So Domestic production is a national security issue afterall?

[specsaregood]

1239518586630221824

So it sounds like ensuring domestic production of goods is a national security issue afterall. Imagine that....

[sparebulb]

RACIST!!

[devil21]

What specifically are you basing this thread on? News of some sort or just a general thought?

[Todd]

If anything this has completely exposed our reliance on foreign trade and how shipping production overseas is problematic.

[JoshLowry]

RACIST!!

Make another low effort shit post like this again and you're gone too.

[specsaregood]

Make another low effort shit post like this again and you're gone too.

Yeah, maybe he should start some threads saying how walking around barefoot eating oranges will save us all from the WuhanVirus.

[JoshLowry]

Yeah, maybe he should start some threads saying how walking around barefoot eating oranges will save us all from the WuhanVirus.

I'm not going to argue with you. I have presented data from scientific studies and you can take it or leave it.

Eating oranges will only give you about 40mg of vitamin c, it is not what I recommended, and it won't help.

Oranges are also full of glucose.

Covid-19 causes deathly-ill pneumonia and pneumonia thrives on glucose.

I don't deserve your ridicule and insults. Good bye.

[sparebulb]

RACIST!!


Make another low effort $#@! post like this again and you're gone too.

Was my satire too subtle to be understood in the proper context of this issue?

I believe that it was beautiful in its poignant brevity and wit.

If this post is to be my last, let it bring a smile, relief, or a sense of social justice to one and all.

[Origanalist]

Was my satire too subtle to be understood in the proper context of this issue?

I believe that it was beautiful in its poignant brevity and wit.

If this post is to be my last, let it bring a smile, relief, or a sense of social justice to one and all.

That brought a tear to my eyes, + rep.

[Anti Federalist]

1239518586630221824

So it sounds like ensuring domestic production of goods is a national security issue afterall. Imagine that....

Been saying this for years now. I'd rep you if I could.

[Anti Federalist]

Make another low effort shit post like this again and you're gone too.
JoshLowry

Josh, brother, with all due respect, chill.

This is getting out of hand...specs? Seriously? Lord knows I and Mrs. AF have had plenty of insults thrown our way over the years. No reason to run off an '07 legacy member who has, over the years, contributed and stepped up to the plate many times, just because of one smart ass remark.

You'll be talking to an empty room before too much longer...between people that have been run off and people too scared to even make a comment for fear of a ban.

[Todd]

Cash is doing just fine right now. Peter doesn't thrill me like he used to. Cash is one of the few things not tanking right now. Peter's Gold on the other hand isn't exactly skyrocketing. Diversification....

[oyarde]

Been saying this for years now. I'd rep you if I could.

I have always felt domestic production to be important . Not just as a security issue ( which of course it is no matter what deniers say ) but because it is also one of the few ways to produce real wealth . Not paper wealth which is what stocks , bonds , fiat currency and really most service economies feed on . People losing 29 percent of the 401K in less than a month after seeing it depleted by 50 percent in the 08 crash might begin to see , I would hope .

[oyarde]

Cash is doing just fine right now. Peter doesn't thrill me like he used to. Cash is one of the few things not tanking right now. Peter's Gold on the other hand isn't exactly skyrocketing. Diversification....

I am a big believer in diversification too . One of the reasons we have the boom and bust is general lack of it . Peoples savings are all in a home and or 401 K stocks , cash when they dump stocks . That is not very diversified . There is land , copper , lead , small business , rental properties etc

[JoshLowry]

@JoshLowry (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1)

Josh, brother, with all due respect, chill.

This is getting out of hand...specs? Seriously? Lord knows I and Mrs. AF have had plenty of insults thrown our way over the years. No reason to run off an '07 legacy member who has, over the years, contributed and stepped up to the plate many times, just because of one smart ass remark.

You'll be talking to an empty room before too much longer...between people that have been run off and people too scared to even make a comment for fear of a ban.

You and Mrs. AF deserve better.

This place already was essentially an empty room. We were below 1000 uniques when I started back up again in May 2019.

I catch enough flak on other websites where I promote and defend valuable information. I'm not going to allow it here. I'm ripping weeds out of this garden and something new will grow in it's place. I don't care what year the person joined that is being toxic.

Those are two of the most beneficial things you can do for your health.

I'm not budging when people make baseless attacks on my character or reasonable topics that I promote.

[nobody's_hero]

I have always felt domestic production to be important . Not just as a security issue ( which of course it is no matter what deniers say ) but because it is also one of the few ways to produce real wealth . Not paper wealth which is what stocks , bonds , fiat currency and really most service economies feed on . People losing 29 percent of the 401K in less than a month after seeing it depleted by 50 percent in the 08 crash might begin to see , I would hope .

Since the beginning of time wealth has generally been thought to come from production, rather than consumption. (that or you could steal it) The belief that you can consume your way to prosperity is a relatively new-age concept, and Keynesian at its core. If it were true, I'd quit my job and go get a loan from every bank that would give me one. I'd be so rich.

[oyarde]

Since the beginning of time wealth has generally been thought to come from production, rather than consumption. (that or you could steal it) The belief that you can consume your way to prosperity is a relatively new-age concept, and Keynesian at its core. If it were true, I'd quit my job and go get a loan from every bank that would give me one. I'd be so rich.

You'd be one of those rich libertarian basement dwellers I always here about until you converted to Bernie because he would wash your debt . LOL

[ATruepatriot]

JoshLowry

Josh, brother, with all due respect, chill.

This is getting out of hand...specs? Seriously? Lord knows I and Mrs. AF have had plenty of insults thrown our way over the years. No reason to run off an '07 legacy member who has, over the years, contributed and stepped up to the plate many times, just because of one smart ass remark.

You'll be talking to an empty room before too much longer...between people that have been run off and people too scared to even make a comment for fear of a ban.

Fact...

[r3volution 3.0]

@JoshLowry (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1)

Josh, brother, with all due respect, chill.

This is getting out of hand...specs? Seriously? Lord knows I and Mrs. AF have had plenty of insults thrown our way over the years. No reason to run off an '07 legacy member who has, over the years, contributed and stepped up to the plate many times, just because of one smart ass remark.

You'll be talking to an empty room before too much longer...between people that have been run off and people too scared to even make a comment for fear of a ban.

Thirded

[JoshLowry]

None of you will deal with the topic at hand about vitamin c or earthing being a subject that deserves ridicule or being equated to as shit posting.

It is the product of worthwhile research and a willingness to share eccentric, yet solid, data that is disregarded by the mainstream.

Go post in the one word thread more.

[ATruepatriot]

None of you will deal with the topic at hand about vitamin c or earthing being a subject that deserves ridicule or being equated to as $#@! posting.

It is the product of worthwhile research and a willingness to share eccentric, yet solid, data that is disregarded by the mainstream.

Go post in the one word thread more.

Well of course they are important my old friend... But are they worth killing this community over??? Josh... It is irrational man. I hope you can defeat these demons that have possessed you my friend. You have something unique and priceless here, and you are obviously hell bent on throwing it away...

[JoshLowry]

Well of course they are important my old friend... But are they worth killing this community over??? Josh... It is irrational man. I hope you can defeat these demons that have possessed you my friend. You have something unique and priceless here, and you are obviously hell bent on throwing it away...

I have been weeding and fertilizing the garden, not killing it with toxicity.

No demon possession here, I'm doing great.

[ATruepatriot]

I have been weeding and fertilizing the garden, not killing it with toxicity.

No demon possession here, I'm doing great.

Keep in mind that what you have here cannot be replaced. There are no more who will care or come in from these last two socialist generations. So you need these weeds toxic or not or it will be gone. You need these participants as much as they need you, without them you will have nothing. First of all it is not about you, it is about the movement and you have what little is left. Nystrom killed off about 80% of it and now you are about to do in the rest...

[acptulsa]

None of you will deal with the topic at hand about vitamin c or earthing being a subject that deserves ridicule or being equated to as $#@! posting.

It is the product of worthwhile research and a willingness to share eccentric, yet solid, data that is disregarded by the mainstream.

Go post in the one word thread more.

Perhaps everyone is afraid vitamin C would be considered a thread hijack.

With all due respect, this place is named for Dr. Ron Paul. Because of this, it is bound to attract people who have no respect for authority for authority's sake. It always has, and people thumbing their noses at any and every authority figure has been a tradition and an integral part of its appeal. And if the site's authority figures can't stomach that, perhaps the only hope for it is a rebranding.

I've been wondering if this place needs a rebranding for a while. This is not because people here question authority. Ron Paul questions, and even lashes out at, authority. This is because of racism, sexism, and all manner of other collectivism which used to not rule this roost. Please don't tell me this place used to be this full of comments about "Amish" and "Nigerians" (I'm looking at you, for one, Anti Federalist, for saying things jmdrake doesn't deserve to have to read). Please don't tell me Moostraks, MelissaWV, cajuncocoa, Nirvikalpia and many others weren't driven out by rampant sexism, sometimes veiled as GOP partisanship, sometimes naked. None of this has anything to do with Ron Paul. It is an affront to the man. He doesn't deserve to have his good name associated with it.

Yeah, I've had specsaregood go all prickly on me too. But I've also seen Swordsmyth engage in campaigns via both thread attacks and neg rep wars to drive off whole demographics. Whether he denies it or not. Whether he's even conscious of it or not.

Are you ripping out the dandelions because you don't like yellow while the kudzu does the real damage?

[Swordsmyth]

Perhaps everyone is afraid vitamin C would be considered a thread hijack.

With all due respect, this place is named for Dr. Ron Paul. Because of this, it is bound to attract people who have no respect for authority for authority's sake. It always has, and people thumbing their noses at any and every authority figure has been a tradition and an integral part of its appeal. And if the site's authority figures can't stomach that, perhaps the only hope for it is a rebranding.

I've been wondering if this place needs a rebranding for a while. This is not because people here question authority. Ron Paul questions, and even lashes out at, authority. This is because of racism, sexism, and all manner of other collectivism which used to not rule this roost. Please don't tell me this place used to be this full of comments about "Amish" and "Nigerians". Please don't tell me Moostraks, MelissaWV, cajuncocoa, Nirvikalpia and many others weren't driven out by rampant sexism, sometimes veiled as GOP partisanship, sometimes naked (I'm looking at you, for one, @Anti Federalist (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=3169), for saying things jmdrake does not deserve to have to read). None of this has anything to do with Ron Paul. It is an affront to the man. He doesn't deserve to have his good name associated with it.

Yeah, I've had specsaregood go all prickly on me too. But I've also seen Swordsmyth engage in campaigns via both thread attacks and neg rep wars to drive off whole demographics.

Are you ripping out the dandelions because you don't like yellow while the kudzu does the real damage?

I have not engaged in any campaigns to drive off whole demographics with thread attacks or rep wars.

I'll thank you not to project your behavior onto me.

[Origanalist]

Well, there goes specs. Fuck it, I'm outta here.

[r3volution 3.0]

None of you will deal with the topic at hand about vitamin c or earthing being a subject that deserves ridicule or being equated to as shit posting.

It is the product of worthwhile research and a willingness to share eccentric, yet solid, data that is disregarded by the mainstream.

Go post in the one word thread more.

Regular posters like Specs aren't weeds to be tossed in the garbage.

None of the regular posters here should be getting banned like this.

...incidentally, I take Pauling-level doses of vitamin C daily.

:upsidedown:

[CCTelander]

Well, there goes specs. Fuck it, I'm outta here.


While I certainly understand your frustration I still wish you'd reconsider. This place will be a ghost town if this keeps up.

[tfurrh]

Well, there goes specs. $#@! it, I'm outta here.

Don't do it

[Anti Federalist]

Please don't tell me this place used to be this full of comments about "Amish" and "Nigerians" (I'm looking at you, for one, Anti Federalist, for saying things jmdrake doesn't deserve to have to read).

Maybe I would not be making such comments if, over the last few years, I did not have to read how I and my posterity must, at the very least, be silenced in the public square, have no more input into the how the country is run, reduced to second class citizen status, or, at the worst end of the spectrum be forcibly replaced by migrant invasion or purged in a genocide.

At any rate, I have reached out to Josh and spoken with him on the direction he wants to take the forum, and I understand, I just think that maybe he was being too heavy handed and said so, nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry if my comments trigger you, I have spoken with jmdrake on number of occasions as well, and while there may be disagreement, it is what it is, disagreement comes naturally to political board.

My "racism" is nothing compared to what Ron put in his own newsletters...oh yeah, everybody forgot about that.

But go ahead and call me out on it if you want, or if you think it makes some point...I have twelve years of rants, perambulations, thoughts, ideas, jokes, comments and mental indigestion posted here.

I stand by every word...and if you or anybody else think that the forum will be better served by running me off as well, be my fucking guest and take your best shot at it.

Thus is how every failed "movement" ends...the last dying off in a circular firing squad of backbiting and recriminations.

[r3volution 3.0]

Thus is how every failed "movement" ends...the last dying off in a circular firing squad of backbiting and recriminations.

Most violent crimes are between friends and relatives...

You know, on another note, the next years might be among the most interesting - politically, economically, socially - of any of our lives.

It might be nice to not totally self-destruct right now, so that we can discuss things on this, you know, discussion forum.

[acptulsa]

I have not engaged in any campaigns to drive off whole demographics with thread attacks or rep wars.

I'll thank you not to project your behavior onto me.

You say that like Josh has no memory, or can't see reps, or can't dig up old posts of yours you think you forum slid into oblivion by making 50,000 low value "no I didn't" "lol" ":sleeping:" posts. Or maybe you just think the man is stupid.


I stand by every word...and if you or anybody else think that the forum will be better served by running me off as well, be my $#@!ing guest and take your best shot at it.

Thus is how every failed "movement" ends...the last dying off in a circular firing squad of backbiting and recriminations.

Keep your victim card to yourself. Nobody cares.

We've all endured the mainstream media's attempts to divide and conquer us. I've been assaulted by that same crap. I'm the same color and sex you are.

We can rise above it, be smarter and classier than that, reject collectivism, and give ourselves a chance to be part of the solution. Or we can dance to their partisan tune like puppets on strings and get divided and conquered.

I've made my decision and I'm standing fast.

And Ron Paul didn't any more write those newsletters than he write every word--or any word--on this forum which also bears his name.

[ATruepatriot]

Maybe I would not be making such comments if, over the last few years, I did not have to read how I and my posterity must, at the very least, be silenced in the public square, have no more input into the how the country is run, reduced to second class citizen status, or, at the worst end of the spectrum be forcibly replaced by migrant invasion or purged in a genocide.

At any rate, I have reached out to Josh and spoken with him on the direction he wants to take the forum, and I understand, I just think that maybe he was being too heavy handed and said so, nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry if my comments trigger you, I have spoken with jmdrake on number of occasions as well, and while there may be disagreement, it is what it is, disagreement comes naturally to political board.

My "racism" is nothing compared to what Ron put in his own newsletters...oh yeah, everybody forgot about that.

But go ahead and call me out on it if you want, or if you think it makes some point...I have twelve years of rants, perambulations, thoughts, ideas, jokes, comments and mental indigestion posted here.

I stand by every word...and if you or anybody else think that the forum will be better served by running me off as well, be my $#@!ing guest and take your best shot at it.

Thus is how every failed "movement" ends...the last dying off in a circular firing squad of backbiting and recriminations.

It's not over yet... I will not let it. :)

[Anti Federalist]

None of you will deal with the topic at hand about vitamin c or earthing being a subject that deserves ridicule or being equated to as shit posting.

It is the product of worthwhile research and a willingness to share eccentric, yet solid, data that is disregarded by the mainstream.

Go post in the one word thread more.

Mrs. AF takes care of the alternative medicine end of things.

I agree with Vitamin C dosing as being an effective alternative treatment for many common ailments.

I'm not convinced earthing provides any benefit, but I'll admit to not having researched it to any great degree.

That said, even if it didn't, if it provides a "placebo" benefit then great.

What is the first line of the Hippocratic oath?

At first, do no harm.

[Swordsmyth]

Keep your victim card to yourself. Nobody cares.

We've all endured the mainstream media's attempts to divide and conquer us. I've been assaulted by that same crap. I'm the same color and sex you are.

We can rise above it, be smarter and classier than that, reject collectivism, and give ourselves a chance to be part of the solution. Or we can dance to their partisan tune like puppets on strings and get divided and conquered.

I've made my decision and I'm standing fast.
That's what some Jews said about the NAZIs.

Culture matters and certain imported cultures and native subcultures are making themselves our enemies and are determined to murder and rob us.
And it's not just people with different skin colors, there are cultures composed of whites that are part of it too.
What they all share is a virulent leftism.

You claim to be so tolerant and wave around your tolerance of those who would kill us but you have been trying to drive conservatives off this site since before I came here, I've watched it and I've been told about it.

[Anti Federalist]

Keep your victim card to yourself. Nobody cares.

We've all endured the mainstream media's attempts to divide and conquer us. I've been assaulted by that same crap. I'm the same color and sex you are.

We can rise above it, be smarter and classier than that, reject collectivism, and give ourselves a chance to be part of the solution. Or we can dance to their partisan tune like puppets on strings and get divided and conquered.

I've made my decision and I'm standing fast.

Not every damn thing in this world is controlled by George Soros.

Sometimes a thing is just a thing and must be dealt with as such.

But that's great, you do what you need to do, and so will I...that's the fucking point of a political message board: to present and argue ideas and different points of view and try to convince those that not decided into agreeing with your position.

The difference here is that I'm not calling out to authority your posting or comments as being "kudzu" that should be eliminated for the common good.

[Anti Federalist]

And Ron Paul didn't any more write those newsletters than he write every word--or any word--on this forum which also bears his name.

Ah, got it...poor quality control then...because, unlike this forum (myself and few others excepted), people paid good money for newsletter that bore his name.

One would have to assume he at least reviewed it's content for that price.

[acptulsa]

That's what some Jews said about the NAZIs.

GODwin be praised.


Not every damn thing in this world is controlled by George Soros.

Sometimes a thing is just a thing and must be dealt with as such.

But that's great, you do what you need to do, and so will I...that's the $#@!ing point of a political message board: to present and argue ideas and different points of view and try to convince those that not decided into agreeing with your position.

The difference here is that I'm not calling out to authority your posting or comments as being "kudzu" that should be eliminated for the common good.

Play all the victim cards you want, but don't put words in my mouth. I didn't call you kudzu, and I didn't call for you to be weeded out.

I just challenged you to stop lumping jmdrake in with a bunch of teenage gangbangers. If that's too much if a challenge for you, that's a shame.

[Swordsmyth]

You say that like Josh has no memory, or can't see reps, or can't dig up old posts of yours you think you forum slid into oblivion by making 50,000 low value "no I didn't" "lol" ":sleeping:" posts. Or maybe you just think the man is stupid.
If Josh cares to look he will see who is the rep warrior and who tries to drive others off the site.

I'm not worried.

[acptulsa]

If Josh cares to look he will see who is the rep warrior and who tries to drive others off the site.

I'm not worried.

You virtue signal like a real pro(g).

[Anti Federalist]

Play all the victim cards you want, but don't put words in my mouth. I didn't call you kudzu, and I didn't call for you to be weeded out.

I just challenged you to stop lumping jmdrake in with a bunch of teenage gangbangers. If that's too much if a challenge for you, that's a shame.

Horse-SHIT, pal.

You called me out, BY NAME with a notification, as being a racist dirtbag writing things that other members should not have to read and that I (among others) was responsible for driving down membership and posters and being an affront to the good name of Ron Paul.


Perhaps everyone is afraid vitamin C would be considered a thread hijack.

With all due respect, this place is named for Dr. Ron Paul. Because of this, it is bound to attract people who have no respect for authority for authority's sake. It always has, and people thumbing their noses at any and every authority figure has been a tradition and an integral part of its appeal. And if the site's authority figures can't stomach that, perhaps the only hope for it is a rebranding.

I've been wondering if this place needs a rebranding for a while. This is not because people here question authority. Ron Paul questions, and even lashes out at, authority. This is because of racism, sexism, and all manner of other collectivism which used to not rule this roost. Please don't tell me this place used to be this full of comments about "Amish" and "Nigerians"

(I'm looking at you, for one, Anti Federalist, for saying things jmdrake doesn't deserve to have to read).

Please don't tell me Moostraks, MelissaWV, cajuncocoa, Nirvikalpia and many others weren't driven out by rampant sexism, sometimes veiled as GOP partisanship, sometimes naked. None of this has anything to do with Ron Paul. It is an affront to the man. He doesn't deserve to have his good name associated with it.

Are you ripping out the dandelions because you don't like yellow while the kudzu does the real damage?

Own what you said.

[r3volution 3.0]

That's what some Jews said about the NAZIs.

Culture matters and certain imported cultures and native subcultures are making themselves our enemies and are determined to murder and rob us.
And it's not just people with different skin colors, there are cultures composed of whites that are part of it too.
What they all share is a virulent leftism.

You claim to be so tolerant and wave around your tolerance of those who would kill us but you have been trying to drive conservatives off this site since before I came here, I've watched it and I've been told about it.

The idea that this site is dominated by leftists is outrageously insane, unless by leftists you mean nationalists such as yourself. Other than Zippy, who was less a virulent propaganda machine for the DNC than a piece of furniture that you forgot was in the room, there are no Democrats here. There were, however, around the last election, when this site underwent a radical change, a ton of (a) neo-Nazis, and (b) straight GOP/Trump shills. This would be in fairly sharp contrast to the previously libertarian character of the forum.

[Anti Federalist]

Here's the straight dope one last time:

1 - Freedom is not fucking popular.

2 - The Ron Paul movement died because most of the people involved wanted nothing to do with liberty. This is a matter of fact and can be proved simply by pointing out how many Ron Paulers jumped right on the Bernie Sanders bandwagon. Most of the "movement" were not interested in "hard" liberty and limited government.

[Anti Federalist]

The idea that this site is dominated by leftists is outrageously insane, unless by leftists you mean nationalists such as yourself. Other than Zippy, who was less a virulent propaganda machine for the DNC than a piece of furniture that you forgot was in the room, there are no Democrats here. There were, however, around the last election, when this site underwent a radical change, a ton of (a) neo-Nazis, and (b) straight GOP/Trump shills. This would be in fairly sharp contrast to the previously libertarian character of the forum.

Really?

You're in favor of abolishing all nations and establishing a globalist monarchy.

How is it you can sling the "neo-nazi" accusation around at people that simply want to have an independent nation and a representative republic?

Which is exactly and precisely what Ron Paul has always wanted.

But you're not "kudzu" or running people off or a drag on the forum.

[r3volution 3.0]

Here's the straight dope one last time:

1 - Freedom is not fucking popular.

2 - The Ron Paul movement died because most of the people involved wanted nothing to do with liberty. This is a matter of fact and can be proved simply by pointing out how many Ron Paulers jumped right on the Bernie Sanders bandwagon. Most of the "movement" were not interested in "hard" liberty and limited government.

That's exactly right, though I'd add that round about the same number of "libertarians" supported (and support) Trump.

Ron, and Murray, used to talk about the "remnant."

We thought for a time that those days were over.

Woops, Carolingian renaissance failure: back to the dark ages.

We're like those Irish monks who spent five centuries just recopying Marcus Aurelius on the off chance that someone, someday, might care.

And that's okay, because someday, someone will care.

But, in the meantime, curb your enthusiasm.

...which is one of the reasons that "lifestyle libertarianism" is so ridiculous.

[r3volution 3.0]

Really?

You're in favor of abolishing all nations and establishing a globalist monarchy.

That's right.


How is it you can sling the "neo-nazi" accusation around at people that simply want to have an independent nation and a representative republic?

Because nationalistic democracy is the exact opposite of cosmopolitan monarchy?

I'll take a Habsburg over a Hitler any old day of the week.


Which is exactly and precisely what Ron Paul has always wanted.

But you're not "kudzu" or running people off or a drag on the forum.

I don't speak Japanese, or whatever language that might be, sorry.

[Anti Federalist]

I don't speak Japanese, or whatever language that might be, sorry.

"Kudzu" is a highly invasive and fast growing damaging weed that has covered many areas in the US south.

[r3volution 3.0]

"Kudzu" is a highly invasive and fast growing damaging weed that has covered many areas in the US south.

So, rather like democracy then?

[Anti Federalist]

So, rather like democracy then?

Rather like, yes.

[r3volution 3.0]

Rather like, yes.

Rather like, good luck with the people you've elected..

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9970166bdb8317067ac80254c989a3f1/tenor.gif?itemid=6117066

We'll be here, copying Marcus Aurelius, as always.

Knock on wood to keep the Allendes away.

[Anti Federalist]

Rather like, good luck with the people you've elected..

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9970166bdb8317067ac80254c989a3f1/tenor.gif?itemid=6117066

We'll be here, copying Marcus Aurelius, as always.

Knock on wood to keep the Allendes away.

Never was a fan of democracy.

Ah well...time to go fall on my sword.

[acptulsa]

Horse-$#@!, pal.

You called me out, BY NAME with a notification, as being a racist dirtbag writing things that other members should not have to read and that I (among others) was responsible for driving down membership and posters and being an affront to the good name of Ron Paul.



Own what you said.

I own what I said and I own my interpretation of what I said.

Are you going to own the fact that you cut a whole paragraph out of that quote, just to make it look like you had something to whine about?

Here, let me help a brother out.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RLhmG-LIwnE/maxresdefault.jpg

Oh, and Ron Paul still didn't write those damned newsletters. That was somebody other than Ron Paul, who knew they were writing under Ron Paul's good name on the banner, but couldn't be bothered to make sure what they wrote hewed to Ron Paul's values, and wound up aiding and abetting the enemy as a result. Pal.


Ah, got it...poor quality control then...because, unlike this forum (myself and few others excepted), people paid good money for newsletter that bore his name.

One would have to assume he at least reviewed it's content for that price.

Did Ron Paul get any of that money? Are you saying that even libertarians are incapable of protecting our movement, respecting Ron Paul's good name and proving our philosophy sound by accepting the responsibility that comes with freedom and guarding our own tongues?


Here's the straight dope one last time:

1 - Freedom is not $#@!ing popular.

Is that because the responsibility is more than even we can bear?

If we can't handle freedom and its responsibilities, how do we convince everyone else that it's the best system for everyone?

[Peace Piper]

Thus is how every failed "movement" ends...the last dying off in a circular firing squad of backbiting and recriminations.

This is the exact moment the "Ron Paul Movement" died.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JrixcZbcw

Ron Paul and his pompous, arrogant kid expected ME and his other "followers" to vote for a 2 bit corporatist that is so far removed from a real conservative it's beyond hilarious. And, for the most part, his followers went along with this betrayal. Right here on this board.

Now, this place has become (D) vs. (R) thanks to recent arrivals (TRAITORS), and has allowed rampant (R) spam - to the point of absurdity.

What a shame.

Tomorrow (http://costofwar.com) the US will waste another ~$200 MILLION DOLLARS drone bombing wedding parties and pine nut farmers, while Rand plans the next round of golf with a Republican Insider.

People once asked how Germans allowed their "leader" to do what he did.

In the future, people will ask how Americans allowed their rogue government to murder millions, blow their treasury and kill the very essence of the nation. And hopefully Ron will be remembered and Rand will be recognized as the one that derailed his fathers message.

Just a few generations ago, Americans built an interstate highway system that connected Seattle to Miami. Present day Americans can't even build a useless 2 mile wall on a border. Aren't you all proud. Keep Voting Republican!!!!! ROFL and Keep kicking out 07's! That will fix it!

[nobody's_hero]

This is the exact moment the "Ron Paul Movement" died.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JrixcZbcw

Ron Paul and his pompous, arrogant kid expected ME and his other "followers" to vote for a 2 bit corporatist that is so far removed from a real conservative it's beyond hilarious. And, for the most part, his followers went along with this betrayal. Right here on this board.

You think that's why Rand endorsed Romney? To get us to go along with it?

[asurfaholic]

I just can’t buy into the idea of banning people for useless, sarcastic, or otherwise contrary posts.

Unless one is intentionally trying to disrupt conversation on a regular basis, there has to be some allowance for the usual internet typical s#*+posting.

For me, I don’t really enjoy political debates and deep long winded posting. I’m just here because I still love what Ron Paul did and stood for. I liked that the movement trended to make people reject the mainstream politics. Now this place, as posted earlier, is a republican v Democrat site where trump is almost revered. He’s not bad, but any post contrary to he is God is almost immediately ridiculed.

[dokkie]

I'm not going to argue with you. I have presented data from scientific studies and you can take it or leave it.

Eating oranges will only give you about 40mg of vitamin c, it is not what I recommended, and it won't help.


I take loads of vitamins C myself so I can't argue with this. I take EmergenC which gives you 4000 mg of vitamin c per dose



Oranges are also full of glucose.

Covid-19 causes deathly-ill pneumonia and pneumonia thrives on glucose.

I don't deserve your ridicule and insults. Good bye.

You do know your pancreas regulates your blood glucose levels, if you are not diabetic your blood sugar levels should rarely go above 130(most hovers around 90-100). Plus, just about everything you eat will turn into glucose. Fat, protein whatever can be converted by the body into glucose. This is because without glucose your cells will die.

Lastly if your theory about pneumonia and glucose is true then you should be seeing more cases of pneumonia in diabetic patients. I don't think the literature backs you up on this.

[dokkie]

Perhaps everyone is afraid vitamin C would be considered a thread hijack.

With all due respect, this place is named for Dr. Ron Paul. Because of this, it is bound to attract people who have no respect for authority for authority's sake. It always has, and people thumbing their noses at any and every authority figure has been a tradition and an integral part of its appeal. And if the site's authority figures can't stomach that, perhaps the only hope for it is a rebranding.

I've been wondering if this place needs a rebranding for a while. This is not because people here question authority. Ron Paul questions, and even lashes out at, authority. This is because of racism, sexism, and all manner of other collectivism which used to not rule this roost. Please don't tell me this place used to be this full of comments about "Amish" and "Nigerians" (I'm looking at you, for one, @Anti Federalist (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=3169), for saying things jmdrake doesn't deserve to have to read). Please don't tell me Moostraks, MelissaWV, cajuncocoa, Nirvikalpia and many others weren't driven out by rampant sexism, sometimes veiled as GOP partisanship, sometimes naked. None of this has anything to do with Ron Paul. It is an affront to the man. He doesn't deserve to have his good name associated with it.

Yeah, I've had specsaregood go all prickly on me too. But I've also seen Swordsmyth engage in campaigns via both thread attacks and neg rep wars to drive off whole demographics. Whether he denies it or not. Whether he's even conscious of it or not.

Are you ripping out the dandelions because you don't like yellow while the kudzu does the real damage?

Expanding my vocab, had to look up what Kudzu is :). I am already learning stuff from this site :)

[RonZeplin]

I take loads of vitamins C myself so I can't argue with this. I take EmergenC which gives you 4000 mg of vitamin c per dose




You do know your pancreas regulates your blood glucose levels, if you are not diabetic your blood sugar levels should rarely go above 130(most hovers around 90-100). Plus, just about everything you eat will turn into glucose. Fat, protein whatever can be converted by the body into glucose. This is because without glucose your cells will die.

Lastly if your theory about pneumonia and glucose is true then you should be seeing more cases of pneumonia in diabetic patients. I don't think the literature backs you up on this.

I love citrus, got lots of limes, lemons & oranges on the trees, no coronavirus here.

[dokkie]

I love citrus, got lots of limes, lemons & oranges, no coronavirus here.

Serious question, how do you know you don't have it? the Utah basket ball player Mitchell tested positive for it and he did not have ANY symptoms.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/utah-jazz-star-donovan-mitchell-171558906.html

[RonZeplin]

Serious question, how do you know you don't have it? the Utah basket ball player Mitchell tested positive for it and he did not have ANY symptoms.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/utah-jazz-star-donovan-mitchell-171558906.html

No exposure to it, haven't left the ranch for weeks and if i had it before that there would be symptoms by now.

[Anti Federalist]

I own what I said and I own my interpretation of what I said.

Are you going to own the fact that you cut a whole paragraph out of that quote, just to make it look like you had something to whine about?

The paragraph in question was discussing the acts of other members, not me. They are perfectly capable of speaking up if they need to.

For the record, here is your entire quote:


Perhaps everyone is afraid vitamin C would be considered a thread hijack.

With all due respect, this place is named for Dr. Ron Paul. Because of this, it is bound to attract people who have no respect for authority for authority's sake. It always has, and people thumbing their noses at any and every authority figure has been a tradition and an integral part of its appeal. And if the site's authority figures can't stomach that, perhaps the only hope for it is a rebranding.

I've been wondering if this place needs a rebranding for a while. This is not because people here question authority. Ron Paul questions, and even lashes out at, authority. This is because of racism, sexism, and all manner of other collectivism which used to not rule this roost. Please don't tell me this place used to be this full of comments about "Amish" and "Nigerians" (I'm looking at you, for one, Anti Federalist, for saying things jmdrake doesn't deserve to have to read). Please don't tell me Moostraks, MelissaWV, cajuncocoa, Nirvikalpia and many others weren't driven out by rampant sexism, sometimes veiled as GOP partisanship, sometimes naked. None of this has anything to do with Ron Paul. It is an affront to the man. He doesn't deserve to have his good name associated with it.

Yeah, I've had specsaregood go all prickly on me too. But I've also seen Swordsmyth engage in campaigns via both thread attacks and neg rep wars to drive off whole demographics. Whether he denies it or not. Whether he's even conscious of it or not.

Are you ripping out the dandelions because you don't like yellow while the kudzu does the real damage?


Oh, and Ron Paul still didn't write those damned newsletters. That was somebody other than Ron Paul, who knew they were writing under Ron Paul's good name on the banner, but couldn't be bothered to make sure what they wrote hewed to Ron Paul's values, and wound up aiding and abetting the enemy as a result. Pal.

Was it? Also, for the record, I found nothing horribly "racist" about what was printed in those newsletters anyway.


Did Ron Paul get any of that money? Are you saying that even libertarians are incapable of protecting our movement, respecting Ron Paul's good name and proving our philosophy sound by accepting the responsibility that comes with freedom and guarding our own tongues?

I'm going to assume so.

My tongue is guarded. You've known me for over 12 years. At no time in those 12 years have I spoken lightly or gently. I despise the greasy dissimulation of political correctness and diplomatic platitudes.

That said, I realize I'm not in my office or wheelhouse and I do temper my remarks.

I have seen a distinct change in the body politic and the direction it is going over the last few years, even before Trump.

I am therefore responding to it.

You do not like my responses, and took this opportunity, on a completely unrelated subject, to call me out specifically as a reason for the forum's decline, as a means to shut me up.

That's a lousy fucking stunt to pull, especially coming from somebody who, outside of politics, we shared a common interest and had enjoyable conversations about it.


Is that because the responsibility is more than even we can bear?

If we can't handle freedom and its responsibilities, how do we convince everyone else that it's the best system for everyone?

Does that include the freedom to comment as someone sees fit about current events?

[Anti Federalist]

This is the exact moment the "Ron Paul Movement" died.

Yes, yes it was.

[dokkie]

No exposure to it, haven't left the ranch for weeks and if i had it before that there would be symptoms by now.

And nobody has tricked anything or visited your house in the time of the epidemic. You do the virus in ideal conditions can live up to 3 days on surfaces.

You dont know if you have it unless u are tested

[RonZeplin]

And nobody has tricked anything or visited your house in the time of the epidemic. You do the virus in ideal conditions can live up to 3 days on surfaces.

You dont know if you have it unless u are tested

No visitors, ideal conditions have been achieved. Eating citrus & vitamin C tabs too. Bulletproof. :100:

[Danke]

Well, there goes specs. Fuck it, I'm outta here.

Come back, I'm gonna give Josh a time out for a while.