Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard

[enhanced_deficit]

What a sad end to Tulsi's political career just days after she called MAGA Saudi's 'bit*h' and referred to him as a 'pimp' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535388-Trump-s-top-donor-is-a-social-liberal-and-supports-abortion-on-demand-national-healthcare&p=6876510&viewfull=1#post6876510) and soon after she was outed as secret pawn of Deep Zionism.

Madam Hillary Clinton, what have you done.

If 'Russians' was euphemism for 'Right Wing Jewish/Pro-Israel neoconservative donors' of Republicans-MAGA wing, she should say it or clarify if it was a Freudian slip or something else.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV3Aq0ww2EyZJdOtNmfDJbDscImGUkA xVJ0FVlvrfhzEJDRfrB&s
Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.


Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard

Published: Oct 24, 2019
In a curious turn of events, a number of major news organizations ran corrections Wednesday night over week-old reports that sparked a testy war of words between Hillary Clinton and Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
Last week, a number of media organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and Politico, ran reports saying Clinton told the podcast “Campaign HQ with David Plouffe” that Russians were “grooming” a female Democratic candidate — widely assumed to be Gabbard — for a third-party run to play a potential spoiler in the 2020 election.
But apparently Clinton meant Republicans — not Russians — were doing the grooming.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/turns-out-hillary-clinton-said-republicans-not-russians-were-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-2019-10-24


MAGA Republican donors Adelsons couple is Israeli-American, so they can't be confused as 'Russians'.
MAGA's talented 'Russian' son-in-law, an ally of Adelsons, is a Republican but there is no indication if that caused Hillary's confusion initially.


Very Likely Un-Related (Pending further explanation from Hon. Hillary Clinton about Tulsi's alleged 'Russian' grooming mixup)

Israel elections: Netanyahu, Lieberman fight for the 'Russian vote' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538922-Israel-elections-Netanyahu-Lieberman-fight-for-the-Russian-vote&)




Semi-Related

Vladimir Putin says Trump was impeached for 'made-up reasons' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?542114-Vladimir-Putin-says-Trump-was-impeached-for-made-up-reasons&)Putin: Maybe Jews or minorities behind US election interference
By Madison Park, CNN
March 12, 2018
(CNN)Jewish groups are criticizing Russian President Vladimir Putin after he suggested Russian minorities such as Jews or Tatars could be behind alleged meddling in the 2016 US presidential election.

[Swordsmyth]

Lies, Hitlery looked like a crackpot and everyone made fun of her so they are rewriting history.

[Swordsmyth]

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[dannno]

Turns out nobody believes that shit.

[Jamesiv1]

Here’s the full quote from the podcast:


Plouffe: “So [Trump’s] gonna try and drive the people not to vote for him but just to say, ‘you know, you can’t vote for them either.’ And that seems to be, I think, to the extent that I can devine a strategy, their key strategy right now.”


Clinton: “Well, I think there’s gonna be two parts and I think it’s gonna be the same as 2016: ‘Don’t vote for the other guy. You don’t like me? Don’t vote for the other guy because the other guy is gonna do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I’m gonna show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you’re gonna see them and you’re gonna see that person do these horrible things.’


“They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.”

[Swordsmyth]

Here’s the full quote from the podcast:


Plouffe: “So [Trump’s] gonna try and drive the people not to vote for him but just to say, ‘you know, you can’t vote for them either.’ And that seems to be, I think, to the extent that I can devine a strategy, their key strategy right now.”


Clinton: “Well, I think there’s gonna be two parts and I think it’s gonna be the same as 2016: ‘Don’t vote for the other guy. You don’t like me? Don’t vote for the other guy because the other guy is gonna do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I’m gonna show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you’re gonna see them and you’re gonna see that person do these horrible things.’


“They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.”
They DID try to call Stein a Russian asset last time so that part proves she meant exactly what she said about Gabbard.

[Jamesiv1]

If you can stomach The View, here's the audio of Hillary saying it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t_XY5dM93Q

I suggest the "grooming" sentence is in fact referring to Republicans. However, the "Jill Stein" sentence clearly calls Tulsi a Russian asset.

[FunkBuddha]

If you can stomach The View, here's the audio of Hillary saying it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t_XY5dM93Q

I suggest the "grooming" sentence is in fact referring to Republicans. However, the "Jill Stein" sentence clearly calls Tulsi a Russian asset.

Yep. To what else would "also" be referring?

[Stratovarious]

She didn't mean to commit Espionage either , she meant to commit Treason.

If I remember correctly , Rush Linbaugh used to say ''words mean things....'' ''if he/she'd have meant to say
something different or used a different word 'they' would have''

[Stratovarious]

Hillary;
'' When I said , push the Button on those basterds, go ahead and Nuc The Kremlin, I meant lets
invite them for tea...''

Wouldn't she make a great Pres (if she is really so fkd up that she doesn't know which way is up...)
:frog:

[osan]

Turns out nobody believes that shit.

And yet, media will continue the narrative and as usual the lies become the tacit truth in the minds of the average dimwits.

[Anti Globalist]

Nice try Hillary but everybody knows who you were referring to.

[enhanced_deficit]

Heaven forbid if Hillary's prediction did come true and Tulsi ran as 3rd party in 2020, could Tulsi end up taking away conservative/hard-right votes from MAGA (assuming he wins in any impeachment battles and GOP primary challenges from likes of Sanford, Romney etc).


This is axios citing fb,reddit,gap,4chan etc, so read with some grains of salt.


Sara Fischer
Oct 22, 2019

Tulsi Gabbard is getting a boost from conservatives online

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has received the biggest surge of all 2020 Democratic contenders in social media mentions by percentage increase between Oct. 8 and Oct. 15 according to social intelligence company Storyful.

Why it matters: It's another example of a 2020 Democrat experiencing a boost online thanks in part to fringe voices on the right. Earlier this year, Axios reported on ways far-right voices were helping to elevate Andrew Yang.



The increase can be attributed to Gabbard's accusations that the Democratic Party had rigged the elections, which gained a lot of attention on the far-right, and her threat to boycott the last debate.

By the numbers: Gabbard went from receiving 162,500 mentions across many social platforms measured by Storyful (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, Gab, 4Chan) in the first week of October to over 338,000 between Oct. 8 and 15.


Comments by Gabbard condemning members of her own party have garnered her lots of attention from far-right figures, which explains some of the increased attention she is receiving on platforms like Reddit, 4chan and Gab.
For example, here's an example of a chain started about it on the pro-Trump Reddit Channel "r/DrainTheSwamp."

Between the lines: "We are seeing commentary pushing the idea of a Yang/Gabbard ticket, especially on 4chan," says Storyful senior journalist Catherine Sanz, who pulled the data.


Gabbard has gained traction among prominent Yang Gang fan pages, per Sanz.
Caroline Orr, a research analyst and reporter, noted via Twitter yesterday that Tulsi-related hashtags "are getting boosted by YangGang, which is made up of a lot of MAGA fans."


axios.com/tulsi-gabbard-right-wing-conservative-social-media-boost





Related

Developing...
In 2015, Trump did not mean to suggest that Adelsons groomed US politicians


https://pics.me.me/donald-j-trump-follow-realdonaldtrump-sheldon-adelson-is-looking-to-60668620.png






US Presidential "Medal of Freedom" is much more prestigious than Rabbi Shmuley's "Champion of Freedom" award

https://images.haarets.co.il/image/upload/w_2200,h_1278,x_0,y_0,c_crop,g_north_west/w_609,h_343,q_auto,c_fill,f_auto/fl_any_format.preserve_transparency.progressive:no ne/v1562591132/1.7481565.2216604198.jpg
President Donald Trump on Friday recognized his major donor Miriam Adelson (wife of Sheldon Adelson) by awarding her Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest honor the nation reserves for a civilian.
November 16, 2018

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DZzo9JrEgb4/XRtE3OKTSOI/AAAAAAAArxo/yvQ0ixhQ07oCMv6lYSB8fk2p5LaTf4E4gCLcBGAs/s320/Tulsi.jpg
Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.
Adelson is the ultra-Zionist Republican political kingmaker and casino billionaire, who is also Netanyahu's great backer and dominant owner of media in Israel.

[Pauls' Revere]

If the rate of new laws grows every year by 10% and only 1% of Americans become Libertarians, you could say that tyranny is winning.


Looks like Americans need to up their game.


Americans don't care about freedom, but things are getting serious. Tyranny just increases constantly.


Couldn't Americans get out of their echo chambers and wake people up?


Who would have thought in 1980 that the USA would soon have nanny state laws, regulations, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, searches without warrants, mandatory minimums, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, private prisons, FOSTA, TSA groping, and Jade Helm?


Maybe Americans might be a little safer in Chile when the USA starts WWIII with Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea.


https://ideapod.com/top-10-safest-countries-world-war-3-breaks/ (https://ideapod.com/top-10-safest-countries-world-war-3-breaks/)






+ rep.

[enhanced_deficit]

If I remember correctly , Rush Linbaugh used to say ''words mean things....'' ''if he/she'd have meant to say
something different or used a different word 'they' would have''

Hard to disagree with that.
Come to think of it, Obama gave a speech on similar topic also, headline then was something like "just words".

[TER]

Heaven forbid if Hillary's prediction did come true and Tulsi ran as 3rd party in 2020, could Tulsi end up taking away conservative/hard-right votes from MAGA (assuming he wins in any impeachment battles and GOP primary challenges from likes of Sanford, Romney etc).

Oh yes, heaven forbid! I’m sure it must be keeping you awake at night that MAGA might be divided because of Tulsi!

You know the problem with lies, deception, and sarcasm is that after a while it betrays the type of person you truly are and your divisive and deceptive agenda.

Tulsi going third party would be the best thing that would happen for Trump to be re-elected. Any logical person would know that.

Hillary is right to be worried about Tulsi. She is one of the greatest threats against the Democrats if she was to go third party. That would ensure Trump winning in a landslide.

[Ender]

Oh yes, heaven forbid! I’m sure it must be keeping you awake at night that MAGA might be divided because of Tulsi!

You know the problem with lies, deception, and sarcasm is that after a while it betrays the type of person you truly are and your divisive and deceptive agenda.

Tulsi going third party would be the best thing that would happen for Trump to be re-elected. Any logical person would know that.

Hillary is right to be worried about Tulsi. She is one of the greatest threats against the Democrats if she was to go third party. That would ensure Trump winning in a landslide.

Sarcasm has nothing to do with lies & deception. Sometimes, of late, it's the only way to communicate on the forum w/o losing one's mind.

And I agree totally about Tulsi.

So, stop with the insults, TER- you're better than this.

[Swordsmyth]

Sarcasm has nothing to do with lies & deception. Sometimes, of late, it's the only way to communicate on the forum w/o losing one's mind.

And I agree totally about Tulsi.

So, stop with the insults, TER- you're better than this.
TER is right.

[TER]

Sarcasm has nothing to do with lies & deception. Sometimes, of late, it's the only way to communicate on the forum w/o losing one's mind.

And I agree totally about Tulsi.

So, stop with the insults, TER- you're better than this.

What I find insulting is being lied to and being mocked day in and day out by a person who feigns to be a concerned American citizen.

Sarcasm is sarcasm when it is obvious to those around in order to make a point. It’s why one often puts /s or an emoticon to make sure it is obvious. What this poster does is not to be obvious but to be deceptive, especially to anyone who isn’t aware of his agenda and tactics. Big difference.

[Stratovarious]

Hard to disagree with that.
Come to think of it, Obama gave a speech on similar topic also, headline then was something like "just words".

I almost break out in hives when I hear that name 'Obama' , grrr; Mandate Heath insurance, mandate any product
that Americans must buy , mandatory ....

:frog:

[jmdrake]

What a sad end to Tulsi's political career just days after she called MAGA Saudi's 'bit*h' and referred to him as a 'pimp' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535388-Trump-s-top-donor-is-a-social-liberal-and-supports-abortion-on-demand-national-healthcare&p=6876510&viewfull=1#post6876510) and soon after she was outed as secret pawn of Deep Zionism.

Madam Hillary Clinton, what have you done.

If 'Russians' was euphemism for 'Right Wing Jewish/Pro-Israel neoconservative donors' of Republicans-MAGA wing, she should say it or clarify if it was a Freudian slip or something else.


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV3Aq0ww2EyZJdOtNmfDJbDscImGUkA xVJ0FVlvrfhzEJDRfrB&s
Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.


Turns out Hillary Clinton said Republicans — not Russians — were grooming Tulsi Gabbard

Published: Oct 24, 2019
In a curious turn of events, a number of major news organizations ran corrections Wednesday night over week-old reports that sparked a testy war of words between Hillary Clinton and Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.
Last week, a number of media organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and Politico, ran reports saying Clinton told the podcast “Campaign HQ with David Plouffe” that Russians were “grooming” a female Democratic candidate — widely assumed to be Gabbard — for a third-party run to play a potential spoiler in the 2020 election.
But apparently Clinton meant Republicans — not Russians — were doing the grooming.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/turns-out-hillary-clinton-said-republicans-not-russians-were-grooming-tulsi-gabbard-2019-10-24


MAGA Republican donors Adelsons couple is Israeli-American, so they can't be confused as 'Russians'.
MAGA's talented 'Russian' son-in-law, an ally of Adelsons, is a Republican but there is no indication if that caused Hillary's confusion initially.





Very Likely Un-Related (Pending further explanation from Hon. Hillary Clinton about Tulsi's alleged 'Russian' grooming mixup)

Israel elections: Netanyahu, Lieberman fight for the 'Russian vote' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538922-Israel-elections-Netanyahu-Lieberman-fight-for-the-Russian-vote&)

The Associated Press said: “In a story Oct. 18 about Tulsi Gabbard and Hillary Clinton, The Associated Press reported erroneously that Hillary Clinton said she believes the Russians have ‘got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and grooming her to be the third-party candidate.’ She was referring to Republicans, not Russians, according to an aide.”

Well they both start with "R". :rolleyes:

[Ender]

What I find insulting is being lied to and being mocked day in and day out by a person who feigns to be a concerned American citizen.

Sarcasm is sarcasm when it is obvious to those around in order to make a point. It’s why one often puts /s or an emoticon to make sure it is obvious. What this poster does is not to be obvious but to be deceptive, especially to anyone who isn’t aware of his agenda and tactics. Big difference.

Disagree- enhanced_deficit was totally anti-Obama & pretty much pro-Trump until he started seeing some of the constant flip-flops etc. When he started posting about it he got called all sorts of names, so he began the sarcasm stuff. He's never been deceptive.

Your description fits some others here, but not him.

[acptulsa]

Disagree- enhanced_deficit was totally anti-Obama & pretty much pro-Trump until he started seeing some of the constant flip-flops etc. When he started posting about it he got called all sorts of names, so he began the sarcasm stuff. He's never been deceptive.

Your description fits some others here, but not him.

What did angelatc say? Something like, there's not a liberty lover on the planet who hasn't been called a Republican by the Left and a Democrat by the Right. Free thinkers seem to be unthinkable.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9XEnTxlBuGo

No wonder we're so easy to divide and conquer.

[enhanced_deficit]

I almost break out in hives when I hear that name 'Obama' , grrr; Mandate Heath insurance, mandate any product
that Americans must buy , mandatory ....

:frog:

You may have to pace yourself and gradually learn to think like a champion.


https://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Campaign-2016/trump-obama-champion.jpg

[enhanced_deficit]

I - Not headlined in US Media
Tulsi's palling around with Iraq/Iran wars mongers, taking fake 'freedom' awards from neocons

Video: CUFI's Pastor John Hagee Praying for more War in the name of Jesus (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?426011-Video-CUFI-s-Pastor-John-Hagee-Praying-for-more-War-in-the-name-of-Jesus&)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udBM22ZhxBI

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV3Aq0ww2EyZJdOtNmfDJbDscImGUkA xVJ0FVlvrfhzEJDRfrB&s
Gabbard received an award from Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey-based rabbi with close ties to casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson (the largest donor to the Republican Party). A year before Gabbard attended Boteach’s gala dinner and received his “Champion of Freedom” Award, Boteach published full-page ads in leading U.S. newspapers in which he accused Obama’s national security adviser, Susan Rice, of being responsible for the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.
In 2015, she spoke at a conference of Christians United for Israel – an organization whose leader and founder, Pastor John Hagee, is a strong supporter of West Bank settlements.




II - Headlined in US Media
'Anti-war' Tulsi calling a sitting MAGA b-word & p-word (to his credit he turned the other cheek and did not retaliate)


November 21, 2018
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says Trump is "Saudi Arabia's bitch" in tweet
"Hey @realdonaldtrump: being Saudi Arabia's bitch is not "America First,"" Gabbard tweeted (https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1065289231977738240).

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon13.pngTulsi slams Trump as Saudi Arabia's 'bitch' , 'We are not your prostitutes. You are not our pimp' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539315-Tulsi-slams-Trump-as-Saudi-b-We-are-not-your-prostitutes-You-are-not-our-pimp&)
September 16, 2019




Credit should be given that Tulsi did not call MAGA a b-word of his top donor Adelson.
There is also no proof on in reliable US MSM that she is being groomed by Deep Neocons and war-monger interests to make fake attacks against MAGA to help Adelsons funded candidate win 2020.

But still, I and II don't add up.

[enhanced_deficit]

The Associated Press said: “In a story Oct. 18 about Tulsi Gabbard and Hillary Clinton, The Associated Press reported erroneously that Hillary Clinton said she believes the Russians have ‘got their eye on somebody who’s currently in the Democratic primary and grooming her to be the third-party candidate.’ She was referring to Republicans, not Russians, according to an aide.”
Well they both start with "R". :rolleyes:

True that :)






Lies, Hitlery looked like a crackpot and everyone made fun of her so they are rewriting history.


To be fair, you used to call MAGA a 'dump' also. What caused you to reverse your stance towrads him so radically?





Dump already said Obummer started ISIS, he should invite Iran to make their evidence public.

EM.

Very Likely Un-Related
Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531152-Top-neocon-reverses-course-says-Trump-s-‘most-pro-Israel-president-ever’&)

[Stratovarious]

You may have to pace yourself and gradually learn to think like a champion.


https://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Campaign-2016/trump-obama-champion.jpg

I guess so;
Racial Division
Riots
Direct Hits on our Constitution
57 States
:frog:

[enhanced_deficit]

Tulsi Gabbard doesn't qualify for Iowa Democrats' event

By Kate Sullivan and Dan Merica, CNN
Wed October 30, 2019

Washington (CNN) Rep. Tulsi Gabbard did not meet the threshold to speak at Friday's Iowa Democratic Party Liberty and Justice Celebration, which is expected to be attended by 14 other Democratic presidential candidates.

To qualify for the event, candidates could either open at least two field offices in the state with at least 10 dedicated field organizing staff or buy the Iowa Democratic Party's voter file, according to Jonah Hermann, the spokesman for the state Democratic Party. A voter file is a digital database of official, publicly available government records of who is registered to vote and who voted in past elections.

"To our knowledge," Hermann said, "the congresswoman did neither of those things."
CNN has reached out to the Gabbard campaign for comment.
The event in Des Moines is described as the "premier event of the caucus season" by the Iowa Democratic Party. Iowa is a key early-voting state, and its first-in-the-nation caucuses will take place on February 3.
cnn.com/2019/10/30/politics/tulsi-gabbard-qualify-iowa-democrats/index.html



Source being notorious CNN, pending confirmation from other news sources.



Related

Hillary Clinton leads Trump in a new Fox News poll (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540828-Hillary-Clinton-leads-Trump-in-a-new-Fox-News-poll&)

[shakey1]

Tulsi’s run will be snuffed before she even gets a chance.

[enhanced_deficit]

Tulsi’s run will be snuffed before she even gets a chance.

I'm afraid that would be the case.

[enhanced_deficit]

21 hours ago

Tulsi Gabbard confronts Joy Behar over 'useful idiot' label, Hillary's 'Russian asset' claim

By Sam Dorman | Fox News
Tulsi Gabbard and Joy Behar have heated exchange over 'useful idiot' label, and Hillary's 'Russian asset' claim2020 Democratic presidential candidate and Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard got into a war of words with 'The View' co-host Joy Behar. Gabbard defended herself, while Behar cited compliments of Gabbard that she saw as objectionable.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, got into a testy exchange with "View" co-host Joy Behar on Wednesday as the 2020 candidate confronted Behar over her claim that she was a "useful idiot" for the Russians.
"Some of you have accused me of being a traitor to my country, a Russian asset, a trojan horse, or a useful idiot I think was the term that you used," Gabbard told Behar.

"Well, useful," Behar said, apparently trying to excuse her description. "But that's a Russian term, they use that," she added.
foxnews.com/entertainment/tulsi-gabbard-joy-behar-russia-view-clinton

Even if later it is confirmed that Tulsi was a plant of Deep Neocons, using labels like 'useful idiot' at this stage is counter productive.



Related

Hillary Clinton leads Trump in a new Fox News poll (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540828-Hillary-Clinton-leads-Trump-in-a-new-Fox-News-poll&)
Since Clinton is not running, it isn't clear why Fox News decided to ask voters to choose between her and Trump. The pollsters noted that the last time they included Clinton in a matchup against Trump was Nov. 3-6, 2016, during which period she was also leading Trump, 46 percent to 42 percent — and also actually running for president. Which, again, she isn't currently.
The poll was conducted Oct. 27-30 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R).

[enhanced_deficit]

Tulsi was already pretty controversial after she called a sitting POTUS 'bitch' and 'pimp' but it appears she might be far more controversial than previously thought:
This somewhat surprising tangent came up while looking up old HI election news for another discussion on impact of impeachment on "hate" in America.


(https://www.sikh24.com/2019/04/26/exclusive-texas-protesters-u-s-rep-tulsi-gabbard-mascot-of-indias-kkk-for-rss-ties/) October 24, 2019

Russia Accusations a Distraction From Gabbard’s Actual Troubling Ties

Ari Paul

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Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting

When 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton (Campaign HQ, 10/17/19 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hillary-clinton/id1479487160?i=1000453830324)) accused Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, a long-shot Democratic primary candidate, of being a Russian-groomed foil, the media reverberations were sweeping. Coverage of the row prompted more coverage, with some takes (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/clinton-gabbard-russian-asset-jill-stein-901593/) defending Gabbard’s moral compass and others (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-view-doubles-down-on-hillary-clintons-tulsi-gabbard-claim-shes-a-useful-idiot) prolonging the obsession with the idea that Russia is interfering in American politics.
Lost in the noise is the reality that Gabbard’s most troubling attribute is her documented connection to the far-right Hindu nationalist, or Hindutva, movement known as Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the parent organization of India’s ruling BJP party.
There is no evidence that Gabbard, who rarely polls (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/) above 3%, is any kind of Russian agent, plucked by Moscow to sway the 2020 election toward the reelection of Donald Trump. But those silly accusations eventually mix into the media as they look to explain how an idiosyncratic candidate like Gabbard can gain the support not only of anti-war leftists who see her as a champion of nonintervention, but also of far-right white nationalists like David Duke (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/rep-tulsi-gabbard-gets-2020-endorsement-from-david-duke-2019-10-19) and Richard Spencer (https://forward.com/fast-forward/428962/tulsi-gabbard-neo-nazi-white-nationalist-support/).
NBC (8/2/19 (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-race.html)) presented Tulsi Gabbard as a possible catspaw of the “Russian propaganda machine.”

The New York Times (8/2/19 (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/02/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-race.html)) portrayed her as an idealistic crusader for peace, and then came out (10/12/19 (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/us/politics/tulsi-gabbard.html)) framing her stances as part of, intentionally or not, a Moscow-led disinformation campaign. NBC (2/2/19 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261)) sounded the alarm about an “upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard,” saying she had become a favorite of the “Russian propaganda machine.” In a profile in Rolling Stone (8/9/19 (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/podcast-tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris-syria-iraq-870003/)), Matt Taibbi scoffed at Gabbard’s critics, summing her up as “simply opposed to bombing the crap out of, and occupying, foreign countries for no apparent positive strategic objective, beyond enriching contractors.”
Lost between these hit jobs and puff pieces is the RSS’s influence on Gabbard, despite the evidence that this is much more a part of her life than Russian intrigue. The best chronicle of her affiliation with the Indian right comes from the Indian publication Caravan (8/1/19 (https://caravanmagazine.in/politics/american-sangh-affair-tulsi-gabbard)). Religion News Service (1/27/19 (https://religionnews.com/2019/01/27/tulsi-gabbards-2020-bid-raises-questions-about-hindu-political-ties/)) had earlier outlined her connections to Hindu nationalist groups, and how these affected her votes and political positions. The Intercept (1/5/19 (https://theintercept.com/2019/01/05/tulsi-gabbard-2020-hindu-nationalist-modi/)) also covered the issue.
Anyone interested in Gabbard should read these articles in their entirety, but the key take away is this: The RSS draws much of its power from its followers in the Diaspora, and Gabbard has been crucial to revamping the image of the Hindu nationalist in the United States, and has in turn received crucial financial support from the Indian-American far right. (Gabbard, who is of Samoan and European descent, is a practicing Hindu.) Much of that RSS support has come from donations from Indian-Americans who are part of the movement’s US efforts—think of them as like US Zionists who aren’t just pro-Israel, but pro-Likud. “Gabbard’s donors have publicly applauded her for supporting Modi before he was elected, for speaking against the US decision to deny him a visa after 2002 and for working against congressional efforts to recognise human-rights violations in India,” the Caravan article states.

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Hindu Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard called ‘devil’ by Christian opponent in US election campaign.

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Tulsi Gabbard might find US stance on religious freedom a joke

Hindus would be particularly distressed that Tulsi Gabbard, a Vaishnava Hindu and a devotee of Sri Krishna, seeking democratic nomination as a Presidential candidate in 2020, has been relentlessly attacked over her faith (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-krishna-cult-rumors_n_6879588) and ridiculed as one from the “Krishna cult.”

The report observes that it’s typical in the United States to demonize persons of Hindu origin as practising a “cult”, as has been the case over the decades with Hindu gurus who racked up millions of devotees in a short time and were thus seen a threat to the Protestant ethos of the land.
This year itself, Swaminarayan Temple in Kentucky was vandalized and black paint was sprayed on the deity as were the words on the wall: “Jesus is the only God.” In April 2015, a Hindu temple in north Texas met the same fate (https://www.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/hindu-temple-in-texas-vandalized-with-graffiti/article_96d526e0-e796-11e4-803c-cb2aaa917785.html) but the images sprayed were far more nasty. Same year, two months earlier, Hindu temples in Kent and Seattle Metropolitan area was defaced and trashed.
The report notes with concern that anti-Hindu sentiments aren’t restricted to base and vile attacks from faceless bigots alone in the United States. Media mogul Pat Robertson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hindu_sentiment#United_States) calls Hinduism as “demonic”; Evangelical leader Albert Mohler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hindu_sentiment#cite_note-106) insults the followers of Hindu faith as demonstrating “Satanic power.” Hindu prayers in US Senate are disrupted (https://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/view.bg?articleid=1010979) by terming them as “abomination.”
The report also reminds the US State Department about “dotbusters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dotbusters)”—a hate group in New Jersey alluding to “Bindis” on Hindu foreheads. Dotbusters had vowed to take all necessary step to drive Indians out of Jersey City.
The report terms the latest US censure against India as “unfounded” and wonders if it has anything to do with the “foreign funding” to NGOs being scrutinized and impounded by the Modi government, and “missionary” activities of its preachers being impeded.
The report also speculates if US rebuke against India has been nudged by the pro-Khalistan lobby (https://swarajyamag.com/world/an-introduction-to-one-of-the-breaking-india-groups-opposing-world-hindu-congress) in the United States and Canada who seek an independent country carved out of India and interestingly has no such demand on Pakistan which has under its control most of Punjab!!! It’s no secret that pro-Khalistani lobby “gifts” more than just goodwill to important political parties and members in the US senate.

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Convert or we will kill you, Hindu lynch mobs tell fleeing Christians

As a fresh wave of sectarian violence is unleashed across the Indian state of Orissa, Gethin Chamberlain talks to homeless survivors in Kandhamal district who were forced to abandon their religion

Kumari Naik with her son Santosh amid the ashes of their home. Photograph: Gethin Chamberlain Hundreds of Christians in the Indian state of Orissa have been forced to renounce their religion and become Hindus after lynch mobs issued them with a stark ultimatum: convert or die.

The wave of forced conversions marks a dramatic escalation in a two-month orgy of sectarian violence which has left at least 59 people dead, 50,000 homeless and thousands of houses and churches burnt to the ground. As neighbour has turned on neighbour, thousands more Christians have sought sanctuary in refugee camps, unable to return to the wreckage of their homes unless they, too, agree to abandon their faith.
Last week, in the worst-affected Kandhamal district, The Observer encountered compelling evidence of the scale of the violence employed in a conversion programme apparently sanctioned by members of one of the most powerful Hindu groups in India, the 6.8-million member Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) - the World Hindu Council.
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'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ




Tulsi going third party would be the best thing that would happen for Trump to be re-elected. Any logical person would know that.

Hillary is right to be worried about Tulsi. She is one of the greatest threats against the Democrats if she was to go third party. That would ensure Trump winning in a landslide.

TER is right.


^this.

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Republicans don't need to groom Gabbard, she's already their free pawn. She's voted with GOP every chance she gets on war, Muslims and immigration.

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Turns out she did not vote with Dems today on Trump impeachment.

Tulsi Gabbard Votes 'Present' on Trump Impeachment, Slams 'Purely Partisan Process' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?542100-Tulsi-Gabbard-Votes-Present-on-Trump-Impeachment-Slams-Purely-Partisan-Process&)

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Turns out she did not vote with Dems today on Trump impeachment.

Tulsi Gabbard Votes 'Present' on Trump Impeachment, Slams 'Purely Partisan Process' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?542100-Tulsi-Gabbard-Votes-Present-on-Trump-Impeachment-Slams-Purely-Partisan-Process&)


A pitiful excuse for bumping this thread promoting Hitlery's lie about what she said.
Brian4Liberty, can we get the thread title changed?

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Should we waste mods time by requesting them to also change titles of threads where you you used to refer to MAGA leader as 'dump'.. LOL

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Democrats literally cannot win without hating Trump, she just shot herself in the foot.

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Tulsi is suing Hillary Clinton for $50M.