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Zippyjuan
10-17-2019, 03:11 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/17/mulvaney-confirms-ukraine-aid-2016-probe-050156


Donald Trump's top aide on Thursday acknowledged that the administration held up military funds to Ukraine over the president's desire for a political probe, undermining past denials of any quid pro quo and blowing up weeks of White House messaging amid an escalating impeachment inquiry.

In a whirlwind 40-minute news conference, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney told reporters the U.S. aid was withheld at least in part because of a request to have Ukraine investigate unfounded allegations that foreign countries assisted Democrats in the 2016 election.

"Did he also mention to me in [the] past the corruption related to the DNC server? Absolutely," Mulvaney said of a conversation he had Trump. "No question about that. But that's it, and that's why we held up the money."

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He added: "The look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation."

The explosive remarks from the West Wing senior staffer seemed to provoke alarm among congressional lawmakers and Trump's allies in equal measure.

"I'm starting to get worried for POTUS now," a person close to the Trump campaign said in a text message of Mulvaney's performance. "Total disaster unless there's some strategy I'm not seeing."

"I thought it was really remarkable," said one former White House official, "because it was either a huge unforced error or a calculated concession."

House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), one of the leaders of the Democratic impeachment proceedings, also offered a dour assessment.

“I think Mr. Mulvaney’s acknowledgment means that things have gone from very, very bad to much, much worse," Schiff said.

Pressed during the briefing on whether he was describing a quid pro quo with Ukraine, Mulvaney responded that "we do that all the time with foreign policy," and cited the holding back of financial assistance to Northern Triangle countries to affect their immigration policies.


“I was involved with the process by which the money was held up temporarily, OK?" he said. "Three issues for that: the corruption in the country, whether or not other countries were participating in the support of the Ukraine, and whether or not they were cooperating in an ongoing investigation with our Department of Justice. That's completely legitimate.”

Actually, asking for foreign help against a political opponent is not a legitimate action.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2019, 03:25 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/17/mulvaney-confirms-ukraine-aid-2016-probe-050156





Actually, asking for foreign help against a political opponent is not a legitimate action.

The Ukrainians didn't even know it had been held up so this sounds fishy.

But even if it was true it was about Ukrainian election meddling for Hitlery in 2016 and even if it was about Biden's corruption that isn't " asking for foreign help against a political opponent", it's investigating a crime.

Zippyjuan
10-17-2019, 03:37 PM
The Ukrainians didn't even know it had been held up so this sounds fishy.

But even if it was true it was about Ukrainian election meddling for Hitlery in 2016 and even if it was about Biden's corruption that isn't " asking for foreign help against a political opponent", it's investigating a crime.

That is the "Trump spin" version anyways. If he was concerned about crime and corruption, why only ask to look into his political rival and not other figures? There is plenty of corruption in the world. Even in the White House. His children should be looked into as well as Biden's son.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2019, 03:44 PM
That is the "Trump spin" version anyways. If he was concerned about crime and corruption, why only ask to look into his political rival and not other figures? There is plenty of corruption in the world. Even in the White House. His children should be looked into as well as Biden's son.
He is looking into lots of different crimes and corrupt people.
And his children don't need looking into until there is probable cause.

You haven't answered any of the facts.

1 The Ukrainians didn't even know it had been held up
2 it was about Ukrainian election meddling for Hitlery in 2016 NOT BIDEN even if Mulvaney is telling the truth
3 even if it was about Biden's corruption that isn't " asking for foreign help against a political opponent", it's investigating a crime.

fcreature
10-17-2019, 05:08 PM
LOL zippy, you truly are an idiot or you are simply here to spread fake news and democratic talking points.

Everyone can go watch this presser for themselves. This is an absolutely unfair characterization of what was said. Completely out of context. Mulvaney spent 3 minutes listing off reasons why they were considering holding off the funding. And what he was stating is exactly what we would hear from Ron or Rand Paul - that Trump does not generally like foreign aid, and especially when it goes to corrupt politicians who line their own pockets. Mulvaney then briefly changed subjects and spent 2 second acknowledging the corruption and then switched context back to finish his point.

Honestly, GTFO.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2019, 05:40 PM
later on Thursday Mulvaney revised his remarks, maintaining that there had never been any quid pro quo between the hold the administration put on aid to Ukraine and Ukraine’s cooperation on an investigation into allegations surrounding the DNC server. In a statement late on Thursday afternoon, Mulvaney accused the media of “misconstruing” his earlier remarks to the press at the White House "to advance a biased and political witch hunt against President Trump", and explained that the aid was held over concerns about a lack of financial support from other nations, especially in Europe, for Ukraine: the “only reasons we were holding the money was because of concern about lack of support from other nations and concerns over corruption." He had cited that rationale in the earlier briefing before adding that the server was an issue that the president wanted investigated before aid was forthcoming.
“Multiple times during the more-than 30 minute briefing where I took over 25 questions, I referred to President Trump’s interest in rooting out corruption in Ukraine, and ensuring taxpayer dollars are spent responsibly and appropriately,” Mulvaney said in the statement.
“There was never any condition on the flow of aid related to the matter of the DNC server,” Mulvaney said in the later statement, which is reposted below:


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More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mulvaney-revises-his-statement-says-there-was-never-any-quid-pro-quo-ukraine-aid