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enhanced_deficit
11-12-2019, 01:04 PM
Manager: Trump family building ‘dynasty’ for decades to come
September 7, 2019
INDIAN WELLS, Calif. (AP) — President Donald Trump’s campaign manager predicted Saturday that the president and his family will become “a dynasty that will last for decades,” transforming the Republican Party while hewing to conservative values.

Don Jr. Will Run For President in 2024 and He'll Likely Win Nomination, GOP Strategist Says
newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-will-run-president-2024-hell-likely-win-republican-nomination-gop-strategist-1457953



Don Jr's political stature has been rising but he is not there yet. If one is to speculate looking at current electorate trends, Ivanka Trump seems to have better political future and Presidential prospects than Jr.



Don Jr. Pros:

A moderate, hybrid (semi Democrat - semi Republican) candidate with bi-partisan appeal like his dad

New NAFTA Trade deal champion
'Conservative' rising star Donald Jr says USMCA (NAFTA 2.0) great for US (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540576-Conservative-rising-star-Donald-Jr-says-USMCA-(NAFTA-2-0)-great-for-US&)

Hunting rights champion

https://3h7pwd17k2h42n17eg2j7vdq-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/donjr-820x550.jpg



Strong leadership in support of his dad's global campaigns for LGBTQ rights and against anti-semitism

Donald Trump Jr.‏ Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr
This is a really big deal and with @Richardgrenell at the helm it will get done!!! Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081 … (https://t.co/rICBRuJ7GK) via @nbcnews

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/matt-lashey-ambassador-richard-grenell-and-donald-trump-jr-attend-picture-id955504130
New US Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell with husband Matt Lashey and Don Jr.

MAGA Rainbow Wave: Nearly 100 LGBTQ candidates claim victory in Tuesday's elections (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540910-MAGA-Rainbow-Wave-Nearly-100-LGBTQ-candidates-claim-victory-in-Tuesday-s-elections&)
Nov 6, 2019


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/27/22/12801124-0-image-a-34_1556402052227.jpg


Successful Businessman
Some say better than his dad

Thoughtful, Literary
Has already authored a book, "Triggered".




Don Jr. Cons:

Has never served in office, Trump picked more talented Ivanka & Jared for Senior White House adviser roles and political grooming
(America's interests more important than personal business interests to America-First leader)

Unlikely to win funding from respected gloablsit neoconservative MAGA top donor Adelsons

Has no track record on important US foreign policy, global wars/interventions issues.

Has never visited Israel or worked on a joint project with Likud star Netanyahu

Recently offended "an ultra-conservative, nationalist and isolationist subset of the president’s “America first” supporters."
Trump Jr. Walks Out Of Event Promoting His Book After He’s Heckled, Booed By Conservatives (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?541020-Trump-Jr-Walks-Out-Of-Event-Promoting-His-Book-After-He’s-Heckled-Booed-By-Conservatives&)





Ivanka (Sr. WH adviser) Pros:

A moderate, hybrid (semi Democrat - semi Republican) candidate with bi-partisan appeal like her dad

Valuable domestic/foreign policy experience under the wing of none other than MAGA himself who is known to surround himself with the best
Trump says Ivanka would be hard to beat for president (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533460-Trump-says-Ivanka-would-be-hard-to-beat-for-president&)
Donald Trump carried out Syria missile strike ‘after being convinced by daughter Ivanka’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509520-Donald-Trump-carried-out-Syria-missile-strike-‘after-being-convinced-by-daughter-Ivanka’&)
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533460-Trump-says-Ivanka-would-be-hard-to-beat-for-president&)https://pics.me.me/thumb_eric-trump-ivanka-trump-influenced-decision-to-launch-syria-strikes-19161450.png


Played important role in Israel Embassy move working closely with Likud star Netanyahu

US embassy in Jerusalem opens Monday, Ivanka arrives
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522238-US-embassy-in-Jerusalem-opens-Mon-Ivanka-arrives-Bachmann-apologizes-for-Jews-conversion-rem&)
https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/gettyimages-958498918.jpg

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522238-US-embassy-in-Jerusalem-opens-Mon-Ivanka-arrives-Bachmann-apologizes-for-Jews-conversion-rem&p=6628676&viewfull=1#post6628676)
Will easily win funding from respected gloablsit neoconservative MAGA top donor Adelsons

Played a role in pushing MAGA towards Woke values, Social Justice issues/prison reforms, minorities outreach initiatives for 2020, Rocky A$AP release etc

Strong leadership on gun control
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538205-Trump-s-Sr-Advisor-Ivanka-is-Advising-Her-Father-to-Stand-For-Gun-Control&)Trump's Sr. Advisor Ivanka is Advising Her Father to Stand For Gun Control (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538205-Trump-s-Sr-Advisor-Ivanka-is-Advising-Her-Father-to-Stand-For-Gun-Control&)



Ivanka (Sr. WH adviser) Cons:

Offended anti-DACA, pro Roy Moore, pro Jeff Sessions Conservative rising star Steve Bannon
Steve Bannon pledges to 'go nuclear' on 'West Wing Democrats' and vows to target Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/19/steve-bannon-go-nuclear-west-wing-democrats-may-start-tv-network/)

Failed to stop fellow Sr. WH Advisor Kushner from holding secret meetings with foreign officials/making MIC deals
Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson describes Jared Kushner’s secret diplomacy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?541012-Neocon-Nikki-Haley-says-top-Trump-aides-tried-to-recruit-her-to-undermine-President&p=6883105&viewfull=1#post6883105)


Alienated pro-peace NY media while playing important role in Israel Embassy move
NYDN's controversial cover featuring First Daughter uses G-word (https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/G5Z0ybb34n9C8kxtKaK82V0pHd8=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/7Y3DH4IUH3TXMR2P5OQJKPTFHQ.jpg)






Potentially-Related

If Trump resigns...... (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540282-if-Trump-resigns&)

Anti Globalist
11-12-2019, 01:07 PM
Don Jr will definitely have a more successful campaign when compared to his sister.

acptulsa
11-12-2019, 01:18 PM
Why is the MSM so focused on Royal Lines of Succession these days?

Look at Britain. When their old lady dies, they get this:

https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/03/22/prince-charles_1.jpg

Think they wouldn't rather have an open election?

Sammy
11-12-2019, 02:26 PM
I cannot stand Ivanka Trump.
Don Junior is okay. I hope Rand Paul runs for President!

Anti Globalist
11-12-2019, 03:54 PM
Why is the MSM so focused on Royal Lines of Succession these days?

Look at Britain. When their old lady dies, they get this:

https://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/full/public/2018/03/22/prince-charles_1.jpg

Think they wouldn't rather have an open election?
Prince Charles is in failing health from what I've heard. He'll probably die before the old lady does.

eleganz
11-12-2019, 09:11 PM
Between all three of them, thats an additional 21 years of full time spamming here on RPF, E_D.

Anti Globalist
11-12-2019, 09:25 PM
Maybe the entire Trump family should run for president from this point on forward, eventually leading up to Barrons run for president.

acptulsa
11-12-2019, 09:31 PM
Between all three of them, thats an additional 21 years of full time spamming here on RPF, E_D.

Don't despair. It's job security for all the Trump Distraction Shylls on both sides of The Artificial Divide.


Maybe the entire Trump family should run for president from this point on forward, eventually leading up to Barrons run for president.

I'm pretty sure Jenna Bush will get her turn first. Unless she's as bad a candidate as Hilldog.

TheTexan
11-12-2019, 09:45 PM
Don Jr will definitely have a more successful campaign when compared to his sister.

Ivanka Trump is still super sexy though, but not for much longer. If she wants to run for President she would need to do it soon.

enhanced_deficit
11-14-2019, 05:11 PM
On a related note, don't think there is a rule that Dynasty cannot be carried forward through in-laws.
Another MAGA groomed GOP rising star has been raising his poltica profile below the radar in a major way both domestically and internationally and had been parised by MAGA has 'very talented'.


Kushner 2024 Pros:


Jared Kushner hopes to 'eliminate borders' in the Middle East
(https://theweek.com/speedreads/826007/jared-kushner-hopes-eliminate-borders-middle-east)February 26, 2019

First son-in-law Jared Kushner's leadership
Jared Kushner is hosting a meeting with military and administration officials at the White House this Friday
Nov 14, 2019
Trump admin preparing to take over private land in Texas for border wall (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?541102-Trump-admin-preparing-to-take-over-private-land-in-Texas-for-border-wall&p=6884558&viewfull=1#post6884558)



Mexico's President gives Jared Kushner their nation’s greatest award for saving NAFTA (renamed USMCA)

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/97fee2f03ad98b1a62f5cf35444816789cf95bd3/c=310-0-5259-3712/local/-/media/2018/11/30/DetroitNews/B99725479Z.1_20181130105237_000_GE229H97E.2-0.jpg?width=534&height=401&fit=crop

The Order of the Aztec Eagle, issued by Mexico to foreigners who make a significant contribution to the country
November 30, 2018
Kushner was inducted into the Order of the Aztec Eagle. It’s an honour reserved for foreigners who make a significant contribution to Mexico’s wellbeing. In this case, it was for a trade agreement.


Meet Jared Kushner (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?497026-Meet-Jared-Kushner&)Kushner: Helped draft Donald Trump’s AIPAC speech, advises the presumptive Republican nominee for president on Israel issues and is involved in assembling his White House transition team; Kushner’s newspaper endorsed Trump for president
Kushner, the publisher of the New York Observer and husband of Ivanka Trump, is rising within the presumptive GOP nominee's world in the wake of campaign manager Corey Lewandowksi's ouster, sources within Trump's circle told NBC News.
http://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/5YX2NK7.jpg





Kushner 2024 Cons:

Jared Kushner is wreaking havoc in the Middle East
The entire Middle East, from Palestine to Yemen, appears set to burst into flames after this week. The region was already teetering on the edge, but recent events have only made things worse. And while the mayhem should be apparent to any casual observer, what’s less obvious is Jared Kushner’s role in the chaos. Kushner is, of course, the US president’s senior advisor and son-in-law. The 36-year-old is a Harvard graduate who seems to have a hard time filling in forms correctly (https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/12/politics/jared-kushner-background-check-form/index.html).
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/09/jared-kushner-wreaking-havoc-middle-east


“Morning Joe” co-hosts claim that the White House (Kushner) attempted to blackmail the morning show
https://www.thewrap.com/jared-kushner-told-morning-joe-to-apologize-to-trump-report/

Offended anti-DACA, pro Roy Moore, pro Jeff Sessions Conservative rising star Steve Bannon
Steve Bannon pledges to 'go nuclear' on 'West Wing Democrats' and vows to target Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/19/steve-bannon-go-nuclear-west-wing-democrats-may-start-tv-network/)

Accused of holding secret meetings with foreign officials/making MIC deals
Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson describes Jared Kushner’s secret diplomacy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?541012-Neocon-Nikki-Haley-says-top-Trump-aides-tried-to-recruit-her-to-undermine-President&p=6883105&viewfull=1#post6883105)

enhanced_deficit
01-05-2020, 01:22 AM
H/T Drudge:

Timing might be coincidence, no indication that this is due to boost of Trump popularity among pro Iran war demographics after anti-Iran strikes in Iraq few days ago:

https://www.bing.com/th/id/OIP.SQjt1l0RH35-ca9IamvTtQHaE9?w=272&h=180&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7
Trumps among top Republican picks for 2024... (https://www.axios.com/2024-election-polls-republicans-60f37160-a4fb-48e6-b054-22bd303604a6.html)



Related

Donald Trump carried out Syria missile strike ‘after being convinced by daughter Ivanka’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509520-Donald-Trump-carried-out-Syria-missile-strike-‘after-being-convinced-by-daughter-Ivanka’&)


Trump to host fundraiser for Booker (https://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/ivanka-trump-fundraiser-cory-booker-094288)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/23/article-2429926-18340D7100000578-401_634x403.jpg

Donald Jr says USMCA (NAFTA 2.0) great for US

Don Jr slams NYT over 'anti-semitic' cartoon featuring Netanyahu and Trump (https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/27/22/12801124-0-image-a-34_1556402052227.jpg)

bv3
01-05-2020, 01:40 AM
Look at those squishy faces. I'd bet they struggle with depth perception. Then again, the Trump name is associated with the efficient use of real estate, yeah? Why use up all that face on face. Its nice to see that Ivanka has recovered from her stroke. Jared's chin is taking on the aspect of his personality. All is right with the world.

PursuePeace
01-05-2020, 09:29 AM
:down: ugh. NO.

Warlord
01-05-2020, 09:33 AM
Rand should run in 2024 on a ticket of bring the troops home, no more wars just like Ron did but the GOP will be ready for that message by then. The public are sick of war.

SummersEve
01-05-2020, 09:38 AM
Ivanka is certainly attractive but she isn't very personable or likable. I doubt she would go very far on her own.

enhanced_deficit
02-11-2020, 01:37 AM
So far President seemed to favor Ivanka but GOP conservatives base seems to favor Jr.


Rally crowd chants '46' for Donald Trump Jr.

By Brett Samuels - 02/10/20

Attendees at President Trump's rally in New Hampshire on Monday chanted "46" when he introduced Donald Trump Jr., embracing the president's eldest son as a future candidate to follow his father into the Oval Office.

President Trump recognized roughly a dozen lawmakers and prominent conservatives at his Manchester rally, making his way to his children. He highlighted his daughter and senior adviser, Ivanka Trump (https://thehill.com/people/ivana-ivanka-trump), who joined him onstage. He then recognized his eldest son, who had spoken earlier at the event.
"Did Don Jr. make a good speech?" the president asked, prompting applause and chants of "46" from the crowd.


Some people in the audience chant 46 when Jr. comes on stage pic.twitter.com/FDfHL19UDQ (https://t.co/FDfHL19UDQ)
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) February 11, 2020 (https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1227027437168418816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


"They're good kids. They went through a lot with the hoax," Trump added, referencing his impeachment.
Trump Jr. is a regular presence on the campaign trail for his father, delivering speeches and attending fundraising events. Monday's chants in support of a future presidential campaign from Trump Jr. were the first of their kind during this year's presidential primary cycle.

Pundits have speculated (https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/428707-fox-friends-host-trump-jr-would-have-a-great-political-future) that Trump Jr. may run for governor or another office in New York. He has not ruled out a future life in politics.
A poll (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/476792-trump-jr-ivanka-garner-support-in-hypothetical-2024-poll) released last month showed 29 percent of Republicans and those leaning Republican would consider voting for Trump Jr. if he ran for president in 2024. He trailed only Vice President Pence in the poll.

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/482433-rally-crowd-chants-46-for-donald-trump-jr

kpitcher
02-11-2020, 04:48 AM
Not long ago the kids weren't even registered republicans so they couldn't vote for Trump in the primaries. But now that the GOP seems to be fully behind the guy that is against such common republican planks as balanced budgets, personal freedoms, and has even taken away gun rights that must not matter.

enhanced_deficit
02-11-2020, 12:27 PM
To be fair, many kids tend to follow in their parents footsteps when it comes to political choices.

Anti Globalist
02-11-2020, 12:47 PM
We've already have to deal with a father son presidency in the form of the Bushes. I don't want to have to deal with another pair so soon.

shakey1
02-11-2020, 12:53 PM
Meh.

enhanced_deficit
02-13-2020, 11:42 PM
We've already have to deal with a father son presidency in the form of the Bushes. I don't want to have to deal with another pair so soon.

I see you left open father daughter presidency scenario :)

RonZeplin
02-14-2020, 01:28 AM
I see you left open father daughter presidency scenario :)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9kCM2QF_0BE/maxresdefault.jpg

Will President Ivanka 46 grant Donnell a pardon at the end of her terms, 2033?

enhanced_deficit
02-14-2020, 12:16 PM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9kCM2QF_0BE/maxresdefault.jpg



Wow, CNN probably has replaced 2020 with 2024 now.

Within GOPAites, there seems to be greater support for Don Jr 2024 than Ivanka 2024. Even on this forum loaded with pro-liberties, anti-war purist libertarians, some remaining supporters of GOPA wing neocons funded politicians have expressed that sentiment. If I'm not mistaken some pragmatic libertarians like ss, one of the most prolific defenders of GOPA, have posted informative reports highlhting strong leadership of Don Jr and his allies like Richard Grenell. Other than President himself, no one else within family values based GOP seems to raise voice for Ivanka 2024. Looking at potential for attracting donors, Ivanka-Kushner seem to have much more stronger prospects than Don Jr as good as he is in defending somewhat demoralized conservatives' ideals in this changing world post-Obama/Trump.

enhanced_deficit
05-25-2020, 03:08 PM
Future chief in a potential Ivanka 2024 cabinet could laredy be getting a training run under MAGA GOPA leadership.




https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171025163750-01-ivanka-hill-20-25-2017-large-169.jpg


Marco Rubio named acting Intelligence chairman after Burr steps down amid investigation

By Jeremy Herb, CNN
Mon May 18, 2020

Reporter asks Burr if FBI seized his phone 03:23
(CNN)GOP Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida will become the acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee after North Carolina Republican Sen. Richard Burr stepped down from the position last week amid an FBI investigation into his stock trades, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced Monday.

cnn.com/2020/05/18/politics/marco-rubio-interim-intel-chairman/index.html




In terms of relative odds, Don Jr 2024 is starting to look less and less likely lately thanks to big plays like this.




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