Donald Trump calls Jews who vote Democrat 'disloyal'

[Snowball]

Jewish leaders outraged by Trump saying Jews disloyal if they vote Democratic

https://fox2now.com/2019/08/20/jewish-leaders-outraged-by-trump-saying-jews-disloyal-if-they-vote-for-democrats/


He wants Greenland. He wants all your Jews. He wants another term ....

[Sammy]

The left says the same thing about Blacks,Hispanic's,Asians & Muslims who are conservative or Libertarian!

[specsaregood]

good for him? is he wrong somehow?

[Anti Globalist]

The Democrats say the same thing when it comes to minorities.

[Superfluous Man]

good for him? is he wrong somehow?

In what way is he right?

[specsaregood]

In what way is he right?

hell if I know. I think its just a stupid throw away comment. At the same time, the I do live in area with alots of American jews and they are always making a big deal out of their young ones signing up and doing time with the Israeli military. These same people vote democrat as a block.

[timosman]

In what way is he right?

Please talk to your rabbi.

[dannno]

In what way is he right?

You think Jews who vote socialist and for gun control are NOT disloyal to this country, at some level??

Even if they are well-meaning, they are still wrong and doing harm.

[Superfluous Man]

You think Jews who vote socialist and for gun control are NOT disloyal to this country, at some level??

Even if they are well-meaning, they are still wrong and doing harm.

Was he saying they were disloyal to this country? Or disloyal to Judaism?

I thought he was saying the latter.

It goes without saying that anyone who votes for either Republicans or Democrats is disloyal to this country.

[Ender]

Was he saying they were disloyal to this country? Or disloyal to Judaism?

I thought he was saying the latter.

It goes without saying that anyone who votes for either Republicans or Democrats are disloyal to this country.

Pretty much.

[Todd]

The left says the same thing about Blacks,Hispanic's,Asians & Muslims who are conservative or Libertarian!

Identity politics is a double edged sword isnt it

[Zippyjuan]

All Hail the King of Israel! The Second Coming of God!

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[r3volution 3.0]

Was he saying they were disloyal to this country? Or disloyal to Judaism?

I thought he was saying the latter.

It goes without saying that anyone who votes for either Republicans or Democrats is disloyal to this country.

Likewise

I guess there's an asterisk after America First.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538267-Jewish-groups-condemn-Trump-s-disloyalty-remark

[enhanced_deficit]

While I don't condone such wording, but why would anyone support Dems knowing their big debt deficit expanding spending binges?





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"As he (Trump) launched his campaign, the conservative National Review reported (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420093/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-double-agent-for-left) that he was a registered Democrat from 2001 to 2009 and praised a Canadian-style universal health care system. Party affiliation in the United States is usually changed by ticking a box while registering to vote and doesn't imply any financial contribution. However Trump has also shown a willingness to contribute considerable sums to Democratic causes (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420435/donald-trump-hasnt-voted-last-six-presidential-primaries-jillian-kay-melchior) - including Hillary Clinton's campaign for Senate in 2002."


Trump to host fundraiser for Booker (https://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/ivanka-trump-fundraiser-cory-booker-094288)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/23/article-2429926-18340D7100000578-401_634x403.jpg

Anti-semitism against Trump is on the rise (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535475)


It's actually very simple. Instead of running as a Democrat, he is running GOP, so he must attack the Democrats. Some of his kids didn't get the memo though.

https://i.imgur.com/UQXQE0k.jpg


People have ability to change, democrats can become conservative Republicans sometimes.
Don't understand why some conservative purists keep calling them Democrats even now.[/QUOTE]

Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&)

https://i1.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/President-elect_Donald_J._Trump_and_House_Minority_Leader_Na ncy_Pelosi_January_20_2017-1.jpg?fit=3468%2C2447&ssl=1






Was Donald Trump a Democrat? (https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-trump-a-democrat-3367571)

It's true: Donald Trump was a Democrat.

Long before the ultrawealthy real-estate magnate became President of the United States after running on the Republican Party ticket, he belonged to the party of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Lyndon Johnson. And that led to some conservatives suspecting Trump of acting on behalf of the Democrats, and in particular, the Clintons, to sabotage the GOP.
The Saturday Night Live comedian Seth Myers once quipped: “Donald Trump often talks about running as a Republican, which is surprising. I just assumed he was...
“He was a Democrat longer than he was a Republican. He's given more money to Democrats than he has to Republicans," Bush said. (Among the politicians Trump has given money to is former Secretary of State and U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton.)
It probably didn't help Trump's case among conservative voters that he's spoken very highly of some of Democrats who are typically vilified by conservatives including Harry Reid, Oprah Winfrey, Hillary Clinton, and even Nancy Pelosi.


Democrat liberal socialist Sanders supporters vow to support Trump if Bernie isn’t the nominee (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533827-Sanders-supporters-vow-to-support-Trump-if-Bernie-isn%92t-the-nominee&p=6799725&viewfull=1#post6799725)

[Superfluous Man]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538267-Jewish-groups-condemn-Trump-s-disloyalty-remark

Thanks, in that article where it says, "Trump has previously conflated Jewish Americans with Israelis. In April, speaking to the Republican Jewish Coalition, Trump called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 'your prime minister'," that definitely supports the interpretation that he was not talking about loyalty to the USA.

The entire context of the remark didn't at all look like he was talking about loyalty to the USA anyway. I'm not sure how anyone got that interpretation out of it.

[Snowball]

In his tweet he said STUPID or DISLOYAL to Israel.

In his interview he said DISLOYAL TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE and to ISRAEL.

These are direct quotes. The man has no concept of the idea that a Jew might not support the policies of Israel
or his own policies or think only Republican/Likud policies are best for the US, the world, or Israel.

[specsaregood]

Thanks, in that article where it says, "Trump has previously conflated Jewish Americans with Israelis. In April, speaking to the Republican Jewish Coalition, Trump called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu 'your prime minister'," that definitely supports the interpretation that he was not talking about loyalty to the USA.

The entire context of the remark didn't at all look like he was talking about loyalty to the USA anyway. I'm not sure how anyone got that interpretation out of it.

How many people at that Republican Jewish Coalition have dual citizenship or are entitled to claim it if they want it?

[Superfluous Man]

How many people at that Republican Jewish Coalition have dual citizenship or are entitled to claim it if they want it?

They may well all be entitled to claim it if they want it. But there's a big difference between that and actually having it.

[Superfluous Man]

In his tweet he said STUPID or DISLOYAL to Israel.

In his interview he said DISLOYAL TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE and to ISRAEL.

These are direct quotes. The man has no concept of the idea that a Jew might not support the policies of Israel
or his own policies or think they are best for the US, the world, or even for Israel.

Thank you. That settles it.

Dannno was high again when he thought he knew enough to comment on this.

[specsaregood]

They may well all be entitled to claim it if they want it. But there's a big difference between that and actually having it.

I would bet that a LOT, maybe even majority in attendance actually did have it. In which case, he would be their prime minister, wouldn't he?

[Superfluous Man]

I would bet that a LOT, maybe even majority in attendance actually did have it. In which case, he would be their prime minister, wouldn't he?

For that subset, yes. My guess is that it's a small minority of the audience.

[r3volution 3.0]

On an OT note, they're both pretty terrifying to look at up close, aren't they?

https://i1.wp.com/truepundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/President-elect_Donald_J._Trump_and_House_Minority_Leader_Na ncy_Pelosi_January_20_2017-1.jpg?fit=3468%2C2447&ssl=1

They look like they're wearing plastic masks of themselves.

https://i.imgur.com/jcGt8wR.gif

[dannno]

Thank you. That settles it.

Dannno was high again when he thought he knew enough to comment on this.

Well I guess if the goal of the Jewish religion is to destroy the US, then they aren't being disloyal by voting Democrat. But I don't think that is the goal of the Jewish religion.

[Superfluous Man]

Well I guess if the goal of the Jewish religion is to destroy the US, then they aren't being disloyal by voting Democrat. But I don't think that is the goal of the Jewish religion.

Do you think it does make them disloyal to the Jewish religion? If so, in what way?

[dannno]

Do you think it does make them disloyal to the Jewish religion? If so, in what way?

Supporting the destruction of a country would seem to me to be against their beliefs, but I could be wrong.

[Superfluous Man]

Supporting the destruction of a country would seem to me to be against their beliefs, but I could be wrong.

If you could cite your source for whatever beliefs you have in mind, I'd appreciate it.

[dannno]

If you could cite your source for whatever beliefs you have in mind, I'd appreciate it.

What?

[Superfluous Man]

What?

I mean, at this point you're just pulling stuff out of your butt, so it's kind of a moot point. But if you actually have anything, go ahead and share it.

[dannno]

I mean, at this point you're just pulling stuff out of your butt, so it's kind of a moot point. But if you actually have anything, go ahead and share it.

What am I looking for again?

[Superfluous Man]

What am I looking for again?

Something about how Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Judaism.

But if even you don't know what you were trying to say, that says something.

[dannno]

Something about how Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Judaism.

But if even you don't know what you were trying to say, that says something.

This is what I said:


Supporting the destruction of a country would seem to me to be against their beliefs, but I could be wrong.

Is that confusing to you?

[Superfluous Man]

This is what I said:



Is that confusing to you?

No, was there something about my response to your saying that in post #27 that made it look like I was confused by what you said?

I just wonder if you have any basis for saying it, or if you're just making up what you think their beliefs are. So do you?

[Superfluous Man]

If you could cite your source for whatever beliefs you have in mind, I'd appreciate it.


I mean, at this point you're just pulling stuff out of your butt, so it's kind of a moot point. But if you actually have anything, go ahead and share it.



I just wonder if you have any basis for saying it, or if you're just making up what you think their beliefs are. So do you?

Anything?

[dannno]

what you think their beliefs are.


I think the statement I made makes it pretty clear I don't know what their beliefs are. I would just imagine that a religion like Judaism would be opposed to going and destroying a country by implementing totalitarian socialist policies. I could be wrong. What do you think?

[Superfluous Man]

I think the statement I made makes it pretty clear I don't know what their beliefs are. I would just imagine that a religion like Judaism would be opposed to going and destroying a country by implementing totalitarian socialist policies. I could be wrong.

Got it. So you were just saying something you imagined.

Sometimes in cases like that, when you have no idea what you're talking about, it's better just to withhold your opinion.


What do you think?

I have tried to think of some way that voting for Democrats might indicate disloyalty to Judaism in some way and can't come up with anything.

I think it's a stupid claim.

In Trump's case, the way it appears is that he assumes that loyalty to Judaism or the Jewish people must be the same as loyalty to the modern nation-state of Israel, which he also assumes requires loyalty to his own Israel-first foreign policy. That is no less stupid.

[oyarde]

Are there any loyal jews here ?

[oyarde]

Dems are loyal to a few things . Taxes for hoaxes ( global bullcrap ) , killing babies , any and all tax provided welfare and taking guns . That seems about it . Makes them about as unamerican as possible .