ankle Bracelets For Kentucky Couple After COVID-19 Test (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547998-Ankle-Bracelets-For-Kentucky-Couple-After-COVID-19-Test&)

James_Madison_Lives
08-01-2020, 09:13 PM
This headline grossly overstates the case. To get into many stores you are required to wear a mask, but when you exit it comes right off. Many cities - they re all blue - have a mandate and lots of people just don't want to get a ticket. But you go Trump country and no one is wearing one.

Anti Federalist
08-01-2020, 09:32 PM
You do know the difference between "recommend" and "mandate under force of federal law", correct?

Am I happy that Trump is "recommending" this nonsense?

No, of course not.

Given a choice would I prefer that, over a National Mask Police?

Yes, of course.

Is that a compromise of principle?

Of course it is...I have no other choice when 95 percent of people around me are compliant assholes who do whatever they are told.




Patriotism is really really catching on if 95% number is accurate, though bit surprising.
But what more Biden's progressive socialism can offer to put Safety First/Families First that current MAGA leadership is not already offering with much greater speed and efficiency. Hard to see any scenario where Biden could be more Patriotic than Trump.


UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-07-23/AGAIN-netizens-ridicule-Trump-s-patriotic-China-virus-tweet-SlTAbTLhAI/img/3a4bd342c4a243beb4ea6b04e2f8ef3a/3a4bd342c4a243beb4ea6b04e2f8ef3a.png
https://cdnph.upi.com/ph/st/th/9961586453643/2020/i/15864541414554/v2.1/Melania-Trump-sports-face-mask-in-coronavirus-PSA.jpg?lg=4

Ankle Bracelets For Kentucky Couple After COVID-19 Test (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547998-Ankle-Bracelets-For-Kentucky-Couple-After-COVID-19-Test&)

dannno
08-01-2020, 10:00 PM
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https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1289372942300622848

Origanalist
08-02-2020, 03:17 PM
So much for American exceptionalism. We suck. Where is the outrage? All I see is compliance with a few rebels here and there until I get far, far away from the urban areas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXxU1b3dXs

cjm
08-02-2020, 03:46 PM
So much for American exceptionalism. We suck. Where is the outrage? All I see is compliance with a few rebels here and there until I get far, far away from the urban areas.

The urban areas are showing their stripes. Not complying here. Seeing a fair amount of non-compliance in a "sub" urban environment (I live in a small city - 100k within city limits) -- not as much as I'd like, but still, a fair amount.


Shout out to the 5% that refuse to put one on. They're the real heroes that we deserve. I'd give them all a medal of honor.

Thank you. There are some locals working on some activism opportunities in my neck of the woods. I'm planning on participating. I'll update here at RPF if it amounts to anything.

Occam's Banana
08-02-2020, 04:03 PM
So much for American exceptionalism. We suck. Where is the outrage? All I see is compliance with a few rebels here and there until I get far, far away from the urban areas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXxU1b3dXs

LMAO @ 0:46 - "Many flouted government guidance ..."

That's a perfect example of what Will Grigg (RIP :sorrow:) would have called "curious grammar" ...

jmdrake
08-02-2020, 04:11 PM
You do know the difference between "recommend" and "mandate under force of federal law", correct?

Am I happy that Trump is "recommending" this nonsense?

No, of course not.

Given a choice would I prefer that, over a National Mask Police?

Yes, of course.

Is that a compromise of principle?

Of course it is...I have no other choice when 95 percent of people around me are compliant $#@!s who do whatever they are told.

How about those of us who wore a mask and refused to lockdown when Fauci said don't wear a mask and stay in your house?

Anyhow, we've been told "If 80% of people wear masks this will be over." Of course it won't be.

cjm
08-02-2020, 04:33 PM
How about those of us who wore a mask and refused to lockdown when Fauci said don't wear a mask and stay in your house?

Anyhow, we've been told "If 80% of people wear masks this will be over." Of course it won't be.

If you wear a mask because you want to, you're ok in my book. But I would recommend that you look into the effectiveness of masks and make sure you understand what kind of protection they offer if you haven't already. They provide a false sense of security to many who think a piece of cloth over the face will prevent contracting a disease.

jmdrake
08-02-2020, 04:44 PM
If you wear a mask because you want to, you're ok in my book. But I would recommend that you look into the effectiveness of masks and make sure you understand what kind of protection they offer if you haven't already. They provide a false sense of security to many who think a piece of cloth over the face will prevent contracting a disease.

I've read more studies about masks than anybody I know. And more important (for me at least) is that I looked at the countries that did not lock down and were having good results. They were wearing masks.

Edit: Here is a metastudy from 2016.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27044522/

Origanalist
08-02-2020, 06:51 PM
There is no second wave.

Origanalist
08-02-2020, 06:53 PM
Now I get confronted in every store I go to, I say the same thing to all of them. "I have a medical condition that requires that I DON'T wear a mask". Forcefully, it works.

Anti Globalist
08-02-2020, 07:29 PM
So much for American exceptionalism. We suck. Where is the outrage? All I see is compliance with a few rebels here and there until I get far, far away from the urban areas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlXxU1b3dXs
Now this is exactly what Americans need to be doing right now.

Anti Federalist
08-02-2020, 07:37 PM
So much for American exceptionalism. We suck. Where is the outrage? All I see is compliance with a few rebels here and there until I get far, far away from the urban areas.

Pretty fucking sad when we "out comply" the goddamn Germans, for fuck's sake.

69360
08-02-2020, 08:13 PM
I think 95% is exaggerated.

enhanced_deficit
08-02-2020, 08:31 PM
You do know the difference between "recommend" and "mandate under force of federal law", correct?

Am I happy that Trump is "recommending" this nonsense?

No, of course not.

Given a choice would I prefer that, over a National Mask Police?

Yes, of course.

Is that a compromise of principle?

Of course it is...I have no other choice when 95 percent of people around me are compliant $#@!s who do whatever they are told.



What do most people think when they are told to do something Patriotic in a 'war against xyz':

A: "It's your Patritic duty"

or

B: "It's your Patriotic recommendation".

It's always A.


Was just commenting on main topic that did not include mandate vs recommendation aspect. But seeing that you jumped to potential future WH occupanats who may or may not get there without even mnetioning the name of current leader under whose watch $6 Trillion wara against 'invisible enemy' is being waged where he has already taken credit for 'saving millions of lives' seemed bit too partisan than logical imo.


Poll: 9 of 10 Americans Wearing Masks in Public
Hannah Bleau 1 Aug 2020
The vast majority of Americans say they either “always” or “sometimes” wear a mask in public, a Morning Consult survey released this week revealed.
The survey, taken July 23-26 among 2,200 U.S. adults, showed that 95 percent have worn masks in public, such as a grocery store, “to some extent” in the last month.
...



If taxpayers funded People's House leader in chief can manadate masks for his own/VIP's safety and no one can come near him before being tested for covid-19, what's the problem with private businesses implementing similar safety manadtes guided by official Task Force of same visinary leader to avoid risks/lawsuits etc?

White House to require staffers to wear masks in West Wing
nbcnews
May 12, 2020 - WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump painted an improving picture of the coronavirus pandemic Monday even as the threat of the virus hit ...


Such mask politics controversies seem rather meanigless in substance and may even be clever coverup ploy by the planners behind $6 Trillion debt spenders on something that in next breath is painted as a 'hoax' by same people?

Granted many Bush-Cheney tricked/burnt gullibles are desperately trying to find a savior lately in the NYC Big Progressive Socialism groomed strong leader but two an two don't add up here. And bashing Bernie-Biden for what is taking place without even mentioning strong leadership brought to play by GOP-Adelson wing leading this $6T war seems bit strange.

Anti Federalist
08-02-2020, 10:51 PM
Was just commenting on main topic that did not include mandate vs recommendation aspect. But seeing that you jumped to potential future WH occupanats who may or may not get there without even mnetioning the name of current leader under whose watch $6 Trillion wara against 'invisible enemy' is being waged where he has already taken credit for 'saving millions of lives' seemed bit too partisan than logical imo.

Trump is recommending. Biden's Bolshies WILL mandate. There is no question about that...the only question is what else will mandated, vaccines, blood draws, tracker chips, god only knows what.

$6 trillion of "stimulus"...LOL...you're worried about that? That's a drop in the bucket...there's $30 trillion on the table, another $60 trillion in next month's mail...that's absurd, black hole sun level debt...it will never get paid.

If you are foolish enough to be holding US government debt, you will be paid in one these three ways:

We'll pay you back with inflated dollars and kiss our ass.

We'll renege entirely and kiss our ass.

We'll bomb you debt holders into atoms and kiss our ass.

Partisan? Possibly...regardless of what Trumpocrisies you may point out, what the Bolshies have in store for us will be worse.


Such mask politics controversies seem rather meanigless in substance and may even be clever coverup ploy by the planners behind $6 Trillion debt spenders on something that in next breath is painted as a 'hoax' by same people?

I already addressed the debt above...that is of even less importance than freedom to most AmeriKunts...nobody cares.

But the maskhole mandates are substantive in this regard: they took a presumption that, for decades and study after study has been understood as true, i.e widespread wearing of masks in public, outside of a clinical environment, provide no real protection against airborne illnesses, and turned it on its head.

And achieved almost 100 percent compliance with a lie.

And just like the lie that having government agents grope your child's genitals will protect you from "terror" it is now a fait accompli, a done deal, the "new normal"...forever.

And that's a big deal.


Granted many Bush-Cheney tricked/burnt gullibles are desperately trying to find a savior lately in the NYC Big Progressive Socialism groomed strong leader but two an two don't add up here. And bashing Bernie-Biden for what is taking place without even mentioning strong leadership brought to play by GOP-Adelson wing leading this $6T war seems bit strange.

I've made it clear I intent to vote for Trump in the fall.

I've laid out very specific reasons for doing so...that doesn't mean I have to rah rah his name in every post...he's done plenty of stupid shit as well...but I don't have to mention that in every post either because there are plenty of people here, like you, who are very quick to point that out, over and over again.

Bashing the Bernie-Biden-Bolsheviks...that, on the other hand, is something that needs to be done every second of every day.

On a personal financial level I will be ruined if they were to come to power...and it will be the third time in my life I will have been put out of business by government.

Occam's Banana
09-08-2020, 09:47 PM
“We’re spending a lot of time right now in our restaurants making sure we can keep our crews safe, making sure we can keep our customers safe,” [McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski] told CBS This Morning.

“We’ve for quite some time required our crew to wear masks, but we thought that in light of what we’re seeing, it’s prudent now that we also ask our customers to wear masks in the restaurant as well,” he continued.

“If someone is unwilling to wear a mask and comply with our rules, that might be where we might bring in law enforcement,” he added.


Rest assured, there may not be a cop around to respond to rioters burning your shit down or raping your daughter...but there will be plenty around to thump your head and take you to prison for violating the face diaper fatwa.

//


Coming to a police state near you ...

https://i.imgur.com/6amObCA.jpg

//

Anti Federalist
09-08-2020, 10:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/6amObCA.jpg
Occam's Banana

I hate to ask...is that real?

Swordsmyth
09-08-2020, 11:04 PM
A recent study discovered only 70 percent of men nationwide report wearing a face mask in public to help stop the spread of COVID-19. That means nearly one-third of men aren’t wearing masks around others, effectively ignoring CDC recommendations and state mandates.

Nonprofit academic medical center Cleveland Clinic conducted the study, which looked at how COVID-19 is impacting men around the U.S. The clinic surveyed 1,000 men nationwide ages 18 and over to compile their findings.

The study also found that only half of men ages 18 to 34 are avoiding gathering in large groups to protect themselves against COVID-19. For men 55 and up, that number spikes to 67 percent of men avoiding larger gatherings.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-1-3-men-arent-135200258.html

Occam's Banana
09-09-2020, 03:57 AM
https://i.imgur.com/6amObCA.jpg
@Occam's Banana (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=28167)

I hate to ask...is that real?

Afraid so. It's from Australia, where they're apparently determined to get back to their roots as a continent-sized penal colony.

I don't have the story behind this particular photo, but it's part of the general craziness going on over there.

Occam's Banana
09-15-2020, 08:55 AM
More insanity from the Land Down Under ...

https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status/1305339140003696641
1305339140003696641

phill4paul
09-15-2020, 09:11 AM
Afraid so. It's from Australia, where they're apparently determined to get back to their roots as a continent-sized penal colony.

I don't have the story behind this particular photo, but it's part of the general craziness going on over there.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cc/National_Firearms_Amnesty_Print_Advertisement.pdf/page1-636px-National_Firearms_Amnesty_Print_Advertisement.pdf. jpg

DiverseSegregation
09-15-2020, 10:06 AM
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enhanced_deficit
09-15-2020, 10:54 AM
Ever since Trump's 'masks are patriotic' shift, situation is turning around fast.


Before:

Donald Trump Supporter wears COVID Diaper ... Protest Against Masks

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/0f/4by3/2020/06/20/0f0976f25efa42ff88009e8ac03b4588_md.jpg
@robertKlemko/Twitter


After:

https://i2.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Trump-rally.jpg?fit=800%2C450&ssl=1
https://mondoweiss.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/nc-1024x513.png
Trump speaks in Winston-Salem, NC, Sept. 8, 2020. Screenshot from NBC news video.

H/T RonZ.





Trump is recommending. Biden's Bolshies WILL mandate.



It is required for those working around him, PR ops aside.


White House to require staffers to wear masks in West Wing
nbcnews
May 12, 2020 - WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump painted an improving picture of the coronavirus pandemic Monday even as the threat of the virus hit ...
Such mask politics controversies seem rather meanigless in substance and may even be clever coverup ploy by the planners behind $6 Trillion debt spenders on something that in next breath is painted as a 'hoax' by same people?
Granted many Bush-Cheney tricked/burnt gullibles are desperately trying to find a savior lately in the NYC Big Progressive Socialism groomed strong leader but two an two don't add up here. And bashing Bernie-Biden for what is taking place without even mentioning strong leadership brought to play by GOP-Adelson wing leading this $6T war seems bit strange.




$6 trillion of "stimulus"...LOL...you're worried about that? That's a drop in the bucket...there's $30 trillion on the table, another $60 trillion in next month's mail...that's absurd, black hole sun level debt...it will never get paid.


If debt is no longer issue, then what's the problem with Dems/Trump team supported progressive socialism and big gummit spending to help the families and the people of America. Let fed gov grow as fat as it wants to be to help itself and everyone else. Let $6 Trillion + 'wars against invisible enemies' and taxpayers funded bailouts continue. Heck help families in rest of rest of the world too wherever taxpayers are funding spreading our values of freedom, racial equality, social justice, LGBTQ rights, womens rights etc. If money is no object, maybe all the reparations should be tackled too, BLM reparations, Iraqi freedom war reparations.. It can be really liberating having unlimited supply of money printers.

2young2vote
09-15-2020, 11:13 PM
My family's business gets people complaining that they have to wear a mask, then we get people complaining people aren't wearing masks ENOUGH (putting them on after they get into the store). Health department has already called us because someone complained. Don't be a rude asshole if you are asked to put a mask on at a small business - you aren't worth their jobs. Just leave. The government is pitting people against each other. My state has already shut businesses down for not following "the law."

On one hand, screw the masks. On the other hand, people need to wear them in my store or the goons will come and shut us down. Michigan. Its a total joke. You have to wear a mask when you enter a restaurant, but you can take them off when you sit down. But you also have to wear a mask when you are grocery shopping. The wave is gone, its time to go back to normal (should have never left normal).

Slave Mentality
09-16-2020, 11:01 AM
My family's business gets people complaining that they have to wear a mask, then we get people complaining people aren't wearing masks ENOUGH (putting them on after they get into the store). Health department has already called us because someone complained. Don't be a rude asshole if you are asked to put a mask on at a small business - you aren't worth their jobs. Just leave. The government is pitting people against each other. My state has already shut businesses down for not following "the law."

On one hand, screw the masks. On the other hand, people need to wear them in my store or the goons will come and shut us down. Michigan. Its a total joke. You have to wear a mask when you enter a restaurant, but you can take them off when you sit down. But you also have to wear a mask when you are grocery shopping. The wave is gone, its time to go back to normal (should have never left normal).

I have ignored every mandate since the start with little repercussion, except once so far - Went to the pizza joint with my kids. Diaper signs everywhere outside. Diaper sign inside says they will give us one if we don't have one. Lady tells us we need. I smile an say we don't wear them and we walk out. No drama.

I understand your sentiment, but businesses are complying themselves right out of business. A rock and a hard place, indeed.

showpan
09-16-2020, 11:04 AM
That's funny, just because some poll says it doesn't make it rue....lol...I recently attended Sturgis where almost half million people were there with no masks. Hardly anyone I know here in my town wears them unless they are required to at some of the stores but not everyone complies. Our bars and restaurants are all open and maybe half in the restaurants and none in the bars. Our Chinese super store here requires them but I do not wear one and nobody has ever said anything to me...lol...I cough when I see someone giving me a dirty look and they scurry away real quick...lol

Suzanimal
09-16-2020, 06:05 PM
5%er here.

I don't wear a fucking mask. Ever. Anywhere. Should've been dead months ago but here I am, almost 50 ( only a few more shopping weeks until my birthday :)) and in excellent health despite my excessive alcohol abuse and recreational smoking.

I've only had a few complaints at the bar but neither of the hoes felt so unsafe they left - they just complained about feeling unsafe. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I have customers calling asking if we wear masks (cuz we're hawt :D) and I say no and they ask if there are any seats. We are busy AF but, unfortunately, we are short staffed and can only handle so many. i cannot wait for this shit to fucking end so I can get back to being a GM and not a fucking line cook. :( And I swear to the Gods, if one more person says I should have more staff on, they will get the entirety of my mental breakdown - gee, why didn't I fucking think of that, Karen?

Anti Federalist
09-16-2020, 08:03 PM
Connecticut Governor’s Mask Mandate Allows Non-Police to Issue Fines

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/16/connecticut-governors-mask-mandate-allows-non-police-to-issue-fines/

Dr. Susan Berry 16 Sep 2020

Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont (D) released his 70th executive order related to the coronavirus Tuesday by announcing fines of $100, which can now be issued by non-police officials, to violators of his mask mandate.

The governor’s executive order authorizes the state “Commissioner of Public Health, local health directors, district health directors, and their designees; municipal chief executive officers and their designees; and state and municipal police officers, peace officers …special police forces … and public safety departments of institutions of higher education to issue fines.”

A fine of $100 can be issued by any of the officials mentioned to any person who is not wearing a mask in a public place, save for those with medical exemptions.

Fines can be issued to those who, while outdoors, are not wearing a mask and not maintaining a distance of six feet from every other person.

Businesses can be fined as well for any employee’s failure to wear the mandated mask.

Those who sponsor or host an outdoor event that violates the Department of Economic and Community Development’s gathering size restrictions for those events can receive a fine of $500, while any person who attends such an event can be fined $250.

Currently, executive orders state private indoor gatherings are capped at a 25-person limit, while private outdoor gatherings are restricted to 100 people. An organized outdoor event cannot have more than 500 people.

The order took effect immediately and will remain in effect until November 9.

Earlier in September, a Democrat-controlled special committee of the Connecticut legislature voted to extend Lamont’s emergency powers until February 9, 2021.

On Wednesday, a man who appeared to be protesting the governor’s mask mandate interrupted Lamont’s press conference during a groundbreaking ceremony for a transit project.

According to WTNH News, the man shouted to the governor using a bullhorn that there is no scientific evidence to support a mask mandate.

The protester said the governor never returned his phone calls. Lamont said he would speak with him after the press conference.

kcchiefs6465
09-16-2020, 08:04 PM
5%er here.

I don't wear a fucking mask. Ever. Anywhere. Should've been dead months ago but here I am, almost 50 ( only a few more shopping weeks until my birthday :)) and in excellent health despite my excessive alcohol abuse and recreational smoking.

I've only had a few complaints at the bar but neither of the hoes felt so unsafe they left - they just complained about feeling unsafe. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I have customers calling asking if we wear masks (cuz we're hawt :D) and I say no and they ask if there are any seats. We are busy AF but, unfortunately, we are short staffed and can only handle so many. i cannot wait for this shit to fucking end so I can get back to being a GM and not a fucking line cook. :( And I swear to the Gods, if one more person says I should have more staff on, they will get the entirety of my mental breakdown - gee, why didn't I fucking think of that, Karen?
Amen.

kcchiefs6465
09-16-2020, 08:07 PM
That's funny, just because some poll says it doesn't make it rue....lol...I recently attended Sturgis where almost half million people were there with no masks. Hardly anyone I know here in my town wears them unless they are required to at some of the stores but not everyone complies. Our bars and restaurants are all open and maybe half in the restaurants and none in the bars. Our Chinese super store here requires them but I do not wear one and nobody has ever said anything to me...lol...I cough when I see someone giving me a dirty look and they scurry away real quick...lol
Out here they all wear masks. Probably 99 out of 100.

Surprising being that it is largely a conservative and freedom oriented community.

I would assume most see it just as a minor inconvenience and comply.

Anti Globalist
09-16-2020, 08:07 PM
When I was checking out of the grocery store yesterday, this guy in front of me was talking about how covid and mandated mask wearing was an election hoax. Dude was speaking so loud everybody in the entire grocery store could hear him. I'm surprised nobody was recording him cause it could have easily been a viral video.

dannno
09-16-2020, 08:28 PM
“He who wears mask alone in car also wears condom alone in bed “– Confucius

Occam's Banana
09-16-2020, 09:26 PM
[...] this guy in front of me was talking about how covid and mandated mask wearing was an election hoax. [...]



Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont (D) released his 70th executive order related to the coronavirus Tuesday by announcing fines of $100, which can now be issued by non-police officials, to violators of his mask mandate.

[...]

The order took effect immediately and will remain in effect until November 9.

//

dannno
09-16-2020, 09:42 PM
1306284121359101952


https://twitter.com/theonlyrymac/status/1306284121359101952

misterx
09-16-2020, 09:49 PM
I think 95% is exaggerated.

I don't. People have no choice but to wear one sometimes. It's not like you can avoid things like going into the bank or hospital.

showpan
09-16-2020, 10:25 PM
It really depends on what state you live in on what is being mandated.

Badnon Wissenshaftler
09-17-2020, 09:07 AM
I've been successful in my masklessness, so far, and haven't been bothered. Also, I was pleased that when first I had to visit Target since these diapers were mandated, I had a pleasant experience. Two employees bid me "good morning", and a manager wished my a nice day as I left. I could almost make out that he was grinning at me when I left, possibly because he thinks it's BS, too.

I still so very little resistance, however. Phoenix, and Maricopa County both have mask mandates, so you can't easily escape that, though I hear Wickenburg largely doesn't comply.

Remember: If they can see your smile, you are the Resistance!

Badnon Wissenshaftler
09-17-2020, 09:15 AM
5%er here.

I don't wear a fucking mask. Ever. Anywhere. Should've been dead months ago but here I am, almost 50 ( only a few more shopping weeks until my birthday :)) and in excellent health despite my excessive alcohol abuse and recreational smoking.

I've only had a few complaints at the bar but neither of the hoes felt so unsafe they left - they just complained about feeling unsafe. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I have customers calling asking if we wear masks (cuz we're hawt :D) and I say no and they ask if there are any seats. We are busy AF but, unfortunately, we are short staffed and can only handle so many. i cannot wait for this shit to fucking end so I can get back to being a GM and not a fucking line cook. :( And I swear to the Gods, if one more person says I should have more staff on, they will get the entirety of my mental breakdown - gee, why didn't I fucking think of that, Karen?

I can tell we'd get along nicely. I have a friend in a very similar position, except she's at a Denny's in Detroit, so bare-facing will get you fired very quickly. 2young2vote up there seems to be in that sinking ship as well.

Badnon Wissenshaftler
09-17-2020, 09:15 AM
“He who wears mask alone in car also wears condom alone in bed “– Confucius

Brilliant!

BSWPaulsen
09-17-2020, 01:30 PM
Here in rural Arizona, the last time I went grocery shopping there were a whopping 3 people (myself included) not wearing masks. Regretfully, I cannot claim to have never worn the damn thing. I recall wearing one in Walmart and UPS Store due to the delusion they really were required by the business when it first started, but stopped altogether once I realized I was playing along with the security theatre. Rural Arizona, or at least my county in particular, is quite red due to ranching/agriculture being so dominant. The average American really has bought into the farce, and it is very sad.

The only redeeming side to all of this is I have not dealt with anyone nagging me to wear one. The two times I suspected I was about to get nagged, it was by elderly mask wearers just trying to make pleasant conversation.

Anti Globalist
09-17-2020, 01:32 PM
So far the only place I can go where nobody working there harasses me to put on a mask is Home Depot.