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Anti Federalist
10-10-2019, 07:24 PM
Map of Northern California Power Outages

https://www.kqed.org/science/1948809/searchable-map-of-bay-area-power-outages

Record power shutoffs in California are set to become the new normal

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/08/california-pge-power-shutdown-wildfire

California utility faces gripes over deliberate blackouts

https://apnews.com/014e1056b9ad4ef092ec4a7a1195dfad

PG&E Office In Oroville Egged As Anger Over Shutoffs Mounts

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/10/10/pge-office-in-oroville-gets-egged/
Anti Federalist
10-10-2019, 07:25 PM
Gas prices exceed $5 a gallon at some Los Angeles area stations

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/gas-prices-exceed-5-a-gallon-at-some-los-angeles-area-stations

(Just filled the Jeep at $2.31 a gallon in NH)
Swordsmyth
10-10-2019, 07:28 PM
"You can check out but you can't leave" seems to be the goal.
Anti Federalist
10-10-2019, 07:28 PM
CA to ban ICE vehicles by 2040

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ca+to+ban+gas+cars
Anti Federalist
10-10-2019, 07:29 PM
"You can check out but you can't leave" seems to be the goal.

Oh they're leaving all right...and spreading their mental sickness everywhere else.
Stratovarious
10-10-2019, 07:42 PM
Those that left are now in Oregon and Washington State, lose lose for everyone.
Brian4Liberty
10-10-2019, 08:21 PM
Huge mistake for PG&E.

They are doing a combination of kneeling to the safety Nazis and engaging in some vindictive compliance.

But what they have really done is waste money, created a whole bunch of new liabilities, admitted guilt, and generated enough bad blood for the communists to “nationalize” them.

Brilliant!
Anti Federalist
10-11-2019, 08:51 PM
Hat tip to Swordsmyth


Man on oxygen dies 12 minutes after crews shut off power to prevent more fire in California
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540102-Man-on-oxygen-dies-12-minutes-after-crews-shut-off-power-to-prevent-more-fire-in-California)
pcosmar
10-11-2019, 09:28 PM
Gas prices exceed $5 a gallon at some Los Angeles area stations

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/gas-prices-exceed-5-a-gallon-at-some-los-angeles-area-stations

(Just filled the Jeep at $2.31 a gallon in NH)

Gas doesn't pump without electric power.. either.
Everybody is $hit out of luck if they were not prepared..
Anti Federalist
10-11-2019, 09:31 PM
Gas doesn't pump without electric power.. either.
Everybody is $hit out of luck if they were not prepared..

http://www.groz-tools.com/pix/bigpop_rotary_barrelpumps1.jpg
Brian4Liberty
10-11-2019, 09:37 PM
Gas prices exceed $5 a gallon at some Los Angeles area stations

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/gas-prices-exceed-5-a-gallon-at-some-los-angeles-area-stations

(Just filled the Jeep at $2.31 a gallon in NH)

Petroleum price gouging is a sacred tradition in Kalifornia. Don’t you believe in capitalism?
pcosmar
10-12-2019, 09:57 AM
http://www.groz-tools.com/pix/bigpop_rotary_barrelpumps1.jpg

Prepared..

But I'll bet there are few trunks with one of those in it.

Electricity can be generated anyplace there is Sun,, wind or moving water. and charge the batteries.

In six months all that gas in tanks will be varnish.

there are practical advantages to EVs beyond the ""eco" bull$hit..
Anti Federalist
10-12-2019, 10:08 AM
Prepared..

But I'll bet there are few trunks with one of those in it.

Electricity can be generated anyplace there is Sun,, wind or moving water. and charge the batteries.

In six months all that gas in tanks will be varnish.

there are practical advantages to EVs beyond the ""eco" bull$hit..

True enough...in the short term you can't carry a Jerry can of electrons though.

And you can run an ICE vehicle on a wood gasifier if it came down to it.

I know you're a fan of the electrics, and there are some upsides no doubt.
Anti Federalist
10-12-2019, 10:09 AM
Petroleum price gouging is a sacred tradition in Kalifornia. Don’t you believe in capitalism?

Is it still Kapitalism when the government does it? ;)
pcosmar
10-12-2019, 10:11 AM
I know you're a fan of the electrics, and there are some upsides no doubt.

Like Bow Thrusters. ;)
Stratovarious
10-12-2019, 01:12 PM
Prepared..

But I'll bet there are few trunks with one of those in it.

Electricity can be generated anyplace there is Sun,, wind or moving water. and charge the batteries.

In six months all that gas in tanks will be varnish.

there are practical advantages to EVs beyond the ""eco" bull$hit..

Not able to run is not a 'practical advantage' .
Stratovarious
10-12-2019, 01:15 PM
...
In six months all that gas in tanks will be varnish.
...

False; its good with stabilizer for two years.
tod evans
10-12-2019, 01:30 PM
Prepared..

But I'll bet there are few trunks with one of those in it.

Electricity can be generated anyplace there is Sun,, wind or moving water. and charge the batteries.

In six months all that gas in tanks will be varnish.

there are practical advantages to EVs beyond the ""eco" bull$hit..

I'm in the process of burning 3 y/o ethanol fuel out of the '56, stinks to high heaven!

It would certainly clog injectors and plug catalytic converters..

Cleaning a glass float bowl and running a piece of .030 wire through the one barrels jet is painless...
pcosmar
10-12-2019, 02:34 PM
Not able to run is not a 'practical advantage' .

And gas engines won't run without a constant supply of Gas..

Which some of you think can't be cut off regardless of how dependent on it you are.

Watch what happens when the Straits are closed...


I'm looking at alternatives...
Stratovarious
10-12-2019, 03:49 PM
And gas engines won't run without a constant supply of Gas..

Which some of you think can't be cut off regardless of how dependent on it you are.

Watch what happens when the Straits are closed...


I'm looking at alternatives...

Best of luck, electric cars won't help you.
tod evans
10-12-2019, 04:15 PM
I'm looking at alternatives...

Veggie oil and mechanical injectors is the best bet.
Anti Globalist
10-12-2019, 04:38 PM
Sounds to me like the goal isn't to actually escape from a wildfire.
pcosmar
10-12-2019, 06:28 PM
Veggie oil and mechanical injectors is the best bet.

Also good.. around a neighborhood with the resources..

I am thinking of a Motorhome conversion... with a generator for Hybrid mode.. Could get a couple hundred miles on batteries alone.
And Charge as you go is way more efficient use of Fuel.

Drawback is the initial set up.. Batteries are still too Pricey. Though the tech makes them doable.

Hemp Batteries and Supercaps may be a game changer....and I am watching that.