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Swordsmyth
09-12-2019, 09:55 PM
Presidential candidate Andrew Yang announced at Thursday night’s debate that his campaign will randomly select 10 families and give them a total of $120,000 over the next year as part of a pilot program for his universal basic income plan.
Yang announced the online raffle during his opening statement. People will be able to enter during the next week, according to a person with knowledge of the plans. The money will be distributed to 10 families in increments of $1,000 per month as a way of highlighting Yang’s signature campaign promise, a universal basic income.
That plan, which Yang has dubbed the "Freedom Dividend," would provide every citizen over the age of 18 with $1,000 a month. A campaign official said the money would come from campaign funds and would be paid out for the full year even if Yang does not become the nominee.
Currently, Yang is paying out of his own pocket to provide two families in Iowa and New Hampshire with the $12,000 per year benefit along with a family in Florida who was selected in a Twitter giveaway. But the promise during tonight's debate would dramatically expand the unique campaign tactic.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/andrew-yang-announce-120-000-231324299.html

Brian4Liberty
09-12-2019, 10:02 PM
Yang is one upping the rest of the clowns. Everything is about free stuff. Forget free stuff, Yang will just bribe the entire population with money! Actually, that’s in addition to other free stuff.

kahless
09-12-2019, 11:08 PM
I would take his money. It does not mean I will vote for him.

VIDEODROME
09-13-2019, 03:29 AM
I think this is how he builds a mailing list. Long established politicians already have donor lists.

oyarde
09-13-2019, 06:12 AM
Its rigged , Jules and I are getting two of them so pretty limited what is left . Jules is actually going to vote for him. I am voting for me .

Working Poor
09-13-2019, 06:44 AM
He is better that most of the candidates as far as making what we wants to do clear. As far as dem candidates go I like him better that the rest.But not to worry he won't make it to the primaries. The dems are too busy taking themselves out right now.

Stratovarious
09-13-2019, 06:57 AM
He is better that most of the candidates as far as making what we wants to do clear. As far as dem candidates go I like him better that the rest.But not to worry he won't make it to the primaries. The dems are too busy taking themselves out right now.
He is THE SAME as all the Socialist candidates, as far as making what we wants to do clear.

Vow to Steal/Rob cash from 7 million voters , gift the spoils to 50 million voters that are most assuredly going to
do their utmost best to see said candidate voted you into office.

See; armed robbery.

Working Poor
09-13-2019, 07:02 AM
It amounts to armed robbery.

Where have you been? Have you ever gone to court and had t pay a fine? I have and, with all those armed order followers standing around sure seemed like armed robbery to me.

A. Havnes
09-13-2019, 08:52 AM
I can't see any hyper-inflation from that plan at all... :rolleyes:

Republicanguy
09-13-2019, 10:55 AM
Interesting he's doing that, but I thought the policy was weak by him on the debate.

Superfluous Man
09-13-2019, 11:13 AM
To be fair, Trump also engaged in vote buying in his 2016 campaign.

kpitcher
09-13-2019, 01:07 PM
So many promises are a handout to someone.

Promising tax cuts is the same as giving money to whatever group the tax cut will hit. Trump is promising tax cuts after 2020 for the middle class now, since he took care of the swamp first.

Promising to increase the military is a handout to the military industrial complex.

And on and on it goes.

specsaregood
09-13-2019, 01:12 PM
He is better that most of the candidates as far as making what we wants to do clear. As far as dem candidates go I like him better that the rest.But not to worry he won't make it to the primaries. The dems are too busy taking themselves out right now.

I don't see how you could like any "better" a douchebag that thinks he has the right to dictate what you can serve on your dinner table.

Superfluous Man
09-13-2019, 01:37 PM
Promising tax cuts is the same as giving money to whatever group the tax cut will hit.

No it isn't. It's letting them keep money that's already theirs. The government has no right to it in the first place.

Swordsmyth
09-13-2019, 03:00 PM
So many promises are a handout to someone.

Promising tax cuts is the same as giving money to whatever group the tax cut will hit. Trump is promising tax cuts after 2020 for the middle class now, since he took care of the swamp first.

Promising to increase the military is a handout to the military industrial complex.

And on and on it goes.
WRONG.

Not taking as much money from people is NOT the same as giving them money and while excessive spending on any government responsibility can amount to a giveaway it is not the same as just handing out money without getting something the government is legitimately supposed to have in return.

Occam's Banana
09-13-2019, 06:02 PM
Promising tax cuts is the same as giving money to whatever group the tax cut will hit.

By that logic, taxing people at any rate less than 100% is "giving money" to them ... :rolleyes:

Stratovarious
09-13-2019, 06:14 PM
So many promises are a handout to someone.

Promising tax cuts is the same as giving money to whatever group the tax cut will hit. Trump is promising tax cuts after 2020 for the middle class now, since he took care of the swamp first.

Promising to increase the military is a handout to the military industrial complex.

And on and on it goes.The only real tax cut for anyone would be eliminating;
DHS NSA TSA FBI CPS ATF EPA , Welfare, and Sanctuary Cities , and Goodies.........

oyarde
09-13-2019, 06:17 PM
I think Yang is batshit crazy but I agree with Working Poor he comes off as quite a bit more likable than the other clown car candidates . Which may explain why Jules has endorsed him . I am endorsing me .

Stratovarious
09-13-2019, 06:23 PM
My basic universal income plan is to insure that every family in America has $23,000 coming
in per month so they can experience the dignity that they deserve, I believe in equality for all,
reparations for everyone, and am sure you will vote me over oyarde .

oyarde
09-13-2019, 06:27 PM
My basic universal income plan is to insure that every family in America has $23,000 coming
in per month so they can experience the dignity that they deserve, I believe in equality for all,
reparations for everyone, and am sure you will vote me over oyarde .

Ya because my basic universal income from taxpayers will be Zero.

Stratovarious
09-13-2019, 06:42 PM
Yang was banned from Panda Express for yanking his wang in the chung fu ,
and stealing fortune cookies.

Stratovarious
09-13-2019, 06:46 PM
Ya because my basic universal income from taxpayers will be Zero.

Your BUI comes out of the Pentagon's lost 21 trillion?
Federal Reserve announce QE5 , and new printing presses?

oyarde
09-13-2019, 06:52 PM
Your BUI comes out of the Pentagon's lost 21 trillion?
Federal Reserve announce QE5 , and new printing presses?

Yes , I will run the country with the lost 30 trillion .

Marenco
09-13-2019, 07:11 PM
Yang was banned from Panda Express for yanking his wang in the chung fu ,
and stealing fortune cookies.

:cool: https://i.pinimg.com/236x/e5/6c/a2/e56ca2121235bd729c47a2a5c401fe18.jpg

kpitcher
09-14-2019, 08:59 AM
By that logic, taxing people at any rate less than 100% is "giving money" to them ... :rolleyes:

alright, I used bad wording. Of course tax cuts are good, the 'promise' of them is great. The history of their delivery is the problem. They are typically short term, or have no corresponding budget reductions, or get loaded up by the lobbyists, so promising the cuts is hoodwinking citizens for a short term reprieve. Maybe they should call it tax pruning, since it will grow back.

oyarde
09-14-2019, 09:06 AM
To be fair, Trump also engaged in vote buying in his 2016 campaign.

How much did they get ?

Theocrat
09-14-2019, 09:33 AM
So many promises are a handout to someone.

Promising tax cuts is the same as giving money to whatever group the tax cut will hit. Trump is promising tax cuts after 2020 for the middle class now, since he took care of the swamp first.

Promising to increase the military is a handout to the military industrial complex.

And on and on it goes.



What an absurd statement! Do you see what you've assumed there? You've assumed that the government owns 100% of the income in which they tax, and for the government to give a tax cut is for them to allow taxpayers to keep the rest of their money! Your viewpoint is simply in favor of slavery.

So, no, tax cuts are [B]not handouts because the income doesn't belong to the government, in the first place. If that's your position, then you seriously need to read some sound economic books, which you can find all over these forums.

Superfluous Man
09-14-2019, 11:28 AM
How much did they get ?

Tons. And they're still getting more. Now he's trying to buy 2020 votes.
https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2019/07/25/usda-announces-details-support-package-farmers

Brian4Liberty
09-14-2019, 11:46 AM
My basic universal income plan is to insure that every family in America has $23,000 coming
in per month so they can experience the dignity that they deserve, I believe in equality for all,
reparations for everyone, and am sure you will vote me over oyarde .

My plan is to give $1 million to everyone over the age of 18. There will no longer be any poor people. Everyone will be a millionaire. Andrew Yang is a cheapskate that wants to keep people poor. Vote for me!

devil21
09-14-2019, 11:56 AM
Presumably prices would increase to account for any new currency in circulation and the increased velocity.

After diving deep down the rabbit hole of how our economic system really works, I'm inclined to think this UBI is actually our currency (aka the value of our labor) that's been sitting unused in trust, under control of the Treasury, the whole time the current system has been in effect. Explaining the entire rationale behind that opinion would take a very long post (goes into the whole ALL CAPS NAME securitized birth certificates, mutual fund trading profits from the BC's etc, for those that have looked into it at all) but I think it's just distributing to the people what is already theirs and calling it a "benefit". A previously unclaimed benefit but not "new" currency being created. The entire economic system has been socialist since the New Deal...


Zippy will be here any moment to try to shut down my posts on that topic....3....2....1....

Theocrat
09-14-2019, 12:04 PM
My plan is to give $1 million to everyone over the age of 18. There will no longer be any poor people. Everyone will be a millionaire. Andrew Yang is a cheapskate that wants to keep people poor. Vote for me!

Your plan of making everyone over the age of 18 a millionaire still keeps them poor, too, as Yang's plan does; thus, you're not ridding the world of poor people.

So, since there are billions of people in the world living in households, then my plan will ensure that every household in the world receives $1 billion. We will tax all billionaires to fund my program, and I will appoint more members to the Federal Reserve Board to ensure we have efficient, reliable quantitative easing to help speed up the process.

Vote for me! :check: :money: :handpeace:

Stratovarious
09-14-2019, 01:36 PM
My plan is to give $1 million to everyone over the age of 18. There will no longer be any poor people. Everyone will be a millionaire. Andrew Yang is a cheapskate that wants to keep people poor. Vote for me!

We have clearly been outbid.... :frog:

Danke
09-14-2019, 02:14 PM
We have clearly been outbid.... :frog:

We need to stop being so ridiculous. $1M or $1B is obviously unaffordable.

And who can live on only $1000.

So my proposal is $4,595.

oyarde
09-14-2019, 04:02 PM
Tons. And they're still getting more. Now he's trying to buy 2020 votes.
https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2019/07/25/usda-announces-details-support-package-farmers

That USDA is wicked organization . I have been telling people for decades .

Stratovarious
09-14-2019, 05:08 PM
We need to stop being so ridiculous. $1M or $1B is obviously unaffordable.

And who can live on only $1000.

So my proposal is $4,595.

Who's going to fix the pot holes ?