Ron Paul Now Flies on Private Jets

[skiingff]

This is more economical. Time is money, and now he can get to more events more quickly and make more appearances.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5380871.html

[quantized]

That's the way to go!!! Time is money. More time, more rally, more votes.

[coffeewithchess]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

[angrydragon]

Whatever happen to the guy who offered to fly Ron Paul in his private jet for free?

[john_anderson_ii]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

I have faith in Paul. At the end of the day, he's still the boss and he still wants something significant to show for our money.

This is actually a good sign. It means the campaign has grown huge. It means Paul's presence is requested in several places at once. It means he's opening and staffing offices in more cities, and getting more boots on the ground.

[hillertexas]

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[Paulite5112007]

I'd rather he fly those jets. MUCH better use of his time.

[nist7]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

Blowing money on crap? I think Romney is the best expert in that area :D:D:D


Whatever happen to the guy who offered to fly Ron Paul in his private jet for free?

:eek:

[RonPaulFever]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

90 is nothing....Hillary has several hundred

[dirka]

Sure he has 100 paid staffers, and another 100,000 unpaid staffers!!!

ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM

[RonPaulFever]

Additionally, I'm a little sickened by the criticism of those who don't think RP deserves or needs to fly on a private jet.

[coffeewithchess]

90 is nothing....Hillary has several hundred

And has raised about 10 times the amount of money...

[freestyl24]

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[angrydragon]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=5263

Back in July

what ron paul is missing -- free private jet travel offer for Dr. Paul
I emailed Ron Paul's events coordinator Andrew Michel with the following proposal to offer him a free flight on a private jet to any campaign stop of his choice; lets help stop getting his message delayed flying commercially:

[Mahkato]

If he can get an extra half hour nap in each day because he can fly alone, this is WELL worth the expense. And 90 paid staff is NOTHING. There are close to 1,000 times that many members in Ron Paul Meetup groups. Hire 500 people. Pay them well.

[Perry]

What? We just rented the guy his own blimp and he's still taking jets?

[Mahkato]

He probably would not legally be able to accept the offer of a private jet from someone, due to campaign finance restrictions.

[QWE]

Did Paul take up that offer of a free jet that someone offered months ago?

[ReallyNow]

This is actually great news. It shows the campaign really coming together as a solid, first tier campaign and not one who is doing things on a shoestring budget.

Plus I remember that picture of Dr Paul in the airport from that writer who sat behind him in the airplane and he looked so lonely :(

[CanadiansLoveRonPaul]

Sure he has 100 paid staffers, and another 100,000 unpaid staffers!!!

ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM

Wait...we're not getting cheques?

[jasonoliver]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

plus 90,000 UNPAID volunteers :D

[shoms_w]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

He knows what he is doing. I would trust him with my bank account :)

[daviddee]

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[pacelli]

Additionally, I'm a little sickened by the criticism of those who don't think RP deserves or needs to fly on a private jet.

I think it is wonderful that Dr. Paul is finally using our money to get the most out of his campaigning time. After all the fights that he has fought in his life, he finally gets to enjoy campaigning in style. He is a top-tier candidate and deserves to be treated as such. I'm also glad he has more people paid to help him out. His comfort will come through in his message to voters. I'd much rather he use private jets if it will help do more interviews and be at more events.

Also, I don't think he is carelessly spending our money- does anyone really think, that with his voting record & economic experience, he would abuse our funds? I remember one member of this forum posted a picture taken last week of Dr. Paul standing by himself (with bags) in an airport terminal. He was going home to visit his family. And he did not use a private jet to do so.

[Nash]

I just hope the Paul campaign isn't pulling a John McCain and blowing the money on crap. The campaign has 90 PAID staffers...I just hope they are actually worth the money they are being paid.

Dude the guy has to blow 20 million dollars in like 2 months. There is no "saving for a rainy day" here. He has to spend his money to rise up in the polls and he has to do it now. The day(s) of reckoning are less than 2 months away.

[angrydragon]

Who's complaining about the charter jets? Ron Paul deserves this luxury.

[Paulitician]

This is cool. Good for him.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

remember that private jet company that was going to offer Ron Paul free services just because they support his policies? Why didn't he use them? Maybe we need to inform the campaign!!
http://www.imperialjets.com/Ron-Paul-Uncensored.html

[the_oco]

remember that private jet company that was going to offer Ron Paul free services just because they support his policies? Why didn't he use them? Maybe we need to inform the campaign!!
http://www.imperialjets.com/Ron-Paul-Uncensored.html

This was cleared up above. The jet time would be considered a donation and so Ron would be able to get $2300 of jet time (about an hour in a light jet) and then no more, and seeing as jet time starts as soon as those engines fire up this isn't practical. I think this has something to do with the way the laws were 'restructured' and kicked into effect recently.

[LibertyEagle]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=5263

Back in July

what ron paul is missing -- free private jet travel offer for Dr. Paul
I emailed Ron Paul's events coordinator Andrew Michel with the following proposal to offer him a free flight on a private jet to any campaign stop of his choice; lets help stop getting his message delayed flying commercially:

That was ONE free flight.

[voisine]

This is great news. He really looked exhausted and almost sick in a few interviews last month. I noticed he seemed to be back to his old self in the last week or so. He'll be much better able to present this incredibly important message, he'll be able to think of responses better, and he'll be able to make more appearances. I feel better about this than running the same 30 second tv ad for weeks or sending a freaking 20 page color printed manuscript to every voter in NH that most will just toss.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

That was ONE free flight.

Why not take advantage of that one flight?

[austin356]

Whatever happen to the guy who offered to fly Ron Paul in his private jet for free?



That is completely illegal.

[austin356]

Huckabee in private jets? :) :) :)

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Huckabee in private jets? :) :) :)

Nope. He can't afford it lol

[Dan D.]

Good, but only because the campaign has the money for it. Not that the good doctor doesn't personally deserve it in any case. Damn M-F CFR! (the law, not the <expletive> organization ;))

[LibertyForAll]

Ron Paul knows that time is money, and he is very wise in getting a private charter plane, not to mention his security will be better, he will get more rest, make more campaign stops, it's ALL GOOD.

[Joe3113]

He knows what he is doing. I would trust him with my bank account :)

+1

[Cinaed]

This is great news. He really looked exhausted and almost sick in a few interviews last month. I noticed he seemed to be back to his old self in the last week or so. He'll be much better able to present this incredibly important message, he'll be able to think of responses better, and he'll be able to make more appearances. I feel better about this than running the same 30 second tv ad for weeks or sending a freaking 20 page color printed manuscript to every voter in NH that most will just toss.

That's true. He looked really under-the-weather at the Iowa debate. It could have just been the lighting, but he looked rather pale and less focused than usual. Comparing that particular performance to his relatively more fiery CNN and Fox debates, it is really likely that he was somewhat ill.

I'm 19, and I get tired just thinking about what a man at 72 must do for a campaign. A private jet is a small price that I think we should all be willing to pay so that he doesn't wear himself out to death before he sits in the Oval Office.

[SJohnsson]

That's true. He looked really under-the-weather at the Iowa debate. It could have just been the lighting, but he looked rather pale and less focused than usual. Comparing that particular performance to his relatively more fiery CNN and Fox debates, it is really likely that he was somewhat ill.

I'm 19, and I get tired just thinking about what a man at 72 must do for a campaign. A private jet is a small price that I think we should all be willing to pay so that he doesn't wear himself out to death before he sits in the Oval Office.

That's why its so critical we keep him rested and comfortable when convenient (like on a private jet) so he's in top form when things get ramped up for primaries

[JosephTheLibertarian]

does he ride the jet alone? how does his staff get around?

[webber53]

That's true. He looked really under-the-weather at the Iowa debate. It could have just been the lighting, but he looked rather pale and less focused than usual. Comparing that particular performance to his relatively more fiery CNN and Fox debates, it is really likely that he was somewhat ill.

I'm 19, and I get tired just thinking about what a man at 72 must do for a campaign. A private jet is a small price that I think we should all be willing to pay so that he doesn't wear himself out to death before he sits in the Oval Office.

+1

[Cowlesy]

Finally. I'm glad the campaign is trying to maximize efficiency with respect to his time. A serious contender for POTUS can't be stuck toodling around airports waiting for delayed commercial flights like the rest of us riff-raff.

Smart move here by the team!

[Eric21ND]

Ron Paul's next jet will be Air Force One. :)

[Eric21ND]

Damn that's what we should've named the blimp....Air Force Ron!!

[austin356]

Ron Paul's next jet will be Air Force One. :)


He can rid Air Force Ron after he wins the election.:D:D:D

[Ready2Revolt]

Well, I guess no more rallies at Intercontinental Airport of Houston.

[SJohnsson]

Well, I guess no more rallies at Intercontinental Airport of Houston.

Man, those were the good ol' days... what was that? June?

i feel like i was such a young lad back then, when i first discovered this guy

[Joe3113]

That's why its so critical we keep him rested and comfortable when convenient (like on a private jet) so he's in top form when things get ramped up for primaries

+1

We need to keep him rested and do the leg work ourselves. Then we bring him out refreshed for the big stuff.

[Wingman]

SO WHEN DO WE GET TO FLY HIS PRIVATE JET???

i think we're donating waaay too much...

[Lacrosseus]

What? We just rented the guy his own blimp and he's still taking jets?

If he goes to these events with others -- staff, his wife... then the actual cost of the flight, per person, is about the same as paying for short notice seats on an airplane. Add other factors such as the costs for rental cars and gas -- that can be saved by flying close to home and events -- a private jet is a smart move.

[Pharoah]

Anthony Corrado, a campaign finance expert at Colby College in Maine...

"Paul has "harnessed the power of the Internet," to bring in large sums of money from small donors."

:) I just love that the so-called experts still don't get it.

[Cowlesy]

If he goes to these events with others -- staff, his wife... then the actual cost of the flight, per person, is about the same as paying for short notice seats on an airplane. Add other factors such as the costs for rental cars and gas -- that can be saved by flying close to home and events -- a private jet is a smart move.

Yep --- And if you are purchasing refundable tickets incase your plans are changing constantly, the price of tickets skyrockets.

[Malakai0]

I said awhile ago he would have to start using one eventually if the campaign takes off (as it has). Our airline system is retardedly screwed up. It's like children are running it.

It takes soooo long to get ANYWHERE lately.

[xao]

I said awhile ago he would have to start using one eventually if the campaign takes off (as it has). Our airline system is retardedly screwed up. It's like children are running it.

It takes soooo long to get ANYWHERE lately.

Thank HLS for that.

[voytechs]

Finally, I was worried about all the commercial flying he was doing. Too slow, too hard on his health and open to personal attacks or injury. We need him to cover as much ground as possibly and I don't care how much he has to spend to spread himself around.

We know money raised won't be abused, I couldn't say that about anyother candidate, like Huckster and Benito. Romney, I think he owns his jets.

[Mark]

I said awhile ago he would have to start using one eventually if the campaign takes off (as it has). Our airline system is retardedly screwed up. It's like children are running it.

It takes soooo long to get ANYWHERE lately.
Not to mention the lost/late luggage that I've personally delivered a lot of the last couple of years.

His plane better not "crash" like other political maverick's have done. There will be Hell to pay.

[Starks]

Hiring a private jet or Lincoln Towncar does not equate to "selling out".

[osofaux]

Our man is in demand, and now, thanks to our generous donations he has transportation on demand.

You get to the White House by getting to as many places as you can beforehand, and you don't accomplish that by waiting around at airports.

[Starks]

There is little to be gained from being frugal this close to the primaries.

[Don]

does he ride the jet alone? how does his staff get around?

Budget rental cars and Southwest Airlines (coach).

[walt]

This is good news. :)

[voytechs]

This was cleared up above. The jet time would be considered a donation and so Ron would be able to get $2300 of jet time (about an hour in a light jet) and then no more, and seeing as jet time starts as soon as those engines fire up this isn't practical. I think this has something to do with the way the laws were 'restructured' and kicked into effect recently.

That means that each plane would have to be filled with standby pilots and every hour on the hour 1 pilot would have to parachute out of the plane while the next standby pilot takes his place. Its doable and hell a lot of fun too. Did I mention this approach would also generate a lot of publicity?

[qednick]

He should be flying in the blimp - powered by rockets. :D

[voytechs]

SO WHEN DO WE GET TO FLY HIS PRIVATE JET???

i think we're donating waaay too much...

waaay too much... sarcasm!!!

[voytechs]

I said awhile ago he would have to start using one eventually if the campaign takes off (as it has). Our airline system is retardedly screwed up. It's like children are running it.

It takes soooo long to get ANYWHERE lately.

Especially now around the holiday seasons, it would be complete waist of something more precious than gold, Dr. Paul's time and health.

[constituent]

parachutes and PRIVATE armed (aircraft) escorts are included in the package, right?

sorry.

[constituent]

Budget rental cars and Southwest Airlines (coach).

the only one to ever turn a profit... that's what i like to read.

[voytechs]

I actually think they should have done this in September. We would be much higher in poll numbers by now.

[PatriotOne]

Perhaps this has to do with the realities of flying on the east coast during the winter and holidays. Too many flight delays, missed connections, airline traffic, etc. He CAN'T afford not to during this crucial time of campaigning.

[johngr]

that's really cool. I always worried about his safety flying commercial.

Yeah, Paul Wellstone probably worried about that, too. :(

[hopeforamerica]

He knows what he is doing. I would trust him with my bank account :)

Excellent first post!!

[TheNewYorker]

Whatever happen to the guy who offered to fly Ron Paul in his private jet for free?

Yeah, like how 4 or 5 of the kennedy's (save for JFK himself) died in plane crashes that were supposedly "accidents" ?

No thanks

[0zzy]

Hm... that is a LOT of money. I hope it's worth it!

[shoms_w]

Excellent first post!!

First post here. Been supporting the doc for a while now.

Never ever in my life did I think I would trust a public offical. Never ever did I think I would be so hopeful.

We have someone who finally deserves a chance, let us all make sure he has all the tools needed to succeed. These chances come once in a lifetime, lets give it our all.

[davidkachel]

Dr. Paul is 72 years old!!! Who among us would even consider getting out of our recliners at age 72, let alone do what he is doing?
Yet, he has strapped on his pistols and waded into the fight of his life.
He needs the GD private plane and he deserves it. Period.

[matthylland]

Whatever happen to the guy who offered to fly Ron Paul in his private jet for free?

I wonder if security had something to do with it. Isn't Paul protected by the secret service now that he is running as president? Maybe he cant accept jet rides with "strangers"? i dont know...just a guess

[JPFromTally]

When I saw this I knew it was time for a private jet:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/VirtualContent/99983/ron_p.jpg

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/trailmix/dec07/lonelinessofronpaul.htm

[hawks4ronpaul]

Idea for jet: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=54479

[LukeNM]

Where are all these negative people coming from? They sound like paid staffers of other campaigns.

100 paid staffers is nothing if we really plan on winning. I hope after tomorrow they hire 100 more...

If feel that security for Ron Paul will become an issue so private jets make sense if only for that reason.

[MelissaCato]

I dunno but, does anyone have pictures ?

I'm glad he has a private jet. I hope his crew is all Military and he's got Fighter Bombers or something as escorts. :D