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SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:21 PM
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2843/youtuberonpaulef0.png

So, is this doable? Maybe not for the Top Viewed, but I'm sure we can at least plan it out to have it like this on the Top Favorites or the Top Rated. Good idea?

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:23 PM
bump

BillDayton
12-14-2007, 11:24 PM
I am speechless. Now that is viral.

Possible anyone?

Roxi
12-14-2007, 11:25 PM
how can we make this happen?

T206
12-14-2007, 11:25 PM
That would be awesome...Id do whatever I could to help view/vote to keep them that way

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:26 PM
how can we make this happen?

It's possible with careful planning. We'd just have to do it letter by letter.

Dan D.
12-14-2007, 11:26 PM
That would be a mighty feat. But like the preschoolers in "Meet the Parents" it wouldn't last very long.

No1ButPaul08
12-14-2007, 11:27 PM
I think December 16th would be a good day for this

xexkxex
12-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Now THAT...would be impressive! :D

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:28 PM
I think December 16th would be a good day for this

Well, it takes a while for the list to update, so I was thinking some time during tomorrow (the 15th) would be good so that we make sure they're up in time.

theseus51
12-14-2007, 11:28 PM
Do it on a subject that doesn't have too many hits, like auto mechanics from poland or something. If you do it in news, there's too many other videos with too many hits.

justinc.1089
12-14-2007, 11:29 PM
Lets do it. This won't be that hard would it? If we just keep telling everyone the url's for these videos and watch them and rate them and stuff won't they go to the top like that?

Man from La Mancha
12-14-2007, 11:29 PM
Someone would have to write a special script thru one website for this to happen, but youtube would probably ban it.IMO

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Liberty Star
12-14-2007, 11:30 PM
Wow, that is an insanely interesting idea, the arrangement looks great.

No one can beat RP supporters when it comes to being creative and motivated.

No1ButPaul08
12-14-2007, 11:31 PM
Youtube owes this to Ron Paul. They should not stop it, but they probably will

sirachman
12-14-2007, 11:31 PM
Neat idea, but will many people really give a crap for all the work it will take. Hell wouldn't something like raising a crap load of money to advertise on yahoo.com or something be a better use of resources?

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:31 PM
Someone would have to write a special script thru one website for this to happen, but youtube would probably ban it.IMO

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A special script wouldn't be needed. Like theseus51 said, we'd probably just need to do it in a different category, maybe.

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:32 PM
Actually, I take that back. I believe that we can pull it off on News & Politics. I mean, the top favorites currently over there ARE Ron Paul videos, and once other supporters see what we're doing, they'll join in.

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:33 PM
Also, should all the letters be the exact same font with the exact same colors, or should they all be different, to show originality?

rollingpig
12-14-2007, 11:33 PM
WOW, that's creative!

Joe3113
12-14-2007, 11:33 PM
Lets try this on Dec 16th

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:34 PM
Lets try this on Dec 16th

Again, it's not advisable. They wouldn't show up on the page until the 17th.

BillDayton
12-14-2007, 11:34 PM
How will you keep them in order?

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:35 PM
How will you keep them in order?

Well, considering I was able to coordinate users to make the Most Responded Video Ever on YouTube at one point (had 4,000+ responses before YouTube removed about 90% of them), I'm sure it won't be too difficult. Again, once they see what we're doing, they'll probably help us keep it in order.

Ozwest
12-14-2007, 11:37 PM
This is a great idea, and News and politics is the perfect place to do it.

ronpaulblogsdotcom
12-14-2007, 11:37 PM
This is a bad idea. It is a waste of time, technical and out of our control.

Why dont you go DTD and hand out flyers?

Plus how long do you think Youtube will allow it to happen? 5 minutes and then they hand adjust the front page. Who says that they do not hand adjust right now?

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:38 PM
This is a bad idea. It is a waste of time, technical and out of our control.

Why dont you go DTD and hand out flyers?

Just like the media's Huckabee coverage?

Man from La Mancha
12-14-2007, 11:39 PM
Well, considering I was able to coordinate users to make the Most Responded Video Ever on YouTube at one point (had 4,000+ responses before YouTube removed about 90% of them), I'm sure it won't be too difficult. Again, once they see what we're doing, they'll probably help us keep it in order.I like it but don't see anyway to keep the letters from changing positions especially if some 1000 rudy supporters try attacking just one video.
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SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:40 PM
I like it but don't see anyway to keep the letters from changing positions especially if some 1000 rudy supporters try attacking just one video.
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If they attack our videos, we can use it against them. Besides, you underestimate the flare and spirit of Ron Paul supporters. ;)

Ozwest
12-14-2007, 11:42 PM
If you can pull it off, it will show everyone we have ownership of the Net.

BillDayton
12-14-2007, 11:43 PM
Let us not say that we did not try.

ronpaulblogsdotcom
12-14-2007, 11:43 PM
Just like the media's Huckabee coverage?

If I understand what you are saying yes. If something is out of our control go another route. Stop calling and sending press releases if it doesnt work on the media. Just go door to door and talk to people. How better to have them know what RP and RP supporters are about?

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:44 PM
If you can pull it off, it will show everyone we have ownership of the Net.

Oh trust me, we can pull it off. I know what I'm doing.

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:45 PM
If I understand what you are saying yes. If something is out of our control go another route. Stop calling and sending press releases if it doesnt work on the media. Just go door to door and talk to people. How better to have them know what RP and RP supporters are about?

Let me put it to you this way. The #4 Top Rated video currently on News & Politics has 101 favorites. With my knowledge of the Internets and the people I can contact, I can guarantee you nearly 100 favorites just from my efforts alone.

Now, if I can do that, I'm sure a lot of everybody here can help me organize the letters so that they fit properly.

burningfur
12-14-2007, 11:46 PM
I don't know if it's even possible, but I'm in, someone set up a site so we can go and get the vids to the top!

Ozwest
12-14-2007, 11:47 PM
Oh trust me, we can pull it off. I know what I'm doing.
Then best you get on with it!

ronpaulfan
12-14-2007, 11:47 PM
If we had this much coordination, we could spam a Ron Paul advertisement to the top of the charts every day of the week. Unfortunately, Ron Paul supporters are generally too lazy to click more than a few times :D

We might be able to do this if Bryan ever makes my video forum ;)

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:47 PM
I don't know if it's even possible, but I'm in, someone set up a site so we can go and get the vids to the top!

No need to set up a site. Not enough time, anyway.

Speaking of which, how are we going to upload these videos? There's going to be 12 of them, so we'd need 12 people to upload 12 videos.

Any volunteers? I call dibs on the "A". <_<

adwads
12-14-2007, 11:48 PM
How will you keep them in order?

It's easy to keep them in order. All you have to do is tell everyone to view the first one 10 times, the second one 9 times, the third one 8 times, and so on. Or I don't know if its views or ratings or whatever--just tell everybody to hit the videos the proper amounts of times in descending order.

justinc.1089
12-14-2007, 11:48 PM
I don't know much about how youtube handles the top videos like that, but getting tons of views, comments, ratings, and favorites shouldn't be too hard. Even keeping the letters in order shouldn't be too hard.

I like the idea.

jake
12-14-2007, 11:48 PM
No need to set up a site. Not enough time, anyway.

Speaking of which, how are we going to upload these videos? There's going to be 12 of them, so we'd need 12 people to upload 12 videos.

Any volunteers? I call dibs on the "A". <_<

can people just replace the snapshot image for the existing ron paul videos?

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:49 PM
It's easy to keep them in order. All you have to do is tell everyone to view the first one 10 times, the second one 9 times, the third one 8 times, and so on. Or I don't know if its views or ratings or whatever--just tell everybody to hit the videos the proper amounts of times in descending order.

We're going to go for Favorites first. If that goes well, we may try for Ratings (those will be harder to beat, though). I have no idea how to do the view count, so I'm not sure if we can go for that.

NewEnd
12-14-2007, 11:49 PM
The only way to do this would be with an anonymizer.
Its a waste of effort, IMHO, and would only allow people to show proof of manipulation.

adwads
12-14-2007, 11:51 PM
The only way to do this would be with an anonymizer.
Its a waste of effort, IMHO, and would only allow people to show proof of manipulation.

When did we get so serious that we can't do publicity stunts? Publicity stunts are what has gained Dr. Paul the most news coverage yet...Nov 5, the blimp, Dec 16, and so on. The stunts gain him the coverage necessary for supporters, and the message gains him the supporters.

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:52 PM
The only way to do this would be with an anonymizer.
Its a waste of effort, IMHO, and would only allow people to show proof of manipulation.

Do what with an anonymizer (proxy?)?

justinc.1089
12-14-2007, 11:53 PM
If we just do favorites this should be fine, and legit too right? I don't see why all the RP supporters favoriting some videos would need anything technical to help.

But I don't understand how youtube works in detail either so maybe this is not as simple as it looks idk lol.

mopar.bo
12-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I'm on board if y'all can figure it all out.

ronpaulblogsdotcom
12-14-2007, 11:55 PM
So you want 100 people to help you with this project instead of going outside and doing something real? I have like 5 big projects and anyone can PM for an idea.

mopar.bo
12-14-2007, 11:55 PM
There's a big "fuck-up" factor though. Sorry if that sounds negative.

justinc.1089
12-14-2007, 11:56 PM
So you want 100 people to help you with this project instead of going outside and doing something real? I have like 5 big projects and anyone can PM for an idea.

Favoriting a video only takes a second. I watch youtube videos fairly often, so it wouldn't take anytime away from me.

Pride
12-14-2007, 11:56 PM
There's a big "fuck-up" factor though. Sorry if that sounds negative.

I agree, I don't think this is possible.

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:56 PM
So you want 100 people to help you with this project instead of going outside and doing something real? I have like 5 big projects and anyone can PM for an idea.

No, I already have 100 people that can help. That's what I'm saying. I can get a little "catalyst" boost to start it off so people don't feel discouraged.

SonicInfinity
12-14-2007, 11:57 PM
I agree, I don't think this is possible.

That's the thinking that will make us lose the nomination if we're not careful. Anything and EVERYTHING is possible with a strong enough will and unwaivering determination.

patriotcalendar
12-15-2007, 12:18 AM
Sounds like fun to me!

I've got two youtube accts, so just let me know which letters (font, etc) you want posted...

If you run short on uploaders, I can get my daughter and some of her teen friends in on this.

:D

NewEnd
12-15-2007, 12:47 AM
Withotu an anonymizer, it would take alot of coordination.

If you think you can pull it off, go for it. But it will take alot of planning and effort, and I doubt it will get much publicity.

burningfur
12-15-2007, 12:48 AM
I bump this even though it seems impossible.

Didn't a blimp seem impossible also?

;)

mrd
12-15-2007, 12:51 AM
Hate to pooh pooh, but I think it will diminish the appearance of authenticity of his YouTube popularity.

SonicInfinity
12-15-2007, 12:54 AM
Hate to pooh pooh, but I think it will diminish the appearance of authenticity of his YouTube popularity.

That's a good point, and it's making me rethink the whole thing. Will YouTube viewers see this as a coordinated effort on the part of his grassroots supporters, or will they just see it as a group of spammers?

I still think we need to do SOMETHING YouTube related on the 15th. That much I am sure of.

austin356
12-15-2007, 01:00 AM
the only reason I think you can pull it off is that once the framework gets put in place and people see what is going on then they will work as a free market and fix everything as if it was open source.

gandhi08
12-15-2007, 01:02 AM
This is an awesome publicity stunt. Lets go for it. It doesnt cost a penny, just a few more clicks than usual from the ron paul army.

I certainly think that we can pull it off. We normally have 5 ron paul videos on the front page on youtube news and politics.

And yes, Let it not be said that we did nothing.

Great idea.