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Forefall
12-14-2007, 07:53 PM
How can people say this so confidently?

This was at the end of the PBS interview.

Luckily, no one watches PBS, ahaha.

RonPaulVolunteer
12-14-2007, 07:54 PM
She was playing devil's advocate...

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Sandra
12-14-2007, 07:56 PM
Zephyr is bitter about the Dean thing.

KewlRonduderules
12-14-2007, 07:57 PM
It was a good interview. I think though that old campaigner for Dean had to say that.

idiom
12-14-2007, 07:58 PM
They all are and they are protecting themselves because they are scared of being disappointed again.

Reporters know better than anybody how bad Washington is, but they also hear more promises than anybody of change.

lynnf
12-14-2007, 08:12 PM
How can people say this so confidently?

This was at the end of the PBS interview.

Luckily, no one watches PBS, ahaha.


1. they don't understand what's going on
2. they don't want him to win


they would have said before Nov 5th, if told that Ron Paul would raise $4 million in one day "can't happen"

most of us can't wait to make them eat those words!

lynn

IHaveaDream
12-14-2007, 08:19 PM
I sent PBS an email and thanked them for having Ron Paul on the show. I also let them know that I was disappointed with them allowing such a cheap parting shot at the end given all the other material that was edited out.

ChristopherJ
12-14-2007, 08:30 PM
:mad:Ugggghhhhh:mad:

I am so sick of this crap. Is there not one media outlet that is capable of reporting facts without the editorializing?

I had such high hopes for that piece from watching the preview. It left me with a bad taste in my mouth :(

Pauliana
12-14-2007, 08:32 PM
No one has ever won against a blimp.

10thAmendmentMan
12-14-2007, 08:39 PM
No one has ever won against a blimp.

I'm definitely using that one in the future.

DJ RP
12-14-2007, 08:41 PM
It annoys me too, this woman just says it as if it's fact. Maybe if people like you, woman, told your friends he could win then he'd have a better chance. Oh well, we'll keep repairing the damage you do and you can thank us later.

JosephTheLibertarian
12-14-2007, 08:48 PM
There was HUGE liberal bias. No one starts at the same starting point? That's the fucking point, dumbass! Dumb liberals.

fletcher
12-14-2007, 08:53 PM
There was HUGE liberal bias. No one starts at the same starting point? That's the fucking point, dumbass! Dumb liberals.

Why did they even have that guy on? No one cares about the political views of some random professor.

dspectre
12-14-2007, 08:54 PM
It's psychological.

Sadly, some of these people aren't the brightest in the world(or they are weak minded), so when a propaganda trick gets circulated around, they reinforce it to identify with their group or clique.

It's typical herd behavior. The media is never really questioned on these things so that is why it is never really challenged.

That's why you have to have self-confidence and can't follow the herd on the mere fact the herd is doing it. Otherwise, the tragedy is that you don't really think for yourself and don't have confidence without group validation.

ChristopherJ
12-14-2007, 08:55 PM
There was HUGE liberal bias. No one starts at the same starting point? That's the fucking point, dumbass! Dumb liberals.

Yeah, I don't want to start anything, but did you catch the guys name? Not to worry though I'm sure he was impartial :cool:

V-rod
12-14-2007, 08:55 PM
Hey guys, this is coming from someone who thought Dean would win

JosephTheLibertarian
12-14-2007, 08:57 PM
Why did they even have that guy on? No one cares about the political views of some random professor.

To make sure that no brain washed liberals vote Ron Paul. It's a scare tactic

raystone
12-14-2007, 08:58 PM
the liberal professor was great...a "journalism" piece has to have a counterpoint. this guy was the weakest, most inarticulate, possible . almost like they found the weakest counterpoint on purpose.

JosephTheLibertarian
12-14-2007, 08:59 PM
the liberal professor was great...a "journalism" piece has to have a counterpoint. this guy was the weakest, most inarticulate, possible . almost like they found the weakest counterpoint on purpose.

I bet you many people believe his horse shit

DJ RP
12-14-2007, 08:59 PM
I hate the idea that that guy is teaching young people to believe his shit :(

JosephTheLibertarian
12-14-2007, 09:02 PM
I hate the idea that that guy is teaching young people to believe his shit :(

I bet we would all say the same exact thing about the guy that taught this way lol

V-rod
12-14-2007, 09:03 PM
I hate the idea that that guy is teaching young people to believe his shit :(

Welcome to a world who thinks the European Union is great, and socialized medicine is the best that we can come up with.

DJ RP
12-14-2007, 09:12 PM
The scary part is I thought socialised medcine was a good idea just a few years ago.

As an illustration, I used to think michael moore was great.

I recently tried to watch one of his "films" and kept feeling physically SICK whenever he would speak.

Once you get a taste for the idea of liberty, really THINK about taxes, goverment, free markets etc. I don't see how you can go back or still endorse any of that crap. It boggles my mind and scares me whenever I think how intelectually lazy I was just a little while ago.

dude58677
12-14-2007, 09:36 PM
I notice how the media discounts everything that Ron Paul does well in. They said that Ron Paul wouldn't win debate polls and when he did, they said they were unscientific. The MSM said that Ron Paul wouldn't win straw polls after Des Moines and then when he won 26 straw polls, the media ignored the straw polls. Then the media said that fundraising was everything and when Ron Paul raised 4.3 million in a day, they now say that fundraising means nothing. The bias is obvious. I don't know whether to laugh at them or be enraged.

philistineau
12-14-2007, 10:00 PM
I really liked Sicko.

I am coming from the Democrat party though - so socialized medicine bothers me less than neocon wars, torture, habeas corpus and wire tapping.

:)

DJ RP
12-14-2007, 10:04 PM
I couldn't stand Moores whining voice with his propaganda music playing over everything. Especially as how I live in the UK and know how our health system kind of sucks even though he paints it as beautiful.

At the time I loved what he did to charlton heston in bowling for columbine now that I think back I feel sick about what he did. the slime.

sirachman
12-14-2007, 10:10 PM
Holy shit that is scary... Socialized medicine.. Do you have ANY idea how much that bullshit costs or how horribly unaffective it is, or are you for taxing the rich like Obomb and Hillroy? nm, glad you support Paul :D

pacelli
12-14-2007, 10:14 PM
It's psychological.

Sadly, some of these people aren't the brightest in the world(or they are weak minded), so when a propaganda trick gets circulated around, they reinforce it to identify with their group or clique.

It's typical herd behavior. The media is never really questioned on these things so that is why it is never really challenged.

That's why you have to have self-confidence and can't follow the herd on the mere fact the herd is doing it. Otherwise, the tragedy is that you don't really think for yourself and don't have confidence without group validation.


It is definitely psychological. However if you notice, as soon as she said that, she had a rapid eye response and a quick microexpression which is consistent with anxiety-- I think she was anxious making the comment. There was a hint of self-doubt even when she said it.

We have a good thing going here-- our herd behavior is much more effective than the media, and their ignorance only propels us to make more of an impact.

pikerz
12-14-2007, 10:20 PM
can i see this interview online anywhere?

fwiw, the argument about having a weak counter-point makes a lot of sense to me, without having even seen this interview yet.

slantedview
12-14-2007, 10:22 PM
kinda reminds me of old commentary about bill clinton. that guy can't win!

HAH!

slantedview
12-14-2007, 10:32 PM
The scary part is I thought socialised medcine was a good idea just a few years ago.

It is a good idea, if money money/resources were inifinte. I understand why people support it.

The problem is, money and resources are not infinite, and people truly seem to not get it. They think the government can do and pay for whatever it wants. It can't. So, we can't have socialized medicine without forfeiting freedom.

clinchy
12-14-2007, 10:35 PM
The "He can't win" mantra really irks me. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that specific reasons are not given to support this assertion? Indeed, it has a chilling psychological effect. I myself have stood dumbfounded when people have said that to me. I've resolved that from now on I will ask why not, and I will be ready to respond.

Bloody Holly
12-14-2007, 10:37 PM
Media is pissed off right now because they see a person that has all of this support without their push for him. It takes away their egotistical power trip they have been so used to for quite some time now.

Now they are trying to push forth Huckabee because he "seems" sincere. The media are thinking "what is it that people like about Ron Paul?"

Oh....maybe it's the sincerity part well let's start pushing for someone who can take Ron Paul's place but will turn around when elected and continue with the program that we like because we benefit the most.

Henry
12-14-2007, 10:39 PM
They are constantly setting us up, and we always fall for it. The preview they conviently provided us was nonthing more than bait, and we bit.:mad::mad:

paulitics
12-14-2007, 10:43 PM
I just counted 20 million youtube views in only 5 pages of most popular. I guess the total is perhaps double or 40 million. Youtube for RP = TV for JFK in the 60's?

me3
12-14-2007, 10:47 PM
When some of them say, "He won't win" that's our cue to work harder.

mport1
12-14-2007, 10:55 PM
I really don't understand where the notion that a candidate "won't win" comes from (except from the media). Regardless, why does it matter what chance a person has to win to give them your support?

michaelwise
12-14-2007, 10:55 PM
I was not happy with the ambush by the socialist network PBS overall, so I had to console myself with reading my housing bubble blogs.
Halfway down the page is a Teaparty thread.
http://www.housingpanic.blogspot.com/

And my other favorite:
http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/index.html

Sunday we should make our stand against these twerps and pledge to not vote for any other candidate ever period. We should start a pledgebook not to vote for anyone else in the general election.

westmich4paul
12-15-2007, 12:03 AM
I found Zephyr to be a hot lil cougar, I would love to convert her to the r3volution!:p

OferNave
12-15-2007, 12:55 AM
Someone asked for the PBS interview:

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/350/video-ron-paul.html

Notice how Ron Paul ended? "if we have the support, we're gonna win."

Finally! FINALLY! Ron Paul ends strong with "we're gonna win". No more of this pansy "well, I'm realistic" crap. Go Ron Paul.

Paul4Prez
12-15-2007, 01:03 AM
You would think media pundits and political experts would have learned from Huckabee's recent rise in the polls not to trust the polls, but you'd be wrong.

To say Ron Paul has no chance to win is to embrace the polls that have proven repeatedly to be wrong, and to ignore the fundraising, the crowds, the signs, the Internet, the straw polls, and the public's general disgust with politicians and their yearning for a candidate with integrity.

Richandler
12-15-2007, 01:10 AM
I just found out a friend I haven't talked to in about 6 months is voting for Paul here in California. This completely took me by surprise. So I'm beginning to think the support is more hidden than we think it is.