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Warlord
10-16-2019, 10:34 AM
President Trump said Wednesday that Turkey’s offensive against U.S.-allied Kurdish forces in northern Syria is “not our problem,” defending his decision to withdraw U.S. troops from the region amid criticism.

"If Turkey goes into Syria, it is between Turkey and Syria. It’s not our problem,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office during a meeting with Italian President Sergio Mattarella.

Trump also downplayed the U.S. alliance with the Kurds, calling them “no angels” and saying the U.S. “paid a lot of money” for the Syrian Kurdish forces to fight alongside U.S. troops against ISIS.

Trump’s remarks came as a U.S. delegation led by Vice President Mike Pence prepared to meet with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara in an attempt to broker a ceasefire in the region.

“The Kurds are much safer right now, but the Kurds know how to fight, and as I said, they’re not angels. They’re not angels. You take a look… but they fought with us. We paid a lot of money for them to fight with us, and that’s OK,” Trump said Wednesday in the Oval Office.

"If Russia wants to get involved with Syria, that’s really up to them. They have a problem with Turkey. They have a problem at a border. It’s not our border, we shouldn’t be losing lives over it,” Trump said later.

Trump has faced tremendous blowback over his decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria as Turkey prepared to launch a military operation at the border, including harsh criticism from some of his Republican allies.

Many critics have argued that Trump’s move effectively greenlit Ankara's operation and that the president abandoned Kurdish forces, a key U.S. ally in the fight against ISIS. Turkey has long viewed the Syrian Kurds as a terrorist group.

The decision has also raised concerns about the potential for large numbers of ISIS fighters detained in the region to be released, undoing much of the work by U.S. and other forces to contain the terror group.

Administration officials have rejected the notion that Trump’s decision to pull back troops paved the way for the Turkish operation.

Trump has continued to defend his decision, saying he wants to get the U.S. out of “endless wars.” On Monday, he also announced sanctions on Turkey.


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/466076-trump-says-turkish-offensive-in-syria-is-not-our-problem

phill4paul
10-16-2019, 11:15 AM
Orange man bad!

Cleaner44
10-16-2019, 11:24 AM
It is nice having a president that rejects the Obama/Bush/Bolton/CNN/NBC/etc foreign policy fraud.

TER
10-16-2019, 11:57 AM
Best. President.

Trump 2020!!!

Sammy
10-16-2019, 12:21 PM
Best President since Calvin Coolidge!

Origanalist
10-16-2019, 12:22 PM
He's right. Let's hope he sticks with that same logic across the board. Couldn't ask for a better response.

TER
10-16-2019, 12:54 PM
Donald J. Trump realDonaldTrump

Senator Rand Paul just wrote a great book, “The Case Against Socialism” which is now out. Highly recommended – as America was founded on LIBERTY & INDEPENDENCE – not government coercion, domination & control. We were born free, and will stay free, as long as I am your President!

Warlord
10-16-2019, 01:00 PM
Nice shout out.

TER
10-16-2019, 01:03 PM
Want to see what a real President looks like?

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheReady1775/status/1184529136875905024

vita3
10-16-2019, 01:06 PM
On point Mr.President!

Zippyjuan
10-16-2019, 01:15 PM
On one hand, "not our problem!" On the other hand, if Turkey doesn't stop, the US will impose sanctions on them. He is even sending his VP and Secretary of State to talk to them to try to get them to stop. Trying to appease both sides. Or can't make up his mind what he really wants. Again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa/turkey-pushes-offensive-in-syria-despite-sanctions-and-calls-to-stop-idUSKBN1WU1D8


U.S. military aircraft carried out a “show of force” around the town of Kobani after Turkish-backed fighters came close to American forces, a U.S. official told Reuters. The Turkish-backed fighters dispersed after the show of force, the official said.

U.S. Vice President Mike Pence will meet Erdogan on Thursday in Ankara.

“Vice President Pence will reiterate President Trump’s commitment to maintain punishing economic sanctions on Turkey until a resolution is reached,” the White House said in a statement.

After Trump announced a set of sanctions on Monday to punish Ankara, U.S. prosecutors hit Turkey with charges on the majority state-owned Halkbank [HALKB.IS] for taking part in a multibillion-dollar scheme to evade U.S. sanctions against Iran.

Also: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540224-President-Trump-states-that-US-Troops-will-remain-in-Syria

Trump is the one who sent the troops to Syria in the first place.

TER
10-16-2019, 01:15 PM
The House measure condemning Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. military from northern Syria passed 354-60

Look at all the warmongers in the swamp

TER
10-16-2019, 01:16 PM
On one hand, "not our problem!" On the other hand, if Turkey doesn't stop, the US will impose sanctions on them. Flip flopper at it again.

LOL

TheCount
10-16-2019, 02:10 PM
... then why is he sanctioning them?

Dary
10-16-2019, 02:10 PM
In his press conference he also mentioned the many companies that make a lot of money on war.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

He said that Lindsey Graham would want us to stay in the middle east for the next thousand years.

And now Nancy and Schumer are on TV pressing for more war.

Incredible.

TER
10-16-2019, 02:12 PM
In his press conference he also mentioned the many companies that make a lot of money on war.


I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

Yep. He was pointing right at the military industrial complex and blaming them for the wars. It was an awesome press conference.

Dary
10-16-2019, 02:19 PM
In calling for more war, Steney, Nancy and Chuck are condemning Trump. Saying that he didn't treat them nicely.

They are trying to get rid of him and they expect him to be cordial?

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 02:30 PM
Let's jump on him for not being perfect and discourage this.:sarcasm:

RJB
10-16-2019, 02:31 PM
Watch for a false flag. Everytime he makes a move toward peace, either violence occurs out of nowhere or the media whips up a fury over something that might happen.

TER
10-16-2019, 03:14 PM
Watch for a false flag. Everytime he makes a move toward peace, either violence occurs out of nowhere or the media whips up a fury over something that might happen.

Yep. Right out of the DS playbook.

Origanalist
10-16-2019, 03:33 PM
In his press conference he also mentioned the many companies that make a lot of money on war.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

He said that Lindsey Graham would want us to stay in the middle east for the next thousand years.

And now Nancy and Schumer are on TV pressing for more war.

Incredible.

I haven't had a chance to hear it, but the more I read the better it sounds. Can't wait to get home and watch it.

vita3
10-16-2019, 03:45 PM
Epic moment in American history.

Could it be comparable to Eisenhower's warning on MIC?

enhanced_deficit
10-16-2019, 04:13 PM
Best America-First leader since Abe Lincoln if latest verbal statement got confirmed by actions.

If confirmed, this new policy shift would also puncture conspiracy theories that MAGA was a puppet of globalist Israel-First lobbies and fooling MAGAites with lip service while in actions following agenda of his neoconservative top donor Adelson. Bringing in Turkey would not encourage another Turkey-Iran supported forces civil war in the region as some anti-neocon purists had feared.

This could also help bring back many Right supporters/Alex Jones et al back who had beeen alieanated after last Ivanka inspired Syria bombing (reportedly) by MAGA.
Spread this news everywhere to boost GOP base morale.





On one hand, "not our problem!" On the other hand, if Turkey doesn't stop, the US will impose sanctions on them. He is even sending his VP and Secretary of State to talk to them to try to get them to stop. Trying to appease both sides. Or can't make up his mind what he really wants. Again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa/turkey-pushes-offensive-in-syria-despite-sanctions-and-calls-to-stop-idUSKBN1WU1D8


Also: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540224-President-Trump-states-that-US-Troops-will-remain-in-Syria

Trump is the one who sent the troops to Syria in the first place.



Do you always have to be a party pooper?

Hope you're not going by old 3.0 MAGA model that is no longer in effect:

'Fool me' 3.0: Trump: 'Just Kidding. We're Staying In Syria.' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?521272-How-much-trust-do-you-put-in-current-President-s-promises-and-statements&p=6870689&viewfull=1#post6870689)







Update 2:

Standing with allies: US sending thousands of more troops to mideast, total to reach 14,000 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540247-Standing-with-allies-US-sending-thousands-of-more-troops-to-mideast-total-to-reach-14-000&)
10/11/2019

Anti Globalist
10-16-2019, 04:24 PM
Hopefully hes actually serious and isn't providing lip service.

Stratovarious
10-16-2019, 04:48 PM
Watch for a false flag. Everytime he makes a move toward peace, either violence occurs out of nowhere or the media whips up a fury over something that might happen.You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to RJB again.

Stratovarious
10-16-2019, 04:53 PM
On one hand, "not our problem!" On the other hand, if Turkey doesn't stop, the US will impose sanctions on them. He is even sending his VP and Secretary of State to talk to them to try to get them to stop. Trying to appease both sides. Or can't make up his mind what he really wants. Again.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-usa/turkey-pushes-offensive-in-syria-despite-sanctions-and-calls-to-stop-idUSKBN1WU1D8



Also: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540224-President-Trump-states-that-US-Troops-will-remain-in-Syria

Trump is the one who sent the troops to Syria in the first place.

Who writes your material Zippy....... :frog:

Welcome to 2014, is that when Trump sent troops to Syria?


:frog:

Anti Globalist
10-16-2019, 04:54 PM
Epic moment in American history.

Could it be comparable to Eisenhower's warning on MIC?
Thats not a good comparison imo. Trump is warning us about the MIC when hes never worked for the Government. Eisenhower on the other hand warned us about the MIC, but it doesn't change the fact that he played a role in everything they did during his presidency. Prolonging Korean War, getting us involved in Vietnam, etc. Especially since he was part of it before he even became president. Its like if Woodrow Wilson told us in his farewell address to beware the Federal Reserve, when hes the one that created it.

fcreature
10-16-2019, 05:26 PM
Let's jump on him for not being perfect and discourage this.:sarcasm:

Seriously. I'm beginning to become embarrassed to call myself a libertarian. How hard is it for some of you to just acknowledge the good deeds? 4 years ago you naysayers would have killed for a POTUS to say this.

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 05:30 PM
Seriously. I'm beginning to become embarrassed to call myself a libertarian. How hard is it for some of you to just acknowledge the good deeds? 4 years ago you naysayers would have killed for a POTUS to say this.
They practically worship Eisenhower for saying some similar stuff right before he left office even though he did nothing about it in office.

enhanced_deficit
10-16-2019, 05:48 PM
Seriously. I'm beginning to become embarrassed to call myself a libertarian. How hard is it for some of you to just acknowledge the good deeds? 4 years ago you naysayers would have killed for a POTUS to say this.


Since he frequently contradicts himself his statements can't be trusted at all, you have to watch his actions to even guess about his positions or plans.


Part of the issue could be distinguishing deeds from sayings... unless one counts saying something as a deed.

Hopefully his future deeds and latest 2019 sayings will match, his past sayings-deeds chart have been all over the place:

In 2013 said this:

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/aZYchGNmVVXxsIwMAdBhAreMCQ8=/26x0:595x298/fit-in/1200x630/cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9087225/Screen_Shot_2017_08_21_at_11.14.21_AM.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517987-Pre-election-Trump-It-is-time-to-get-out-of-Afghanistan-Pence-Longest-US-War-will-go-on&)

bit in 2017 he sent 5000 more troops to Afghanistan and they are still there.


He said this about Obama:

https://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Campaign-2016/trump-obama-champion.jpg

But becaome a birtherism activist later.

Similar statements-deeds reversals on 2nd amendment, Israel-Palestine, LGBTQ weddings etc.



But hopefully this time it's straight shooting time and no flip flop speaks.

Anti Federalist
10-16-2019, 06:24 PM
"If Turkey goes into Syria, it is between Turkey and Syria. It’s not our problem,”

"We marched right in...we can march right out."

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

juleswin
10-16-2019, 06:30 PM
Seriously. I'm beginning to become embarrassed to call myself a libertarian. How hard is it for some of you to just acknowledge the good deeds? 4 years ago you naysayers would have killed for a POTUS to say this.

Saying is different from doing. Remember when Obama refused to bomb Syria after the fake chemical attack? The right and left attacked him for not going through with it. Nobody celebrated this when it happened because most people here then as they should now knew that he was still carrying on with the neocon agenda.

juleswin
10-16-2019, 06:32 PM
... then why is he sanctioning them?

The deep state made him.do it

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 06:35 PM
Saying is different from doing. Remember when Obama refused to bomb Syria after the fake chemical attack? The right and left attacked him for not going through with it. Nobody celebrated this when it happened because most people here then as they should now knew that he was still carrying on with the neocon agenda.

Trump is changing the agenda, O'Bummer never did.

fcreature
10-16-2019, 06:57 PM
Saying is different from doing.

:rolleyes:

We're almost certainly now not in a war that we otherwise would have been in had almost any other candidate won.

Trump did do something. He moved troops out of the way of an incoming invasion that wasn't going to be stopped by 50 guys. He took the powder keg away from the neocons and military industrial complex who wanted a US soldier killed in the crossfire so that we'd hop into another war.

He's publicly putting the military industrial complex on notice everywhere he goes right now.

It's truly sick. Some of you would probably rather he hadn't and that we had gone to war, just so you can come on this forum and post about how horrible he is.

dannno
10-16-2019, 06:59 PM
... then why is he sanctioning them?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7doCJbg_XBA

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 07:03 PM
:rolleyes:

We're almost certainly now not in a war that we otherwise would have been in had almost any other candidate won.

Trump did do something. He moved troops out of the way of an incoming invasion that wasn't going to be stopped by 50 guys. He took the powder keg away from the neocons and military industrial complex who wanted a US soldier killed in the crossfire so that we'd hop into another war.

He's publicly putting the military industrial complex on notice everywhere he goes right now.

It's truly sick. Some of you would probably rather he hadn't and that we had gone to war, just so you can come on this forum and post about how horrible he is.

Their America hate addiction is turning into withdrawals and he is just getting started.

tfurrh
10-16-2019, 07:08 PM
The House measure condemning Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. military from northern Syria passed 354-60

Look at all the warmongers in the swamp

That's alarming. 354 sell outs who know FULL WELL we don't need to be in Syria.

Origanalist
10-16-2019, 07:09 PM
In his press conference he also mentioned the many companies that make a lot of money on war.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

He said that Lindsey Graham would want us to stay in the middle east for the next thousand years.

And now Nancy and Schumer are on TV pressing for more war.

Incredible.

Is it the one with the Italian President??

Origanalist
10-16-2019, 07:10 PM
That's alarming. 354 sell outs who know FULL WELL we don't need to be in Syria.

Doesn't surprise me one little bit. Fucking ghouls.

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 07:13 PM
That's alarming. 354 sell outs who know FULL WELL we don't need to be in Syria.


Doesn't surprise me one little bit. $#@!ing ghouls.

Amash abstained:

Litmus Test: Who Supports The MIC/Neoconservative Agenda? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540249-Litmus-Test-Who-Supports-The-MIC-Neoconservative-Agenda)
Does he just hate Trump that much? or is he like Gabbard, a phony who doesn't really support bringing the troops home if it might actually happen?

tfurrh
10-16-2019, 07:15 PM
Amash abstained:

Litmus Test: Who Supports The MIC/Neoconservative Agenda? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540249-Litmus-Test-Who-Supports-The-MIC-Neoconservative-Agenda)
Does he just hate Trump that much? or is he like Gabbard, a phony who doesn't really support bringing the troops home if it might actually happen?

He's stuck on the island of misfit toys?

From his Twitter today

The only alternatives in Syria are not perpetual U.S. presence or the current disaster. Our troops should have come home long ago. The disaster resulted from President Trump’s egotistical, transactional approach. He put the U.S. in a position of weakness by ignoring consequences.

Today’s joint resolution presented precisely the false choice above. That’s why I voted present. Americans don’t want perpetual war, and Congress should vote on war if they believe in it. Nonetheless, we need much better leadership in the White House. President Trump is reckless.

juleswin
10-16-2019, 07:24 PM
:rolleyes:

We're almost certainly now not in a war that we otherwise would have been in had almost any other candidate won.

Trump did do something. He moved troops out of the way of an incoming invasion that wasn't going to be stopped by 50 guys. He took the powder keg away from the neocons and military industrial complex who wanted a US soldier killed in the crossfire so that we'd hop into another war.

He's publicly putting the military industrial complex on notice everywhere he goes right now.

It's truly sick. Some of you would probably rather he hadn't and that we had gone to war, just so you can come on this forum and post about how horrible he is.

Yes, he moved the troops out of the way but the underlying occupation and intervention is still there. There is no evidence that one solitary troop came home. How can anyone even celebrate this move? Obama also DID not attack Syrian when the neocons were pushing to. One can say that Obama also did something or in the case not do something the neocons were calling for. I did not celebrate that move and I will not be celebrating this one.

I was to see real change, I want to see those boys coming home. Not going to Saudi Arabia, not going South of their position in Syria, not Qatar etc etc, I want to see at least one soldier come home and not get replaced. This is what I would rather see happen

Pauls' Revere
10-16-2019, 07:25 PM
It is nice having a president that rejects the Obama/Bush/Bolton/CNN/NBC/etc foreign policy fraud.

+rep

PursuePeace
10-16-2019, 07:29 PM
1184552942545920005


"I see the incredible soldiers coming home, to Dover. Coming home in a coffin. On areas we have nothing to do with. We have nothing to do with and it's heartbreaking. I sign letters all the time to parents whose son was shot in different places in the middle east mostly. It's very heartbreaking to see...

And it's through strength not weakness....much harder to do what I'm doing. I could be like all of these others..'oh, just leave them there, leave them there'. Nah, I can't do it. Much easier, probably better politically for me to say we'll leave a lot of people there and we'll fight.... They don't even know what they're fighting for.

It's much more difficult politically, it's not politically expedient. It's just the opposite, and I even have people on my side, They want to fight. I say 'why are we fighting?' 'I don't know'. They don't know. They don't even know. So you have Syria and you have Turkey and they're going to argue it out, maybe they're going to fight it out, but our men aren't going to get killed over it."


:clap::up:

Origanalist
10-16-2019, 07:29 PM
Is it the one with the Italian President??

Ok, yes it is. While I don't agree 100% ( I don't care for him farming out troops out to the Saudi's) I'm at 31 minutes in and feel like slamming the desk and shouting yes!!! yes!!!!

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 07:35 PM
He's stuck on the island of misfit toys?

From his Twitter today
The same nonsense that Gabbard spews: "We should bring the troops home but it's never the right time to do so"

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 07:36 PM
Yes, he moved the troops out of the way but the underlying occupation and intervention is still there. There is no evidence that one solitary troop came home. How can anyone even celebrate this move? Obama also DID not attack Syrian when the neocons were pushing to. One can say that Obama also did something or in the case not do something the neocons were calling for. I did not celebrate that move and I will not be celebrating this one.

I was to see real change, I want to see those boys coming home. Not going to Saudi Arabia, not going South of their position in Syria, not Qatar etc etc, I want to see at least one soldier come home and not get replaced. This is what I would rather see happen

And if you can't have full perfection immediately you'd rather have a war with Turkey.

TER
10-16-2019, 07:44 PM
That's alarming. 354 sell outs who know FULL WELL we don't need to be in Syria.

Goes to show how many blackmailed, corrupt creatures live in the swamp which Trump has to contend with.

oyarde
10-16-2019, 07:47 PM
That's alarming. 354 sell outs who know FULL WELL we don't need to be in Syria.

I was surprised that 60 voted against it .

Swordsmyth
10-16-2019, 07:53 PM
Goes to show how many blackmailed, corrupt creatures live in the swamp which Trump has to contend with.
And that he can't just do everything all at once, he'd be impeached and convicted in record time.

Origanalist
10-16-2019, 08:00 PM
Watched the whole thing. If I was going to grade it it would be a solid A. It would be a A+ except for renting our troops to the Saudi's. Everyone here knows I'm not a Trump cheerleader but this came from a sitting President, not someone on the campaign trail. I'm blown away.



Trump is changing the agenda, O'Bummer never did.

Yep, exactly.

TheCount
10-16-2019, 09:50 PM
...

No, please, take your time to find a Chaturbate pundit who can give you an answer.

PursuePeace
10-17-2019, 12:30 AM
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
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Anti Federalist
10-17-2019, 12:48 AM
Watched the whole thing. If I was going to grade it it would be a solid A. It would be a A+ except for renting our troops to the Saudi's.

Everyone here knows I'm not a Trump cheerleader but this came from a sitting President, not someone on the campaign trail. I'm blown away.

Exactly.

+rep.

vita3
10-17-2019, 04:35 AM
"How can anyone even celebrate this move? "

Anytime we abandon military bases in another foreign Country it's time to celebrate. Couple that with the fact that Trump is openly talking to the American people about endless ME wars & all the $$$ it wastes... + the fact that Rand Paul & Dr.Paul are obviously happy about this move & supporting him.

There is so much more fight left to get remaining troops out of Syria... & then Iraq, Afghanistan etc...

But Trump needs to fully be supported here.

phill4paul
10-17-2019, 05:52 AM
But Trump needs to fully be supported here.

Never-Trumpers and Orange Man Bad! sycophants cannot bring themselves to do it.

Here we have a sitting president that has changed the national discussion on foreign military involvement. I can read it on social media and in the comments of sNez articles. People are saying "Ya know what? Why the hell ARE we still over there?"

And that's a good thing. Anyone that doesn't think so can eat a bag of dicks.

JoshLowry
10-17-2019, 06:24 AM
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
1184539123606011904

This is awesome.

His tweet of Rand's book is huge too.

1184530879999348739

https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/dit6nt/senator_rand_paul_just_wrote_a_great_book_the/

specsaregood
10-17-2019, 06:25 AM
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juleswin
10-17-2019, 06:49 AM
The forum goes wild when a politician who after taking giant leaps in the wrong direction takes a tippy toe step in the right direction. Like I say all the time, nobody is bad ALL the time and nobody is wrong all the time. You wanna look at the overall pic before you people start celebrating this move. This is not the first time a politician has said or done something the neocons did not like, I can give you good examples of presidents saying and doing things that annoyed the neocon elites. Trump was very critiical against regime change operations and wars but has continued every single one of em started before him, he even tried his luck in Venezuela but has failed so far(so far as he has not given up yet). Talk is cheap, real change in policy on the other hand is very rare and expensive in Washington

Look for the latter not the former

JoshLowry
10-17-2019, 08:16 AM
The forum goes wild when a politician who after taking giant leaps in the wrong direction takes a tippy toe step in the right direction. Like I say all the time, nobody is bad ALL the time and nobody is wrong all the time. You wanna look at the overall pic before you people start celebrating this move. This is not the first time a politician has said or done something the neocons did not like, I can give you good examples of presidents saying and doing things that annoyed the neocon elites. Trump was very critiical against regime change operations and wars but has continued every single one of em started before him, he even tried his luck in Venezuela but has failed so far(so far as he has not given up yet). Talk is cheap, real change in policy on the other hand is very rare and expensive in Washington

Look for the latter not the former

He promoted Rand's book then he retweeted Massie to his entire base.

He didn't have to do that. That is strictly what I am celebrating.

Look at the inroads this makes: https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/dit6nt/senator_rand_paul_just_wrote_a_great_book_the/

juleswin
10-17-2019, 10:30 AM
He promoted Rand's book then he retweeted Massie to his entire base.

He didn't have to do that. That is strictly what I am celebrating.

Look at the inroads this makes: https://old.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/dit6nt/senator_rand_paul_just_wrote_a_great_book_the/

Touche, I think that is might of him to do so and on that one issue I agree with you. It's work celebrating. I hope it leads to something great.

Swordsmyth
10-17-2019, 02:34 PM
President Trump declared Thursday "a great day for civilization" as Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced terms of a cease-fire agreement that would end violence between Turkey (https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/world-regions/turkey) and Kurds in Syria, following a meeting (https://www.foxnews.com/world/turkey-erdogan-pence-pompeo-syria-snub) with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara.
The deal is for a 120-hour cease-fire, during which time the Kurdish-led forces could pull back from the roughly 20-mile-wide safe zone on the Turkish-Syrian border. All Turkish military operations under the recent offensive known as Operation Peace Spring will pause during that time, and the operation itself will come to an end entirely upon the completion of the Kurdish withdrawal, under the terms of the deal.

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...kish-president (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-pompeo-secure-cease-fire-agreement-in-syria-after-meeting-with-turkish-president)

Zippyjuan
10-17-2019, 03:01 PM
President Trump declared Thursday "a great day for civilization" as Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo announced terms of a cease-fire agreement that would end violence between Turkey (https://www.foxnews.com/category/world/world-regions/turkey) and Kurds in Syria, following a meeting (https://www.foxnews.com/world/turkey-erdogan-pence-pompeo-syria-snub) with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara.
The deal is for a 120-hour cease-fire, during which time the Kurdish-led forces could pull back from the roughly 20-mile-wide safe zone on the Turkish-Syrian border. All Turkish military operations under the recent offensive known as Operation Peace Spring will pause during that time, and the operation itself will come to an end entirely upon the completion of the Kurdish withdrawal, under the terms of the deal.

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...kish-president (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pence-pompeo-secure-cease-fire-agreement-in-syria-after-meeting-with-turkish-president)

Over-selling things as usual. It is only a temporary cease-fire. Civilization has not been saved.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50091305



All fighting will be paused for five days, and the US will help facilitate an "orderly withdrawal" of Kurdish-led troops from what Turkey terms a "safe zone" on the border, Mr Pence said.


Turkey's Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told journalists the offensive would only be permanently halted when the SDF had left the border zone.

"We are suspending the operation, not halting it," he said. "We will halt the operation only after [Kurdish forces] completely withdraw from the region."

Swordsmyth
10-17-2019, 03:05 PM
Over-selling things as usual. It is only a temporary cease-fire. Civilization has not been saved.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50091305

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and the operation itself will come to an end entirely upon the completion of the Kurdish withdrawal, under the terms of the deal.

Assad and the Russians are also putting themselves between the Turks and the Kurds so that will put an end to it too.

shakey1
10-17-2019, 09:12 PM
Neocons & MIC cronies' heads are exploding over this, I'm sure.

William Tell
10-18-2019, 10:29 AM
Wow. Last night Trump spent a significant amount of time talking about ending endless wars at his rally. Some people started chanting bring them home. Non interventionism is really putting America First, winning policy if he adopts it.

Zippyjuan
10-18-2019, 11:58 AM
Wow. Last night Trump spent a significant amount of time talking about ending endless wars at his rally. Some people started chanting bring them home. Non interventionism is really putting America First, winning policy if he adopts it.

"We will be out of Syria in 30 days". Trump- December, 2018.

"Lock her up! Lock her up!" he also got people to chant at rallies. Did he lock her up? He says lots of things at rallies he never really does.

enhanced_deficit
10-18-2019, 08:10 PM
Best. President.

Trump 2020!!!

^this.



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Swordsmyth
10-18-2019, 08:21 PM
^this.



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Trump went the extra mile to deal with the attacks against him for "abandoning our allies", being a peacemaker isn't bad.

TER
10-19-2019, 04:41 PM
^this.



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Thank you for the bump!

Trump is the best President of our lifetime. God bless him! I hope and pray he is President for the next 12 years.

enhanced_deficit
10-20-2019, 06:15 PM
Watch for a false flag. Everytime he makes a move toward peace, either violence occurs out of nowhere or the media whips up a fury over something that might happen.


This does not look like Lavon Affair (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508442-List-of-admitted-false-flag-attacks&p=6861574&viewfull=1#post6861574) type development to stop US exit from mideast. But it was never confirmed apparently who was behind attack on Saudi oil installations protected by advanced Patriot technology.


Major Blaze At Iran Oil Refinery Raises Suspicions Of Saudi Revenge Attack (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540363-Major-Blaze-At-Iran-Oil-Refinery-Raises-Suspicions-Of-Saudi-Revenge-Attack&)

US troops leaving Syria will go to Iraq, says Pentagon chief (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540367-Trump-did-not-indulge-his-quot-inner-Libertarion-quot-with-sending-of-more-troops-to-Iraq&)

4 hours ago
Media captionUS troops pass through Tal Tamer before a convoy of ambulances arrives from Ras al-Ain All US troops withdrawing from northern Syria are expected to be relocated to western Iraq, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper confirmed.
Mr Esper told reporters that, under current plans, about 1,000 soldiers would be redeployed to help stop the resurgence of Islamic State (IS).
President Donald Trump has previously pledged to bring US troops home.