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timosman
02-03-2020, 10:02 AM
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/02/bernie-sanders-climate-federal-electricity-production-110117


02/02/2020

Sanders wants federally owned utilities to build massive amounts of wind and solar to compete with private generators, but critics say that would complicate an already tricky transition to clean energy.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders has put nationalizing health insurance at the center of his presidential campaign, but his proposal to fight climate change also calls for a government takeover of a fundamental segment of the economy — electricity production.

Sanders has laid out a $16 trillion climate change plan that would transition U.S. electricity generation away from fossil fuels to renewable resources like wind, solar and hydropower by 2030. That’s far faster than any other Democratic candidate's target and sets a pace that rivals like former Vice President Joe Biden say is unrealistic.


And like Sanders' healthcare plan, the green energy push would muscle many of the country's biggest companies out of the business.

A Sanders administration would pour funding into the four existing "power marketing administrations" that are overseen by the Energy Department, as well as the Tennessee Valley Authority and one newly created entity, to vastly expand their solar, wind and geothermal power production. Those organizations currently provide power from hydroelectric dams to 33 states, and would be able to sell the increased green energy to local utilities nationwide — creating a sort of "public option" that would compete with the coal, natural gas and nuclear plants owned by privately owned power generators.

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oyarde
02-03-2020, 10:34 AM
thanks democraps

Anti Federalist
02-03-2020, 10:52 AM
What was juleswin saying about how "Sanders doesn't want to nationalize" industry?

jkr
02-03-2020, 11:37 AM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sieze the means of production?

sounds familiar...

Ender
02-03-2020, 11:41 AM
Too bad we couldn't go back to Tesla, who invented free power for everyone. That was REAL free- not gov "free".

Can't have any of that real free stuff, now can we?

luctor-et-emergo
02-03-2020, 11:44 AM
Works well for South-Africa. Cheap power... A little unfortunate that it's also unavailable from time to time...

Anti Globalist
02-03-2020, 01:25 PM
In other words Sanders to seize the means of production. That has communist written all over it.

luctor-et-emergo
02-03-2020, 01:42 PM
In other words Sanders to seize the means of production. That has communist written all over it.

Is it much of a surprise?

juleswin
02-03-2020, 02:34 PM
Works well for South-Africa. Cheap power... A little unfortunate that it's also unavailable from time to time...

Omaha public power district. Look it up, it's a publicly owned energy company here in the US. The board members are elected by the people. If this is communism then the US have had communism for decades now.

FunkBuddha
02-03-2020, 03:26 PM
Omaha public power district. Look it up, it's a publicly owned energy company here in the US. The board members are elected by the people. If this is communism then the US have had communism for decades now.

Every utility company served by TVA is either a municipal utility district or a member owned electric cooperative I believe. Despite my issues with our local power board here, it seems to be a good model. We have low rates comparatively and the power is very reliable.

juleswin
02-03-2020, 03:32 PM
Every utility company served by TVA is either a municipal utility district or a member owned electric cooperative I believe. Despite my issues with our local power board here, it seems to be a good model. We have low rates comparatively and the power is very reliable.

Yea, not complaing about our govt owned electric company. Its reliable, its relatively cheap and they respond very quickly to outages. I am just replying to the people who think govt managing energy companies is communism.

oyarde
02-03-2020, 04:04 PM
Once Bernie is elected he can nationalize Jules Bank , 401K , paycheck etc

tod evans
02-03-2020, 04:26 PM
Everything government gets involved in it fucks up.