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Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 02:21 AM
The illegal immigrant population is as high as 29.5 million, far more than the 11 million accepted by experts and the government, according to an explosive new report from three Yale University experts.
“Our results lead us to the conclusion that the widely accepted estimate of 11.3 million undocumented immigrants in the United States is too small. Our model estimates indicate that the true number is likely to be larger, with an estimated 95 percent probability interval ranging from 16.2 to 29.5 million undocumented immigrants,” said their report published by PLOS One, (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0201193) an academic journal.

https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/c64ca04/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1716x1260+0+0/resize/1716x1260!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediadc.brightspotcdn.com%2F0a% 2F3d%2Fed7265414fb7bebeba0a343cf802%2Fscreen-shot-2018-09-23-at-8.22.09%20AM.png


The authors from Yale School of Management, Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, Jonathan S. Feinstein, Edward H. Kaplan, said the average in their new model is about 22 million, exactly twice the number accepted by the Census Bureau and other experts.
“The mean estimate based on our simulation analysis is 22.1 million, essentially double the current widely accepted estimate,” they wrote.

More at: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/yale-shocker-29-5-million-illegal-immigrants-3x-higher-than-census-number

And it's still probably low.

devil21
11-15-2019, 02:42 AM
LOL. A muslim and two jews from Skull and Bones Univ. putting out a report about the number of hispanics.

Can't make this stuff up. Oh wait...

I remember when 30 million immigrants was the official number 10 years ago.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 02:48 AM
I remember when 30 million immigrants was the official number 10 years ago.
It's probably on the low side.
Do you have a link to that "official" number 10 years ago?
Because the official number I have seen for more than 10 years was 10-12 Million, they thought we were stupid enough to believe it wasn't going up in all that time.

devil21
11-15-2019, 02:52 AM
It's probably on the low side.
Do you have a link to that "official" number 10 years ago?
Because the official number I have seen for more than 10 years was 10-12 Million, they thought we were stupid enough to believe it wasn't going up in all that time.

It's all bullshit made up numbers. Yes, there are a lot of immigrants here, some are lazy, most aren't. All of our families were immigrants at some point.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 02:59 AM
It's all bull$#@! made up numbers.
On the low side to try and deny the great replacement. (except when they want to brag about it)


Yes, there are a lot of immigrants here,
Too many.


some are lazy, most aren't.
Irrelevant, by a vast margin the majority are communists.



All of our families were immigrants at some point.
Irrelevant, we have a right to preserve liberty for ourselves and our posterity, foreigners have no right to come here.

You claim to oppose the Catholics and the Zionists so why do you support their agenda to invade America with millions of hostile foreigners in order to destroy it and pave the way for their globalist communist empire?

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 03:28 AM
All of our families were immigrants at some point.

Yup. By the millions.

Let's ask these guys how that worked for them and their way of life:

http://www.tomorrowstarted.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Indian-Warriors-happy-thanksgiving.jpg

devil21
11-15-2019, 03:36 AM
Yup. By the millions.

Let's ask these guys how that worked for them and their way of life:

http://www.tomorrowstarted.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Indian-Warriors-happy-thanksgiving.jpg

There's a lot of hispanics invading the far reachs of NH fishing boat harbors?

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 03:42 AM
There's a lot of hispanics invading the far reachs of NH fishing boat harbors?

No, not Hispanics in northern New England.

Sub Saharan Africans are, brought here, in part with my tax money, for the specific and stated purpose of displacing me and my posterity.

The Hispanics have invaded ports further to to south, including the one I worked out of 35 years ago in NJ.

devil21
11-15-2019, 03:51 AM
No, not Hispanics in northern New England.

Sub Saharan Africans are, brought here, in part with my tax money, for the specific and stated purpose of displacing me and my posterity.

The Hispanics have invaded ports further to to south, including the one I worked out of 35 years ago in NJ.

Sub Saharan Africans working frozen North American fishing ports. Gotta see pics of this asap. I eagerly await...

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 04:05 AM
Sub Saharan Africans working frozen North American fishing ports. Gotta see pics of this asap. I eagerly await...

Lewiston:
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/43/60/61/9374806/3/gallery_medium.jpg

Newest politician from Lewiston:
https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/977c05c/2147483647/thumbnail/640x420/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcom-usnews-beam-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2F21%2Ff20421e762fb9f04c807 ccf5fca0cc%2Fmedia%3A52f9d565d9fc4dd9a68e3a5563e5c 610CORRECTION_Election_2019-Somali_Councilor_70804.jpg

Portland:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/td1HUmpEDI8/maxresdefault.jpg

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 04:09 AM
Sub Saharan Africans working frozen North American fishing ports. Gotta see pics of this asap. I eagerly await...

Seriously, you have not read anything of Catholic Charities, for instance?

How they take tax money to encourage and facilitate central Africans to migrate to places like Maine, specifically because there are "too many white people" there?

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 04:22 AM
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Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 04:23 AM
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Ya gotta hand to our enemies...they are nothing, if not clever.

Convince them, through feminism, weirdosexualism, climate change alarmism and atheism that having children and continuing your heritage is racist and destructive.

Then use their own systems and tax money and guilt to overwhelm them with third world invaders.

Stratovarious
11-15-2019, 04:24 AM
What are the odds;

I was at a Nevada casino for 3 days in August, the tenants/hotel guests were at least 85% foreigners, non-whites.

The foreigners appeared to be guests staying the weekend , using the pool , not sure what else, but didn't see them so much
gambling, at shows, or at the restaurants.

30 million is probably a conservative figure, there is undoubtedly an invasion, encouraged by our own
govt and sjw socialists.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 04:44 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DcOgLZF.jpg

jon4liberty
11-15-2019, 07:04 AM
If we would just provide them with books from Ludwig Von Mises, Ayn Rand, Milton Freidman, etc. Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore etc would all be paradises!

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 01:49 PM
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Ooh- dozens! We will be replaced soon!

Danke
11-15-2019, 01:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8mOCsINwU&feature=emb_title

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 01:57 PM
Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?

Danke
11-15-2019, 02:04 PM
Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?

We are currently exercising triage.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 02:06 PM
We are currently exercising triage.

Better to exorcise it. An ounce of prevention in this case would actually be worth a ton of cure.

Migration is a great big pain in the ass. It takes a lot to get people to even consider it.

Sammy
11-15-2019, 02:08 PM
We should deport all of them.

Danke
11-15-2019, 02:12 PM
Better to exorcise it. An ounce of prevention in this case would actually be worth a ton of cure.

Migration is a great big pain in the ass. It takes a lot to get people to even consider it.


Go get (((them))). Hope you aren’t suicided...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G45WthPTo24&feature=emb_title

devil21
11-15-2019, 02:13 PM
Seriously, you have not read anything of Catholic Charities, for instance?

How they take tax money to encourage and facilitate central Africans to migrate to places like Maine, specifically because there are "too many white people" there?

Thanks for digging up the pics. Not quite what I asked for but it is apparently true that Lewiston ME has added 5000 Africans since 2001 to a town of ~35,000. I don't think it's quite the breathless existential crisis being painted though. As I've said in other immigration related threads, if you really think there's an existential crisis underway, there's only one answer. Start f*ckin'. Since it's a Vatican directed initiative, as you allude to, immigration as a whole is not going to stop so the only solution is the biological one. There is no political solution. There is only the natural one.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 02:14 PM
Go get (((them))). Hope you aren’t suicided...

Go get who?

acptulsa: To stem the flow of sub-Saharan migrants, stop bombing their homes to rubble.

Danke: Go get (((them))).

Excuse me for asking, but wtf are you talking about?

Sammy
11-15-2019, 02:15 PM
It's all bull$#@! made up numbers. Yes, there are a lot of immigrants here, some are lazy, most aren't. All of our families were immigrants at some point.

When my ancestors came to the US (mostly from Italy) there was no Welfare state,Affirmative action & we didn't cry to the Government because of "racism".

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 02:15 PM
Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?

But that would make the President responsible! We must blame somebody else for our problems!

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 02:29 PM
No, not Hispanics in northern New England.

Sub Saharan Africans are, brought here, in part with my tax money, for the specific and stated purpose of displacing me and my posterity.

The Hispanics have invaded ports further to to south, including the one I worked out of 35 years ago in NJ.

Africa accounts for only about ten percent of immigrants to the US. Asia and North America combine for about three quarters of them (with about 37% of all immigrants each)

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/images/OIS/Infographics2017/Infographic_LPR_2017_final_03.jpg

devil21
11-15-2019, 03:24 PM
When my ancestors came to the US (mostly from Italy) there was no Welfare state,Affirmative action & we didn't cry to the Government because of "racism".

So we can blame your ancestors for what has transpired since then? :p

tod evans
11-15-2019, 04:53 PM
We should deport all of them.

Better to house them with sympathetic politicians first.

Origanalist
11-15-2019, 04:56 PM
I don't see how anyone can be shocked by this and the numbers are still low.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 05:03 PM
Thanks for digging up the pics. Not quite what I asked for but it is apparently true that Lewiston ME has added 5000 Africans since 2001 to a town of ~35,000. I don't think it's quite the breathless existential crisis being painted though. As I've said in other immigration related threads, if you really think there's an existential crisis underway, there's only one answer. Start f*ckin'. Since it's a Vatican directed initiative, as you allude to, immigration as a whole is not going to stop so the only solution is the biological one. There is no political solution. There is only the natural one.

OK, so what you're saying is there is no way I can stop my tax dollars from funding this...and that there is no political solution to this, even though there was a political solution to this that worked just fine up to 1965, and that my only recourse is to start fucking, at well over fifty and having raised 5 kids already.

Or to just give the fuck up.

Great, so I can look forward to being abused by some African migrant in some shitass nursing home while I piss on myself in old age.

Yeah...I think my time around here is just about at an end...

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 05:06 PM
Go get who?

acptulsa: To stem the flow of sub-Saharan migrants, stop bombing their homes to rubble.

Danke: Go get (((them))).

Excuse me for asking, but wtf are you talking about?

We're bombing Ghana, the Congo, Nigeria and Angola?

Origanalist
11-15-2019, 05:07 PM
OK, so what you're saying is there is no way I can stop my tax dollars from funding this...and that there is no political solution to this, even though there was a political solution to this that worked just fine up to 1965, and that my only recourse is to start fucking, at well over fifty and having raised 5 kids already.

Or to just give the fuck up as CCTelander suggested in another post.

Great, so I can look forward to being abused by some African migrant in some shitass nursing home while I piss on myself in old age.

Yeah...I think my time around here is just about at an end...

Maybe it's time we all considered polygamy. It may be our only hope.

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 05:11 PM
Thanks for digging up the pics. Not quite what I asked for but it is apparently true that Lewiston ME has added 5000 Africans since 2001 to a town of ~35,000. I don't think it's quite the breathless existential crisis being painted though. As I've said in other immigration related threads, if you really think there's an existential crisis underway, there's only one answer. Start f*ckin'. Since it's a Vatican directed initiative, as you allude to, immigration as a whole is not going to stop so the only solution is the biological one. There is no political solution. There is only the natural one.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/lewiston-me-population/

Lewiston Maine Demographics:


Lewiston, Maine's estimated population is 35,944 according to the most recent United States census estimates. Lewiston, Maine is the 2nd largest city in Maine based on official 2017 estimates from the US Census Bureau.

The population density is 1052.64 people/mi˛ (406.43 people/km˛).

The overall median age is 40.1 years, 40 years for males, and 40.4 years for females. For every 100 females there are 92.0 males.

Based on data from the American Community Survey, in 2017 there were households in the city, with an average size of 2.11 people per household. The homeowner vacancy rate was %, with a median rent of $/month. The median house has rooms, and has a value of $.

The median income for households in Lewiston, Maine is $39,890, while the mean household income is $52,574.

Lewiston Me Demographics
According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Lewiston Me was:

White: 87.95%
Two or more races: 6.22%
Black or African American: 4.33%
Asian: 1.06%
Native American: 0.28%
Other race: 0.16%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.00%

That is 1,500 black/ African American people- not 5,000. Still almost 90% white.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 05:13 PM
Africa accounts for only about ten percent of immigrants to the US. Asia and North America combine for about three quarters of them (with about 37% of all immigrants each)

Yeah, so fucking what?

The Africans are being brought to Maine and New Hampshire specifically because "there are too many white people here".

Unlike like most of you here, which is a reflection of most white people across the country, I am not afraid to say "I like being around my own kind, and, for all our warts and faults, life is better because of it". (And all you have to do to prove that is compare which states and the populations within those states, have the best living conditions. Every year, every time, by every metric you can think of, those states are almost universally sparsely populated and almost all white.)

New Hampshire, 94 Percent White, Asks: How Do You Diversify a Whole State? (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/us/new-hampshire-white-diversify.html)

I'm not asking that question.

I want no part of it.

Weak white progressives by the millions are, and doing everything they can to slit their own throats, but I'm not taking part in their sick fantasies.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 05:17 PM
We're bombing Ghana, the Congo, Nigeria and Angola?

I doubt it. None of them are particularly close to Israel, and none have great quantities if oil.

Excuse me while I try to catch up. We went from illegal immigrants to legal immigrants in your neck of the woods. So, I'm guessing this small part of sub-Saharan Africa is where they're from?

I don't know. Tulsa welcomed refugees from Vietnam once upon a time, but charity paid for that, not the government. If Washington tried that trick around here, I'm pretty sure it would fail.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 05:19 PM
I doubt it. None of them are particularly close to Israel, and none have great quantities if oil.

Excuse me while I try to catch up. We went from illegal immigrants to legal immigrants in your neck of the woods. So, I'm guessing this small part of sub-Saharan Africa is where they're from?

I don't know. Tulsa welcomed refugees from Vietnam once upon a time, but charity paid for that, not the government. If Washington tried that trick around here, I'm pretty sure it would fail.

Which charity?

The ones that are sponsoring the migrant influx into Maine, specifically Catholic Charities Inc. are heavily subsidized by the feds.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 05:22 PM
Which charity?

The ones that are sponsoring the migrant influx into Maine, specifically Catholic Charities Inc. are heavily subsidized by the feds.

Those aren't charities, they're "charities".

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:24 PM
Seriously, you have not read anything of Catholic Charities, for instance?

How they take tax money to encourage and facilitate central Africans to migrate to places like Maine, specifically because there are "too many white people" there?

He knows the truth but it doesn't suit his agenda.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:26 PM
I doubt it. None of them are particularly close to Israel, and none have great quantities if oil.

Excuse me while I try to catch up. We went from illegal immigrants to legal immigrants in your neck of the woods. So, I'm guessing this small part of sub-Saharan Africa is where they're from?

I don't know. Tulsa welcomed refugees from Vietnam once upon a time, but charity paid for that, not the government. If Washington tried that trick around here, I'm pretty sure it would fail.
We get invaders from all over the world and then we get invited invaders courtesy of traitors in government and in "charities".
It's all part of the same conquest and destruction of liberty.

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 05:26 PM
I doubt it. None of them are particularly close to Israel, and none have great quantities if oil.

Excuse me while I try to catch up. We went from illegal immigrants to legal immigrants in your neck of the woods. So, I'm guessing this small part of sub-Saharan Africa is where they're from?

I don't know. Tulsa welcomed refugees from Vietnam once upon a time, but charity paid for that, not the government. If Washington tried that trick around here, I'm pretty sure it would fail.

Trump is bombing Somalia and was in Libya. Troops were sent to Niger.

https://merip.org/2018/02/trumps-drone-surge/


Less than a year into Trump’s presidency, the world’s policeman is back, now armed with a Twitter account. Flying largely under the media radar, the US military is flexing its muscles around the world—and in some areas it is going on the offensive. Since Trump took office, the United States has quietly increased the number of troops in the Middle East by 33 percent and there are plans for an “enduring presence” in both Iraq and Syria.[2] More troops and yet another supposedly new strategy are being deployed for the endless war in Afghanistan. US soldiers are fanning out across an archipelago of bases in Africa to conduct what they call “train, advise and assist” missions with nearly 1,000 soldiers in Niger. In Somalia the numbers are also climbing: Troop levels are the highest since the “Black Hawk Down” incident in 1993. The United States has even flown the flag in Europe, as 4,000 soldiers landed in Poland to demonstrate an “iron-clad commitment” to NATO allies. Elsewhere, US support for the Saudi-UAE bombing campaign on Yemen is drawing the United States deeper into that ongoing civil war, and assistance is flowing to the Philippines’ military fight with Islamist militants.


In Libya, the United States has renewed the bombing and drone campaign against ISIS targets that had been a central focus of Obama’s last year in office. The Pentagon’s Africa Command (AFRICOM) conducted drone strikes on an ISIS training camp in Libya in September, killing 17 militants in the first American airstrikes there since January. The United States has conducted several more drone strikes on alleged ISIS camps and targets in central Libya as part of a widening campaign.

There has also been a surge of US military operations across the expanding archipelago of outposts and drone bases that AFRICOM has set up to patrol the Sahel and Central Africa region. Following the ambush by Islamist militants that killed four Special Operations Forces soldiers in October, the Trump administration is moving closer to arming the surveillance drones that now fly over Niger and Mali in search of suspects, which would extend the drone war into new areas not previously targeted. The administration is also considering new rules that could permit AFRICOM to carry out offensive ground combat operations in North and West Africa, escalating deployments in a region that key lawmakers seem to have been only dimly aware of before the deaths of the four soldiers. The hub of these activities will be a $100 million drone base in Agadez, Niger that is under construction.

You don't hear much about them- Trump banned releasing information.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 05:26 PM
He knows the truth but it doesn't suit his agenda.

Name somebody on this site who can claim the true facts do suit his agenda.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:29 PM
Thanks for digging up the pics. Not quite what I asked for but it is apparently true that Lewiston ME has added 5000 Africans since 2001 to a town of ~35,000. I don't think it's quite the breathless existential crisis being painted though. As I've said in other immigration related threads, if you really think there's an existential crisis underway, there's only one answer. Start f*ckin'. Since it's a Vatican directed initiative, as you allude to, immigration as a whole is not going to stop so the only solution is the biological one. There is no political solution. There is only the natural one.
The natural solution is to stop them from getting in and drive out those already here.

We have a right to preserve liberty for ourselves and our posterity and life isn't just a breeding contest.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:29 PM
Name somebody on this site who can claim the true facts do suit his agenda.

Me.

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 05:30 PM
The natural solution is to stop them from getting in and drive out those already here.

We have a right to preserve liberty for ourselves and our posterity and life isn't just a breeding contest.

The cliches just keep on flowing today!

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 05:30 PM
Me.

Ah. Nice to know immigration, impeachment and imperialism suit your agenda.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:31 PM
Why are these complaints about the influx of sub-Saharan Africans and Western Asians never accompanied by demands that we end the biggest catalyst for their migration--the wars?
They are, we call for an end to the wars all the time.

But it will be ever harder to end them as long as the deepstate is allowed to import anti-liberty voters.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 05:31 PM
and that there is no political solution to this, even though there was a political solution to this that worked just fine up to 1965

A political solution that was signed into law by someone who is considered to be the most libertarian president the country has ever had, Calvin Coolidge.

This issue could be resolved in a matter of months.

A - Repeal the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965. Reset the clock to the Immigration Act of 1924

B - Deploy three Army divisions along the border. Fuck a wall. Human beings with rifles.

C - Deport anybody here illegally.

D - A total and complete moratorium on any long term immigration for ten years, so as to give us a chance to sort this mess out.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:32 PM
Ah. Nice to know impeachment suits your agenda.
It does, it demonstrates the utter evil of those pursuing it.

Truth is always on my side because I am on it's side.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 05:34 PM
Ah. Nice to know immigration, impeachment and imperialism suit your agenda.

It does

Thanks for the confirmation.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:34 PM
A political solution that was signed into law by someone who is considered to be the most libertarian president the country has ever had, Calvin Coolidge.

This issue could be resolved in a matter of months.

A - Repeal the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965. Reset the clock to the Immigration Act of 1964.

B - Deploy three Army divisions along the border. $#@! a wall. Human beings with rifles.

C - Deport anybody here illegally.

D - A total and complete moratorium on any long term immigration for ten years, so as to give us a chance to sort this mess out.
Life is NOT a breeding contest and it would be evil to turn it into one.
Those who tell you that your only option is to outbreed the invader are mocking you to your face and if we were foolish enough to take their advice it would destroy liberty forever, having too many children prevent you from raising them properly and creates population pressure that leads to liberalism and tyranny.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:35 PM
The cliches just keep on flowing today!
The truth is cliche.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:38 PM
You claim to oppose the Catholics and the Zionists so why do you support their agenda to invade America with millions of hostile foreigners in order to destroy it and pave the way for their globalist communist empire? devil21.
Answer the question.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:39 PM
Thanks for the confirmation.
That's a nice deceptive edit you've got there.

That isn't how your comment was worded when I answered it nor is that my entire answer.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:40 PM
Ah. Nice to know immigration, impeachment and imperialism suit your agenda.
I see you edited that so fast that the edit doesn't show but my reply has the version I answered for all to see.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:41 PM
Ah. Nice to know immigration, impeachment and imperialism suit your agenda.
The true facts about all of those do suit my agenda.
My agenda is to oppose them using the true facts about them.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 05:54 PM
That's a nice deceptive edit you've got there.

That isn't how your comment was worded when I answered it nor is that my entire answer.


I see you edited that so fast that the edit doesn't show but my reply has the version I answered for all to see.


The true facts about all of those do suit my agenda.
My agenda is to oppose them using the true facts about them.

The true fact is there's an impeachment underway that you have called a CIA coup, and you say that suits your agenda.

That's plenty, thank you. I couldn't ask for more.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 05:57 PM
The true fact is there's an impeachment underway that you have called a CIA coup, and you say that suits your agenda.

That's plenty, thank you. I couldn't ask for more.
It does suit my agenda because it exposes the deepstate and proves Trump is its enemy.
You can't drain the swamp until it has been exposed.

I see you are admitting to the deceptive edit.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 06:00 PM
This is the second time @acptulsa (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=12430) has participated in a deceptive edit trap, last time he was working with TheCount.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 06:25 PM
This is the second time @acptulsa (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=12430) has participated in a deceptive edit trap, last time he was working with TheCount.

You're welcome.

We all understand some people would rather live in a soap opera, because a perfect world would give them nothing to bitch about.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 06:31 PM
You're welcome.

We all understand some people would rather live in a soap opera, because a perfect world would give them nothing to bitch about.
We all know you would prefer a world where those you abuse keep their mouths shut and "relax and enjoy it".

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 06:41 PM
We all know you would prefer a world where those you abuse keep their mouths shut and "relax and enjoy it".

Now that's projection.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 06:46 PM
Now that's projection.
Says the guy who got caught using deceptive editing.

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 06:48 PM
Says the guy who got caught using deceptive editing.

I did edit my post. And you yourself admitted you quoted me while I was doing it.

What's deceptive about that? Should I alter my sig to say, "Warning: I might edit this post"?

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 06:51 PM
I did edit my post. And you yourself admitted you quoted me while I was doing it.

What's deceptive about that? Should I alter my sig to say, "Warning: I might edit this post"?
What was deceptive was when you quoted my response as if it was a response to the edited version AND you edited my response to destroy the meaning.

Do you really think others are stupid enough for you to get away with lying about what you did?

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 06:56 PM
What was deceptive was when you quoted my response as if it was a response to the edited version AND you edited my response to destroy the meaning.

Do you really think others are stupid enough for you to get away with lying about what you did?

I lied about what I did?

Do you think others are stupid enough for you to get away with saying I lied about what I did?

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 07:00 PM
I lied about what I did?

Do you think others are stupid enough for you to get away with saying I lied about what I did?
You lied by claiming what you did wasn't deceptive.

Do you really think others are stupid enough for you to get away with lying about what you did?

Origanalist
11-15-2019, 07:01 PM
Lolol

acptulsa
11-15-2019, 07:03 PM
You lied by claiming what you did wasn't deceptive.

Do you really think others are stupid enough for you to get away with lying about what you did?

I didn't actually say that, did I?

Did you lie about not editing mine?


Lolol

Remember Polock jokes? Is it okay to share those again, since Polish people are demonized whites?

Remember, how do you keep a Polock in suspense?

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 07:10 PM
I didn't actually say that, did I?
People can read, trying to weasel your way out doesn't change anything.
Implication is also communication.


Did you lie about not editing mine?
I would have no reason to edit yours and if I had it wasn't in a way that harmed you or deceived anyone.
Your deception was obvious as is your continuing nonsense trying to defend it.




Remember Polock jokes? Is it okay to share those again, since Polish people are demonized whites?

Remember, how do you keep a Polock in suspense?
Go on, continue to expose your trollishness.

Origanalist
11-15-2019, 07:10 PM
I didn't actually say that, did I?

Did you lie about not editing mine?



Remember Polock jokes? Is it okay to share those again, since Polish people are demonized whites?

Remember, how do you keep a Polock in suspense?

Yes, and no.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
11-15-2019, 07:47 PM
Remember Polock jokes?



Q: What happened to the Polish hockey team? A: They all drowned in spring training.




Q: How do you take census in a Polish village? A: Roll a quarter down the street, count the legs, divide by two, and subtract one for the Jew who catches it.



Q: How did the Polish mother teach her son which way to put his underwear on? A: Yellow in the front, Brown in the back

Origanalist
11-15-2019, 07:56 PM
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Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 08:00 PM
https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/1040826291438297088/xlarge?jwtsig=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9 .eyJleHAiOjE1Nzc4MzY4MDAsInVyaSI6Imh0dHBzOlwvXC9jZ G4ubWluZHMuY29tXC9mc1wvdjFcL3RodW1ibmFpbFwvMTA0MDg yNjI5MTQzODI5NzA4OFwveGxhcmdlIiwidXNlcl9ndWlkIjoiO DM3MDU4NzQ4NTY3NTI3NDQxIn0.n9vmSzSqmZMVjFz_pORVPu6 Qn8tl1dW-gOqrq1lYjR0
I guess it's time everybody told Swedish jokes instead.

Zippyjuan
11-15-2019, 08:01 PM
Peter Sweden isn't even Swedish. He was born in Norway and lives in the UK.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 08:03 PM
Peter Sweden isn't even Swedish. He was born in Norway and lives in the UK.
That doesn't change the facts.

Origanalist
11-15-2019, 08:05 PM
I guess it's time everybody told Swedish jokes instead.

What does a Swede do when his daughter is being raped?

Don't be racist.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 08:06 PM
What does a Swede do when his daughter is being raped?

Don't be racist.
I'd say he offers to get his wife.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2019, 08:20 PM
I guess it's time everybody told Swedish jokes instead.

Squareheads.

That's the proper slur.

How did the Germans invade Norway so fast?
They marched backwards so the squareheads thought they were leaving.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2019, 08:27 PM
Squareheads.

That's the proper slur.

How did the Germans invade Norway so fast?
They marched backwards so the squareheads thought they were leaving.
How'd the muslims conquer Sweden so fast?

They claimed Sweden attacked them and the squareheads believed it.

devil21
11-16-2019, 04:38 PM
devil21.
Answer the question.

I'm mostly past the point of supporting or opposing anything except freedom, since I have come to realize there's nothing I can do to stop it and no politician is going is going to do anything either. As I've said before, I'm more the color commentator in the booth during a football game, while you're the water boy spraying Gatorade into player's mouths. Having said that, I find it odd that conservatives advocate for competition/free market in all things except biological contests. That's apparently different for some reason. Never made much sense to me but most mainstream conservatives never seem to recognize their own hypocrisy, cognitive dissonance or lack of logical continuity to the platform. Cognitive dissonance is definitely a bipartisan issue.

Further, since I have come to fully understand what is "illegal" about an "illegal immigrant", and have interacted with some and found them to be hard-working, family oriented people, not the stereotype you claim, I don't hold ill will toward them. My own immigration stance has become much more classic libertarian and much less conservative. "Illegal immigrants" are the most free people here and are not contractually bound to the legal jurisdictional game that's been foisted upon everyone by the bankers and their attorney foot soldiers that make up most of the legislatures. Freedom is something I do advocate and no amount of demonizing of immigrants is going to make me want to see them chained into this freedom-less legal system as "legal" or removed from the country because they aren't. Besides, human migration is as old as humanity itself.

As a final note, to follow up my start f*ckin' comment, there's a lot of immigrants that are doing very well economically in my area (running successful businesses, buying/building/upgrading nice properties, etc) and are not the welfare whores you like to claim they are. In case you haven't noticed, the banker controllers are reversing national and global economics. At one time it was immigrants and Chinese that worked hard to make money for white people. That is slowly being reversed. Despite his rhetoric, this is why Trump does nothing about it and nothing changes. He's controlled by those same banker interests and his job to keep you pacified while the reversal continues.


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http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/lewiston-me-population/

Lewiston Maine Demographics:

That is 1,500 black/ African American people- not 5,000. Still almost 90% white.

I tracked back to the source of AF's first picture and it was in a local media article that said 5k since 2001. Which source is accurate, or perhaps neither, I don't know.

Swordsmyth
11-16-2019, 04:58 PM
I'm mostly past the point of supporting or opposing anything except freedom, since I have come to realize there's nothing I can do to stop it and no politician is going is going to do anything either. As I've said before, I'm more the color commentator in the booth during a football game, while you're the water boy spraying Gatorade into player's mouths. Having said that, I find it odd that conservatives advocate for competition/free market in all things except biological contests. That's apparently different for some reason. Never made much sense to me but most mainstream conservatives never seem to recognize their own hypocrisy, cognitive dissonance or lack of logical continuity to the platform. Cognitive dissonance is definitely a bipartisan issue.
You are the one trying to force us to compete only in the bedroom and denying us the right to preserve liberty through any other means.
You are subordinating liberty to fecundity.
We have a right to a nation where liberty is paramount and to preserve it for ourselves and our posterity whether we have excessive posterity or not. (and having too many children will destroy liberty too)


Further, since I have come to fully understand what is "illegal" about an "illegal immigrant", and have interacted with some and found them to be hard-working, family oriented people, not the stereotype you claim, I don't hold ill will toward them. My own immigration stance has become much more classic libertarian and much less conservative. "Illegal immigrants" are the most free people here and are not contractually bound to the legal jurisdictional game that's been foisted upon everyone by the bankers and their attorney foot soldiers that make up most of the legislatures. Freedom is something I do advocate and no amount of demonizing of immigrants is going to make me want to see them chained into this freedom-less legal system as "legal" or removed from the country because they aren't. Besides, human migration is as old as humanity itself.
They are invaders and they are destructive to liberty, you don't support liberty, you support anarchy and that always leads to tyranny.
The illegals will make it impossible to ever rid our country of the tyranny you claim to oppose.


As a final note, to follow up my start f*ckin' comment, there's a lot of immigrants that are doing very well economically in my area (running successful businesses, buying/building/upgrading nice properties, etc) and are not the welfare whores you like to claim they are. In case you haven't noticed, the banker controllers are reversing national and global economics. At one time it was immigrants and Chinese that worked hard to make money for white people. That is slowly being reversed. Despite his rhetoric, this is why Trump does nothing about it and nothing changes. He's controlled by those same banker interests and his job to keep you pacified while the reversal continues.

Your anecdotal experience does nothing to change the real facts, the immigrants are used to deprive whites of the economic opportunities they need to have children and they use welfare at much higher rates than the natives, if we put native minorities in with the immigrants the disparity would be even worse.
"start f*ckin'" is just an excuse to tell us we must surrender to those who would conquer us and those who would use them to destroy liberty forever.
And Trump is doing as much as he can without the help of Congress and is having a reasonable level of success.

devil21
11-17-2019, 08:53 AM
You are the one trying to force us

I'm trying to force you? Pardon me but I only made a rational suggestion, given the facts of the situation and the realities of what this society will tolerate, to any one that thinks it is indeed an existential crisis. If there's one thing I can't do it's force people to have children. So let's simmer down with such ridiculous claims that I'm trying to force anyone to do anything and especially something as absurd as forcing people to breed. No one is rounding up and deporting millions of immigrants. Not happening. Stop talking about it. It makes you look delusional to keep suggesting it as even a possibility.

I am supporting liberty right now, wherever I happen to see it. You're hoping for some hazy vision of liberty somewhere down the road in the future, which will be somehow obtained by somehow continuing the current liberty-less status quo, while actually removing the relatively few people that actually are living in real freedom today. Newsflash: THERE IS NO LIBERTY IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN (U.S. Citizen) EXCEPT THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE BETWEEN 15 FLAVORS OF HFCS ICE CREAM. When I see actual free people here, even if they often don't realize the gift they have, I will never advocate to remove them. In fact, I just wish some of them weren't in such a hurry to "legalize" themselves and lock on the chains of the Rothschild BAR debt slave banking legal system. I suspect that your hazy vision of future liberty is merely white religious Mormon rule over the world. You are told that upon death you get your own little planet to lord over and all of the inhabitants are your slaves, yes? Sorta sounds to me like that's the "liberty" you want to enact upon this planet, instead of the afterlife.

Swordsmyth
11-17-2019, 03:25 PM
I'm trying to force you? Pardon me but I only made a rational suggestion, given the facts of the situation and the realities of what this society will tolerate, to any one that thinks it is indeed an existential crisis. If there's one thing I can't do it's force people to have children. So let's simmer down with such ridiculous claims that I'm trying to force anyone to do anything and especially something as absurd as forcing people to breed. No one is rounding up and deporting millions of immigrants. Not happening. Stop talking about it. It makes you look delusional to keep suggesting it as even a possibility.

I am supporting liberty right now, wherever I happen to see it. You're hoping for some hazy vision of liberty somewhere down the road in the future, which will be somehow obtained by somehow continuing the current liberty-less status quo, while actually removing the relatively few people that actually are living in real freedom today. Newsflash: THERE IS NO LIBERTY IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN (U.S. Citizen) EXCEPT THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE BETWEEN 15 FLAVORS OF HFCS ICE CREAM. When I see actual free people here, even if they often don't realize the gift they have, I will never advocate to remove them. In fact, I just wish some of them weren't in such a hurry to "legalize" themselves and lock on the chains of the Rothschild BAR debt slave banking legal system. I suspect that your hazy vision of future liberty is merely white religious Mormon rule over the world. You are told that upon death you get your own little planet to lord over and all of the inhabitants are your slaves, yes? Sorta sounds to me like that's the "liberty" you want to enact upon this planet, instead of the afterlife.
:sleeping:

TheTexan
11-17-2019, 03:37 PM
The authors from Yale School of Management, Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, Jonathan S. Feinstein, Edward H. Kaplan, said the average in their new model is about 22 million

Send him back!

tommyrp12
11-22-2019, 10:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4fmpVg0w8s