Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: 'I Have a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'

[Brian4Liberty]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: 'I Have a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints' (https://reason.com/2019/08/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-i-have-a-lot-of-common-ground-with-many-libertarian-viewpoints/)
The democratic socialist congresswoman also criticized Republican hypocrisy.
By Billy Binion - 8.8.2019


...in an Instagram live stream last week, the democratic socialist congresswoman told viewers that she does find some commonality with libertarians.

"I actually think I have a lot of common ground with many libertarian viewpoints in [the Republican] party," Ocasio-Cortez said, emphasizing her stances on immigration, the military, and privacy rights. Her admission comes not long after she and Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) publicly agreed on the need to prohibit former congresspeople from becoming lobbyists, as well as to make hormonal birth control available over the counter.

"True libertarians, which many happen to be in the Republican Party, true libertarian viewpoints are pro-immigration," she explained on Instagram. Advocates of smaller government do indeed acknowledge that immigrants help the economy, and many dismiss the notion that the federal government is capable of determining optimal migration levels.

Ocasio-Cortez also told Instagram viewers that her "anti-interventionist" and "anti-war" positioning fits in line with a libertarian mindset. "From the perspective of small government, there are Republicans who are very consistently anti-war and anti-military spending," she said.
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More: https://reason.com/2019/08/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-i-have-a-lot-of-common-ground-with-many-libertarian-viewpoints/

[Brian4Liberty]

"anti-interventionist" and "anti-war" positioning fits in line with a libertarian mindset

I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?

[Anti Federalist]

LOL

Cortez for President on the LP ticket 2028

Makes as much sense as Bob Barr or Bill Weld.

[timosman]

I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?

She's rocking the boat. :tears:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1160184184947781632

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[Swordsmyth]

The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

All other issues don't really matter anyway.:rolleyes:

[tfurrh]

The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

All other issues don't really matter anyway.:rolleyes:

You get all that from the party platform?

[Anti Globalist]

She needs to kindly fuck off. Shes not a libertarian by any stretch of the imagination.

[juleswin]

You get all that from the party platform?

SS would take any opportunity he gets to insult the LP. No way he would pass up on this story, its way too easy for him.

[timosman]

SS would take any opportunity he gets to insult the LP. No way he would pass up on this story, its way too easy for him.

LP deserves to be mocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

[Swordsmyth]

SS would take any opportunity he gets to insult the LP. No way he would pass up on this story, its way too easy for him.

Sure, now that they have sold out completely.

[otherone]

The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

All other issues don't really matter anyway.:rolleyes:

LOL (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?225-Individual-Rights-Violations-Case-Studies)

[Swordsmyth]

LOL (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?225-Individual-Rights-Violations-Case-Studies)
There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.

[kahless]

Give it time and she will have her own category in the Liberty Candidates section of this forum just like Justin Cuck Amash.

[juleswin]

Sure, now that they have sold out completely.

Maybe so, one thing I know is that I can't seem to remember a time when you weren't bitching about the LP.

[juleswin]

"True libertarians, which many happen to be in the Republican Party, true libertarian viewpoints are pro-immigration," she explained on Instagram. Advocates of smaller government do indeed acknowledge that immigrants help the economy, and many dismiss the notion that the federal government is capable of determining optimal migration levels.

Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?

[Swordsmyth]

Maybe so, one thing I know is that I can't seem to remember a time when you weren't bitching about the LP.
They have had serious problems since before I came to this site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYx5LILl34

[shakey1]

:tears:

[r3volution 3.0]

She's a bolshevik and...

...will therefore likely do well with the American electorate.

[jkr]

Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?
Qft

[tfurrh]

Everyone has 'a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'
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...... except Swordsmyth :kiss:

[Swordsmyth]

Everyone has 'a Lot of Common Ground With Many Libertarian Viewpoints'
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...... except Swordsmyth :kiss:
:rolleyes:

[Brian4Liberty]

I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?

And it appears that AOC voted for the bloated MIC approved budget. So libertarian.


The vote split the four Democrats now known as the “Squad,” with Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) voting against the bill, and Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) voting “yes.”

Ocasio-Cortez, visibly conflicted on the House floor, was one of the last House members to cast her vote after huddling with Pressley and Tlaib.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/25/house-gop-budget-vote-1433848

[nikcers]

This is like when Jeb Bush said he had libertarian blood. She is probably less libertarian than Jeb though. Sometimes progressive democrats can work together with libertarians on things like individual liberties and privacy though, Ron Paul and Rand Paul have done that. Rand has worked with Cory Booker on criminal Justice reform and that guy is just as crazy and neoliberal as AOC.

[Origanalist]

There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSkWsSXcAIKLSZ.jpg

The Founding Fathers: Smugglers, Tax Evaders, and Traitors
https://mises.org/library/founding-fathers-smugglers-tax-evaders-and-traitors

[Brian4Liberty]

LOL

Cortez for President on the LP ticket 2028

Makes as much sense as Bob Barr or Bill Weld.

Sarwark, the Chair of the Libertarian Party, retweeted this story. Your suggestion is probably being considered.

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https://www.twitter.com/reason/status/1159557926060564480

[Swordsmyth]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSkWsSXcAIKLSZ.jpg

The Founding Fathers: Smugglers, Tax Evaders, and Traitors
https://mises.org/library/founding-fathers-smugglers-tax-evaders-and-traitors
But they weren't against all law enforcement in principle.

[Swordsmyth]

Sarwark, the Chair of the Libertarian Party, retweeted this story. Your suggestion is probably being considered.

1159557926060564480
https://www.twitter.com/reason/status/1159557926060564480
Called it:


The LP will welcome her with open arms, they both want to flood the country with communists, they both hate law enforcement for the sake of it, they both want abortion to be free and easy and they both want legalized weed.

The only sticking point is that the LP may be going interventionist.

All other issues don't really matter anyway.:rolleyes:

[Origanalist]

But they weren't against all law enforcement in principle.

What law enforcement were they in favor of, before they won?

[Swordsmyth]

What law enforcement were they in favor of, before they won?
I imagine they were in favor of local law enforcement that arrested murderers etc.
And what they were in favor of after they won is what matters.

[Origanalist]

I imagine they were in favor of local law enforcement that arrested murderers etc.
And what they were in favor of after they won is what matters.

"You imagine" a lot of stuff. Far too much.

And once they had the ring they weren't any better than the redcoats.

[Swordsmyth]

"You imagine" a lot of stuff. Far too much.
Show me an example of them tarring and feathering a local sheriff and we can talk.
With few exceptions they all were members of and/or supported their colonial governments.


And once they had the ring they weren't any better than the redcoats.
That's debatable and I wouldn't take your side, they were definitely not perfect and I am quite familiar with the classic examples but the present state of the UK vs. America is telling.

[Origanalist]

Show me an example of them tarring and feathering a local sheriff and we can talk.
With few exceptions they all were members of and/or supported their colonial governments.


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They killed them, what are you talking about? There was a war. Yes, I'm aware many were prominent subjects of the crown.

[Swordsmyth]

They killed them, what are you talking about? There was a war. Yes, I'm aware many were prominent subjects of the crown.
What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about local law enforcement NOT the Redcoats, the colonial governments were part and parcel of the revolution and unless some of their local sheriffs or whatever they called them were Tories they didn't go around killing them.

[enhanced_deficit]

I must have missed this from AOC. I didn’t recall her being outspoken against interventionism. Did she vote against the bloated budget that included massive military spending?

She did make this controversial call. However GOP-Adelson/MAGA wing's top leadership did not ask her to resign for 'anti-semitism' as it did after Ilhan accused AIPAC lobby of bribing US politicians/spoke against Iran war drums.

AOC Says Cut US Aid to Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533661-AOC-Says-Cut-US-Aid-to-Israel&)

[Origanalist]

What are YOU talking about? I'm talking about local law enforcement NOT the Redcoats, the colonial governments were part and parcel of the revolution and unless some of their local sheriffs or whatever they called them were Tories they didn't go around killing them.

So, local law enforcement prior to the declaration were not under the edict of the king? Sides were chosen, the revolutionaries went to war with the factions that supported the king. And yes, they killed each other.

[Swordsmyth]

So, local law enforcement prior to the declaration were not under the edict of the king?
So were the colonial governments that many of the founding fathers were members of, they even petitioned the king to overrule Parliament before they rebelled.


Sides were chosen, the revolutionaries went to war with the factions that supported the king. And yes, they killed each other.
But most local law enforcement probably sided with their colonial governments and supported the rebellion, there was no war on law enforcement, only on Tories and Redcoats, some law enforcement may have been Tories but if they were killed it was for being Tories not for being law enforcement.

[Origanalist]

But most local law enforcement probably sided with their colonial governments and supported the rebellion, there was no war on law enforcement, only on Tories and Redcoats, some law enforcement may have been Tories but if they were killed it was for being Tories not for being law enforcement.

"probably"

(snort)

No, at that point law enforcement was the redcoats and those that sided with them. Why would you think that people who made their living enforcing laws would side with rebellion?

[Swordsmyth]

"probably"

(snort)
Show me ANY evidence of a war on law enforcement and we can talk.
YOU are just making things up to suit your anarchist fantasies.


No, at that point law enforcement was the redcoats and those that sided with them.
No, the British were the Redcoats and those that sided with them were Tories.


Why would you think that people who made their living enforcing laws would side with rebellion?
Because colonists in all walks of life sided with their local colonial governments against the British and because they had no less reason to than the officers and men of the colonial militias or the members of the colonial governments.

[Origanalist]

Show me ANY evidence of a war on law enforcement and we can talk.
YOU are just making things up to suit your anarchist fantasies..


No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dipshit self. The redcoats were the the law enforcers of colonial America. The fact that you refuse to accept that doesn't make it not a fact.

[Swordsmyth]

No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dip$#@! self. The redcoats were the the law enforcers of colonial America. The fact that you refuse to accept that doesn't make it not a fact.
They were MILITARY, there were other local law enforcement, nightwatchmen, bailiffs, constables, sheriffs, and whatever else they called them back then in the different colonies.
The colonies also had their own militias which could be used for law enforcement just like the Redcoats but the founders didn't declare war on them either, they were part of the Revolutionary forces.

[Danke]

No, I'm not. You're just being your usual dipshit self.


I like it. Every time someone is losing an argument with Swordsmyth, they revert to name calling.

[tod evans]

There are indeed many problems with current law enforcement practices but the LP is full of anarchists and contrarians who hate the very idea of police or sheriffs etc. because their religion is rebellion.

Not wanting some double-digiter lording over you and yours with complete immunity falls far short of "because their religion is rebellion."

Try again.

[Origanalist]

I like it. Every time someone is losing an argument with Swordsmyth, they revert to name calling.

Oh, isn't that cute. Another rpf bromance.

[Danke]

Oh, isn't that cute. Another rpf bromance.

And of course, insults.

[Origanalist]

And of course, insults.

https://tolucantimes.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/T29-25-Letters.jpg

You two make a good pair.

[invisible]

This simply underscores that our votes ARE important and numerous enough to tip elections, as was demonstrated in the 2012 general election polling that showed "undecided" voters as overwhelmingly supporting Ron Paul. Which is why both this admitted socialist is attempting to court them, and why a shyll army has been sent to flood this place with wall to wall trump propaganda. Two sides of the same coin, big government authoritarian statists trying to convince us to vote for politicians that continue to do nothing but destroy more of our freedom.

[oyarde]

You get all that from the party platform?

That comes from the plant that is now running the party .

[oyarde]

Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship. I wonder if she would still be OK with that package?

Ya , I do not think you will ever get a single , nationally elected Dem to sign on with ending welfare .

[PAF]

Libertarians who support free movement of people also support ending the welfare state and birthright citizenship.

:up:

[oyarde]

She's a bolshevik and...

...will therefore likely do well with the American electorate.

Certainly has not seemed to hurt her in ny.

[nikcers]

Ya , I do not think you will ever get a single , nationally elected Dem to sign on with ending welfare .

:up: