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RonZeplin
07-02-2020, 03:43 PM
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In a new interview, President Trump has clarified his support for new stimulus checks, adding that he wants them to be bigger than the first round of payments. Image source: Shutterstock


President Trump not only wants most Americans to get a new stimulus check — he wants the payments to generally be bigger than they were the first time around.
The first payments were generally $1,200 for individuals and $2,400 for married couples, funded by a $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief legislative package Congress passed at the end of March.
President Trump also said in a new interview he wants new checks to go out more quickly than they did before.

A little more than a week after a reporter first got President Trump (https://bgr.com/2020/06/23/new-stimulus-check-trump-commits-to-new-package-details-coming-soon/) to go on the record confirming his support for new stimulus checks to offset some of the financial damage of the lingering coronavirus pandemic (https://bgr.com/2020/07/01/coronavirus-map-usa-by-state-county-harvard-spread-risk-level/), the president has reiterated his support for a new round of direct payments to Americans in addition to clarifying what his support means.

For one thing, he wants the new stimulus checks to be bigger this time around. That’s what he told Fox Business (https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-stimulus-checks-phase-four-package), in a new interview, adding that he also wants the checks to be disbursed more quickly than they were the first time around — when the IRS sent them out in waves and some people had to wait a few months to receive their payment.

“I support actually larger numbers than the Democrats, but it’s got to be done properly,” Trump told the cable network. “I want the money getting to people to be larger so they can spend it. I want the money to get there quickly and in a non-complicated fashion.”

One of the reasons the president may be talking this up again now is the fact that a looming expiration of one particular stimulus-related benefit is coming up later this month. At the end of July, a $600 increase in unemployment benefits (https://bgr.com/2020/06/25/stimulus-package-unemployment-benefits-retroactive/) funded by the $2.2 trillion CARES Act that Congress passed at the end of March is set to expire, that being a specific benefit that Republicans have criticized as giving people a disincentive to try to find a new job.

One important thing to note about the expiration of that benefit, though, is that if you need it, you may actually be able to get the increased funding retroactively.

https://bgr.com/2020/07/02/new-stimulus-check-president-trump-supports-new-coronavirus-payments/

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-02-2020, 05:01 PM
Bigger and better. The best stimulus check ever.

jkr
07-02-2020, 05:10 PM
whu biGGer than zero?

RonZeplin
07-02-2020, 07:27 PM
Wealth Spread is the new normal for the neo-socialist YangBanger Trump GOP. :eek:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frashmanly.files.wordpress.com%2F2 009%2F05%2Fwealth_spread_500-1.jpg%3Fw%3D450%26h%3D450&f=1&nofb=1

President Donnell is Obongo on steroids. :redflag:

Anti Globalist
07-02-2020, 07:57 PM
Trump better make sure RonZeplin doesn't give his money.

trey4sports
07-02-2020, 08:15 PM
Wonderful - more debt!

misterx
07-02-2020, 09:27 PM
I don't care, we have bigger problems than the debt. If Democrats get control the first and second amendments are gone. Give everyone ten grand, whatever it takes to win.

RonZeplin
07-02-2020, 09:51 PM
Trump better make sure RonZeplin doesn't give his money.

The average Jane & Joe Sixpack will suffer greatly, this is the promise of Communism.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.veteranstoday.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2FCommies-2.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

The peons share the misery "equally". :redflag:

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-02-2020, 10:59 PM
Wealth Spread is the new normal for the neo-socialist YangBanger Trump GOP. :eek:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Frashmanly.files.wordpress.com%2F2 009%2F05%2Fwealth_spread_500-1.jpg%3Fw%3D450%26h%3D450&f=1&nofb=1

President Donnell is Obongo on steroids. :redflag:

I just consider it getting 1200 of my taxes back.

RonZeplin
07-02-2020, 11:11 PM
I just consider it getting 1200 of my taxes back.

Yeah, looting .gov facilities & property is a tax rebate too. :rolleyes:

Origanalist
07-03-2020, 12:01 AM
There were stimulus checks? Mo gubmint cheese please.

Slave Mentality
07-03-2020, 07:46 AM
I don't care, we have bigger problems than the debt. If Democrats get control the first and second amendments are gone. Give everyone ten grand, whatever it takes to win.

The government being allowed to spend money that they don’t have is the precise reason they can do everything you don’t want the Democrats to do. None of this shit would be possible without deficit spending. Pretty big fucking problem.

misterx
07-03-2020, 03:11 PM
The government being allowed to spend money that they don’t have is the precise reason they can do everything you don’t want the Democrats to do. None of this $#@! would be possible without deficit spending. Pretty big $#@!ing problem.

The government isn't the one restricting speech, it's corporate America. You act like austerity is ever going to happen or work. We are on this corousel until the lights go out.

Origanalist
07-03-2020, 03:23 PM
The government isn't the one restricting speech, it's corporate America. You act like austerity is ever going to happen or work. We are on this corousel until the lights go out.

Tell that to the government schools and virtually every government agency. Your excusing the out of control spending is inexcusable.

phill4paul
07-03-2020, 04:23 PM
Good. I've been eyeing an M1A.

misterx
07-03-2020, 04:49 PM
Tell that to the government schools and virtually every government agency. Your excusing the out of control spending is inexcusable.

Your narrow-minded focus on government is inexcusable. I'm a Ron Paul voter, obviously I'm against limited spending. You have be pragmatic enough to know when to hold em and when to fold em. We aren't reigning in this government. This is a fight to stave off the gulags for as long as possible. Buying votes with a stimulus check is going to add less to the deficit than 14 trillion in reparations if Trump loses, and at least I'll get some of that money instead of it all going to people who mostly hate me.

Snowball
07-03-2020, 05:16 PM
This country is dead.

Deal With IT !!!!!!!!!!

Origanalist
07-03-2020, 05:22 PM
Your narrow-minded focus on government is inexcusable. I'm a Ron Paul voter, obviously I'm against limited spending. You have be pragmatic enough to know when to hold em and when to fold em. We aren't reigning in this government. This is a fight to stave off the gulags for as long as possible. Buying votes with a stimulus check is going to add less to the deficit than 14 trillion in reparations if Trump loses, and at least I'll get some of that money instead of it all going to people who mostly hate me.

Well you addressed half my post, if you think my focus on government is inexcusable we're not even on the same page. You conveniently missed the part where I pointed out your obviously false statement that government doesn't restrict speech.

DamianTV
07-03-2020, 06:04 PM
https://www.askideas.com/media/08/He-Has-Your-Wallet-Funny-Obama-Cartoon.jpg

“A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy...”

― Alexander Fraser Tytler

Trump is trying to buy votes.

It is no longer about being financially responsible. It is about which ever party promises the people the most out of the Public Coffers. Our country will die by the Welfare / Warfare State.

misterx
07-03-2020, 06:11 PM
Well you addressed half my post, if you think my focus on government is inexcusable we're not even on the same page. You conveniently missed the part where I pointed out your obviously false statement that government doesn't restrict speech.

It's a matter of degree. They are not in the same ballpark as corporate America. Governments and corporations can both be oppressive. But, half the people here are ok with corporate tyranny.

oyarde
07-03-2020, 06:19 PM
Having a hard time seeing this clear the senate

euphemia
07-03-2020, 08:20 PM
It’s my money, anyway.

RonZeplin
07-03-2020, 08:35 PM
Trump is trying to buy votes.

It is no longer about being financially responsible. It is about which ever party promises the people the most out of the Public Coffers. Our country will die by the Welfare / Warfare State.

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Neo-Socialist YangBanger Republicans. The new normal. :redflag:

TheCount
07-03-2020, 08:38 PM
Your narrow-minded focus on government is inexcusable. I'm a Ron Paul voter, obviously I'm against limited spending. You have be pragmatic enough to know when to hold em and when to fold em. We aren't reigning in this government. This is a fight to stave off the gulags for as long as possible. Buying votes with a stimulus check is going to add less to the deficit than 14 trillion in reparations if Trump loses, and at least I'll get some of that money instead of it all going to people who mostly hate me.

You can't fight identity politics with identity politics.

nikcers
07-03-2020, 08:51 PM
It's a matter of degree. They are not in the same ballpark as corporate America. Governments and corporations can both be oppressive. But, half the people here are ok with corporate tyranny.

Corporations can be boycotted and essentially defunded. If you dont like a service or product you dont have to buy it. Corporations are national assets. They provide value to capital based economies. Being anti capitalism is being anti american. You probably learned it from your Marxist schools or other anti American programming. They like to blame government caused issues on capitalism because it gives governments less liability when they fuck shit up.

DamianTV
07-03-2020, 10:21 PM
Corporations can be boycotted and essentially defunded. If you dont like a service or product you dont have to buy it. Corporations are national assets. They provide value to capital based economies. Being anti capitalism is being anti american. You probably learned it from your Marxist schools or other anti American programming. They like to blame government caused issues on capitalism because it gives governments less liability when they fuck shit up.

It may be harder to do than most people realize, especially if a company has the US Govt as one of their customers. People can walk away from them, but the US Govt sure as shit wont walk away when that company is spoonfed by the corrupt politicians where they BOTH sell out and betray and financially enslave the people.

nikcers
07-03-2020, 11:17 PM
It may be harder to do than most people realize, especially if a company has the US Govt as one of their customers. People can walk away from them, but the US Govt sure as $#@! wont walk away when that company is spoonfed by the corrupt politicians where they BOTH sell out and betray and financially enslave the people.
Brand loyalty is a bitch. If you point it out in some places you get banned. I like politicians like Rand or Trump that arent shills for their brand. Im proud of this ban. Even though they downvoted me into oblivion they still had to censor me.

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No just bad science became a partisan thing because its profitable. It doesnt take a high viral count to catch a cold virus. Slowing it down doesnt stop it. Herd immunity is built easier when people have a false sense of security and take their preferred information source at face value. DNC and RNC are corporations who are funded by other corporations. All of your information goes through your own bias filter instead of thinking for yourself. Group bias and group think are even more prevalent when people are wearing a mask. Its a brainwash cult indoctrination thing. The whole thing is a psyop because most of the deaths are from bad medicine because drug companies are in bed with corporate government organizations both political parties and have taken over the medical industry creating a medical industrial complex that makes more money from sick people so they dont have incentives to have good medicine.


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DamianTV
07-04-2020, 01:36 AM
nikcers - You know, you should take that Ban as a Badge of Honor.

Reddit has been taken over by Chinese investors. So, if you are banned by Reddit, it means youre supporting the people that do not support Chinese censorship of our own brands.

nikcers
07-04-2020, 02:21 AM
nikcers - You know, you should take that Ban as a Badge of Honor.

Reddit has been taken over by Chinese investors. So, if you are banned by Reddit, it means youre supporting the people that do not support Chinese censorship of our own brands.

Yeah its one of the single biggest reasons the communist ideology became mainstream with millennials. I have spent years trying to reverse this trend. They took over Reddit after the 2012 election. I stuck to /conspiracy but they followed me there and banned me a few weeks ago when i posted information on mental health drugs causing permanent changes to brains and after that i was banned. The police ripped me out of my house after that and threw me into a mental hospital on a false police testimony. They kept me there for a week but they had no legal grounds to hold me. The doctor lied to the court and tried to hold me there on false charges of psychosis.

DamianTV
07-04-2020, 12:29 PM
Yeah its one of the single biggest reasons the communist ideology became mainstream with millennials. I have spent years trying to reverse this trend. They took over Reddit after the 2012 election. I stuck to /conspiracy but they followed me there and banned me a few weeks ago when i posted information on mental health drugs causing permanent changes to brains and after that i was banned. The police ripped me out of my house after that and threw me into a mental hospital on a false police testimony. They kept me there for a week but they had no legal grounds to hold me. The doctor lied to the court and tried to hold me there on false charges of psychosis.

I think a really big part millennials embraced communism is because China and communists in general have infiltrated and effectively replaced any large sources of information about the fundamentals of Liberty and Freedom. Their aim seems to have started in HR Departments so they selectively and knowingly hire teachers that support Communism. They have completely done that with the MSM buy funding and buying out large chunks of our companies.

I believe the result of their replacement of Liberty with Communism is that Millennials have been tricked into supporting Communism because they have not been taught where Communism fails, or its dangers.

- Schools
- Movies and TV Shows
- Social Media
- News Outlets

The Millennials have been brainwashed. And our Public Education is just as guilty of acts of Treason and Sedition as the MSM and CIA. They have been fully infiltrated and now replace Liberty and Rights with the religion of worshiping Communism.

Once that happens, they work with other Known Communists to attack the thing they have been taught to hate: those that are not just like them. Thus, moderators and heads of large social media sites like Reddit dont just call 911, they call Known Communist Law Enforcement. Then those same Communist Law Enforcement (also need to point out its not ALL Cops, many are not, not yet anyway) talk to Known Communist Judges. The goal they have is not to go after you, but everyone who watches what happens to you. If Freedom Lovers that do not have strong social support from their peers and family see something horrible happen to you, they break and become fearful of speaking out against Communism.

enhanced_deficit
07-04-2020, 12:43 PM
Wonderful - more debt!

GOPA funded leadership will probably fix that soon through 3D MAGAnomics.


H/T Rev 3.0:



[April 2, 2016] Donald Trump insists he would be able to wipe out the United States’s debt in eight years.

https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years


Don't think conservative wing of his supporters would stand for 'fool me 6.0'.

nikcers
07-04-2020, 12:45 PM
I think a really big part millennials embraced communism is because China and communists in general have infiltrated and effectively replaced any large sources of information about the fundamentals of Liberty and Freedom. Their aim seems to have started in HR Departments so they selectively and knowingly hire teachers that support Communism. They have completely done that with the MSM buy funding and buying out large chunks of our companies.

I believe the result of their replacement of Liberty with Communism is that Millennials have been tricked into supporting Communism because they have not been taught where Communism fails, or its dangers.

- Schools
- Movies and TV Shows
- Social Media
- News Outlets

The Millennials have been brainwashed. And our Public Education is just as guilty of acts of Treason and Sedition as the MSM and CIA. They have been fully infiltrated and now replace Liberty and Rights with the religion of worshiping Communism.

Once that happens, they work with other Known Communists to attack the thing they have been taught to hate: those that are not just like them. Thus, moderators and heads of large social media sites like Reddit dont just call 911, they call Known Communist Law Enforcement. Then those same Communist Law Enforcement (also need to point out its not ALL Cops, many are not, not yet anyway) talk to Known Communist Judges. The goal they have is not to go after you, but everyone who watches what happens to you. If Freedom Lovers that do not have strong social support from their peers and family see something horrible happen to you, they break and become fearful of speaking out against Communism.

Yes my nightmares are all centered around what happens when all of the older people are gone and millennials are the largest electorate. Most millennials werent taught the failures of socialism and communism. How do you stop a crazy train?

enhanced_deficit
07-04-2020, 01:27 PM
I don't care, we have bigger problems than the debt. If Democrats get control the first and second amendments are gone. Give everyone ten grand, whatever it takes to win.

^this.

If Dems got control, so called '1st amend champions' like Julian Assange and Snowden could remain in current freedom state for a longtime.


https://pics.me.me/the-second-amendment-is-under-attack-the-constitution-must-be-31244671.png



But realistically, GOP sort of signaled end of its political future with biggest blunder in US history (Iraqi Freedom) on Oct 2, 2002. Extreme demoralization of Bush-Cheny conservatives toawrds the end of Bush 2nd term set the stage for non-stop reign of liberal progressive Dems for a very long time ahead. Through Obama/Trump elections, Dems and Dems-lite (socialist RINOs etc) took turns at power and same seems to be future for coming centuries.
On top of blunderous Bush-Cheney Republicans decisions, in two years majority of US adult demographics would be traditional Dems constituencies (non-white adults in majority) also going by 2020 data just posted in other DACA/polling discussion. Unless there is some miraculous change, GOP of yester years might never be back in power .. or at least in foreseeable centuries ahead.
Ironically, big gov debt welfare spenidng like being discussed above is likely to accelerate demograhic shifts that tend to favor progressive socialist Dems.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon1.png For the first time, the majority of people under 16 in America are nonwhite and Hispanic (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547607-For-the-first-time-the-majority-of-people-under-16-in-America-are-nonwhite-and-Hispanic&)

DamianTV
07-04-2020, 01:28 PM
Yes my nightmares are all centered around what happens when all of the older people are gone and millennials are the largest electorate. Most millennials werent taught the failures of socialism and communism. How do you stop a crazy train?

I think we have to do the OPPOSITE of the way they work.

They operate by FEAR. Obey us or there will be consequences. That is FEAR. And FEAR is VIRAL.

The opposite of FEAR is HOPE. I do not believe we will win the war for the minds of our young by trying to tell them to "be afraid of Communism". That is fighting fire with fire. Instead, I think we have to INSPIRE HOPE, that FREEDOM is a far better choice because of its successes when done correctly. In a Free Country, a person that is unhappy with their situation is FREE to quit a shitty job because there are other employers that are willing to pay better and overall happier. People are more free if they want to open their own business. Many Licenses for Business Licenses are in place for no other reason than to prohibit competition. If a person can compete with another company, then the quality of the products and services increases, and the overall happiness of the employees also increases. When there is no other choice but to work at either WalMarx or Amazon, there is no choice to escape slavery.

There are some "tricks" to winning argument.

A lot of what is happening is based on Psychology. People hold on to ideas with emotional attachments. Those ideas are typically learned at early ages. Imagine it this way. Tell a 5 year old that Santa Claus exists, and they will believe you. Why? At that age, they have practically zero real world experience upon which to base a logical argument against the existence of Santa Claus. There is also evidence that Santa Claus exists because the child wakes up on Christmas Morning to find presents to them under a tree addressed to them "from Santa". The lack of ability of the child to defend themselves against false ideas (like Santa) causes them to accept the false idea. Then they continue to hold on to the idea pretty much for the rest of their lives UNLESS the very people that told them that "Santa is real" own up to that lie and finally tell them that "Santa is not real". It is the same thing with Communism / Socialism / Tyranny. When children (Millennials) are exposed to the thing the owners of this country want them to support, they are told GOOD THINGS about Communism, but never the BAD. That is why we have to do the opposite, and express the GOOD OF LIBERTY, and not the BAD OF COMMUNISM. Present them with the information and allow them the Freedom to draw their own conclusions.

But, it takes a LOT to even get to that point. Since we hold on to many ideas with emotional attachment, you will literally need to explain this to them first, and this is highly important as it disables the Pavlovian Rejection of Freedom that is mandatory in Public Education. There can only be three mental states when being exposed to a new idea: REJECT, ENTERTAIN, ACCEPT. In school, children are taught to OBEY. Accept ideas they are told to accept, and reject ideas they are told to reject. Reject is very important because the idea is quickly forgotten. Short Term Memory vs Long Term Memory. If the mind analyzes an idea and it is "known to be false" they reject and forget the idea, and it never makes it to Long Term Memory. Literally explaining the idea of REJECT, ENTERTAIN, ACCEPT to a person prevents them from going immediately into REJECT mode.

Once they understand HOW to think, next step is to ask them to NOT ACCEPT your idea, or any idea that supports our fundamentals UNLESS they examine the idea in detail and consider the possibility that the new idea could be a better idea than the idea they hold on to.

FREEDOM CAN NOT BE FORCED

Allow them the choice for themselves. That is a major mistake that many people who do support freedom make. If you would like an example of this, take a look at Religion. Not so much Religion itself, but the way that it is expressed to other people. If a person tries to force a Muslim religion on you, even if it is expressed as a "Religion of Peace", the idea of the Muslim religion is rejected because it is being Forced upon the recipient, which is the exact opposite of what the religion is supposed to be about. It creates a self-conflict, thus, the idea is rejected. Same thing with Christians. Try to force Jesus on someone, and look at how pissed they get. What they are really pissed about is being forced to adopt an idea where the idea shows self conflict, thus, non-functional. So when we talk about the foundations of the United States being rooted in Liberty and Justice FOR ALL, the idea has to be respectfully offered but can NOT be forced, as it is the exact opposite of the very meaning of Freedom. The Freedom to choose for ones self. When the idea is expressed, it can NOT self-contradict.

Our wiser crew here knows that there are some inherit risks that come with Freedom and Capitalism. We have all entertained the idea that Freedom has some problems. We have taken our time and compared the concept of a Free Republic to other concepts such as Socialism and have decided for ourselves that the benefits far outweigh the risks. That is HOW we are able to make the choice. We dont force the choice. We offer. We inspire. We inform.

BLM wants Freedom. A person can have no more freedom than they are willing to give to another. If BLM wants Freedom from White Oppression, then they need to offer to make White People as FREE as they want to be themselves. Real Freedom is not the Freedom to oppress another. Real Freedom is the freedom to choose what is right for themselves, and respect those that are both different in their choices and genetics. The trouble with BLM is they are operating under Group Psychology where there is NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT. Mob Rule. Basically the best example of what a Democracy really is. To get through to a BLM member, they need to be broken out of the Group Psychology and encouraged to think for themselves independently. That is the ONLY way to get them out of the "seek and destroy white" mindset, and it is ONLY the very first step.


How do you stop a crazy train?

Thinking must always involve REJECT, ENTERTAIN, ACCEPT. Teach them HOW to think for themselves. Break them free of their Group Psychology.

It was once said that men go mad in herds, and only slowly come back to their sanity in solitude of the insane group.