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Warlord
01-17-2020, 07:47 AM
So much for Trump's strategy/3d chess, etc. :rolleyes:



Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has said European nations including the UK "cannot be trusted" but Tehran is not against negotiating with anyone - except the US.

Giving his first sermon in eight years in Tehran, the top cleric branded Donald Trump a "clown" who only pretended to support the Iranian people and would "push a poisonous dagger" into their back.

Mr Khamenei also hailed missile strikes against US targets in retaliation for the assassination of Iran's top military commander as a "slap on the face" to the superpower.

Mr Khamenei's defiant address came as the Iranian leadership faced pressure both at home and abroad.

Thousands had gathered inside the grand mosque in central Tehran and packed the surrounding streets, chanting "Death to America".

Iran has been rocked by protests after the military admitted to mistakenly shooting down a passenger plane, killing all 176 passengers on board, in the tense hours after the missile attack.

Mr Khamenei described the crash as a tragedy and a very sad incident that was used by Iran's "enemies", used to overshadow the killing of Major General Qassem Soleimani, whose funeral drew huge crowds onto the streets.

New CCTV footage has emerged which purports to show two missiles launching in Tehran and hitting the Ukrainian passenger jet

The deadly drone strike against the military leader showed Washington's "terrorist nature", he said.

Referring to Tehran's show of force in response, Mr Khamenei added: "The fact that Iran has the power to give such a slap to a world power shows the hand of God."

Tensions between Iran and the US have steadily ramped up since Mr Trump withdrew from Iran's 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, which imposed curbs on its nuclear programme in exchange for the lifting of international sanctions.

The White House has subsequently slapped crippling sanctions on Iran, including its vital oil and gas industry, pushing the country into an economic crisis that has triggered unrest.

Mr Trump has openly encouraged the protesters - even tweeting in Farsi - in a bid to destabilise America's longtime foe.

After Maj Gen Soleimani was killed in Baghdad, Iran announced it would no longer be bound by the limitations in the nuclear agreement.

Britain, France and Germany, who have been trying to salvage the unravelling deal, responded by triggering a formal dispute mechanism that is aimed at bringing Iran back into line and could result in further sanctions.

Mr Khamenei, who was always sceptical of the nuclear accord, told worshippers the European countries "cannot be trusted" and said they were too weak to "bring Iranians to their knees".

He said they were "contemptible" governments and "servants" of the US.

However, he added that Iran was willing to negotiate, but not with Washington.

Donald Trump warns Iran that consequences will be suffered if any wrong-doing is perpetrated

The 80-year-old has held the country's top office since 1989 and has the final say on all major decisions.

He last delivered a Friday sermon in 2012, when he called Israel a "cancerous tumour" and vowed to support anyone confronting it.

He also warned against any US strikes on Iran over its nuclear programme, saying the US would be damaged "10 times over".


https://news.sky.com/story/iran-willing-to-negotiate-with-anyone-except-us-says-supreme-leader-11910532

Todd
01-17-2020, 07:59 AM
Iran ain't Iraq. People forget these aren't a bunch of tribal Arabs with no national heritage. Persian heritage is a proud and united one. Iran would be one of the more reasonable nations to negotiate with. Hope Trump figures this out.

nikcers
01-17-2020, 09:18 AM
Iran is so sad now that their beloved commander is fired.

Slave Mentality
01-17-2020, 10:30 AM
Iran is so sad now that their beloved commander is fired killed.

FTFY. Makes much more sense now, doesn't it? You are welcome.

nikcers
01-17-2020, 10:40 AM
FTFY. Makes much more sense now, doesn't it? You are welcome.
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Brian4Liberty
01-17-2020, 10:52 AM
Right on cue, we will start hearing more about the Ayatollah Khamenei...


...Little did they know they could create a new enemy any time they want, with the full support of the mainstream media.

Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Russia, those would all work. One day it’s Gaddafi, then Arafat, then Saddam, the next Assad (I and II). In Iran, demons everywhere. First the Ayatollah Khomeini, then Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, then Soleimani, and next will probably be the Ayatollah Khamenei.
...

dannno
01-17-2020, 11:22 AM
Well, I'm now convinced..

Iran: Was Khomeini CIA?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA)

dannno
01-17-2020, 11:25 AM
Iran ain't Iraq. People forget these aren't a bunch of tribal Arabs with no national heritage. Persian heritage is a proud and united one. Iran would be one of the more reasonable nations to negotiate with. Hope Trump figures this out.

The guy Trump assassinated was responsible for torturing and killing over 1,600 Iranians protesting their government in the streets.

We have threads on here documenting hundreds or more Iranians protesting in the street talking about how their government is tyrannical and Trump actually cares about them because he helped slay their most corrupt and violent overlord.

These people could be imprisoned and killed for doing that..

It's showing massive amounts of disrespect to the people of Iran by supporting their totalitarian regime.

The idea that Trump doesn't want to negotiate with them and that he doesn't want Iran to be the best Iran they can be is ludicrous.

All this shows is how out of touch the Ayatollah is with his people.

Warlord
01-17-2020, 11:34 AM
Well, I'm now convinced..

Iran: Was Khomeini CIA?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA)

That's a long essay full of speculation. I'm not convinced..

Brian4Liberty
01-17-2020, 11:35 AM
Well, I'm now convinced..

Iran: Was Khomeini CIA?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA)

You do know those are two different Ayatollahs?

RonZeplin
01-17-2020, 11:52 AM
Homegrown Iranian Marxist Terrorists.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Firan-interlink.org%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FRudy-Giuliani-Mojahedin-Khalq-.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

dannno
01-17-2020, 12:13 PM
You do know those are two different Ayatollahs?

Khameini, Khomeini, both sound like CIA to me at this point.

Origanalist
01-17-2020, 12:26 PM
Well, I'm now convinced..

Iran: Was Khomeini CIA?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA)




You do know those are two different Ayatollahs?

At this point, what difference does it make?

https://www.minnpost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_detail/images/articles/ClintonBenghaziHearing640.jpg?fit=640%2C500&strip=all

Sammy
01-17-2020, 12:38 PM
Well, I'm now convinced..

Iran: Was Khomeini CIA?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?196935-Iran-Was-Khomeini-CIA)

Khomeini is dead since the late 80s.

dannno
01-17-2020, 01:17 PM
Khomeini is dead since the late 80s.

Ya, but if Khomeini was CIA, then Khameini is definitely CIA.

oyarde
01-17-2020, 01:31 PM
So much for Trump's strategy/3d chess, etc. :rolleyes:



https://news.sky.com/story/iran-willing-to-negotiate-with-anyone-except-us-says-supreme-leader-11910532

Why would anyone want to negotiate with the Persians and for what ? I say leave them to the lovely sermons , lift sanctions and move on in the current century .

Swordsmyth
01-17-2020, 03:30 PM
You do know those are two different Ayatollahs?
One CIA asset would choose another as his successor.

Swordsmyth
01-17-2020, 03:31 PM
Trump offers peace talks and Iran refuses.

But Iran is the good guy?

Warlord
01-17-2020, 03:38 PM
Trump offers peace talks and Iran refuses.

But Iran is the good guy?

They rightly told him to get fucked.

nikcers
01-17-2020, 03:45 PM
Trump offers peace talks and Iran refuses.

But Iran is the good guy?

People who chant death to America are the good guys if you want death to America.

Swordsmyth
01-17-2020, 03:47 PM
They rightly told him to get $#@!ed.
LOL

Warmongers are good as long as they are anti-American?

dannno
01-17-2020, 03:47 PM
They rightly told him to get fucked.

And they trust Europe???

They are either CIA or they are retarded.

Trump had the opportunity to bomb them to oblivion, and he stepped back and gave them a peace offering.

Europe has no interest in the well being of the Iranian public.

The Iranian public are demonstrating against their dictators and many of them favor Trump for helping remove a violent dictator overlord of their from the planet.

Swordsmyth
01-17-2020, 03:49 PM
People who chant death to America are the good guys if you want death to America.
It is becoming clearer that many leftarians are anti-Americans first, last and always.

They want America destroyed more than they want peace or liberty.

Warlord
01-17-2020, 03:52 PM
And they trust Europe???

They are either CIA or they are retarded.

Trump had the opportunity to bomb them to oblivion, and he stepped back and gave them a peace offering.

Europe has no interest in the well being of the Iranian public.

The Iranian public are demonstrating against their dictators and many of them favor Trump for helping remove a violent dictator overlord of their from the planet.

He calls Europe 'servants' of America.

dannno
01-17-2020, 04:01 PM
He calls Europe 'servants' of America.

He has it backwards, the US was a servant to the European bankers and oligarchs. But not anymore. Not since Trump.

Trump is not on their team. Trump is an enemy to the European oligarchs.

The Iranian regime is choosing to align with the European oligarchs and the deep state, when their people want exactly the opposite.

Brian4Liberty
01-17-2020, 11:38 PM
Ya, but if Khomeini was CIA, then Khameini is definitely CIA.


One CIA asset would choose another as his successor.

Is this some kind of Q thing?

Swordsmyth
01-17-2020, 11:42 PM
Is this some kind of Q thing?
Q has implied as much but I was a believer in the Iran/CIA theory before I heard of Q.

That thread about it began in 2009 so it's definitely older than Q.