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enhanced_deficit
02-04-2020, 12:57 PM
Bit disappointing response to bold mideast peace plan designed by senior WH advisor with vast foreign policy experience who was in the past also called America's First 'Russian son-in-law'.
Be interesting to see how GOPA wing leadership would respond to this. This report from a source that appears to be way more liberal than Foxnews, CNN etc but story checks out.


Palestinians cut all ties with US and Israel over "arrogance" of Jared Kushner’s “peace” deal

"There will be no relations at all," Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said after rejecting Kushner's proposal

Igor Derysh
February 3, 2020

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas announced Saturday that the Palestinian Authority would cut all ties with the U.S. and Israel after rejecting the "peace" plan spearheaded by Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner.
President Donald Trump outlined the heavily pro-Israel proposal (https://www.salon.com/2020/01/28/palestinians-rejected-middle-east-peace-plan-spearheaded-by-kushner-before-it-was-even-announced/) while standing alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House last week with no Palestinian representatives present. The plan would create a demilitarized Palestinian state while establishing Jerusalem as Israel's undivided capital and allowing illegally built Israeli settlements (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/world/middleeast/israel-west-bank-settlements.html) in the West Bank to remain in place.
Abbas, who immediately rejected the proposal, went further while addressing an emergency meeting of the Arab League called in response to the plan.
"We've informed the Israeli side . . . that there will be no relations at all with them and the United States, including security ties," Abbas said Saturday, according to Reuters (https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/03/world/middleeast/01reuters-israel-palestinians-security.html).
The Palestinians have long cooperated with Israeli forces in policing occupied areas of the West Bank and shared intelligence with the CIA.
Abbas said he refused multiple attempts by Trump to discuss the proposal.
"Trump asked that I speak to him by phone, but I said, 'No.' And that he wants to send me a letter . . . but I refused it," he said, explaining that he did not want Trump to be able to say he consulted the Palestinians in announcing the plan.
The Palestinians ended talks with the Trump administration in 2017 after Trump moved the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and were not involved in crafting Kushner's plan.
Abbas reiterated his "complete" rejection of the Kushner peace plan Saturday.
"I will not have it recorded in my history that I sold Jerusalem," he said.
Dozens of Middle Eastern nations joined Abbas in condemning the plan.

salon.com/2020/02/03/palestinians-cut-all-ties-with-us-and-israel-over-arrogance-of-jared-kushners-peace-deal/





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Determined to prevent Billy from testifying, Charles set up a honey trap (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/19/nyregion/major-donor-admits-hiring-prostitute-to-smear-witness.html?_r=0) for his brother-in-law in a motel room—fully equipped with video cameras—and paid a prostitute $10,000. Kushner then sent a tape of the assignation to his sister, who promptly turned her brother’s attempt at blackmail over to the authorities.

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Heaven forbid, if any foreign-firster/parasitic lobbies manipulated current leadership, GOPA wing could become history after 2020 and Deep Zioncons (Right wing) funded politicians would lose credibility as pro-racial equality/anti-chosen race dogma peace brokers.


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enhanced_deficit
02-04-2020, 11:48 PM
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vita3
02-05-2020, 08:07 AM
Peace deal without talking with other side is loooooney.

Sammy
02-05-2020, 10:03 AM
OK the peace deal is not perfect but the Palestinians could get a state with this deal.
Now they have no state.

Swordsmyth
02-05-2020, 04:58 PM
Peace deal without talking with other side is loooooney.
They had and still have every opportunity to talk about it, they refuse.
Since they refuse then all we can do is put an offer on the table in the hopes that they will change their minds and negotiate.

RonZeplin
02-05-2020, 07:27 PM
:info: Giving Javanka the finger is the true path to peace. :up:

enhanced_deficit
02-05-2020, 07:49 PM
Peace deal without talking with other side is loooooney.

There have been claims that this was just an 'election lift' plot for GOPA wing funded Polish-Israeli leader by the other politician funded by same donor.
Sort of fundee-to-fundee favor between two fundees funded by same globalist neoconservative funder.

That said, language and cartoons used in media to depict this dynamic went too far and seemed to cross the line.



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LONDON — Less than a month after being sworn in, President Trump welcomed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel to the White House with a bold promise: He would broker a peace accord between the Israelis and the Palestinians — the diplomatic unicorn that had eluded half a dozen of his predecessors.

“I think we’re going to make a deal,” he said in 2017. “It might be a bigger and better deal than people in this room even understand.”
“As with any successful negotiation,” Mr. Trump continued, “both sides will have to make compromises. You know that, right?” he added, turning to his guest.
Mr. Netanyahu grinned. “Both sides,” he replied.

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OK the peace deal is not perfect but the Palestinians could get a state with this deal.
Now they have no state.

Yea they seem bit too perfectionist when it comes to so called 'Freedom' and don't seem to settle for less than perfect liberties. One would think a starving people would be grateful for a generous offering of crumbs and would jump on this once in a lifetime opportunity.


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Zippyjuan
02-05-2020, 07:53 PM
So far, only two people have come out in favor of the deal- Israel and Trump.

enhanced_deficit
02-05-2020, 08:20 PM
:info: Giving Javanka the finger is the true path to peace. :up:

Granted their policies are not perfect, hopefully criticism of policies would be done without sacrificing poltical decorum and respect.

Recent NYDN cover had used G-word while criticizing senior White House adviser and First Daughter. Top Dem leading the 2020 race, Bernie Sanders, just called her father a 'pathological liar'. Never seen polarization like this in US politics.

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So far, only two people have come out in favor of the deal- Israel and Trump.

At least two other Senior White House Advisors cited in this post also support it.