Trump retweets QAnon, Let us review Pizzagate

[James_Madison_Lives]

-Media outlets have described QAnon as an "offshoot" of the widely discredited and debunked[30] Pizzagate conspiracy theory.[31]" Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

Ok so let's go there. What did Pizzagate REALLY say?

Trump just retweeted a 'QAnon' conspiracy-theory hashtag to his 68 million followers (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-retweeted-qanon-hashtag-to-his-68-million-followers-2019-12)



https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@munkle/the-pizzagate-images-never-ever-discussed-by-the-fake-news-media

The Pizzagate Images You Will Never See in the "Fake News" Media


The irony of the mainstream media's relentless campaign to brand "Pizzagate" as "fake news" is that it only serves to raise suspicions. Anyone with an Internet connection can see the images (https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/) and emails for themselves, and see the glaring omissions from the media's representation of the affair.

But first, just what is Pizzagate? Here the mainstream media gives itself away even further by seeming to coordinate on false talking points. Pizzagate, the mighty Wurlitzers of the media reiterate, is nothing more than an incorrigible gaggle of conspiracy theorists who believe that a child sex-slave ring is being run out of the basement of a Washington DC pizza shop.

Nevermind that this has never been the contention. Nor that this is preposterous.

The communications and exchanges between Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign manager, John Podesta, his brother Tony, and their circle of friends are far more ominous than this outlandish idea. These are the communications linked to Wikileaks' publication of the Podesta emails (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/) last October.

It turns out that this circle of friends has a penchant for sexually-loaded images (https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@rebelskum/james-alefantis-once-public-instagram-jimmycomet-now-preserved-on-steemit-blockchain) of children, even infants. One photograph sent around by James Alefantis, the owner of the Washington DC pizza shop at the center of attention, is of an infant with the caption: "Why does daddy like butt?" and "#whatwhatinthebutt."

Instagram social media post from James Alefantis' "jimmycomet" account
https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/image9-11.png?w=591&h=567
That is one Pizzagate image you will never, ever see, along with many others, in the Washington Post, USA Today, or the New York Times.
Alefantis has been named by GQ as one of the "50 Most Powerful People in Washington." (http://www.gq.com/gallery/50-most-powerful-people-in-washington-dc) If you ask how a pizza shop owner becomes one of the 50 most powerful people in DC, so have many others. It turns out he is no ordinary shop owner, but the former long-time partner of David Brock, (http://time.com/4028459/david-brock-hillary-clinton-media-matters/) of Media Matters, a hotwire straight into the heart of the Democratic Party establishment.

https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/kimnoble.png?w=406&h=512
https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/image2-1.png?w=613&h=310

Lest the Pizzagate "debunking" media try to claim that no one knows if the Instagram account on which these shocking comments and images are posted even really belongs to Alefantis, Alefantis has acknowledged the account. In perhaps a perfect mini-morality tale, Alefantis was attempting, in an interview with Megyn Kelly of Fox News, to dispel the idea that the account contained anything untoward, by addressing a less incendiary Instagram. Understandably Alefantis never mentioned the afore-mentioned one. In the process, Alefantis unwittingly forever established that he and “jimmycomet,” the handle for the account, are one and the same.

It is interesting to note that jimmycomet’s avatar, the image one chooses to represent an account, is of a bust of Antinous (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinous), the 13 year-old boy lover of the Roman emperor Hadrian, when Hadrian was 48. The late Classical scholar Royston Lambert called the sculpture one of the "most elevated and ideal monuments to pederastic love of the whole ancient world."

In the interview, a sympathetic and incredulous Megyn Kelly, feigning astonishment at the unfairness of it all, declined to ask Alefantis the meaning of “Why does daddy like butt?” Kelly is nothing if not a competent journalist, and certainly was familiar with the entirely of the Pizzagate images (https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/), which include paintings of children bound, gagged, and hanging by their wrists from the ceiling, by the Podestas’ artist friend. The Podesta emails show that the brothers are dinner party friends (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893) of the artist, whose dinner party themes include “Spirit Cooking.” According to a playful performance art piece, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E) Spirit Cooking calls for mixing "breast milk with fresh sperm milk."
Megyn Kelly nterview with James Alefantis

Is Pizzagate a victimless crime? This is a defense employed by the stoutest defenders of Podesta, Alefantis, and their circle of friends. Bad taste is not a crime, and certainly does not warrant smearing someone’s reputation as a pedophile. To be sure, a blogger in Massachusetts, who goes by the handle Titus Frost, has said that he and hacker associates have come across hidden files of child pornography (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnW7OT6Dkuw&feature=youtu.be) at the website for Comet Ping Pong, the name of Alefantis’ pizza shop.

The mere possession of child porn is a felony, on the reasoning that children had to have been abused in the making of it, and so a crime exists. Frost also claims he has sent the files and information to the Washington DC police, to an “Officer Marcus Stevens.” Frost has posted what he says is a screenshot of email correspondence between himself and Stevens.

Some say this is thin gruel. How do we know Frost is telling the truth? But in another interesting coincidence, days after Titus Frost posted his claim online for a large audience, one Edgar Welch famously walked into (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/comet-pizza-gunman-to-appear-at-plea-deal-hearing-friday-morning/2017/03/23/e12c91ba-0986-11e7-b77c-0047d15a24e0_story.html?utm_term=.468e5c0767c6) Comet Pizza with a rifle, fired one shot, and gave himself up. That shot just happened to hit, of all things, the company computer. Doubtless the computer which was in the closet has been destroyed, and a brand new one sits in its place. A client computer, as this would be called, can yield all manner of information on data which has resided on it or passed through it.

Purported screenshot of email correspondence with Washington DC police over child porn images
https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3687/33046338761_d6fc68ffa5_z.jpg
Thus the conveniently-timed destruction of possible evidence served a dual purpose, whether by design or not. A two-fer. The shooting allows the media to link Pizzagate research with violence. Which it immediately did. The Washington Post intoned menacingly "Pizzagate: From rumor, to hashtag, to gunfire in D.C." (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pizzagate-from-rumor-to-hashtag-to-gunfire-in-dc/2016/12/06/4c7def50-bbd4-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.b76870dcefb2)

Hillary Clinton jumped in with an attack on citizens asking questions about the odd emails and images, tweeting about the "real consequences of fake news." (https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/831377792893849600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2F2017%2F02%2F14 %2Fmichael-flynn-hillary-clinton-tweet%2F) This assault on First Amendment speech surpassed even George W. Bush's warning after 9/11 to "let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories," i.e. those indicting government officials. Now the inconvenient speech was firmly linked to an attack.
Clinton tweet
https://steemitimages.com/640x0/http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/02/14/09/3D31C82800000578-4221958-image-a-3_1487063912566.jpg
It is tangential, but interesting, that Clinton was the one who intervened on behalf of an American woman who was arrested, prosecuted, and convicted in Haiti, after the 2010 earthquake, for attempting to smuggle 33 Haitian children (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/02/laura_silsby_haiti_orphans_wou.html) out of the country, into the neighboring Dominican Republic, which happens to be a playground for pedophiles. (http://www.ijdh.org/2010/10/topics/womens-issues/sex-trafficking-of-haitian-kids-exploding/) In an unusual interference in another country’s criminal justice process for non-political prisoners, Clinton deployed Bill Clinton to plead, successfully, for the release of Laura Silsby.
Furthermore, with respect to the rejoinder that Pizzagate is a victimless crime, although there may be no correlation, it is nevertheless true that the immediate area of Washington DC is by far the missing children capital (https://v/) of the country, most notably the northern Virginia county of Fairfax. Fairfax, VA, has almost as many children reported missing in 2015-2016 as all of Los Angeles, despite having but a tiny fraction of the population.

John Podesta has shown open sympathy for child rapists, as revealed by the emails. Podesta in one email wrote of convicted child rapist and former Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@munkle/the-pizzagate-images-never-ever-discussed-by-the-fake-news-media#), just before he was sentenced: "Might be time for Dennis to vanish to some undisclosed Japanese Island." (https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11508)
https://steemitimages.com/640x0/https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2824/33365446184_16ac71a65d_z.jpg
Thus we come to the central question: Why is the mainstream media working so hard to steer opinion on what should be no more than a routine criminal investigation, to ensure that allegations of possession of child porn among the parties is not true? And to debunk the rest of the allegations made in Pizzagte? All law enforcement need do is investigate and, if there is nothing, issue a statement putting it all to rest.

As the Constitutional watchdog for government, the media, the press, is the institution which is letting America down most, by flat-out lying about everything to do with Pizzagate. Politicians we can expect to be slimy. It’s bad enough some of the allegations may be true. But worse, perhaps, is the brutal betrayal of trust of some or our oldest and most prestigious institutions.

[James_Madison_Lives]

So if the president retweets a "conspiracy theory" is it still a conspiracy theory? Or is he trying to tell us something?

[Swordsmyth]

So if the president retweets a "conspiracy theory" is it still a conspiracy theory? Or is he trying to tell us something?
He's telling us something.

[Zippyjuan]

Even Alex Jones dropped Pizzagate after that guy went in and shot up the place looking for the basement they didn't have. "It is all in fun until somebody gets hurt!"

[Swordsmyth]

Even Alex Jones dropped Pizzagate after that guy went in and shot up the place looking for the basement they didn't have. "It is all in fun until somebody gets hurt!"
That's why the other side arranged that event, they want to suppress the truth.
dannno has educated you many times on the facts, like the fact that they did have a basement.

[James_Madison_Lives]

Even Alex Jones dropped Pizzagate after that guy went in and shot up the place looking for the basement they didn't have. "It is all in fun until somebody gets hurt!"

Yea he fired one shot which just happened to hit the store computer with child porn on it, destroying evidence. Lucky shot hey?

[Zippyjuan]

That's why the other side arranged that event, they want to suppress the truth.
dannno has educated you many times on the facts, like the fact that they did have a basement.

Wrong. They have another store two units down which has a basement. Comet Pizza does not.

[Swordsmyth]

Wrong. They have another store two units down which has a basement. Comet Pizza does not.
Wrong.

[Zippyjuan]

Wrong.

Prove it.

[Swordsmyth]

Prove it.
I'll let dannno do that if he feels like repeating himself, he's already done so multiple times.

[vita3]

Shame on Trump admin for not arresting Ghislaine Maxwell

[Zippyjuan]

I'll let dannno do that if he feels like repeating himself, he's already done so multiple times.

I see. You fail yet again to support a claim when challenged. Why am I not surprised?

Alex Jones: https://money.cnn.com/2017/03/30/media/alex-jones-apology-pizzagate-james-alefantis/index.html


Jones eventually got to the retraction, acknowledging a basic fact that proves Pizzagate false. The conspiracy theory has held that the supposed sex ring was run out Comet's basement, when in actuality the restaurant doesn't even have one.

"Yes, I retract that about Ping Pong pizza. There's not a damn basement. I don't think Alefantis is a pedophile. I've already said all that," Jones said.

[Swordsmyth]

I see. You fail yet again to support a claim when challenged. Why am I not surprised?
I don't have to repeat what dannno has already proven just because you ignore it.
You didn't prove your claims either.

[AngryCanadian]

Even Alex Jones dropped Pizzagate after that guy went in and shot up the place looking for the basement they didn't have. "It is all in fun until somebody gets hurt!"

Pretty much i think this pizzagate is a bit overblown.. Even if some elites are doing this i highly doubt they would post things like this wide publicly.

[dannno]

Wrong. They have another store two units down which has a basement. Comet Pizza does not.

LOL, now you're really stretching it. It was two units down, in the same exact building. It's all the same basement, it is where they kept the tomato sauce for Comet Pizza. I looked up the menu for the other restaurant, and I didn't see any menu items with tomatoes. So clearly they were keeping all of the tomato sauce for Comet Pizza from annually harvested organic tomatoes in whatever basement they had access to, however they had access to it.

It is also a tunnel system, not just a basement. If you watched that video you yourself posted you would see all of the stores have access to the tunnel system from the back of the units through a separate door, and may or may not have access otherwise from the inside of the units as well.

[James_Madison_Lives]

What is this creepy chit in Podesta's emails, 50 and 60 something year old adults getting excitement about little kids in hot tubs and such? Why wouldn't the FBI seize his hard drives?

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.newnationalist.ne t%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F11%2FCapture-3.gif%3Fresize%3D606%252C340&f=1&nofb=1

[jon4liberty]

Shame on Trump admin for not arresting Ghislaine Maxwell

She is hiding in Israel. Trump was good friends with her.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump was good friends with her.
???

[jon4liberty]

???

I encourage everyone to duckduckgo trump maxwell and see all the different events and photo ops. Just imagine all the times that weren't photographed

[Swordsmyth]

I encourage everyone to duckduckgo trump maxwell and see all the different events and photo ops. Just imagine all the times that weren't photographed

That's not proof of him being good friends with her.

People in that strata always put on a show in public.

[jon4liberty]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-rape-accusation-underage-girl-claim-what-happened-sexual-assault-allegation-a7354111.html

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-rape-accusation-underage-girl-claim-what-happened-sexual-assault-allegation-a7354111.html
That girl was shown to not even exist.

[Philhelm]

Even Alex Jones dropped Pizzagate after that guy went in and shot up the place looking for the basement they didn't have. "It is all in fun until somebody gets hurt!"

He went to Comet Ping Pong and shot into a computer, if I recall correctly. He certainly didn't "shoot up the place." In addition, Pizzagate likely spawned the "fake news" mantra, before it was co-opted by the right.

[Zippyjuan]

He went to Comet Ping Pong and shot into a computer, if I recall correctly. He certainly didn't "shoot up the place." In addition, Pizzagate likely spawned the "fake news" mantra, before it was co-opted by the right.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pizzagate-shooter-sentenced-what-to-know-about-the-comet-ping-pong-conspiracies


Welch walked into Comet Ping Pong armed with a knife, AR-15 assault weapon and a revolver. Welch said that he had driven to the pizzeria from Salisbury, N.C., in order to investigate online conspiracy theories of child sex slaves being held in the restaurant.

Welch fired his gun multiple times when he came upon a locked storage closet.

After finding no children held against their will, Welch surrendered to police. He said “that he had read online that the Comet restaurant was harboring child sex slaves and that he wanted to see for himself if they were there,” according to the arrest affidavit.

“[Welch] stated that he was armed to help rescue them,” it said.


He said he "came to D.C. with the intent of helping people I believed were in dire need of assistance, and to bring an end to a corruption that I truly felt was harming innocent lives."

"It was never my intention to harm or frighten innocent lives, but I realize now just how foolish and reckless my decision was," Welch wrote.

[Philhelm]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/pizzagate-shooter-sentenced-what-to-know-about-the-comet-ping-pong-conspiracies

I don't think that it quite qualifies as "shooting up the place," in the colloquial sense. Regardless, there were no casualties.

There are definitely some unanswered questions regarding Alefantis (#chickenlover), Majestic Ape/Heavy Breathing, the artwork with obvious innuendo, etc., but I don't think that there are children locked in the basement of a pizza restaurant.

[jmdrake]

That's why the other side arranged that event, they want to suppress the truth.
dannno has educated you many times on the facts, like the fact that they did have a basement.

False claims by dannno does not evidence make.

[jmdrake]

He went to Comet Ping Pong and shot into a computer, if I recall correctly. He certainly didn't "shoot up the place." In addition, Pizzagate likely spawned the "fake news" mantra, before it was co-opted by the right.

Seriously? Your argument is that he "only" shot a computer so its okay? Seriously?

[Swordsmyth]

False claims by @dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908) does not evidence make.
Your assertion doesn't make his claims false.

[Swordsmyth]

Seriously? Your argument is that he "only" shot a computer so its okay? Seriously?
Nobody said it was okay, the argument is that he was used by the other side to destroy evidence.

[jmdrake]

Your assertion doesn't make his claims false.

True. But a lack of actual evidence does.

[Swordsmyth]

True. But a lack of actual evidence does.
It would if it was lacking.

[dannno]

Seriously? Your argument is that he "only" shot a computer so its okay? Seriously?

It was an obvious false flag. Someone reported their computer server to the FBI for hosting child porn behind a password protected barrier, and this guy came by and shot the computer's hard drive that had the child porn server on it. They were getting rid of evidence and using it to make themselves the victim all in one fell swoop. Obviously the guy who shot the computer was an agent of the deep state, not a pizzagate fanatic.. He was also an actor.

Also, Alefantis admitted he had a basement where he stored the tomato sauce years ago, then after pizzagate came out, he said it didn't have a basement. Which is it??

Maybe you and zippy should get a hotel room.

[dannno]

Here is the evidence that the false flag deep state agent shot the hard drive on the computer:

https://steemitimages.com/640x0/http://pizzagate.wiki/images/d/d1/CPP_bullet_hole.jpg


Sad to see jmdrake turn into a coincidence theorist.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBsJjwoW4AAmXG-.jpg

[jon4liberty]

Hey SS the courts unsealed something....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

Israel's pawn

[jmdrake]

It was an obvious false flag. Someone reported their computer server to the FBI for hosting child porn behind a password protected barrier, and this guy came by and shot the computer's hard drive that had the child porn server on it. They were getting rid of evidence and using it to make themselves the victim all in one fell swoop. Obviously the guy who shot the computer was an agent of the deep state, not a pizzagate fanatic.. He was also an actor.

Also, Alefantis admitted he had a basement where he stored the tomato sauce years ago, then after pizzagate came out, he said it didn't have a basement. Which is it??

Maybe you and zippy should get a hotel room.

:rolleyes:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

He terrified an employee who inadvertently returned to the restaurant during his "investigation," briefly pointing a gun at him before the employee ran for his life. Welch also shot through the lock of a closet, damaging a computer. Nobody was injured, and he ultimately surrendered to the police.

He shot through the lock of a closet thinking he it would lead him to the non-existent basement so that he could rescue children that weren't there. Even Alex Jones backed of this story.

[dannno]

:rolleyes:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

He terrified an employee who inadvertently returned to the restaurant during his "investigation," briefly pointing a gun at him before the employee ran for his life. Welch also shot through the lock of a closet, damaging a computer. Nobody was injured, and he ultimately surrendered to the police.

He shot through the lock of a closet thinking he it would lead him to the non-existent basement so that he could rescue children that weren't there. Even Alex Jones backed of this story.

Wow, thank you fakestream news!!!

So he shot a lock, and it just happened to go through the hard drive of the computer on the other side of the door, contents of which had been turned over for investigation of child porn.. of which many of us here were informed of and knew about and were awaiting the results.. and suddenly this guy goes in and shoots it.

Sorry, no reasonable person believes that bullshit.

You are now crowned forum coincidence theorist of 2020..

[jon4liberty]

Bump
Where is SS?

[kpitcher]

If there was reason to believe there was actual evidence of a crime then a single bullet shot through a hard drive wouldn't stop forensics. There were files retrieved from hundreds of drives in the Trade Tower rubble. What happened to that computer?

[Swordsmyth]

Hey SS the courts unsealed something....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

Israel's pawn

That's already been discussed, It was not the Lolita Express, Trump caught a ride home.

You've got nothing.

[Swordsmyth]

If there was reason to believe there was actual evidence of a crime then a single bullet shot through a hard drive wouldn't stop forensics. There were files retrieved from hundreds of drives in the Trade Tower rubble. What happened to that computer?
It made a great excuse for the establishment to claim the hard drive had been destroyed and the stupid public will accept it.

[RPtotheWH]

Hey SS the courts unsealed something....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

Israel's pawn

The problem with news today is you have 20 useless paragraphs that say nothing related to the headline, so you can get to this 1 paragraph with information:


The new flight manifests show Trump joining Epstein, Epstein’s brother Mark, Ghislaine Maxwell, and others on the flight from Palm Beach International Airport to Newark Liberty International Airport on Jan. 5, 1997, supporting Mark Epstein's previous recollection of Trump flying on Epstein’s jet.

Which says the same thing that we already knew, Trump has caught return flights from Florida but nothing directly linking him to the island.

[Swordsmyth]

The problem with news today is you have 20 useless paragraphs that say nothing related to the headline, so you can get to this 1 paragraph with information:



Which says the same thing that we already knew, Trump has caught return flights from Florida but nothing directly linking him to the island.
Trump would not have had Epstein arrested and would not be giving the nod to Q if he had anything to fear from the Epstein scandal.

[r3volution 3.0]

So if the president retweets a "conspiracy theory" is it still a conspiracy theory? Or is he trying to tell us something?


He's telling us something.

Please believe and follow the random internet celebrity guy who rationalizes everything I do?


It was two units down, in the same exact building. It's all the same basement, it is where they kept the tomato sauce for Comet Pizza. I looked up the menu for the other restaurant, and I didn't see any menu items with tomatoes. So clearly they were keeping all of the tomato sauce for Comet Pizza from annually harvested organic tomatoes in whatever basement they had access to, however they had access to it.

Glad to see you're not falling for the Deep State's ploy to get you distracted with trivia like massive deficits, creeping socialism, etc.

Keep your eyes on the prize dannno.

Find out whether they were San Marzanos or Romas; the future of the republic is at stake!

[Swordsmyth]

Please believe and follow the random internet celebrity guy who rationalizes everything I do?



Glad to see you're not falling for the Deep State's ploy to get you distracted with trivia like massive deficits, creeping socialism, etc.

Keep your eyes on the prize dannno.

Find out whether they were San Marzanos or Romas; the future of the republic is at stake!
Exposing and bringing down the evil cabal that is behind the deficits and socialism is the only way to end them.

You are the one distracted with relative trivia and not hacking at the root of the tree.

[r3volution 3.0]

Exposing and bringing down the evil cabal that is behind the deficits and socialism is the only way to end them.

You are the one distracted with relative trivia and not hacking at the root of the tree.

The purpose of all Deep State narratives is to create imaginary monsters for Trump to heroically slay.

Emmanuel Goldstein

[Swordsmyth]

The purpose of all Deep State narratives is to create imaginary monsters for Trump to heroically slay.

Emmanuel Goldstein

That's the party line, put out by the deepstate.

[r3volution 3.0]

That's the party line, put out by the deepstate.

That's the obvious reality to everyone not part of the personality cult.

[Swordsmyth]

That's the obvious reality to everyone not part of the personality cult.
Wrong.

The deepstate was glaringly obvious long before Trump came along.

You attempting to deny it is just stupid.

[r3volution 3.0]

Wrong.

The deepstate was glaringly obvious long before Trump came along.

You attempting to deny it is just stupid.

That there are and have always been politically powerful lobbies outside formal government is obvious.

The myth (encapsulated in the term "Deep State") is that Trump is fighting these people.

P.S. I'll add that Trump-propaganda victims also misunderstand the character of the "Deep State." As a class, the political elites aren't baby diddling, cannibalistic satanists; that's the stuff of fairly tales for (political) children. They're just greedy, amoral SOBs who don't mind wrecking lives to make more money, stay in office, maintain social status, etc. They're also not an organized cabal in the way Trumpsters think. The relentless movement in the wrong direction in politics isn't the result of some cunning plan. It's the natural and unintended result of selfish political actors pursuing their selfish goals - the invisible hand's evil twin.

[jmdrake]

Wow, thank you fakestream news!!!

So he shot a lock, and it just happened to go through the hard drive of the computer on the other side of the door, contents of which had been turned over for investigation of child porn.. of which many of us here were informed of and knew about and were awaiting the results.. and suddenly this guy goes in and shoots it.

Sorry, no reasonable person believes that bull$#@!.

You are now crowned forum coincidence theorist of 2020..

When Alex Jones backs away from a story for being too crazy...it could be that it's too crazy. But maybe AJ is a coincidence theorist now too. Anything is possible.

[Swordsmyth]

When Alex Jones backs away from a story for being too crazy...it could be that it's too crazy. But maybe AJ is a coincidence theorist now too. Anything is possible.
You have so much faith in AJ that you trust he wasn't backing away because it was real?
He could easily be controlled opposition or have been threatened.

The facts speak for themselves.

[Swordsmyth]

That there are and have always been politically powerful lobbies outside formal government is obvious.

The myth (encapsulated in the term "Deep State") is that Trump is fighting these people.

P.S. I'll add that Trump-propaganda victims also misunderstand the character of the "Deep State." As a class, the political elites aren't baby diddling, cannibalistic satanists; that's the stuff of fairly tales for (political) children. They're just greedy, amoral SOBs who don't mind wrecking lives to make more money, stay in office, maintain social status, etc. They're also not an organized cabal in the way Trumpsters think. The relentless movement in the wrong direction in politics isn't the result of some cunning plan. It's the natural and unintended result of selfish political actors pursuing their selfish goals - the invisible hand's evil twin.
^^^THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE DEEPSTATE^^^

[dannno]

When Alex Jones backs away from a story for being too crazy...it could be that it's too crazy. But maybe AJ is a coincidence theorist now too. Anything is possible.

Alex Jones is currently being sued by alleged parents of the sandy hook victims, he could lose millions of dollars, maybe more. He backed off on that one too. You don’t think there was anything fishy about sandy hook??

Sometimes he has to take certain positions for legal reasons.

[r3volution 3.0]

^^^THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE DEEPSTATE^^^

I'm sure the owners of Raytheon et al are most pleased to have you all chasing down pizza sauce rather than questioning military spending.

But, please, carry on, don't let me interrupt your playtime.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm sure the owners of Raytheon et al are most pleased to have you all chasing down pizza sauce rather than questioning military spending.

But, please, carry on, don't let me interrupt your playtime.
It's easy to do both, you are the one telling us not to do one of those.

The deepstate thanks you.

[r3volution 3.0]

It's easy to do both

Judging by the near total absence of criticism of giant military budgets from the Trump party, evidently not...

I'd wager that GOP media outlets have spent far more time merely saying the words "Deep State" than talking about excessive DoD spending. And why is this so? Because the Deep State narrative has created a personality cult around mythical Deep State fighter Trump, such that anyone who criticizes Trump is accused of being a member of a Deep State. You see how that works?

[Swordsmyth]

Judging by the near total absence of criticism of giant military budgets from the Trump party, evidently not...

I'd wager that GOP media outlets have spent far more time merely saying the words "Deep State" than talking about excessive DoD spending. And why is this so? Because the Deep State narrative has created a personality cult around mythical Deep State fighter Trump, such that anyone who criticizes Trump is accused of being a member of a Deep State. You see how that works?
The average Republican would not be complaining about the military budget without the fight against the deepstate, at least not until all other elements of the budget were cut first, they are not being distracted.

Getting them to support bringing the troops home is the first step to getting them to support military budget cuts but what will really do it is the revelation that the deepstate has bee stealing most of the military budget.

The deepstate is the root of the tree and you want us to ignore it.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html


InfoWars' Alex Jones is a 'performance artist playing a character', says his lawyer

Notorious US broadcaster Alex Jones is a “performance artist” and his on air persona is an act, according to his lawyer.

Mr Jones runs the controversial Infowars website, which is known for propagating conspiracy theories and its support of Donald Trump.

But Mr Jones is now embroiled in a custody battle with his estranged wife, Kelly Jones, with whom he has three children. She said some of Mr Jones’s on-air rants – for which he is renowned – are evidence of him being “not a stable” father.

However, Randall Wilhite, Mr Jones’s attorney, said the behaviour was merely an act.

“He’s playing a character. He is a performance artist.” Mr Wilhite said, according to the Austin-American Statesman.

The claim is likely to cause some confusion among Mr Jones’s fans, who have closely followed his musings. These included unfounded assertions that the Sandy Hook massacre and Boston bombings were hoaxes, Hillary Clinton should be jailed and that Barack Obama founded Isis.

But Mr Jones is not just any shock jock – his listeners are believed to include President Trump, who appeared on his show in December 2015, several months after he announced his candidacy. With millions of listeners a month, Infowars is credited with galvanising a large amount of support for Mr Trump during last year’s election.

Yet Mr Jones’s former wife claimed he was unhinged.

According to the Statesman, Ms Jones told a pre-trial hearing: “He’s not a stable person. He says he wants to break Alec Baldwin’s neck. He wants J-Lo to get raped.”

More at link.

[James_Madison_Lives]

I'm sure the owners of Raytheon et al are most pleased to have you all chasing down pizza sauce rather than questioning military spending.

But, please, carry on, don't let me interrupt your playtime.


The corruption to the core at the very top including pedophilia is part and parcel of the Deep State corruption which is behind the assassination of JFK and 9/11. That is why no one is surprised when the Pentagon declines to investigate hundreds of child porn cases in its own ranks.

Pentagon declined to investigate hundreds of purchases of child pornography (https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/upshot/pentagon-declined-investigate-hundreds-purchases-child-pornography.html)

[r3volution 3.0]

The corruption to the core at the very top including pedophilia is part and parcel of the Deep State corruption which is behind the assassination of JFK and 9/11. That is why no one is surprised when the Pentagon declines to investigate hundreds of child porn cases in its own ranks.

Pentagon declined to investigate hundreds of purchases of child pornography (https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/upshot/pentagon-declined-investigate-hundreds-purchases-child-pornography.html)

Good thing Trump's sticking it to them by giving them more money..

[AngryCanadian]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html



More at link.

Well i have often sen AJ as controlled oppostion i remember a time when AJ nearly scared an American town to death with his lies that the Russians were invading America.

[AngryCanadian]

Good thing Trump's sticking it to them by giving them more money..

Yup or starting a war for them.

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1225465404505481217

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[dannno]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1283827762692681734.html

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You're not ready for this thread.


People laughed at #Pizzagate. They aren’t laughing anymore.


#Humantrafficking is real.


Elite #pedophilia is real. #Organharvesting is real.


It’s not a new phenomenon. It’s not something that just started. It’s been going on for YEARS.

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It’s not something that is just going on in the US. It’s happening all over the world.


It involves #Hollywood. It involves #politicians on both sides. It involves the rich. People you look up to are involved.

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And I get it. It’s hard to wrap your head around what’s going on. It’s hard to imagine something so dark and disgusting going on right under your nose.


It’s hard to imagine something so evil is happening to our children.


It’s easy to laugh it off as some #conspiracytheory.

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Oh no, not my favorite actor, singer, or politician. Oh no, not #HillaryClinton. She can’t be involved. She was going to save us from #Trump.


The International Labor Organization estimates 40.3 MILLION #humantrafficking victims GLOBALLY.

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If you think this is still a hoax or don’t want to come to terms with the fact that an #Elite #Pedo ring exists, ponder these things:


⭐️Everyone knew about #JeffreyEpstein and his love for underage girls.

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⭐️People were calling #LittleSaintJames "#PedophileIsland" since #Epstein purchased the island in 1998.


⭐️With that knowledge, why did #BillClinton and #BarakObama visit Epstein’s #pedo Island? Multiple times?

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⭐️Why did the locals report seeing dozens of young kids being taken across there for years?


⭐️Why was #BillGates a regular visitor there?


⭐️#PrinceAndrew…. Do I need to say more and why is The Queen going around threatening anyone to run the story if it’s not true?
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⭐️You mean to tell me that all these prominent men and women went to this #pedo island for one big party? Knowing what they knew about him? It wasn’t a secret.


⭐️What was #Epstein using the underground tunnels for?


⭐️Who was #GhislaineMaxwell?

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⭐️Did you know she owned a submarine company?
Why a submarine company?


⭐️Did you know she has her sub pilot license?
What could she possibly need a submarine pilot license for?

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⭐️Did you know that yachts with submarines were used to transport kidnapped children from Haiti to Epstein's pedophile Island?


⭐️What about #LauraSilsby? She caught in Haiti trying to KIDNAP 30 children. Clinton’s used executive order to bring her back without being charged.

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⭐️The kicker: Guess who changed their legal name and is in charge of #amberalert? #LauraSilsby. People who dig down that hole end up dying.


⭐️Did you know the #TerraMar project was founded by Clinton Foundation and was located on the Lynn De Rothschild property in Manhattan?

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⭐️#ChelseaClinton and #GhislaineMaxwell are reported to be very close and actually vacationed together. You mean to tell me that #Chelsea didn’t know about Ghislaine?


⭐️Remember when Chelsea’s wedding was paid for with money that was supposed to go to #Haiti?

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⭐️Why did #Hillary put #Ghislaine’s nephew in charge of key Middle East policy decisions when she ran the State Department? You know… the one overseeing US/Libya policy that got an ambassador killed.


⭐️What about the #Podesta Emails?

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⭐️What was up with the Podesta’s artwork?


⭐️Would you own any of that creepy “art”?


⭐️Why would #Obama buy $65,000 worth of tax payers money to have hot dogs fly in from Chicago for a private party?


⭐️Did you know that hotdog is a #trafficking codeword for young boys?

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⭐️Who is #JamesAlefantis?


⭐️A pizza restaurant owner in DC. Who happens to be named one of the most powerful people in DC. A man that owns a children's pizza place. A man that has close ties with the #Clintons, #Obama, #Epstein and many more.

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⭐️Have you seen his instagram? Oh you probably haven’t. You’re just now looking into everything.


⭐️Have you looked up the art that is in his pizza place?


⭐️You want your kids seeing that stuff?

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⭐️What about the dark web login to get into his site and order pizza that cost thousands of dollars? Oh wait, that was taken down.


⭐️What is a pizza place owner doing communicating with the White House?

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⭐️What about the Hollywood actor that walked into comet pizza and shot at a locked closet door? The same closet that housed his computer which ended up with a bullet through the hard drive. Odd.


⭐️What about #AnthonyWeiner? All the emails found on his laptop?

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⭐️You mean to tell me that his wife, #HumaAbedin, had no knowledge of what was going on?


⭐️#Huma and her friend #Hillary had NO clue about this 15 year old girl?


⭐️What about the folder titled “Life Insurance”?
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⭐️You know the one with the video titled "#Frazzledrip" with Huma and Hillary. You want nightmares, read about those videos!!


⭐️The same Huma and Hillary who 9 NYPD have “committed” suicide after watching a horrific video of them doing unspeakable things to little girl?

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⭐️Why have 57 former colleagues and associates ended up dead in the past 30 years? 15 have died of suicide. 8 died in a plane, car, or motorcycle accident and 14 have been found mysteriously murdered. I don’t even have 57 friends, let alone know 57 that mysteriously died.

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⭐️Why is #JamesComey’s daughter the lead prosecutor on the #Epstein sex trafficking case?


⭐️Former #CEO of #Reddit, #EllenPao admitted they Knew #Ghislaine supplied underage girls for Epstein and his #pedo buddies?

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⭐️The Norwegian #Royal Family implicated in #Epstein Scandal? Why? Not surprising considering Prince Andrew.


⭐️What about #Oprah’s mentor? #JohnofGod and #Weinstein. You mean to tell me Oprah didn’t know? Come on now.

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⭐️Have you even heard of the #NXIVM case? They were running a sex cult where #AllisonMack was arrested and indicted on federal charges related to sex trafficking.


⭐️The McMartin Preschool. The Franklin Coverup. #SethRich. #IsaacKappy. #Boystown. #TheFinders. The list goes on.

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⭐️#DenishHastert. Do you know him? You should. Good buddies with #Podesta.


⭐️#RobertMenendez. #MikeFolmer. Prominent democratic donor, #TerryBean. #DavidByrd. #GeorgeByrd. This runs deep and you’re going to be shocked at the ending. #TheGreatAwakening
I will be shocked if I'm not #banned soon. If that happens and you see me silent for awhile, don't write me off. I will be back slinging truth just as hard. I WILL NOT STAY SILENT.
#TruthMatters
#FuckPoliticalCorrectness
#Censorship
#shadowbanned

[PRB]

Wayfair is fake.

[Swordsmyth]

Wayfair is fake.

Leave the kids alone.

[TheCount]

Wayfair is fake.

yOu CaN bUy FuRnItUrE wItH kIdS iNsIdE oN tHe InTeRnEt!1!1! #pizzagate #adrenochrome #trump2020

[Swordsmyth]

yOu CaN bUy FuRnItUrE wItH kIdS iNsIdE oN tHe InTeRnEt!1!1! #pizzagate #adrenochrome #trump2020

Leave the kids alone.

[PRB]

Herman Cain was CEO of "Godfather" Pizza.

That's all you need to know.

[Swordsmyth]

Herman Cain was CEO of "Godfather" Pizza.

That's all you need to know.

Leave the kids alone.

[PRB]

Leave the kids alone.

sorry to break the facts to you, but Qanon is the one who brought up kids.

[dannno]

sorry to break the facts to you, but Qanon is the one who brought up kids.

Uh, ya, he brought up saving kids. And people attack him for it, which is pretty much the same as attacking children.

[PRB]

Uh, ya, he brought up saving kids. And people attack him for it, which is pretty much the same as attacking children.

not how it works, you dont' get to make up a boogeyman and dismiss anybody you don't like as the boogeyman enabler.

I am against molesting children, if you attack me you must be for it?

[dannno]

not how it works, you dont' get to make up a boogeyman and dismiss anybody you don't like as the boogeyman enabler.

I am against molesting children, if you attack me you must be for it?

Nobody made up anything except you.

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJn366hPg0

[Swordsmyth]

sorry to break the facts to you, but Qanon is the one who brought up kids.

Yes, people like you wanted to keep it a secret.

Leave the kids alone.

[PRB]

Yes, people like you wanted to keep it a secret.

Leave the kids alone.

Nope. I'm not a Catholic.

Try harder at lying.

[Swordsmyth]

Nope. I'm not a Catholic.

Try harder at lying.
Leave the kids alone.

[PRB]

Leave the kids alone.

I'm not Catholic. Stop lying and mentioning kids :)

[Swordsmyth]

I'm not Catholic. Stop lying and mentioning kids :)

Who said anything about Catholic?

Leave the kids alone.

[PRB]

Who said anything about Catholic?

Leave the kids alone.

I did.

[Swordsmyth]

I did.

Exactly, you are attempting to muddy the waters with irrelevancies.

Leave the kids alone.

[PRB]

Exactly, you are attempting to muddy the waters with irrelevancies.

Leave the kids alone.

Catholics are irrelevant???? WOW.