Kavanaugh 2.0 - Jim Jordan Faces Accusations From Almost 40 Years Ago

[dannno]

Impeccable timing isn't it?

Did Jim Jordan molest boys on a high school wrestling team for which he was the assistant coach??

Fuck no.

But he was an assistant coach on a high school wrestling team, and some of the guys who were on the team are now coming forward and saying that they were molested by their school nurse.

They claim Jim Jordan had to have known about it, because they joked about it in the locker room on almost a daily basis. They do not claim that he actively covered it up, but the media is claiming that is what he did.

Whether Jim Jordan even heard them or not, or knew whether they were joking or what, who knows. None of them came to him directly to report the improprieties. Keep in mind this shit happened almost 40 years ago.

Not linking to any bullshit MSM articles.

[dannno]

Does this have anything to do with it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcv2pQ1PsU

[Swordsmyth]

Does this have anything to do with it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcv2pQ1PsU
That and the fact that he is likely to be the next Speaker of the House.

[Stratovarious]

Thank god, its about time, this is some serious sht and not just another malicious witch hunt and persecution bent on prosecution,
of that which no one really knows anything about nor has proof of .....


:frog:

[TheCount]

It's a good thing for Gym Jordan that there's a statute of limitations on certain people's supposed concern about the pedophile elites running Washington.

[Swordsmyth]

It's a good thing for Gym Jordan that there's a statute of limitations on certain people's supposed concern about the pedophile elites running Washington.
Because dubious accusations that he should have known about it are the same as being a pedo?

[TheCount]

Because dubious accusations that he should have known about it are the same as being a pedo?

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.

[donnay]

These people are sooooooooo predictable anymore. Jordan is effective in exposing the sham of an impeachment hearing they are conducting.

[dannno]

It's a good thing for Gym Jordan that there's a statute of limitations on certain people's supposed concern about the pedophile elites running Washington.

So we are supposed to ignore actual pedophiles who actually sacrifice and have sex with children and run Washington DC, because this guy didn't report jokes that he may or may not have heard in a boys high school locker room almost 40 years ago?

Are you fucking insane?

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.
That's not the only evidence.
And creepy artwork of the kind you refer to is much stronger evidence than obviously politically motivated dubious accusations that he should have known something. (not even that he participated)

[Swordsmyth]

So we are supposed to ignore actual pedophiles who actually sacrifice and have sex with children and run Washington DC, because this guy didn't report jokes that he may or may not have heard in a boys high school locker room almost 40 years ago?

Are you $#@!ing insane?
I wonder if he has some "creepy artwork" of his own.

[dannno]

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.

Keep making a fool of yourself.

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/12/efits-podesta.jpg?resize=600,808

Remember in the hacked emails, that the Podestas discussed travel plans to the very city in Portugal where this little girl was abducted, to stay at a friends house who lived less than a mile from where she was abducted.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/nintchdbpict000261712979.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

Keep making a fool of yourself.

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/12/efits-podesta.jpg?resize=600,808

Remember in the hacked emails, that the Podestas discussed traveling to the very city where this little girl was abducted, to stay at a friends house who lived less than a mile from where she was abducted.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/nintchdbpict000261712979.jpg

Her eyes look exactly like those of a girl I know and care for, down to the gold fleck.
It may not make rational sense but I hate them more than ever now.

[eleganz]

It's a good thing for Gym Jordan that there's a statute of limitations on certain people's supposed concern about the pedophile elites running Washington.

You had me there.


That and the fact that he is likely to be the next Speaker of the House.

I don't know, the majority of either party are spineless. I will say Mcarthy has it in the bag, he used to be whip. You are not whip unless you know how to get the votes.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't know, the majority of either party are spineless. I will say Mcarthy has it in the bag, he used to be whip. You are not whip unless you know how to get the votes.
Jordan was running against him until the Demoncrats took the House so he must have thought he had a chance and many RINOs have left the House since then.
I say he's the next Speaker easily.

[Gumba of Liberty]

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.

You’re a douche

Edit: At best

[jon4liberty]

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.

I hope you and your handler's burn in hell for all the sick and disgusting crimes against humanity

[TheCount]

https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2016/12/efits-podesta.jpg?resize=600,808

It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.


The email that you mentioned? Doesn't exist.


So, yeah, thanks for illustrating how the Gym Jordan evidence is less tenuous and circumstantial as your beloved Pizzagate evidence.

[TheCount]

You’re a douche

Edit: At best


I hope you and your handler's burn in hell for all the sick and disgusting crimes against humanity

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that Santa Claus isn't real.

[Gumba of Liberty]

I hope you and your handler's burn in hell for all the sick and disgusting crimes against humanity

+1

[Swordsmyth]

It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.


The email that you mentioned? Doesn't exist.


So, yeah, thanks for illustrating how the Gym Jordan evidence is less tenuous and circumstantial as your beloved Pizzagate evidence.
There is far more evidence than that and even that is far more than dubious 40 year old accusations that Jordan might have known something.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that Santa Claus isn't real.

GOD is.

And millstones about the neck to drown in the sea would be too good for pedos.

[TheCount]

There is far more evidence than that and even that is far more than dubious 40 year old accusations that Jordan might have known something.

Sounds legit.



Tell me: Which of the two has actual victims who have come forward?

[Brian4Liberty]

Impeccable timing isn't it?

Did Jim Jordan molest boys on a high school wrestling team for which he was the assistant coach??

Fuck no.

But he was an assistant coach on a high school wrestling team, and some of the guys who were on the team are now coming forward and saying that they were molested by their school nurse.

They claim Jim Jordan had to have known about it, because they joked about it in the locker room on almost a daily basis. They do not claim that he actively covered it up, but the media is claiming that is what he did.

Whether Jim Jordan even heard them or not, or knew whether they were joking or what, who knows. None of them came to him directly to report the improprieties. Keep in mind this shit happened almost 40 years ago.

Not linking to any bullshit MSM articles.

They pulled this nonsense out a couple of years ago when Jordan was running for Speaker or something. Nothingburger.

[Swordsmyth]

It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.
It's a sketch of a suspect described by a witness, liar.
And it seems that it could have been either one of the two.

The Smiths saw the man at around 22:00 on Rua da Escola Primária, 500 yards (460 m) from the McCanns' apartment, walking away from the Ocean Club and toward Rua 25 de Abril and the beach. He was carrying a girl aged 3–4 years. She had blonde hair and pale skin, was wearing light-coloured pyjamas, and had bare feet. The man was mid-30s, 5 ft 7 in–5 ft 9 in (1.75–1.80 m), slim-to-normal build, with short brown hair, wearing cream or beige trousers. He did not look like a tourist, according to the Smiths, and had seemed uncomfortable carrying the child.[63] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#cite_note-McCann2011p98-65)[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#cite_note-66) E-fits based on the Smiths testimony were first created in 2008 by Oakley International, private investigators hired by the McCanns, and were publicized in 2013 by Scotland Yard on Crimewatch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimewatch).[65] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#cite_note-67)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2b/Efit_images_of_Madeleine_McCann_suspect.jpg/260px-Efit_images_of_Madeleine_McCann_suspect.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Efit_images_of_Madeleine_McCann_suspect.jpg) E-fit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-fit) images of the Smith sighting, released by Scotland Yard (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_Yard) in 2013[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#cite_note-Laville14Oct2013-9)

[Swordsmyth]

Tell me: Which of the two has actual victims who have come forward?
There are none with Jordan.

And there are other kinds of evidence that are better than politically motivated accusations.

[TheCount]

It's a sketch of a suspect described by a witness, liar.

Seems that you can't remember the rules that you claim to care so much about. Nobody should be surprised by that, though. You are completely unprincipled.



Also, you seem to have used the singular and not the plural.

And the pictured person is not now and was never a wanted suspect. Correct?



And it seems that it could have been either one of the two.

Oh yeah, definitely. Or it could have been both. Maybe one of them put her down and then the other one picked her back up.


Of course, they'd have had to have been in Portugal. Were they?

[TheCount]

There are none with Jordan.

That seems really, really unlikely:


Ohio State says it’s aware of 1,429 instances of fondling and 47 instances of rape involving Strauss

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/11/08/second-person-says-he-told-rep-jim-jordan-about-sexual-misconduct-ohio-state/



And there are other kinds of evidence that are better than politically motivated accusations.

But no victims.

And no witnesses.

And no basements.

[Swordsmyth]

Seems that you can't remember the rules that you claim to care so much about. Nobody should be surprised by that, though. You are completely unprincipled.
Whatever that even means.




Also, you seem to have used the singular and not the plural.
So?
The fact that there were multiple witnesses doesn't change anything in your favor.



And the pictured person is not now and was never a wanted suspect. Correct?
Whether the police ever said he was wanted or decided not to take on a powerful political operative isn't relevant.





Oh yeah, definitely. Or it could have been both. Maybe one of them put her down and then the other one picked her back up.
It's far better evidence of kidnapping than anything brought against Jordan.


Of course, they'd have had to have been in Portugal. Were they?
Witnesses may have seen them there.
And there is lots of evidence that they may be involved in child theft and abuse.

Your desperation to defend them is telling as is your pitiful attempt to smear Jordan on much weaker grounds. (Jordan isn't even accused of harming anyone or actively participating in any way)

[Swordsmyth]

That seems really, really unlikely:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/11/08/second-person-says-he-told-rep-jim-jordan-about-sexual-misconduct-ohio-state/




But no victims.

And no witnesses.

And no basements.
No victims of Jordan, none have even made politically motivated accusations that he victimized anyone.

You have nothing and there is a vast amount of evidence against those you defend.

[Anti Globalist]

Unfortunately for the MSM, most people are going to think this is complete and utter bs.

[TheCount]

Whatever that even means.

Report yourself.



Whether the police ever said he was wanted or decided not to take on a powerful political operative isn't relevant.

Police? They didn't make the sketches.






It's far better evidence of kidnapping than anything brought against Jordan.

Oh, it's solid evidence of kidnapping.


It's just as good evidence that you kidnapped her as Podesta, though. Where were you in May of 2007? Portugal?



Witnesses may have seen them there.

Solid. 10/10. A+ would arrest.



And there is lots of evidence that they may be involved in child theft and abuse.

Nope.



(Jordan isn't even accused of harming anyone or actively participating in any way)

Is that your standard for which pedophiles should be allowed to be in government and which pedophiles should not be allowed to be in government?

[Swordsmyth]

Report yourself.
:sleeping:





Police? They didn't make the sketches.
That doesn't mean they weren't aware of them.








Oh, it's solid evidence of kidnapping.


It's just as good evidence that you kidnapped her as Podesta, though. Where were you in May of 2007? Portugal?
I don't look like that and I don't have lots of evidence against me that I am a pedo.





Solid. 10/10. A+ would arrest.
Did anyone say it was enough for an arrest all by itself?





Nope.
Yup.





Is that your standard for which pedophiles should be allowed to be in government and which pedophiles should not be allowed to be in government?
If he isn't even accused of being a pedophile then he can't be called one.
And the accusations against him are dubious in the extreme and obviously politically motivated.

You are getting truly pathetic.

[dannno]

It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.

Wow thanks Snopes, you are so helpful!!!

It's really amazing the shit you believe.. First of all, a "witness" to a child abduction like that could be involved as a lookout to make sure everything runs smoothly. That's probably why the police released this:

https://i0.wp.com/www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Police-sketch-of-abductors-e1479769982466.jpg?resize=600%2C338&ssl=1

It was likely that the man who physically kidnapped her was their friend, Clement Freud (actually a decedent of Sigmund). He is the one who owns a place less than a third of a mile from where she was kidnapped.

The only email I saw was this one, and it is legit:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23724

The FBI leaked the info about their whereabouts on 4chan.

Anyway, I don't need to convince you, just looking at that photo of those two next to the police sketch is enough to skeeze most people out, especially after they have seen Tony's artwork.

I mean, if you took a photo of those two at the age they were when the kidnapping took place and turned it into a police sketch using photoshop, you couldn't get any closer than that. Those police sketches are amazing. And they sure as fuck aren't the same person.. Although they do happen to be brothers. The error happened due to either a paperwork error or because recollections from various witnesses to an event are always a bit hazy.

[dannno]

But no victims.

And no witnesses.

And no basements.

Wow, thanks Snopes!!


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https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/

[TheCount]

Wow, thanks Snopes!!



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https://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/


Take your AR-15 with you when you go to get pictures of it.

[jmdrake]

Impeccable timing isn't it?

Did Jim Jordan molest boys on a high school wrestling team for which he was the assistant coach??

$#@! no.

But he was an assistant coach on a high school wrestling team, and some of the guys who were on the team are now coming forward and saying that they were molested by their school nurse.

They claim Jim Jordan had to have known about it, because they joked about it in the locker room on almost a daily basis. They do not claim that he actively covered it up, but the media is claiming that is what he did.

Whether Jim Jordan even heard them or not, or knew whether they were joking or what, who knows. None of them came to him directly to report the improprieties. Keep in mind this $#@! happened almost 40 years ago.

Not linking to any bull$#@! MSM articles.

I'm curious. What are you thoughts about the fact that Bret Kavanaugh was part of the Skull and Bones and the MSM at best glossed over and at worst whitewashed this fact?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/the-yale-secret-society-brett-kavanaugh-joined-was-mostly

The second Kavanaugh accuser described something that sounded like a ritual the Skull and Bones would do. Per her story, it was a drinking game where the bottle kept landing on her for some odd reason, and then someone put a dildo in her face, then later someone put a penis in her face. She saw Bret zipping up his pants and laughing. Considering how the S & B operates that could have been done to get blackmail on all involved including Kavanaugh, and yet done in such a way that it was impossible to directly incriminate anyone.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm curious. What are you thoughts about the fact that Bret Kavanaugh was part of the Skull and Bones and the MSM at best glossed over and at worst whitewashed this fact?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/the-yale-secret-society-brett-kavanaugh-joined-was-mostly

The second Kavanaugh accuser described something that sounded like a ritual the Skull and Bones would do. Per her story, it was a drinking game where the bottle kept landing on her for some odd reason, and then someone put a dildo in her face, then later someone put a penis in her face. She saw Bret zipping up his pants and laughing. Considering how the S & B operates that could have been done to get blackmail on all involved including Kavanaugh, and yet done in such a way that it was impossible to directly incriminate anyone.
The total lack of credibility of the accusers and their political motivation is the only answer that needs.

If you find actual credible evidence against anyone please do let us know and then we will care.

[dannno]

Take your AR-15 with you when you go to get pictures of it.

It's too bad you only drop in once in a while and miss all of the important threads.

Before that false flag patsy went into the pizza shop, we had been discussing about how a hacker had found child pornography on a password protected portion of Comet Pizza's website. They sent the information to the FBI to investigate.

As we were waiting for the FBI to do something (hah!), suddenly they sent out the patsy to create a staged false flag. There were two purposes.

If you look closely at the picture below, the computer at the pizza shop which contained the web server for their website was shot by the one shot that the gunman got off, and the hard drive was destroyed:

https://steemitimages.com/640x0/http://pizzagate.wiki/images/d/d1/CPP_bullet_hole.jpg

Another one of those "coincidences" I guess you would call it..

So the first purpose was to destroy the evidence of the child porn on Comet Pizza's website. The second purpose was to trick foolish people like you into believing that people investigating pizzagate are dangerous, as opposed to actual child sex traffickers.

This all seems pretty straightforward to me. But hey, keep going. What do you want to bring up next?

[dannno]

I'm curious. What are you thoughts about the fact that Bret Kavanaugh was part of the Skull and Bones and the MSM at best glossed over and at worst whitewashed this fact?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mollyhensleyclancy/the-yale-secret-society-brett-kavanaugh-joined-was-mostly

The second Kavanaugh accuser described something that sounded like a ritual the Skull and Bones would do. Per her story, it was a drinking game where the bottle kept landing on her for some odd reason, and then someone put a dildo in her face, then later someone put a penis in her face. She saw Bret zipping up his pants and laughing. Considering how the S & B operates that could have been done to get blackmail on all involved including Kavanaugh, and yet done in such a way that it was impossible to directly incriminate anyone.

Kavanaugh was not a Skull and Bones member, he was a Truth and Courage member. Allegedly it was a bunch of partying frat guys, not so much a secret society.

[jmdrake]

The total lack of credibility of the accusers and their political motivation is the only answer that needs.

If you find actual credible evidence against anyone please do let us know and then we will care.

I didn't ask you. I asked Dannno. I've never known you to be a conspiracy theorist.


Kavanaugh was not a Skull and Bones member, he was a Truth and Courage member. Allegedly it was a bunch of partying frat guys, not so much a secret society.

Okay.

[jon4liberty]

Take your AR-15 with you when you go to get pictures of it.

FED.....
I encourage my fellow RPFers out of love not to respond or acknowledge this fed. Entrapment of sorts is waiting around the corner with this guy

[TheCount]

It's too bad you only drop in once in a while and miss all of the important threads.

"Important" is relative. Things which are complete bullshit are rarely important to me.



Before that false flag patsy went into the pizza shop, we had been discussing about how a hacker had found child pornography on a password protected portion of Comet Pizza's website. They sent the information to the FBI to investigate.

Oh good, now we're two layers deep in imaginary things for which you do not have and have never seen any evidence. Not only have you not responded at all to the fact that your first set of beliefs are entirely unjustified, you're adding a whole new layer of nothing on top as though it hides the nothing beneath.

Also, sounds legit.



As we were waiting for the FBI to do something (hah!), suddenly they sent out the patsy to create a staged false flag. There were two purposes.

One of many problems with your delusion is that this doesn't make the version of the information that the "hacker" "found" on the "website" disappear.

[TheCount]

FED.....
I encourage my fellow RPFers out of love not to respond or acknowledge this fed. Entrapment of sorts is waiting around the corner with this guy

It must be a sad state of life to simply not understand the concept of a joke.

[dannno]

One of many problems with your delusion is that this doesn't make the version of the information that the "hacker" "found" on the "website" disappear.

Uh, ya, but it makes it hard to prove definitively that it was actually on their website. Especially months or years down the road.

All I'm asking is to put yourself in our shoes, and you can't even do that.

We were all following a story about a suspected child trafficker who had a website with a password protected portion containing child porn.

In order to quash the story about the suspected child trafficker, they send a patsy to the pizza restaurant to make anybody investigating said child trafficker appear to be the "dangerous" ones in the eyes of the public. It really was genius, and it worked perfectly.

On top of that, the patsy goes in and shoots a hard drive that contained evidence that we all had been waiting for weeks for the FBI to analyze. There was one fucking bullet hole in the entire place. The chances of it hitting the hard drive that we were all waiting to be analyzed by the FBI has got to be at least a million to one. So you believe in a million to one coincidence.

If you don't think that our position that this was really sketchy is reasonable in this case, then you aren't a reasonable person. End of story.

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't ask you. I asked Dannno. I've never known you to be a conspiracy theorist.
Then you don't know me well.

But I still need more than politically motivated claims by obvious liars before I believe this kind of thing.

[TheCount]

All I'm asking is to put yourself in our shoes, and you can't even do that.

In whose shoes?



We were all following a story about a suspected child trafficker who had a website with a password protected portion containing child porn.

Neither of the two most important parts of that sentence are true.

[dannno]

In whose shoes?

The people here who were paying attention when we had the suspected child trafficker's website hacked and were waiting to hear back from the FBI.. when all of a sudden in a million to one chance, the hard drive gets shot by a false flag patsy.





Neither of the two most important parts of that sentence are true.

The only person who could definitively make that statement is Alefantis.

Are you Alefantis? You know what that means in French, right? You might want to have your name changed if that is the case.

[TheCount]

The people here who were paying attention when we had the suspected child trafficker's website hacked and were waiting to hear back from the FBI.. when all of a sudden in a million to one chance, the hard drive gets shot by a false flag patsy.

I put myself in the shoes of those people every time I open up the Q thread.

They are clown shoes.



The only person who could definitively make that statement is Alefantis.

Or a person who isn't willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos.

[Stratovarious]

Seems that you can't remember the rules that you claim to care so much about. Nobody should be surprised by that, though. You are completely unprincipled.



Also, you seem to have used the singular and not the plural.

And the pictured person is not now and was never a wanted suspect. Correct?




Oh yeah, definitely. Or it could have been both. Maybe one of them put her down and then the other one picked her back up.


Of course, they'd have had to have been in Portugal. Were they?

Nice of you to stop by for some insults and personal attacks against Sword, also nice that you get a free
pass, and someone like Timosman gets banned for who the hell knows what.......

But why should we allow free speech on a Ron Paul Freedom Tree forum anyway, its so out dated.

[dannno]

Or a person who isn't willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos.

That is not a logical statement. A person who is not willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos like yourself still cannot definitively make that statement. Only Alefantis can.

[TheCount]

That is not a logical statement. A person who is not willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos like yourself still cannot definitively make that statement. Only Alefantis can.

No one can prove a negative. This is rather important to the clown shoe worldview, really, as their beliefs can never be disproven.


You say that there is proof that there was child porn on Comet Ping Pong's website. Go on, then, prove it.

[RJB]

Lol. The thread was about the ridiculous charges against "Gym" Jordan (quoting theCount). The way theCount has thoroughly changed the subject comes across as theCount's admission that this another nothing burger.

[Swordsmyth]

Lol. The thread was about the ridiculous charges against "Gym" Jordan (quoting theCount). The way theCount has thoroughly changed the subject comes across as theCount's admission that this another nothing burger.

Exactly.

We are to call Jordan a pedophile because dubious politically motivated accusations are made that he didn't have anything to do with any abuse but may have heard something about it.


But all the evidence against others for actual crimes is to be ignored.

[TheCount]

Lol. The thread was about the ridiculous charges against "Gym" Jordan (quoting theCount). The way theCount has thoroughly changed the subject comes across as theCount's admission that this another nothing burger.


Correct, they are both nothing burgers.


One of the two nothing burgers is a matter of religious belief.

[RJB]

Correct, they are both nothing burgers.


One of the two nothing burgers is a matter of religious belief.
So then why did you pretend that "Gym" Jordan was a pedo? Just for fun?

[TheCount]

So then why did you pretend that "Gym" Jordan was a pedo? Just for fun?

I didn't. I even said that the accusations against him were ridiculous.


All I did was point out - with the generous assistance of a couple of other posters - that certain ridiculous and unfounded accusations are taken as a matter of faith while others are discarded.


Here's my post:

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.

[RJB]

I didn't. I even said that the accusations against him were ridiculous.


All I did was point out - with the generous assistance of a couple of other posters - that certain ridiculous and unfounded accusations are taken as a matter of faith while others are discarded.


Here's my post:

Sure Gym.

[TheCount]

Sure Gym.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't. I even said that the accusations against him were ridiculous.


All I did was point out - with the generous assistance of a couple of other posters - that certain ridiculous and unfounded accusations are taken as a matter of faith while others are discarded.


Here's my post:
All of a sudden you want us to believe you weren't using sarcasm?

Try explaining these:


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by TheCount http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=6884602#post6884602)
It's a good thing for Gym Jordan that there's a statute of limitations on certain people's supposed concern about the pedophile elites running Washington.


(that was your 1st post)
Why would it be a good thing unless you mean that he is guilty?


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by TheCount http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=6884725#post6884725)
It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.


The email that you mentioned? Doesn't exist.


So, yeah, thanks for illustrating how the Gym Jordan evidence is less tenuous and circumstantial as your beloved Pizzagate evidence.


Not only are you wrong as I showed in my reply but you are claiming that the "evidence" against Jordan has some substance to it which it has not.


Sounds legit.



Tell me: Which of the two has actual victims who have come forward?
Implying that Jordan has "victims" when even the liars who have come forward don't claim he victimized them.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by TheCount http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=6884748#post6884748)

Is that your standard for which pedophiles should be allowed to be in government and which pedophiles should not be allowed to be in government?


Directly calling Jordan a pedo.

[TheCount]

All of a sudden you want us to believe you weren't using sarcasm?

Of course not, I'm always using sarcasm.



Try explaining these:

(that was your 1st post)
Why would it be a good thing unless you mean that he is guilty?

It's a good thing for him because otherwise the Pizzagate faithful would hound him to the ends of the earth.



Not only are you wrong as I showed in my reply but you are claiming that the "evidence" against Jordan has some substance to it which it has not.

Jordan's events involve actual people instead of imaginary people. That is a substantive difference.


Implying that Jordan has "victims" when even the liars who have come forward don't claim he victimized them.

Implying that Podesta has "victims" when...



Directly calling Jordan a pedo.

You're either intentionally or unintentionally missing the context. For those who imagine pedos to be lurking in every nook and cranny, it's strange that they do not consider him to be a pedo.

If imaginary pedo is an important category of pedo, then it's important that we apply that category consistently.

[dannno]

No one can prove a negative. This is rather important to the clown shoe worldview, really, as their beliefs can never be disproven.


You say that there is proof that there was child porn on Comet Ping Pong's website. Go on, then, prove it.

You're the one who was claiming you could prove a negative. All I did was say that you couldn't.

I said we had been told there was proof that they had child porn on their website, and then somebody went in and conveniently shot the hard drive on the computer that had the website. Either it was done on purpose, or it was a million to one coincidence. I also said there are police sketches of the Podesta brothers that were involved and on the scene at a child abduction, they look exactly like them.

Any reasonable person, any investigator, any prosecutor is going to say that is enough evidence to look more into what was going on, at minimum. More investigation is required. Question witnesses, get evidence, etc. I know exactly what they will find if they did that, because I know a lot more about this shit than most people. But there is enough evidence right in front of us that it is worth investigating. We know why it hasn't been, the same reason Epstein got a slap on the wrist and got to abuse girls for another 10 years after he went through the court system.

[Swordsmyth]

You're the one who was claiming you could prove a negative. All I did was say that you couldn't.

I said we had been told there was proof that they had child porn on their website, and then somebody went in and conveniently shot the hard drive on the computer that had the website. Either it was done on purpose, or it was a million to one coincidence. I also said there are police sketches of the Podesta brothers that were involved and on the scene at a child abduction, they look exactly like them.

Any reasonable person, any investigator, any prosecutor is going to say that is enough evidence to look more into what was going on, at minimum. More investigation is required. Question witnesses, get evidence, etc. I know exactly what they will find if they did that, because I know a lot more about this $#@! than most people. But there is enough evidence right in front of us that it is worth investigating. We know why it hasn't been, the same reason Epstein got a slap on the wrist and got to abuse girls for another 10 years after he went through the court system.
And yet he asks us to believe that dubious politically motivated accusations that Jordan might have known something are as bad or worse.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

This Jim Jordan thing doesn't seem to be getting much in the way of traction, even in corporate media. They might not care about truth, but they do care about salaciousness and this is weak tea.

[TheCount]

I said we had been told there was proof that they had child porn on their website, and then somebody went in and conveniently shot the hard drive on the computer that had the website.

Believing that the computer that was shot was hosting their website requires an additional layer of religious faith.



I also said there are police sketches of the Podesta brothers that were involved and on the scene at a child abduction

Which is false



Any reasonable person, any investigator, any prosecutor is going to say that is enough evidence to look more into what was going on, at minimum.

What evidence?



A chaturbate video said something that you want to believe is true
There are two sketches of one guy, but those two sketches actually look like two guys, so maybe the witness was wrong when they said that it was one guy and instead it was actually two guys

[dannno]

Believing that the computer that was shot was hosting their website requires an additional layer of religious faith.

Not if it was hosting child porn.. if it was hosting child porn they are going to be doing it on an encrypted local machine, likely at the place of business, not on a server that somebody else controls.




Which is false


I guess you are blind, because it looks EXACTLY like them. Fortunately shit like this really exposes the nature of people like you. When there is a police photo that looks like somebody, you report it and it gets investigated. It looks like them. Time to investigate. The bullshit explanations you have made don't stand up to scrutiny. It looks like them, time to investigate.

Why don't we start by showing the photos to the witness(es) who made the sketch, and show them pictures of the Podestas from that time and see what they say instead of relying on some bullshit explanation from a faulty police report? That is how things work in real life when investigating serious crimes.

Only serious douchbags protect people just because they have a lot of power in government.

[TheCount]

Not if it was hosting child porn.. if it was hosting child porn they are going to be doing it on an encrypted local machine, likely at the place of business, not on a server that somebody else controls.

This is what amounts to evidence in your world.

As I said, religious faith.




I guess you are blind, because it looks EXACTLY like them.

One person looks like both of them?

[dannno]

This is what amounts to evidence in your world.

Facts are evidence, yes, that is true.





One person looks like both of them?

Why don't we just ask the witness(es) who helped create the sketches so we can get that cleared up instead of relying on a faulty police report? Is that too much to ask? Isn't that what normally would happen for anything else, including burglary, etc?

Oh, that's right, you are a pedo protector. You go to great lengths to defend pedophiles. According to you, we definitely shouldn't look into anything suspicious if it is related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people.

I'm not a Christian, I have no idea if Christianity is even true. One thing I will tell you, is that if it is true, you are definitely going to hell. To the very bottom of it.

If there is a place where evil people go after they die on earth, that is where you will be.

[TheCount]

Oh, that's right, you are a pedo protector. You go to great lengths to defend pedophiles. According to you, we definitely shouldn't look into anything suspicious if it is related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people.

You mean like investigating Gym Jordan? Isn't that related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people?





I'm not a Christian, I have no idea if Christianity is even true. One thing I will tell you, is that if it is true, you are definitely going to hell. To the very bottom of it.

If there is a place where evil people go after they die on earth, that is where you will be.

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

[dannno]

You mean like investigating Gym Jordan? Isn't that related to finding pedophiles, especially if they are powerful people?

This would be a bannable offense if this was my forum. You would have been gone a long time ago. You should be grateful for how tolerant this forum is for the few people who purposely lie and spout bullshit on here all day long like yourself.

Clearly, Jordan was not actually accused of pedophilia. He was accused of not reporting a school nurse that students had joked about abusing them in the locker room, which, allegedly, he may or may not have heard.

The students said they "thought" he "must" have heard them talking (aka "joking") about it, but none of them personally discussed it with him.

That means, so far, there is no evidence for a case. Find a witness who approached him and said he was concerned because he was abused by the school nurse, or some evidence that Jim Jordan knew or covered it up, then let's investigate more. Until then, there is no case.

[TheCount]

This would be a bannable offense if this was my forum. You would have been gone a long time ago. You should be grateful for how tolerant this forum is for people who purposely lie and spout bullshit on here all day long.

Sir, this is a Wendy's.




Clearly, Jordan was not actually accused of pedophilia. He was accused of not reporting a school nurse that students had joked about abusing them in the locker room, which, allegedly, he may or may not have heard.

Things which should be investigated:


A computer which someone on the internet thinks maybe could have hosted a website which someone else on the internet said had files on it that yet another person on the internet said were child pornography, even though there's no evidence that the computer hosted the site, or that it had the files on it, or that the files on the website were actually child pornography
Two sketches of one guy which, according to someone on the internet, look like they might actually be one sketch of two guys who live two thousand miles away



Things which should not be investigated:

Allegations of actual sexual misconduct which may have actually occured

[dannno]

Things which should not be investigated:

Allegations of actual sexual misconduct which may have actually occured



They can investigate it for the purposes of punishing school nurse, I have no problem with that. If something comes up implicating Jim Jordan, let me know. So far the issue is that there is zero evidence that Jim Jordan did anything wrong, new about it, or covered it up. In fact, the evidence points to the opposite conclusion.

I can name countless pieces of evidence worth investigating over pizzagate. The problem is whenever I name, them, you cherry pick and mischaracterize. That is your MO.

[Swordsmyth]

This would be a bannable offense if this was my forum. You would have been gone a long time ago. You should be grateful for how tolerant this forum is for the few people who purposely lie and spout bull$#@! on here all day long like yourself.
It's that tolerance that is killing this forum.