Feds Say They've Filed Their First Bump Stock Ban Charges in Texas

[kcchiefs6465]

Federal authorities in Texas say they’ve made their first arrest related to the Trump administration’s 2018 “bump stock” ban.

According to a Thursday statement from the United States attorney for the Southern District of Texas, a 43-year-old Houston man has been indicted on four counts of firearms violation, including possession of a machine gun, which is what “bump stocks” are now considered under federal law.

The indictment alleges that Ajay Dhingra possessed a machine gun (the bump stock), made “two materially false statements in the acquisition of two firearms,” and also unlawfully possessed a firearm despite being adjudicated “as a mental defective” under federal law.

The suspect is expected to appear before a U.S. district judge next week. He currently faces up to 10 years in federal prison and a possible $250,000 fine, according to prosecutors.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), this is believed to be the first federal charges filed related to the ban, which was announced in late 2018 and took effect in March of this year.

The ban was largely in response to the 2017 shooting in Las Vegas, in which the shooter — whose motive remains a mystery to this day — used a slide fire or “bump stock” device.

In reality, slide fire devices do not actually turn semi-automatic firearms into automatics — which fire more than one round per trigger pull — but instead allow the gun to use recoil force to slide back and forth between the shooter’s shoulder and trigger finger, thereby increasing the rate of fire, typically at the cost of accuracy.

The Trump administration’s ban is a regulation that redefined “‘bump fire’ stocks, slide-fire devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics” as illegal machine guns under previous gun laws and told owners of the devices to either destroy or turn in their legally obtained hardware without even offering to compensate them.

“It’s sort of an American principle that the government doesn’t take your stuff without compensating you,” Second Amendment Caucus chair Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., told me in December.

“I’m no fan of bump stocks; I think they waste ammunition and cause you to shoot inaccurately,” Massie explained. However, “the precedent that this sets — allowing the executive branch to ban something that was legally acquired and then confiscate it and destroy it without compensation — is a horrible one.”
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[kcchiefs6465]

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[Swordsmyth]

@dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908) @Swordsmyth (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=65299)
This lunatic is being charged with a lot more than just possession of a bumpstock.
Hopefully this criminal charge will lead to the ban being ruled unconstitutional.

[Origanalist]

International Police Union Associations Endorse Campaign for Re-Election of President Trump


President Trump has done more for Law Enforcement in the past two and a half years than was accomplished in the eight years that preceded his election. He has even undone some of the harmful acts of his predecessor.

– He signed an order that once again provided law enforcement agencies with life-saving surplus military equipment, especially armored vehicles that have saved the lives of
countless police and civilians.
– He directed the Attorney General to develop a strategy that will aggressively prosecute criminals who attack law enforcement.
– He provided more than 100,000.00 dollars to help communities hire more law enforcement officers.
– He championed and signed the Mental Health and Wellness Act that improved police access to Mental Health Service.
– He has resumed capital punishment of Federal Prisoners sentenced to death after a nearly two decades pause.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/huge-international-police-union-associations-endorse-campaign-for-re-election-of-president-trump/

[kcchiefs6465]

This lunatic is being charged with a lot more than just possession of a bumpstock.
Hopefully this criminal charge will lead to the ban being ruled unconstitutional.
"Possession of a Machine Gun" was related to what?

[Swordsmyth]

"Possession of a Machine Gun" was related to what?

I said "more than", I didn't say he wasn't being charged under the ban, I said hopefully the criminal charge would lead to the ban being overturned.

[oyarde]

Sounds like the ATF is offering compensation . Ten year prison terms .

[kcchiefs6465]

I said "more than", I didn't say he wasn't being charged under the ban, I said hopefully the criminal charge would lead to the ban being overturned.
So in other words, Trump has turned millions of people into instant felons?

[Swordsmyth]

So in other words, Trump has turned millions of people into instant felons?
I have always loudly condemned the ban, it isn't new news.

[kcchiefs6465]

I have always loudly condemned the ban, it isn't new news.
Not to beat a dead horse but what you are saying is that Trump, himself, against all the wishful and delirious thinking of his supporters that he was grandstanding and nothing would amount from this, turned millions of people into instant felons, overnight.

And again, not to beat a dead horse, he simultaneously ignited the shitstorm of anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric going on right now.

[Anti Federalist]

“I’m no fan of bump stocks; I think they waste ammunition and cause you to shoot inaccurately,” Massie explained. However, “the precedent that this sets — allowing the executive branch to ban something that was legally acquired and then confiscate it and destroy it without compensation — is a horrible one.”

[jkr]

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[Danke]

7064

[CCTelander]

7064


They'd have to repeal part of the Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 as well.

[Occam's Banana]

7064

And then call the NRA and tell them to support repealing the National Firearms Act.

Oh, wait ...

"The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. [...] NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." -- American Rifleman, March 1968

(The American Rifleman (https://www.americanrifleman.org/) is the "Official Journal of the NRA.")

[CCTelander]

So in other words, Trump has turned millions of people into instant felons?


Have no fear. I have it on good authority that ATF will continue to display the very highest levels of honesty and professionalism in enforcing this new regulation. That they'll temper their actions with compassion and common sense and only seek to charge those who are actually criminals with malicious intent when they apply this... snigger, snigger ROTFL!!!

Damnit man, I can't even type that bullshit with a straight face.

[Dr.3D]

So go the pre-crime laws. (We need to make that illegal, because somebody might get hurt.)

[Danke]

And then call the NRA and tell them to support repealing the National Firearms Act.

Oh, wait ...

"The NRA supported The National Firearms Act of 1934 which taxes and requires registration of such firearms as machine guns, sawed-off rifles and sawed-off shotguns. [...] NRA support of Federal gun legislation did not stop with the earlier Dodd bills. It currently backs several Senate and House bills which, through amendment, would put new teeth into the National and Federal Firearms Acts." -- American Rifleman, March 1968

(The American Rifleman (https://www.americanrifleman.org/) is the "Official Journal of the NRA.")


7067

[CCTelander]

I have always loudly condemned the ban, it isn't new news.


So it's "old news"? Well:

American imperialism and foreign intervention is "old news" too. They've been busy with that for well over a century now.

The Federal Reserve and its depredations likewise are "old news." Again, more than a century.

Public welfare as we know it is also "old news" well over half a century now and going strong.

In spite of their being "old news" we all, including you Trump fans, continue to oppose and discuss all of these and many others. And yet here Trump VERY RECENTLY commits a massive, flagrant violation of our rights, his oath of office and the constitution many of you Trump fans claim to revere and your response is merely "I oppose this but it's old news."?

I'm sorry but I simply can't see that as responsive to kcchiefs' comment in any other way but as an attempt to dismiss it as trivial and unworthy of attention in order to provide cover for Trump. And it simply dismisses as unimportant the millions of new potential victims of ATF abuses created by Trump in his idiocy. Please think about that.

[mrsat_98]

also unlawfully possessed a firearm despite being adjudicated “as a mental defective” under federal law.

This is a very important issue to watch.

[kcchiefs6465]

also unlawfully possessed a firearm despite being adjudicated “as a mental defective” under federal law.

This is a very important issue to watch.
Related:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539020-White-House-weighs-controversial-plan-on-mental-illness-and-mass-shootings

Not to mention DSM5 has classified practically everything as a mental disorder.

[Dr.3D]

Related:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539020-White-House-weighs-controversial-plan-on-mental-illness-and-mass-shootings

Not to mention DSM5 has classified practically everything as a mental disorder.
Then again, homosexuality used to be classified as a mental disorder and now the DSM5 says it isn't. Seems to change which ever way the political wind blows.

[kcchiefs6465]

Then again, homosexuality used to be classified as a mental disorder and now the DSM5 says it isn't. Seems to change which ever way the political wind blows.
Thinking thoughts like that is indicative of a paranoid disorder.

[Swordsmyth]

So it's "old news"? Well:

American imperialism and foreign intervention is "old news" too. They've been busy with that for well over a century now.

The Federal Reserve and its depredations likewise are "old news." Again, more than a century.

Public welfare as we know it is also "old news" well over half a century now and going strong.

In spite of their being "old news" we all, including you Trump fans, continue to oppose and discuss all of these and many others. And yet here Trump VERY RECENTLY commits a massive, flagrant violation of our rights, his oath of office and the constitution many of you Trump fans claim to revere and your response is merely "I oppose this but it's old news."?

I'm sorry but I simply can't see that as responsive to kcchiefs' comment in any other way but as an attempt to dismiss it as trivial and unworthy of attention in order to provide cover for Trump. And it simply dismisses as unimportant the millions of new potential victims of ATF abuses created by Trump in his idiocy. Please think about that.

I didn't say it was "old news", I said it wasn't new.
I don't have to jump through hoops or recite a condemnation of something I oppose every time somebody demands one.

I oppose the ban, I have condemned it in strong terms, I said nothing to defend it and I even repeated that I condemn it.

[kcchiefs6465]

I didn't say it was "old news", I said it wasn't new.
I don't have to jump through hoops or recite a condemnation of something I oppose every time somebody demands one.

I oppose the ban, I have condemned it in strong terms, I said nothing to defend it and I even repeated that I condemn it.
I know this.

I suppose why I continue to tag you with regards to this issue is that for me, if I were a Trump supporter to begin with, I would have thrown him to the wolves over this.

It seems that you, and every Trump supporter I talk to in the real world, semi-casually dismiss this as a side issue. Or say it is a stupid accessory.

It isn't some insignificant mandate.

It has real consequences and is as significant a blow against the 2nd Amendment as District of Columbia v. Heller was a step in the right direction.