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enhanced_deficit
09-18-2019, 05:53 PM
From T&P:

Don't Let Erik Prince Anywhere Near The War In Afghanistan

Jared Keller
August 20, 2018 at 12:00 PM

Blackwater USA founder Erik Prince is sworn in on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Oct. 2, 2007, prior to testifying before the House Oversight Committee hearing examining the mission and performance of the private military contractor Blackwater in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Associated Press/T&P

With more than $700 billion spent (https://taskandpurpose.com/war-afghanistan-us-spending-cost/) (and at least $15.5 billion outright wasted (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/watchdog-says-u-s-wasted-more-15-billion-past-11-n894701)) on America's long war in Afghanistan, it's easy to understand why President Donald Trump might pursue unusual options to finally bring the 17-year-old conflict to a close.

Allowing Erik Prince to take over the war effort should not be one of them.
NBC News reported (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/officials-worry-trump-may-back-erik-prince-plan-privatize-war-n901401) on Friday that Prince, founder of notorious private security company Blackwater and brother of current Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, is once again pushing to effectively privatize the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan.
Prince's plan to take over the Forever War isn't new. In July 2017, the New York Times reported (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/world/asia/trump-afghanistan-policy-erik-prince-stephen-feinberg.html) that Prince originally developed a proposal alongside defense contractor DynCorp International CEO Stephen Feinberg for the Pentagon to rely exclusively on private contractors "at the behest" of erstwhile Trump consigliere Stephen Bannon and son-in-law Jared Kushner.

https://taskandpurpose.com/erik-prince-afghanistan-war-plan




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Anti Globalist
09-18-2019, 06:13 PM
We should drop him in the Middle East and leave him stranded. Then the terrorists can have their way with him.

Krugminator2
09-18-2019, 06:16 PM
We should drop him in the Middle East and leave him stranded. Then the terrorists can have their way with him.


Why? Erik Prince was a Ron Paul supporter and is libertarian. If you are going to spend money on the military, private contractors like Erik Prince are more efficient and deliver a better result.

Pretty good video on how he single handedly ended piracy in Somalia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk-VYm3uVqE

enhanced_deficit
09-18-2019, 06:19 PM
Why? Erik Prince was a Ron Paul supporter and is libertarian. If you are going to spend money on the military, private contractors like Erik Prince are more efficient and deliver a better result.

Do you think he believes in RP's blowback theory?

More "efficient" taxpayers funded private wars and profiteering occupation projects are not necessarily good if the direction and rationale is wrong.


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Krugminator2
09-18-2019, 06:27 PM
Do you think he believes in RP's blowback theory?

More "efficient" taxpayers funded private wars and profiteering occupation projects are not necessarily good if the direction and rationale is wrong.

Yes.

And what does any of that have to do with Erik Prince being bad? He doesn't dictate policy. He just carries it out. He is a hero in my book. Walter Block should update his book to have a chapter "Mercenary as Hero"

It is notable too that he is actually accountable. He lost his job during Iraq for his contractor's screwup. How many generals and public sector employees lose their jobs?

enhanced_deficit
09-18-2019, 06:44 PM
This is not about any one individual being good or bad. If a purposeless war is costing taxpayers $100Billiion a year and privatizing that war costs $80 Billion a year with more harm to civilians/less accountability, it's still a dumb and immoral move.

Do you think Ron Paul would support US taxpayers funded Afghan military war/occupation by Blackwater in 2019?

Krugminator2
09-18-2019, 06:51 PM
This is not about any one individual beiing good or bad

Actually that is all I was responding to.

Of course I oppose spending another dollar in Afghanistan

enhanced_deficit
09-19-2019, 10:48 AM
Actually that is all I was responding to.

Of course I oppose spending another dollar in Afghanistan

We're on same page then on this issue :)