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Mr.NoSmile
09-10-2019, 10:12 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fires-john-bolton-as-national-security-adviser


President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced that he had fired his national-security adviser John Bolton.

“I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House,” the president tweeted. “I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.”

Schifference
09-10-2019, 10:18 AM
Good job for Rand especially if he in not seeking reelection.

donnay
09-10-2019, 10:23 AM
John Bolton got caught leaking to the press. Good.

Matt Collins
09-10-2019, 10:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deFDXYdF2g4

GunnyFreedom
09-10-2019, 10:27 AM
lol Bolton knew what was coming, offered to resign, and the President waited and fired him. Couldn’t have happened to a better guy. Lmao

1171455806069305346

Buh bye. Go away.

Origanalist
09-10-2019, 10:28 AM
I wonder who will replace him? Henry Kissinger?

Warlord
09-10-2019, 10:31 AM
Yessss! This is great news.

devil21
09-10-2019, 10:33 AM
Interesting. Let's see who replaces him. It appears Bolton's main contributions were as an agitator, a leashed attack dog, and at times a great excuse for why the China "trade deal" hasn't happened. I'm sure there's some gun running and money laundering hidden in there somewhere too.

juleswin
09-10-2019, 10:37 AM
Man takes a dump in his own doorstep
Same man waits for 3 months before cleaning up his dump
Some people celebrate this move as some kind of a great move

Me wonders what made him take the dump in the first place

juleswin
09-10-2019, 10:39 AM
Interesting. Let's see who replaces him. It appears Bolton's main contributions were as an agitator, a leashed attack dog, and at times a great excuse for why the China "trade deal" hasn't happened. I'm sure there's some gun running and money laundering hidden in there somewhere too.

He was also a great lightening rod. The WH implements some awful foreign policy and people reflectively blame it on Bolton instead of the true leader of the country.

TheCount
09-10-2019, 10:47 AM
Man takes a dump in his own doorstep
Same man waits for 3 months before cleaning up his dump
Some people celebrate this move as some kind of a great move

Me wonders what made him take the dump in the first place

This. This exactly.

Warlord
09-10-2019, 10:52 AM
Oh come on guys, stop ruining our moment of celebration... Trump finally did the right thing.

Cleaner44
09-10-2019, 10:56 AM
After a while Trump realized he could save money hiring an intern to answer every question with the reply, "Just bomb them sir"!

Bolton is obsolete.

Well done Trump.

Cleaner44
09-10-2019, 10:59 AM
This is Bolton the Terrier.

https://getleashedmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Miniature-Schnauzer-31-300x294.jpg

His job is to bark whenever he is asked the question, "Should we bomb them?"

dannno
09-10-2019, 11:02 AM
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5abca18d1e0000fb077b00d1.jpeg?cache=bggi6t5kvo&ops=1778_1000

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0FvktOR0k9s/hqdefault.jpg

tommyrp12
09-10-2019, 11:11 AM
1171456619038687232
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1171456619038687232

devil21
09-10-2019, 11:14 AM
Interesting that it's the day before 9/11 anniversary. :confused:

Dary
09-10-2019, 11:20 AM
'bout time. Woo Hoo!

juleswin
09-10-2019, 11:24 AM
Great foreign policy instincts my arse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4hR4O4Yjmw

Rand Paul is either doing some dirty, smelly and disgusting but politically necessary brown nosing or he has completely lost his mind. Trump doesn't have great foreign policy instincts, he ran on a lie and surrounded himself with hardcore neocons/zionists. If he had any instincts, he wouldn't have hired him in the first place.

Stratovarious
09-10-2019, 11:25 AM
I wonder who will replace him? Henry Kissinger?

Netanyahu

dannno
09-10-2019, 11:26 AM
Great foreign policy instincts my arse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4hR4O4Yjmw

Rand Paul is either doing some dirty, smelly and disgusting but politically necessary brown nosing or he has completely lost his mind. Trump doesn't have great foreign policy instincts, he ran on a lie and surrounded himself with hardcore neocons/zionists. If he had any instincts, he wouldn't have hired him in the first place.

Either that or you're wrong.

Cdn_for_liberty
09-10-2019, 11:27 AM
Great! I hope next is Mike Pompeo.

juleswin
09-10-2019, 11:32 AM
Either that or you're wrong.

I too wish I am wrong but I have been in the game way too long to be able to see patterns. Bush also ran on a non interventionist foreign policy but ended up surrounding himself with neocons just like Trump. To this day some people still believe that Bush had great foreign policy instincts but was undermined by his VP. It wasn't true with Bush and it is not true with Trump.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 11:36 AM
Trump only hires the best people.

Besides whining about election polls in 2016 (get over it already! Are you really that insecure? I guess so! Winners don't need to whine!), he was also tweeting about there being no chaos on foreign policy at the White House. They he fired Bolton.


The Dishonest Media likes to create......the look of turmoil in the White House, of which there is none.

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TheCount
09-10-2019, 11:38 AM
Oh come on guys, stop ruining our moment of celebration... Trump finally did the right thing.

The right thing would have been not to appoint Bolton in the first place.


This is just like when people celebrated Trump's firing of McMaster, for all the same reasons. And then we got Bolton. And Pompeo. And Barr. And Haspel.

TheCount
09-10-2019, 11:51 AM
...


Remember when you told us that Bolton had changed because Cernovich told you so in a PornHub video?


He's changed :D

Anti Globalist
09-10-2019, 11:53 AM
Probably the best news I'll hear all day. That being said, he should have never hired him in the first place.

Robert089
09-10-2019, 11:55 AM
Charles Kupperman will be the interim NSC. Hopefully he will get confirmed as he was very close to Bolton's ideology and was instrumental in getting the US to leave the Iran deal. Hopefully pressure against Iran will steadily increase, along with support for Israel, America's closest ally in the world.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 11:56 AM
It sounds like once again Trump was too chicken to fire somebody face to face and did it via Twitter.

juleswin
09-10-2019, 11:57 AM
Remember when you told us that Bolton had changed because Cernovich told you so in a PornHub video?

Its the deepstate's fault, someone threatened to impeach him or something. I am sure someone made him do or not do something. Just for the record, the deep state and the threat of impeachment would stop having an effect on Trump once he wins a 2nd term :rolleyes:

juleswin
09-10-2019, 11:59 AM
Charles Kupperman will be the interim NSC. Hopefully he will get confirmed as he was very close to Bolton's ideology and was instrumental in getting the US to leave the Iran deal. Hopefully pressure against Iran will steadily increase, along with support for Israel, America's closest ally in the world.

Bolton's public image has been tarnished, I think the deep state needed to put a fresh face to old evil.

dannno
09-10-2019, 12:09 PM
Remember when you told us that Bolton had changed because Cernovich told you so in a PornHub video?

You didn't see any hint of sarcasm in there anywhere?

juleswin
09-10-2019, 12:33 PM
Charles Kupperman will be the interim NSC. Hopefully he will get confirmed as he was very close to Bolton's ideology and was instrumental in getting the US to leave the Iran deal. Hopefully pressure against Iran will steadily increase, along with support for Israel, America's closest ally in the world.

+rep, it seems like some of the trump fan boys have already started attacking you for daring to speak the truth. Trump seems to have replaced a known Israeli firster, neocon, zionist, hawk with an unknown Israeli firster, neocon , zionist, hawk. This proves that he did not fires Bolton for the reasons people on this had would have wanted.

This is an excerpts from an articles written about him when he was hired.


Mr. Bolton appeared to be fortifying what amounted to the most hard-line approach towards Iran in an administration that was already determined to bring Iran to its knees by elevating Charles M. Kupperman, a long-time associate, and former Reagan administration official, to deputy National Security Adviser.

Mr. Kupperman, a former Boeing, and Lockheed Martin executive, previously served on the board for the Center for Security Policy, a far-right think tank advocating for a hawkish Iran policy founded by Frank Gaffney, a former US government official who is widely viewed as an Islamophobe and conspiracy theorist.

Similarly, Mr. Trump, reportedly on Mr. Bolton’s advice, hired this month Richard Goldberg as the National Security Council’s director for countering Iranian weapons of mass destruction.

https://intpolicydigest.org/2019/01/16/inside-the-beltway-iran-hardliners-vs-iran-hardliners/

Have a dialogue with the man, debate him instead of trying to undermine him with the rep system.

Sammy
09-10-2019, 12:35 PM
Thank you President Trump!
I'm proud that you fired this son of a bitch!

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 12:42 PM
Good riddance.

What other administration would have done this?

Philhelm
09-10-2019, 12:46 PM
I wonder who will replace him? Henry Kissinger?

John Foster Dulles

Warlord
09-10-2019, 01:40 PM
Good riddance.

What other administration would have done this?

SS, it looks liike you were right. You've been saying the withdrawal will happen no matter what :up:

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 01:42 PM
SS, it looks liike you were right. You've been saying the withdrawal will happen no matter what :up:
Hopefully this will also help with N. Korea.

kona
09-10-2019, 02:00 PM
I have a feeling Douglas MacGregor is in play.

Valli6
09-10-2019, 02:03 PM
Rand Paul coming up on Neil Cavuto's show (Fox news - 4PM eastern).

Dary
09-10-2019, 02:16 PM
Rand Paul coming up on Neil Cavuto's show (Fox news - 4PM eastern).
And making sense.

tommyrp12
09-10-2019, 02:19 PM
Only video so far.
https://twitter.com/TeamCavuto/status/1171516232748503043

oyarde
09-10-2019, 02:46 PM
Interesting that it's the day before 9/11 anniversary. :confused:

Uh no , that is Patriot Day or what is called Oyarde Day here .

Schifference
09-10-2019, 02:46 PM
Unreliable sources not very close to the White House state that Trump has narrowed it down to two people. It is a toss up between Charles Krauthammer and John McCain.

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 02:47 PM
Uh no , that is Patriot Day or what is called Oyarde Day here .
Trump should replace Bolton with Oyarde.

Valli6
09-10-2019, 02:48 PM
Bolton's mad. :D

..."I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, 'Let's talk about it tomorrow,'" Bolton wrote, slightly contradicting Mr. Trump's account that he had asked for Bolton's resignation.

And Bolton, who was a Fox News contributor before he took the administration job, also appears to be taking issue with the president's version of his departure. He texted Fox News anchor Brian Kilmeade, "Let's be clear — I resigned." He also texted Washington Post reporter Robert Costa, "I will have my say in due course."

A person close to Bolton told CBS News' Margaret Brennan that Bolton did indeed offer to resign Monday night, and the president said the two should talk about it Tuesday, although that conversation did not ultimately occur. This person told Brennan that Bolton did submit a letter and characterized it as a very brief letter, not a "diatribe."

The source defended Bolton's service in the Trump administration, asserting that in the last 17 months — the duration of his tenure — there have been "no bad deals," telling Brennan that Bolton weighed in significantly on Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea, Russia, China, Syria and Turkey.

The White House will not be issuing an additional statement beyond Mr. Trump's tweet for now. White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham reaffirmed to reporters that Mr. Trump asked for Bolton's resignation letter Tuesday night. She also confirmed that Bolton is not currently at the White House...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fires-john-bolton-his-services-are-no-longer-needed-at-the-white-house/

Warlord
09-10-2019, 02:48 PM
HAHAHJAHAHA


Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) defended outgoing national security adviser John Bolton on Tuesday, calling his firing a “huge loss.”

"His view was not always the same as everybody else in the room. That’s why you wanted him there. The fact that he was a contrarian from time to time is an asset not a liability,” Romney told reporters Tuesday after the president tweeted that Bolton had been fired.

“I’m very very unhappy to hear that he’s leaving. It is a huge loss for the administration in my opinion and for the nation,” Romney added.



https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/460712-romney-bolton-firing-a-huge-loss-for-nation

ThePaleoLibertarian
09-10-2019, 03:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0CpiLysJ4

eleganz
09-10-2019, 03:33 PM
I didn't think this action would trigger anybody here except some of the usual resident RPF TDS suffering mental patients, and I was right.

pcosmar
09-10-2019, 03:43 PM
First thought,, Cool, and good riddance.

who he will be replaced with is concerning.

ProBlue33
09-10-2019, 03:56 PM
Replace neocons with Libertarians and you won't have this revolving door of stupidity.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 03:57 PM
First thought,, Cool, and good riddance.

who he will be replaced with is concerning.

Another amazing candidate highly qualified for the job. He only hires the best!

brushfire
09-10-2019, 04:05 PM
It takes some people a bit longer to figure things out.


Good on Rand, for whatever influence he may have had:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yjOZQSH9Es

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 04:26 PM
Will McMaster be back? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/frustration-bolton-mounted-trump-reached-out-ex-adviser-mcmaster-n1051996


As frustration with Bolton mounted, Trump reached out to ex-adviser McMaster

In phone calls to McMaster, Trump told his second national security adviser that he missed him.

WASHINGTON — As President Donald Trump began losing confidence in national security adviser John Bolton, whom he fired on Tuesday, he reached out to the man he had fired to give Bolton the job: retired Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster.

In phone calls to McMaster — the first of which took place last fall — Trump told his second national security adviser that he missed him, according to two people familiar with the conversations. It’s a sentiment the president has also expressed to White House aides, they said. Trump has solicited McMaster's advice on various national security challenges, even asking McMaster whom he should nominate to lead the Pentagon, they said.

Trump's contacts with McMaster perhaps presaged his decision Tuesday to unceremoniously fire Bolton. They also were a remarkable shift for the president that is emblematic of how much Bolton fell out of favor since Trump welcomed him into the White House 17 months ago. At that time, Trump was barely speaking to McMaster and regularly did derogatory impressions of him in his absence, according to current and former White House officials.

Like Bolton, McMaster’s firing was also hasty and announced publicly by the president on Twitter. Bolton later said he had resigned and was not fired. Trump's patience for Bolton ultimately wore thin; aides say Trump was close to firing Bolton earlier this year, even putting his name on a list of officials he'd like to get rid of before the end of the year, after which such moves might have a negative effect on his re-election campaign, officials said.


Trump's phone calls to McMaster began in the fall of 2018, about six months after Bolton had taken the job. The most recent call that the people familiar with the conversations knew of was a few months ago.

In another conversation in late spring, when Trump was unsure about his choice of then-Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan to permanently hold the job, the president wanted to know what McMaster thought he should do. At the time, Trump was asking his advisers inside and outside the White House for alternatives to Shanahan, and he ultimately switched to nominate Mark Esper, who was confirmed by the Senate.


Still, the president's outreach to McMaster surprised the people closest to him. "He must be getting pretty far down on his call list because McMaster is not at the top," another former White House official said.

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 04:27 PM
Will McMaster be back? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/frustration-bolton-mounted-trump-reached-out-ex-adviser-mcmaster-n1051996
More anonymous garbage.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 04:31 PM
More anonymous garbage.

You seem grumpy today. Everything OK at home? The hours at work getting to you? Not enough respect?

ILUVRP
09-10-2019, 04:43 PM
i would bet trump's wife and daughter had a lot to do with bolton being fired , what women in her right mind could stand that clown.

rand paul would be great

i would add , who ever advised trump to pick bolton should also be fired .

Working Poor
09-10-2019, 04:45 PM
Good job for Rand especially if he in not seeking reelection.What did Rand have to do with Bolton being fired?

shakey1
09-10-2019, 04:51 PM
:up:

pao
09-10-2019, 05:17 PM
What did Rand have to do with Bolton being fired?

Rand has spoken out against Bolton, and Rand's opinion is supposedly sometimes respected by Trump.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 05:18 PM
Maybe it was because North Korea asked Trump to fire Bolton.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2le9wHz-jo

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 05:30 PM
President Trump’s latest decision to fire John Bolton as national security adviser has neoconservatives screaming.

The usual suspect, Ben Shapiro is the most vocal in his displeasure with Trump’s decision.
On Twitter, Shapiro stated (https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1171455400610160642),”This is terrible for the White House. Bolton was correct about the Taliban; State wasn’t. Bolton has been a hawkish voice for a tough national security policy, and his ouster likely signals that Trump’s approach will be significantly softer from this point forward.”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/hes-mad-ben-shapiro-bashes-trumps-decision-to-fire-john-bolton/

dannno
09-10-2019, 05:40 PM
Oil Prices Sink After Trump Ousts John BoltonThe market is assuming Bolton’s departure could lead to an eventual loosening of sanctions against Iran and Venezuela and more global supply of oilhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-prices-sink-after-trump-ousts-john-bolton-11568148284

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 05:46 PM
Oil Prices Sink After Trump Ousts John BoltonThe market is assuming Bolton’s departure could lead to an eventual loosening of sanctions against Iran and Venezuela and more global supply of oilhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-prices-sink-after-trump-ousts-john-bolton-11568148284

Or not. Trump loves sanctions and tariffs. Lets him pretend to be a tough guy.

axiomata
09-10-2019, 05:55 PM
As reported by sources close to the president, Trump fired Bolton by saying quote: "You're fired. I mustache you to hand me your resignation letter tomorrow morning."

sparebulb
09-10-2019, 05:58 PM
Maybe it was because North Korea asked Trump to fire Bolton.

But Zippy, you always told us that Putin is the one that controls Trump.

Which is it?

The Zippy seems particularly agitated today.

Look on the bright side, Zippy. John B will appreciate you giving him a big sloppy kiss on his dirty sanchez when he gets back from DC.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 06:05 PM
But Zippy, you always told us that Putin is the one that controls Trump.

Which is it?

The Zippy seems particularly agitated today.

Look on the bright side, Zippy. John B will appreciate you giving him a big sloppy kiss on his dirty sanchez when he gets back from DC.

https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/article_1360/b3/645576face4c4316b0bc16277ffe94ed.jpg

Danke
09-10-2019, 06:07 PM
Maybe it was because North Korea asked Trump to fire Bolton.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2le9wHz-jo



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Mach
09-10-2019, 07:19 PM
Exactly........................... no matter what he does, they attack.

They don't want a true independent person in Office.


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TheCount
09-10-2019, 07:56 PM
You didn't see any hint of sarcasm in there anywhere?

Nope.

UWDude
09-10-2019, 07:59 PM
https://static.themoscowtimes.com/image/article_1360/b3/645576face4c4316b0bc16277ffe94ed.jpg

It's post-a-picture-where-one-person-meets-another-person-and-insinuate-the-picture-means-they-were-slobbing-their-knobs time!.

Bolton has been a great friend of Putin. So has Trump... with all those extra sanctions... and...

Trump has been nice, as anything less than war on Russia is "nice". They feel the control slipping. Not just in policy life, but in their personal lives as well. Everything is breaking, life is delusion after delusion. Parents are dying. Kids rebelling. Ever put chocolate syrup on the end of a cold .45? Slob on that.

The Capture of Aleppo.
So slow. That moment, when Aleppo was an evil literal swirl on the map, divided evenly, swirling to the center.
The victory was slow. So slow. The victory assured in December, no September, as I have always said.
5th gen.

PropOrNot?
UKRAINE IS NOT WEAK!

Anyways. Smoke and mirrors victory. Foreign Policy has been terrible.
I like the rest fear even worse next. six letter appointment star.

It's really too bad the DNC is going to crook Gabbard out of the fight.
That would have been a good show.

Brian4Liberty
09-10-2019, 08:06 PM
The media coverage on Bolton leaving is extraordinary. The amount of time spent on it in all corners of the media has to exceed the coverage of the departure of any other staff member. An active shooter might not get this much coverage.

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 08:07 PM
The media coverage on Bolton leaving is extraordinary. The amount of time spent on it in all corners of the media has to exceed the coverage of the departure of any other staff member. An active shooter might not get this much coverage.
When he dies will he get a state funeral like McCain's tumor did?

Brian4Liberty
09-10-2019, 08:17 PM
When he dies will he get a state funeral like McCain's tumor did?

Neoconservative tool Mitt Romney would certainly like to attend.

Romney: Bolton firing 'a huge loss' for nation (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/460712-romney-bolton-firing-a-huge-loss-for-nation)

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 08:19 PM
Neoconservative tool Mitt Romney would certainly like to attend.

Romney: Bolton firing 'a huge loss' for nation (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/460712-romney-bolton-firing-a-huge-loss-for-nation)
A double funeral?

I'd go for that.

Zippyjuan
09-10-2019, 08:24 PM
It's post-a-picture-where-one-person-meets-another-person-and-insinuate-the-picture-means-they-were-slobbing-their-knobs time!.

Bolton has been a great friend of Putin. So has Trump... with all those extra sanctions... and...

Trump has been nice, as anything less than war on Russia is "nice". They feel the control slipping. Not just in policy life, but in their personal lives as well. Everything is breaking, life is delusion after delusion. Parents are dying. Kids rebelling. Ever put chocolate syrup on the end of a cold .45? Slob on that.



It was a silly response to a silly post.

fcreature
09-10-2019, 08:40 PM
Great foreign policy instincts my arse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4hR4O4Yjmw

Rand Paul is either doing some dirty, smelly and disgusting but politically necessary brown nosing or he has completely lost his mind.

Hyperbolic nonsense.

Pauls' Revere
09-10-2019, 08:41 PM
I wonder who will replace him? Henry Kissinger?

John Mc Cain?..wait. :tears:

Pauls' Revere
09-10-2019, 08:42 PM
Bolton was a bad choice in the first place.

brushfire
09-10-2019, 09:26 PM
When he dies will he get a state funeral like McCain's tumor did?


They buried his tumor, but the evil illness lives on in his sausage of a daughter.

Swordsmyth
09-10-2019, 09:28 PM
They buried his tumor, but the evil illness lives on in his sausage of a daughter.
Unfortunately the tumor had but one life to give for its country.

enhanced_deficit
09-10-2019, 09:59 PM
Did MAGA thank him for his service?

That would tell the full story.

RonZeplin
09-10-2019, 11:06 PM
Trump had to fire Bolton because he was getting more press, than he was.

:info: The quickest way to get fired by Donnell is to get your name in the MSM headlines.

He'll be replaced by some unknown neocon who gets zero coverage on the teebee. .

devil21
09-11-2019, 01:37 AM
Uh no , that is Patriot Day or what is called Oyarde Day here .

I will celebrate oyarde day and split some wood in your honor, sir.

Sammy
09-11-2019, 01:29 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1171852394977779713

Trump is 100% right!

nobody's_hero
09-11-2019, 02:54 PM
Great foreign policy instincts my arse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4hR4O4Yjmw

Rand Paul is either doing some dirty, smelly and disgusting but politically necessary brown nosing or he has completely lost his mind. Trump doesn't have great foreign policy instincts, he ran on a lie and surrounded himself with hardcore neocons/zionists. If he had any instincts, he wouldn't have hired him in the first place.

Get me the long list of people in D. C. who would have called off a retaliatory strike on Iran over a drone.

UWDude
09-11-2019, 03:08 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1171852394977779713

Trump is 100% right!

Interesting John Bolton said "Libyan model". Ted Cruz strangely posted a pic to Kim with a gory picture of a dead ghaddafi.

like they were colluding to scuttle the peace agreement.

Kim should not give up his nukes. In 7 years American leadership will probably be back in firm establishment control.

Swordsmyth
09-11-2019, 03:54 PM
Get me the long list of people in D. C. who would have called off a retaliatory strike on Iran over a drone.
I'd settle for the short list.

Swordsmyth
09-11-2019, 03:56 PM
Cleaning house:



Three top aides to former national security adviser John Bolton submitted their resignations on Wednesday a day after Bolton and President Donald Trump parted ways. Garrett Marquis, Bolton’s top spokesman, Sarah Tinsley, his communications director, and scheduler Christine Samuelian all resigned in what a source called an amicable fashion.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-bolton-aides/three-bolton-aides-submit-their-resignations-at-white-house-idUSKCN1VW24P

Zippyjuan
09-11-2019, 04:36 PM
Cleaning house:



Three top aides to former national security adviser John Bolton submitted their resignations on Wednesday a day after Bolton and President Donald Trump parted ways. Garrett Marquis, Bolton’s top spokesman, Sarah Tinsley, his communications director, and scheduler Christine Samuelian all resigned in what a source called an amicable fashion.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-bolton-aides/three-bolton-aides-submit-their-resignations-at-white-house-idUSKCN1VW24P

Trump's White House must really be dirty with all the "house cleaning" he has had to do. Keep in mind, he hired all those people. I thought he said he only hires the best?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gauV6-DHQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAaR6pp9iDY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRV5HdfMZMM

dannno
09-11-2019, 06:03 PM
Trump's White House must really be dirty with all the "house cleaning" he has had to do. Keep in mind, he hired all those people. I thought he said he only hires the best?

Define "best people"

kcchiefs6465
09-11-2019, 06:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Saf1xWt.jpg

enhanced_deficit
09-11-2019, 07:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Saf1xWt.jpg



This is big deal.
GOP-Netanyahu wing should appoint another neocon to replace Bolton.

Tucker Carlson: Neocon Bolton replacement another neocon? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539067-Tucker-Carlson-Neocon-Bolton-replacement-another-neocon&)

juleswin
09-11-2019, 07:30 PM
Get me the long list of people in D. C. who would have called off a retaliatory strike on Iran over a drone.

I don't have a long list of that. The same way I cannot give a long list of people in DC who would have resisted bombing Syria after he had made a red line about chemical weapons and they happen to "use" it. Obama made the list while Trump and Clinton would not have made that list. Trump also made the list of the few people in DC who would have reneged on the nuclear deal. So yea, he may have been good on one of the lists but in totality his name shows up in many of the bad lists.

He is a neocon, zionist, Isreali firster, warmonger, anti second amendment and he has no business as the POTUS.

Swordsmyth
09-11-2019, 07:34 PM
I don't have a long list of that. The same way I cannot give a long list of people in DC who would have resisted bombing Syria after he had made a red line about chemical weapons and they happen to "use" it. Obama made the list while Trump and Clinton would not have made that list. Trump also made the list of the few people in DC who would have reneged on the nuclear deal. So yea, he may have been good on one of the lists but in totality his name shows up in many of the bad lists.

He is a neocon, zionist, Isreali firster, warmonger, anti second amendment and he has no business as the POTUS.
Name someone better who is an option.

enhanced_deficit
09-11-2019, 07:35 PM
Man takes a dump in his own doorstep
Same man waits for 3 months before cleaning up his dump
Some people celebrate this move as some kind of a great move

Me wonders what made him take the dump in the first place

I'm speechless.

But still not sure if "Man" is GOP-Adelson/MAGA alpha wing, "dump" is Hon. Bolton and "doorstep" is US foreign policy.

If so, this analogy goes bit too far.

juleswin
09-11-2019, 07:48 PM
Name someone better who is an option.

I think Obama was slightly better than Trump, he was slightly better than him on the economy, second amendment, trade, resisting the deep state's war efforts, staying away from twitter. Trump is slightly better on tax cuts, brown nosing the Israeli govt, he has a hotter wife, probably higher levels of testosterone etc etc

But I know you'll dismiss my answer because Obama is no longer an option :(

Swordsmyth
09-11-2019, 07:52 PM
I think Obama was slightly better than Trump, he was slightly better than him on the economy, second amendment, trade, resisting the deep state's war efforts, staying away from twitter. Trump is slightly better on tax cuts, brown nosing the Israeli govt, he has a hotter wife, probably higher levels of testosterone etc etc

But I know you'll dismiss my answer because Obama is no longer an option :(
LOL

Not only is he not an option but he was not the least bit better, he was MUCH worse.

Every single thing you said is wrong except the part about Israel but he did their bidding more while giving them less lip service and the part about Twitter but that is a good thing about Trump.

UWDude
09-11-2019, 07:55 PM
...

VIDEODROME
09-11-2019, 09:48 PM
https://youtu.be/DBnT1SgJvhA?t=28

timosman
09-11-2019, 11:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKcwG5pSpVg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKcwG5pSpVg

Swordsmyth
09-12-2019, 12:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKcwG5pSpVg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKcwG5pSpVg

Even if I hated Trump I wouldn't think Colbert was funny.

juleswin
09-12-2019, 01:38 AM
Yeah? Libya? Syria?

How do you rate Obama's love affair with the tongue of satan, aka western mainstream media.

Why did the tongue of satan lick his BBC for all 8 years?
(you brought up the high testosterone, ill bring up 5 eyes members)

Yeah.

Trump is taking it to the MSM. The MSM is getting beat the $#@! up.
And that has always been rule #1.

BTW, Obama had 1 gun ban, and Trump has also had one. Trump rescinded Obama's gun ban. So I score it 1 - 0 Trump on 2A.

Trump was more hawkish than Obama regarding Libya. Trump wanted US troops on the ground while Obama refused this push by Trump. As for Syria, Trump has bombed both Syrian and Russian forces on the ground, funded the Al Qaeda linked white helmets and now starting a save zone with Turkey in the North. Despite the fork tongues rhetoric, his actions have been more hawkish than Obama.

What was Obama's gun ban? Regardless, Trump has one executive order gun ban in only 2 yrs and he about to enact more of em before he is done. So far, he has been worse than Obama.

UWDude
09-12-2019, 03:34 AM
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UWDude
09-12-2019, 03:35 AM
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juleswin
09-12-2019, 03:55 AM
This is all an interesting perspective, but it does not answer my question, in any way.

How do you rate Obama's love affair with the tongue of satan, aka western mainstream media.

I care more about actions, not how people perform with the media. The neocon western media seems to hate Trump but his actions are usually in line with what they support. People rejoice that he fired Pompeo but his acting replacement is just as bad as he is and he still has Elliot Abrams and deep state Pompeo in his cabinet. The deep state media hates the man but loves his policies and appointees.

But yes, Obama had a very warm and loving relationship with the western (worldwide) media.

UWDude
09-12-2019, 10:02 AM
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nobody's_hero
09-12-2019, 01:46 PM
I'd settle for the short list.

They're the same length.

pcosmar
09-12-2019, 03:33 PM
Define "best people"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI

Swordsmyth
09-12-2019, 05:11 PM
President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) on Thursday said he does not plan to make Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (https://thehill.com/people/mike-pompeo) his national security adviser.
The president told reporters as he left to attend a GOP House retreat in Baltimore that he spoke with Pompeo earlier in the day, and that the secretary of State "liked the idea of somebody [else] in there.”


Trump said Thursday he has 15 candidates under consideration to replace Bolton. A day earlier he said there were five.
"A lot of people want the job. It’s a great job," he said. "It’s great because it’s a lot of fun to work with Donald Trump. And it’s very easy actually to work me. You know why it’s easy? Because I make all the decisions."

More at: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/461174-trump-says-pompeo-not-under-consideration-to-replace-bolton

devil21
09-15-2019, 10:21 AM
Charles Kupperman, long time advisor to Bolton, replaced Bolton on an interim appointment.

https://www.businessinsider.com/meet-charlie-kupperman-trumps-acting-national-security-adviser-2019-9

Mach
09-18-2019, 05:09 AM
Boltonism

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/cartoons/images/2019/09/12/steve_kelley_steve_kelley_for_sep_12_2019_5_.jpg

enhanced_deficit
09-18-2019, 11:58 AM
I wonder who will replace him? Henry Kissinger?

Suspense is over and new guy seems to be no less of a supporter of our global allies in mideast than Henry Kissinger or Bolton:



https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_38/3015251/190918-robert-obrien-cs-927a_e759a51f147731de90784057d1d94a98.fit-760w.jpg
an hour ago
The special envoy, Ambassador Robert O’Brien, was seen at Stockholm District Court in the morning. A biographical statement on the State Department’s website says O’Brien “leads the U.S. government’s diplomatic efforts on overseas hostage-related matters.”


Trump Just Hired the Guy He Sent to Free A$AP Rocky as His New National Security Adviser (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539329-Trump-Just-Hired-the-Guy-He-Sent-to-Free-A-AP-Rocky-as-His-New-National-Security-Adviser&)

But he's not just famous for threatening Sweden for immediate release of Kim Kardshian sister's boyfriend and FLOTUS supported rapper Rocky A$AP (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537349-Do-you-support-boycott-of-Swedish-brands-launched-by-Rocky-A-AP-amp-Trump-supporters&p=6835300&viewfull=1#post6835300), new MAGA pick is also a strong supporter of our closest ally and only Jewish democracy in mideast:


Trump's new NSA pick is a strong supporter of Israeli settlements on Palestinian land and opponent of Obama Iran deal

In 2015 and 2016, O’Brien expressed strong opposition to the Iran nuclear deal, at one point comparing it to the 1938 Munich Agreement with Nazi Germany. He also wrote an article encouraging Senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, who ran against Trump in the 2016 Republican primary, to criticize Trump over his wish to improve relations with Russia’s Vladimir Putin. His views are typical to the Republican establishment foreign policy world view.

In 2017, he published an article about how Israel was being discriminated against in the United Nations. The article attacked the Obama administration for not vetoing a U.N. Security Council resolution against Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. He said that the resolution “has done nothing to advance the peace process”.

Origanalist
09-18-2019, 12:21 PM
Suspense is over and new guy seems to be no less of a supporter of our global allies in mideast than Henry Kissinger or Bolton:



https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_38/3015251/190918-robert-obrien-cs-927a_e759a51f147731de90784057d1d94a98.fit-760w.jpg
an hour ago
The special envoy, Ambassador Robert O’Brien, was seen at Stockholm District Court in the morning. A biographical statement on the State Department’s website says O’Brien “leads the U.S. government’s diplomatic efforts on overseas hostage-related matters.”


Trump Just Hired the Guy He Sent to Free A$AP Rocky as His New National Security Adviser (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539329-Trump-Just-Hired-the-Guy-He-Sent-to-Free-A-AP-Rocky-as-His-New-National-Security-Adviser&)

But he's not just famous for threatening Sweden for immediate release of Kim Kardshian sister's boyfriend and FLOTUS supported rapper Rocky A$AP (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537349-Do-you-support-boycott-of-Swedish-brands-launched-by-Rocky-A-AP-amp-Trump-supporters&p=6835300&viewfull=1#post6835300), new MAGA pick is also a strong supporter of our closest ally and only Jewish democracy in mideast:


Trump's new NSA pick is a strong supporter of Israeli settlements on Palestinian land and opponent of Obama Iran deal

In 2015 and 2016, O’Brien expressed strong opposition to the Iran nuclear deal, at one point comparing it to the 1938 Munich Agreement with Nazi Germany. He also wrote an article encouraging Senators Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, who ran against Trump in the 2016 Republican primary, to criticize Trump over his wish to improve relations with Russia’s Vladimir Putin. His views are typical to the Republican establishment foreign policy world view.

In 2017, he published an article about how Israel was being discriminated against in the United Nations. The article attacked the Obama administration for not vetoing a U.N. Security Council resolution against Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. He said that the resolution “has done nothing to advance the peace process”.

Moar swamp draining please.

TheCount
09-18-2019, 12:41 PM
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c6b632bf688f77d898d188bec2591198-c


Poor Trumpkins. Oh well, there's always next time.

enhanced_deficit
09-18-2019, 04:48 PM
Moar swamp draining please.

Actually 'drain the swamp' slogan has been dropped for 2020.





https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c6b632bf688f77d898d188bec2591198-c


Poor Trumpkins. Oh well, there's always next time.

There are encouraging signs that next time there would be even better picks.
Also, there would be no more nepotism if MAGA is re-elected in 2020.

devil21
09-18-2019, 05:49 PM
Mormon Zionist. AIPAC and the rest love him.

https://www.jns.org/jewish-pro-israel-community-react-to-national-security-pick/

Origanalist
09-18-2019, 07:26 PM
Actually 'drain the swamp' slogan has been dropped for 2020.






There are encouraging signs that next time there would be even better picks.
Also, there would be no more nepotism if MAGA is re-elected in 2020.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uMxHBfPQgtE/maxresdefault.jpg

devil21
09-19-2019, 12:21 PM
From JNS article above


O’Brien served under President George W. Bush as a U.S. alternate delegate to the United Nations in 2005, in which he emphasized America’s commitment towards solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Bolton was then the U.S. ambassador to the world body.

A bold move removing Bolton, for sure. The boldest moves by the best people.

tebowlives
09-19-2019, 12:33 PM
Trump was more hawkish than Obama regarding Libya. Trump wanted US troops on the ground while Obama refused this push by Trump. As for Syria, Trump has bombed both Syrian and Russian forces on the ground, funded the Al Qaeda linked white helmets and now starting a save zone with Turkey in the North. Despite the fork tongues rhetoric, his actions have been more hawkish than Obama.

What was Obama's gun ban? Regardless, Trump has one executive order gun ban in only 2 yrs and he about to enact more of em before he is done. So far, he has been worse than Obama.

With technology, troops on the ground doesn't necessarily equate to more war. Obamas drone program showed us that. Arming the Saudis or one side is an act of aggression imo.