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Warlord
12-20-2019, 03:50 AM
“We’re gonna impeach the (expletive deleted).”

Thus did the member from Michigan, Rashida Tlaib, declare last January to be the goal of the 2019 House Democratic Caucus.

Wednesday night, Speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered the goods.

The House impeached President Donald Trump on a straight party-line vote. Not one Republican signed on to the most partisan impeachment in U.S. history.

Yet, as we head for trial in the Senate, Democrats seem to be having nervous second thoughts over what they have done.

Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called for the Senate to subpoena four new witnesses the House never heard. Nancy Pelosi signaled Wednesday night that she might not send over to the Senate the articles of impeachment the House had just approved.

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell took to the floor both Wednesday night and Thursday morning. To have the Senate, which is judge and jury of the impeachment charges, to start calling witnesses whom House prosecutors failed to pursue “could set a nightmarish precedent.”

Said McConnell, Schumer “would apparently like our chamber to do House Democrats’ homework for them.”

Schumer’s plea for new witnesses is an admission that the House’s case for impeaching Trump is inadequate and deficient and could prove wholly noncredible to the American people. After all, if you need more witnesses, you probably do not have the smoking gun.

The message sent by Pelosi’s call for more time before the trial, and Schumer’s call for more witnesses, is one of fear that not only could the House’s case for impeachment fail, it could be laughed out of the Senate. And the American people might be fine with that.

The Democratic Party has bet the ranch on the impeachment and removal of Trump for imperiling our “national security.” But are Schumer and Pelosi behaving as though the republic is in mortal peril?

Schumer’s call for new witnesses also underscores the thinness of Article I of the impeachment, Trump’s alleged “Abuse of Power.”

Beneath Article I, there is not a single crime listed — no treason, no bribery, no extortion, no high crimes.

What kind of impeachment is this, with not one crime from the list the Founding Fathers designated as impeachable acts?

Why did the Democratic House not impeach Trump for conspiring with Russia to steal the 2016 election? Answer: The House could no more prove this charge than could Robert Mueller after two years.

Other events are breaking Trump’s way.

The James Comey-FBI investigation Mueller inherited has begun to take on the aspect of a “deep state” conspiracy.

According to the Justice Department’s IG Michael Horowitz, the FISA court warrants used to justify FBI spying were the products not only of incompetence but also of mendacity and possible criminality.

The “essential” evidence use by the FBI to get the FISA judge to approve warrants for surveillance was the Steele dossier.

An ex-British spy, Christopher Steele was working in mid-2016 for a dirt-diving operation hired by the DNC and Clinton campaign to go after Trump. His altarpiece, the dossier, we learn from Horowitz, was a farrago of fabrications, rumors and lies fed to Steele by a Russian “sub-source.”

In the four FBI submissions to the FISA courts for warrants to spy on Carter Page, there were “at least 17 significant errors or omissions.”

And all 17 went against Team Trump.

Moreover, the discrediting of the Comey investigation has just begun. U.S. Attorney John Durham will report this spring or summer on his deeper and wider investigation into its roots.

As IG of Justice, Horowitz’s investigation was confined to his department and the FBI. But Durham is looking into the involvement of U.S. and foreign intelligence in the first days of the FBI investigation.

Attorney General Bill Barr and Durham have both said that they do not share Horowitz’s view that there was no political bias at the beginning of the investigation of the Trump campaign. Durham’s writ is far wider than Horowitz’s and he has the power to impanel grand juries and bring criminal indictments.

Among the fields Durham is plowing are reports that agents and assets of the FBI and CIA may have “set up” Trump foreign policy aide George Papadopoulos. Possible purpose: to feed him intel about Russia having dirt on Hillary Clinton, and then entrap him, put him in legal jeopardy, and turn him into an investigative instrument to be used against Trump.

With the Horowitz report confirming what the Trumpers have been reporting and saying about Comey’s investigation for years, and the newly proven manipulation of the FISA courts, the media hooting about “right-wing conspiracy theories” seems to have been toned down.

Carter Page, once considered a dupe of the Russians, is now seen as a patriot who assisted his country’s intelligence services only to be made a victim of injustice who saw his civil rights be trampled upon by his own government.

The cards appear to be falling Trump’s way.


https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/12/patrick-j-buchanan/is-impeachment-backfiring-on-the-dems/

donnay
12-20-2019, 06:00 AM
Sure it is backfiring...that is anyone who is paying attention to this charade that is.

juleswin
12-20-2019, 06:18 AM
https://i0.wp.com/onpasture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/funny-sheep-dog-conspiracy.jpg?w=540&ssl=1

Wake up, Sids

Mach
12-20-2019, 07:46 AM
How could it not backfire?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpy10kuSkKo

acptulsa
12-20-2019, 08:18 AM
And yet those of us who were fine with the Democrats doing this have TDS.

jmdrake
12-20-2019, 08:26 AM
And yet those of us who were fine with the Democrats doing this have TDS.

LOL. My personal "conspiracy theory" on impeachment is that Trump wanted it. What other explanation is there for Trump to publicly announce that China should investigate the Bidens? It's not like he thought China would actually do that. It was to get the Biden corruption story out and the best way to do that is through the media and the democrats.

Anti Globalist
12-20-2019, 08:37 AM
Yes it is going to backfire on them when they lose the House and get Trump reelected next year.

shakey1
12-20-2019, 09:18 AM
We shall see. :eyes:

fisharmor
12-20-2019, 09:25 AM
Buchanan wrote this and published it *today*???

Tim Pool has been saying this for like a month, and he's on the LEFT, FFS.

Thanks for this, it makes me not feel bad about not really reading LRC anymore.

Warlord
12-20-2019, 09:26 AM
Buchanan wrote this and published it *today*???

Tim Pool has been saying this for like a month, and he's on the LEFT, FFS.

Thanks for this, it makes me not feel bad about not really reading LRC anymore.

Ron reads LRC everyday. So should you.

fisharmor
12-20-2019, 09:42 AM
Ron reads LRC everyday. So should you.

Just curious, is it because I should be a month behind on current events, or because I haven't bought into the racist immigration restriction state-loving bullshit they've been hucking?

Warlord
12-20-2019, 09:46 AM
Just curious, is it because I should be a month behind on current events, or because I haven't bought into the racist immigration restriction state-loving bull$#@! they've been hucking?

LRC is a fabulous resource. I donate to them.

enhanced_deficit
12-20-2019, 10:00 AM
This is huge, even though conservative purists would probably continue to claim that current White House is occupied by "Dems".

There also apeears to be some shift in fakenews polling data, latest signs suggest that GOPA wing's former Democrat funders investment in MAGA movement may not sink necessarily. There are couple of wild cards out there still but so far GOPA wing appears to have avoided full loss of its political investmets.

Also, how things change in politics with time.

Flashback: Trump Quits GOP, Calls Pat Buchanan "Hitler lover"
"He's a Hitler lover. I guess he's an anti-Semite. He doesn't like the blacks. He doesn't like the gays. It's just incredible that anybody could embrace this guy," Trump said.

Warlord
12-20-2019, 10:15 AM
This is huge, even though conservative purists would probably continue to claim that current White House is occupied by "Dems".

There also apeears to be some shift in fakenews polling data, latest signs suggest that GOPA wing's former Democrat funders investment in MAGA movement may not sink necessarily. There are couple of wild cards out there still but so far GOPA wing appears to have avoided full loss of its political investmets.

Also, how things change in politics with time.

Flashback: Trump Quits GOP, Calls Pat Buchanan "Hitler lover"
"He's a Hitler lover. I guess he's an anti-Semite. He doesn't like the blacks. He doesn't like the gays. It's just incredible that anybody could embrace this guy," Trump said.

What do you make of this, ED?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?542140-McCain-Conservatives-Are-Rallying-Behind-Justin-Amash

angelatc
12-23-2019, 12:23 PM
Just curious, is it because I should be a month behind on current events, or because I haven't bought into the racist immigration restriction state-loving bullshit they've been hucking?

Did you read the original statement? It's because Ron Paul reads it. So are you calling Ron Paul a racist state-loving bullshit huckster? (PS: Ron Paul also says vaccines work, but they shouldn't be mandatory. Deal with it.)

dannno
12-23-2019, 05:01 PM
(PS: Ron Paul also says vaccines work, but they shouldn't be mandatory. Deal with it.)

LOL.. Ron Paul has said that generally speaking, vaccines work, he does not say that every vaccine is safe and effective.

juleswin
12-23-2019, 05:48 PM
Did you read the original statement? It's because Ron Paul reads it. So are you calling Ron Paul a racist state-loving bull$#@! huckster? (PS: Ron Paul also says vaccines work, but they shouldn't be mandatory. Deal with it.)

And Ron Paul also goes in and I bet reads infowars too. Just because Ron Paul consumes something doesn't mean that something is credible.

fisharmor
12-23-2019, 10:18 PM
Did you read the original statement? It's because Ron Paul reads it. So are you calling Ron Paul a racist state-loving bullshit huckster? (PS: Ron Paul also says vaccines work, but they shouldn't be mandatory. Deal with it.)

Yeah, I read the original statement. I have 12 years of history here and I know who can follow an argument and who can't, so I'm only typing this out for the third party observers.

First, it should have been evident my complaint was that LRC is very different from what it was 12 years ago (which, AFAIK, is about when RP said he read it daily).
Will Grigg is dead. Gary North is effectively not writing anymore. Fred Reed is losing it. Jeffrey Tucker had a falling out.
Most importantly, most of the rest of the people whose opinions I value who used to post there moved on to other media.

Which brings us to a second and more important point, which I brought up first, and should have been even more evident: Buchanan is about a month behind the curve here. I could go link to the YouTube videos that talk about all of this a full month before Buchanan was taken out of his hibernation chamber to make identical pronouncements on the matter, but I'll assume everyone can just trust me on it and go look up people like Tim Pool and Razorfist.

Third, Angela is butthurt because I neg repped her in another thread for her mental illness of needing to bring up vaccines in every single thread on this forum, especially when it is clearly and utterly outside the scope of the current discussion, and in response, she improperly turned the topic to vaccines AGAIN.