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Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 05:42 PM
Keep pushing, asshole.

You haven't seen mayhem yet.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/campusreform/13533/reza.JPG

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13533

juleswin
08-06-2019, 05:51 PM
Keep pushing, $#@!.

You haven't seen mayhem yet.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/campusreform/13533/reza.JPG

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13533

That is not what he said, he is saying white supremacist terror must be eradicated not that his supporter must be eradicated. The same way you can eradicate the KKK without killing white Klans people, you can do the same for white supremacists. Not saying that I agree with anything this guy is saying just pointing out that you are misrepresenting what he said.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 05:54 PM
That is not what he said, he is saying white supremacist terror must be eradicated not that his supporter must be eradicated. The same way you can eradicate the KKK without killing white Klans people, you can do the same for white supremacists. Not saying that I agree with anything this guy is saying just pointing out that you are misrepresenting what he said.

Splitting hair bullshit.

This guy meant exactly what he said.

His supporters are white terrorists and they are a scourge to be ERADICATED.

And he teaches kids, every day.

brushfire
08-06-2019, 06:02 PM
"By definition" -- A racist is someone who disagrees with a democrat. <- He means that definition, right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nv1dZCHtm8


I have to laugh at all those morons - its not like trump has set the bar that high. "Racist" is all they got I guess.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 06:03 PM
And never forget, those of you, who, like me are lukewarm toward the Drunken Monkey, at best and voted for Ron Paul:

Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

There's a fucking fight coming and it's coming soon.

Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/02/where-did-donald-trump-get-his-racialized-rhetoric-from-libertarians/

The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

Mainstream libertarians have been agonizing over this legacy among themselves for some time, hoping that either the elder or younger Paul would definitively denounce the movement’s racialist past, but no such speech has ever come. Instead, the paleolibertarian strategy concocted decades ago as a way to push for minimal government threatens to replace right-wing libertarianism with white nationalism.

And on and on and on...

phill4paul
08-06-2019, 06:14 PM
Splitting hair bullshit.

This guy meant exactly what he said.

His supporters are white terrorists and they are a scourge to be ERADICATED.

And he teaches kids, every day.

Oh yeah. They want a fight. They WANT bloodshed.

Rep. Juan Castro on twitter just outed Trump donors and the names of their employers. If this isn't political terrorism I can't think of what might be.


Sad to see so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump — the owner of ⁦@BillMillerBarBQ⁩, owner of the ⁦@HistoricPearl, realtor Phyllis Browning, etc⁩.

Their contributions are fueling a campaign of hate that labels Hispanic immigrants as ‘invaders.’ pic.twitter.com/YT85IBF19u

— Joaquin Castro (@Castro4Congress) August 6, 2019

“Sad to see so so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump,” the congressman wrote, proceeding to name local businesses whose owners gave the maximum to Trump’s campaign. Eleven of the 44 donors shown in Rep. Castro’s post listed their employment as “retired.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/06/joaquin-castro-names-trump-donors/?fbclid=IwAR2htn_hggRWXY_7wyKsxNr7GR5YzWLSujGoGuHt ZKN8yGEh2EJUuiVDLtg

juleswin
08-06-2019, 06:23 PM
And never forget, those of you, who, like me are lukewarm toward the Drunken Monkey, at best and voted for Ron Paul:

Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

There's a $#@!ing fight coming and it's coming soon.

Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/02/where-did-donald-trump-get-his-racialized-rhetoric-from-libertarians/

The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

Mainstream libertarians have been agonizing over this legacy among themselves for some time, hoping that either the elder or younger Paul would definitively denounce the movement’s racialist past, but no such speech has ever come. Instead, the paleolibertarian strategy concocted decades ago as a way to push for minimal government threatens to replace right-wing libertarianism with white nationalism.

And on and on and on...

Its not surprising that the MSM would love to use Trump tomfoolery to smear Ron Paul. We on this site tolerated for years people who went around claiming Trump would bring about/supported Ron Paul dream for America. Some of us complained but the now majority on this site joined along or said nothing, now you complain when the MSM does the same thing. The truth has always been that Trump was against Ron Paul and his agenda, he threatened to run for president if Ron Paul won the nomination, he financed people like Pelosi, Shummer and Clinton while Ron Paul fought those guys. He pays lip service to ending illegal immigration while he destabilizes regions to produce migrants, ending the FED, ending birth right citizenship, non interventionism etc but in reality supporter the worst of the globalists and neocon agenda.

I somewhat agree with the professor, Trump and his supporters are a scourge but I will add the supporters of Obama, Bush, Clinton etc along with the list. Their agenda and ideology needs to be eradicated asap.

There is a guy on youtube called Adam Green who has been calling out the Trump deception. I knew this before I started watching him but if you watch him, you would understand the scam that he is running.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5xWQpqufiE

specsaregood
08-06-2019, 06:23 PM
Rep. Juan Castro on twitter just outed Trump donors and the names of their employers. If this isn't political terrorism I can't think of what might be.


Its not much of an "outed" since that is all public record. He is just taking public information and handfeeding it to the mouthbreathers.

Brian4Liberty
08-06-2019, 06:25 PM
And never forget, those of you, who, like me are lukewarm toward the Drunken Monkey, at best and voted for Ron Paul:

Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

There's a fucking fight coming and it's coming soon.

Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/02/where-did-donald-trump-get-his-racialized-rhetoric-from-libertarians/

The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

Mainstream libertarians have been agonizing over this legacy among themselves for some time, hoping that either the elder or younger Paul would definitively denounce the movement’s racialist past, but no such speech has ever come. Instead, the paleolibertarian strategy concocted decades ago as a way to push for minimal government threatens to replace right-wing libertarianism with white nationalism.

And on and on and on...

More lies from the Washington Neocon Post. But there is a seed of truth:


Libertarianism, he argued, was nothing more than a restatement of the beliefs of the “Old Right,” which resolutely opposed the New Deal and any sort of foreign intervention in the early 20th century.

The number one priority of neocons and Trotskyites is intervention. This is why they disagree with libertarians. The smear of racism is a misdirection. It’s a trick. It’s a lie.

Want proof? They despise Tulsi Gabbard just as much as they ever disliked a Paul or a Trump. Is Gabbard a racist? They would use that smear if they could get away with it, and they may use it yet! Their propaganda has gone far beyond absurd, so there is almost no falsehood that they wouldn’t put out there with a straight face.

They don’t like, and are sabotaging Gabbard because she professes to oppose foreign interventionism. That is the real issue. But if anything, the neoconservatives are adept at misdirection, smears and lies. So that truth will always be obscured. Instead, they will smear someone as a racist or puppet of certain foreign powers, as they have smeared Gabbard.

CoastieInColorado
08-06-2019, 06:26 PM
And never forget, those of you, who, like me are lukewarm toward the Drunken Monkey, at best and voted for Ron Paul:

Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

There's a fucking fight coming and it's coming soon.

Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/02/where-did-donald-trump-get-his-racialized-rhetoric-from-libertarians/

The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

Mainstream libertarians have been agonizing over this legacy among themselves for some time, hoping that either the elder or younger Paul would definitively denounce the movement’s racialist past, but no such speech has ever come. Instead, the paleolibertarian strategy concocted decades ago as a way to push for minimal government threatens to replace right-wing libertarianism with white nationalism.

And on and on and on...

And people look at me funny when I tell them none of this surprises me ,because it started in 2007....

phill4paul
08-06-2019, 06:30 PM
Its not much of an "outed" since that is all public record. He is just taking public information and handfeeding it to the mouthbreathers.

Exactly.

Brian4Liberty
08-06-2019, 06:32 PM
That is not what he said, he is saying white supremacist terror must be eradicated not that his supporter must be eradicated. The same way you can eradicate the KKK without killing white Klans people, you can do the same for white supremacists. Not saying that I agree with anything this guy is saying just pointing out that you are misrepresenting what he said.

That would be the absolutely most generous reading of that tweet possible. And you have twisted it too far from what was meant by any unbiased reading of that tweet.

Edit: “ALL OF THEM”? Seriously? Sorry that eliminates any doubt as to what he was saying.


Splitting hair bullshit.

This guy meant exactly what he said.

His supporters are white terrorists and they are a scourge to be ERADICATED.

And he teaches kids, every day.

That is most likely what he was inferring, but no doubt he was prepared to weasel out of that by saying he was only talking about the KKK, which is nonsense.

Anti Globalist
08-06-2019, 06:33 PM
So hes calling for genocide.

CoastieInColorado
08-06-2019, 06:38 PM
Oh yeah. They want a fight. They WANT bloodshed.

Rep. Juan Castro on twitter just outed Trump donors and the names of their employers. If this isn't political terrorism I can't think of what might be.



“Sad to see so so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump,” the congressman wrote, proceeding to name local businesses whose owners gave the maximum to Trump’s campaign. Eleven of the 44 donors shown in Rep. Castro’s post listed their employment as “retired.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/06/joaquin-castro-names-trump-donors/?fbclid=IwAR2htn_hggRWXY_7wyKsxNr7GR5YzWLSujGoGuHt ZKN8yGEh2EJUuiVDLtg

I want someone to ask him, on camera and live, what exactly is the intent behind him publishing those names like that, and if he intends to take full responsibility for any attacks that occur on any of those people, as his comment of it being "sad to see" and that "their contributions are fueling a campaign of hate...", most certainly seems to imply that supporting the President = you're doing something wrong.

And we all know wrongdoers must be punished...

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 06:44 PM
There is a guy on youtube called Adam Green who has been calling out the Trump deception. I knew this before I started watching him but if you watch him, you would understand the scam that he is running.

I'm not defending Trump.

The point I'm making is this Jacobin professor will have no problem extending his desire to see Trump supporters eradicated, to ALL freedom folks, even if they despise Trump.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 06:45 PM
So hes calling for genocide.

Yes.

And this is not the first or only time.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 06:46 PM
Its not much of an "outed" since that is all public record. He is just taking public information and handfeeding it to the mouthbreathers.

I wonder if anybody will get their house burned down?

Stratovarious
08-06-2019, 06:46 PM
Keep pushing, $#@!.

You haven't seen mayhem yet.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/campusreform/13533/reza.JPG

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13533



I see where he's going with this, he's declaring that he is a pedophile, and that all liberals are
pedos, rapists, thieves, and murderers , and should all be eradicated from society.

Brian4Liberty
08-06-2019, 06:50 PM
Now imagine if Trump, instead of saying “there are (or they’re) murders, rapists and drug dealers” Trump had said: “Illegal immigrants - ALL OF THEM - are murders and rapists”, who would be defending Trump?

Brian4Liberty
08-06-2019, 06:52 PM
Oh yeah. They want a fight. They WANT bloodshed.

Rep. Juan Castro on twitter just outed Trump donors and the names of their employers. If this isn't political terrorism I can't think of what might be.



“Sad to see so so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump,” the congressman wrote, proceeding to name local businesses whose owners gave the maximum to Trump’s campaign. Eleven of the 44 donors shown in Rep. Castro’s post listed their employment as “retired.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/06/joaquin-castro-names-trump-donors/?fbclid=IwAR2htn_hggRWXY_7wyKsxNr7GR5YzWLSujGoGuHt ZKN8yGEh2EJUuiVDLtg


Its not much of an "outed" since that is all public record. He is just taking public information and handfeeding it to the mouthbreathers.


I want someone to ask him, on camera and live, what exactly is the intent behind him publishing those names like that, and if he intends to take full responsibility for any attacks that occur on any of those people, as his comment of it being "sad to see" and that "their contributions are fueling a campaign of hate...", most certainly seems to imply that supporting the President = you're doing something wrong.

And we all know wrongdoers must be punished...


I wonder if anybody will get their house burned down?

Seems to me that Comrade Castro has opened himself up to lawsuits, and even possible criminal prosecution.

eleganz
08-06-2019, 07:18 PM
That is not what he said, he is saying white supremacist terror must be eradicated not that his supporter must be eradicated. The same way you can eradicate the KKK without killing white Klans people, you can do the same for white supremacists. Not saying that I agree with anything this guy is saying just pointing out that you are misrepresenting what he said.

Holy hell, be honest, what are you being blinded by?

Out of that tweet, thats all you got? You don't think that all of the connections he was making could lead from eradicating white supremacy to eradicating all supporters of white supremacy? And it doesn't matter if you support white supremacy/kkk or not, in his own words, by DEFAULT, supporting Trump or wearing the MAGA hat makes you a white supremacist.


Just another case of Trump (and in effect, TDS) is literally driving people out of their minds, not able to see what is clearly in front of them.

phill4paul
08-06-2019, 07:19 PM
I wonder if anybody will get their house burned down?

Hell, simply losing your job for who you chose to support is political-terrorism. Can't pay the bills, can't feed the kids. All because of who you choose to support. One of these businesses are gonna be targeted as to have such affect of having the employee fired.

phill4paul
08-06-2019, 07:24 PM
I want someone to ask him, on camera and live, what exactly is the intent behind him publishing those names like that, and if he intends to take full responsibility for any attacks that occur on any of those people, as his comment of it being "sad to see" and that "their contributions are fueling a campaign of hate...", most certainly seems to imply that supporting the President = you're doing something wrong.

And we all know wrongdoers must be punished...

Won't happen. The MSM AGREES with his tactics.

AngryCanadian
08-06-2019, 07:24 PM
This wont help the libearls win in 2020 let alone them pushing open borders or free healthcare for migrants while ignoring ordinary Americans.

Danke
08-06-2019, 07:24 PM
That is not what he said, he is saying white supremacist terror must be eradicated not that his supporter must be eradicated. The same way you can eradicate the KKK without killing white Klans people, you can do the same for white supremacists. Not saying that I agree with anything this guy is saying just pointing out that you are misrepresenting what he said.

6855

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 07:25 PM
Won't happen. The MSM AGREES with his tactics.

Agrees with and encourages.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 07:27 PM
That would be the absolutely most generous reading of that tweet possible. And you have twisted it too far from what was meant by any unbiased reading of that tweet.

Edit: “ALL OF THEM”? Seriously? Sorry that eliminates any doubt as to what he was saying.

That is most likely what he was inferring, but no doubt he was prepared to weasel out of that by saying he was only talking about the KKK, which is nonsense.

There's no weaseling out of it.

He meant what he said.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/campusreform/13533/reza.JPG

Occam's Banana
08-06-2019, 07:32 PM
CA-U of C prof: ALL Trump supporters are racist white supremacists and must be eradicated


That is not what he said [...]

That is what he said. It is literally and exactly what he said.

You might argue whether he really means it, or just misspoke himself, or is engaging in careless hyperbole, or whatever - but there is no other sensible interpretation of the words that he actually used in the way that he actually used them.


[...] he is saying white supremacist terror must be eradicated not that his supporter must be eradicated.

You are wrong. Read what he said again (and note that he himself explicitly tells us that "there is no room for [...] nuance" here):


After today there is no longer any room for nuance. The President is a white nationalist terror leader. His supporters - ALL OF THEM - are by definition white nationalist terror supporters. The MAGA hat is a KKK hood. And this evil, racist scourge must be eradicated from society.

Given the grammatical structure of the sentences, the antecedent(s) of the pronoun "this" - identified as the "evil, racist scourge" that "must be eradicated from society" - can only possibly be one or more of three things: "The President" or "His supporters - ALL OF THEM" or "The MAGA hat".

Your claim that "white supremacist terror" was the "this" to which he was referring is poor English and is simply incorrect. The adjectival phrase he used ("white nationalist terror") was used to describe the antecedent(s) to the pronominal phrase "this evil, racist scourge" - it was not used as the antecedent itself.

The only way around this is to insist that his use of "this" refers only the last of the three possible antecedents.

IOW: The only way around this is to insist that the "evil, racist scourge [that] must be eradicated from society" is ... "[t[he MAGA hat[s]" ...

Brian4Liberty
08-06-2019, 07:36 PM
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https://www.twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1158879846887333888

eleganz
08-06-2019, 07:39 PM
That is what he said. It is literally and exactly what he said.

You might argue whether he really means it or is just engaging in careless hyperbole - but there is no other sensible interpretation of the words he actually used and the way that he put them together.



You are wrong. Read what he said again (and note that he himself explicitly tells us that "there is no room for [...] nuance" here):



The antecedent(s) of the pronoun "this" - identified as the "evil, racist scourge" that "must be eradicated from society" - can only possibly be one or more of three things: "The President" or "His supporters - ALL OF THEM" or "The MAGA hat".

Your claim that "white supremacist terror" was the "this" to which he was referring is poor English and is simply incorrect. The adjectival phrase he used ("white nationalist terror") was used to describe the antecedent(s) to the pronominal phrase "this evil, racist scourge" - it was not used as the antecedent itself.

The only way around this is to insist that his use of "this" refers only the last of the three possible antecedents.

IOW: The only way around this is to insist that "evil, racist scourge [that] must be eradicated from society" is ... "[t[he MAGA hat[s]" ...

We all need to slowly accept that TDS (just like the left) cannot be reasoned with.

enhanced_deficit
08-06-2019, 07:43 PM
CA-U of C prof: ALL Trump supporters are racist white supremacists and must be eradicated



First part of this opinion is obvious fakenews, second part seems to shared by Foxnews pundits also these days:

Foxnews' Joey Jones condemns white supremacists and white supremacists evil doers:
"we renounce you, you're not American, this country is not for you,..if you do anything evil, we will find you, we will hunt you down and take you out" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXecHT--8lQ&feature=youtu.be&t=68)






MAGA does not have a racist bone in his body.. by extension same should apply to many of his supporters too. There are misguided extremists in every group, though some have more than others.

Trump condemns ‘racism, bigotry and white supremacy’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537659-Trump-condemns-‘racism-bigotry-and-white-supremacy’&)

Trump Deputy AG Rosenstein on recent mass shootings: “white terrorism” is more precise
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537617-Trump-Deputy-AG-Rosenstein-on-recent-mass-shootings-“white-terrorism”-is-more-precise&)
Trump: I don't have a racist bone in my body; Fakenews media ignores liberal race-mixer record (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?536842-Trump-I-don-t-have-a-racist-bone-in-my-body-Fakenews-media-ignores-liberal-race-mixer-record&)

Trump & Democrats Near Agreement on DACA (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?514924-Trump-amp-Democrats-Near-Agreement-on-DACA&)






Nope. Just nationalism. He would not have pardoned Alice Johnson and Jack Johnson or had Kanye over to the white house if he was white nationalist. Same with his recent A$AP tweets.


UWDude makes a strong point, there is big difference between a nationalist and a white nationalist/racist.


Trump pardons Jack Johnson erasing conviction for violating Anti White Slave Act (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522859-Media-continues-to-lie-amp-call-Trump-racist-even-when-he-publicly-supports-interracial-romances&p=6636637&viewfull=1#post6636637)

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537545)Trump administration warned Sweden of 'negative consequences' if Somali-American rapper A$AP Rocky wasn't released (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537545)


https://crooksandliars.com/files/imagecache/node_primary/primary_image/18/05/dehyk-lx4aeaez8.jpg

Khloe Kardashian kourts kontroversy with a KKK meme
https://metro.co.uk/2014/11/12/khloe-kardashian-kourts-kontroversy-with-a-kkk-meme-4945329/

Trump hosts Black Lives Matter activist at the White House

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 07:43 PM
Hell, simply losing your job for who you chose to support is political-terrorism. Can't pay the bills, can't feed the kids. All because of who you choose to support. One of these businesses are gonna be targeted as to have such affect of having the employee fired.

A group of Jacobins were shouting death threats at Mitch McConnell's house today:


In a video shared on Facebook Live, one male protester said he hoped someone had a “voodoo doll for these bitches.”

A female protester nearby later said, “Just stab the motherfucker in the heart, please.”

“The bitch is home… we keep seeing the lights go on and off,” one protester said.

“This hoe really thought he was going to get ready to be at home after he hurt his little punk ass shoulder.

Bitch, don’t nobody give a fuck!

Fuck your thoughts and prayers, Mitch.

Fuck you, fuck your wife, fuck everything you stand for. ” (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/06/watch-protesters-gather-outside-mitch-mcconnells-home-shout-death-threats/)


I'm sure they will move on to Rand's place before long.

How much longer before they juice themselves up enough to actually do it?

I mean, they have already tried to kill Rand twice.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 07:47 PM
In a video shared on Facebook Live, one male protester said he hoped someone had a “voodoo doll for these bitches.”

A female protester nearby later said, “Just stab the motherfucker in the heart, please.”

Oh, and what happened to those FedBook "hate" standards, Fuckerberg?

Anti Globalist
08-06-2019, 08:18 PM
A group of Jacobins were shouting death threats at Mitch McConnell's house today:


In a video shared on Facebook Live, one male protester said he hoped someone had a “voodoo doll for these bitches.”

A female protester nearby later said, “Just stab the motherfucker in the heart, please.”

“The bitch is home… we keep seeing the lights go on and off,” one protester said.

“This hoe really thought he was going to get ready to be at home after he hurt his little punk ass shoulder.

Bitch, don’t nobody give a $#@!!

$#@! your thoughts and prayers, Mitch.

$#@! you, $#@! your wife, $#@! everything you stand for. ” (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/06/watch-protesters-gather-outside-mitch-mcconnells-home-shout-death-threats/)


I'm sure they will move on to Rand's place before long.

How much longer before they juice themselves up enough to actually do it?

I mean, they have already tried to kill Rand twice.
Lets just hope that third time isn't the charm.

enhanced_deficit
08-06-2019, 08:44 PM
https://s3.amazonaws.com/campusreform/13533/reza.JPG



Sometimes you wish newsmakers discussed here are here to logically defend their views. Mr Arslan, in case you surf here, does this hat look like a 'KKK hood'?


https://www.fudzilla.com/media/k2/items/cache/838821a39e7cbc0f76ad7a0450002f7d_XL.jpghttps://the-hollywood-gossip-res.cloudinary.com/iu/s--gVZc65cA--/t_xlarge_p/cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_strip_profile.lossy,q_auto:420/v1527723030/kim-kardashian-and-donald-trump.jpg
Kanye West and Kim Kardashian with POTUS at White House



Semi-Related

Caution: Link below contains KKK hood imagery

Khloe Kardashian kourts kontroversy with a KKK meme
https://metro.co.uk/2014/11/12/khloe...-meme-4945329/ (https://metro.co.uk/2014/11/12/khloe-kardashian-kourts-kontroversy-with-a-kkk-meme-4945329/)

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 08:51 PM
Yes.

And this is not the first or only time.

Or the last.

oyarde
08-06-2019, 09:12 PM
Trump's most endearing quality is bringing the leftists out of the woodwork to show the true , vile , violent pox they are and what they have to offer .

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 09:18 PM
Trump's most endearing quality is bringing the leftists out of the woodwork to show the true , vile , violent pox they are and what they have to offer .
It might just be what saves us.

juleswin
08-06-2019, 10:34 PM
That would be the absolutely most generous reading of that tweet possible. And you have twisted it too far from what was meant by any unbiased reading of that tweet.

Edit: “ALL OF THEM”? Seriously? Sorry that eliminates any doubt as to what he was saying.


This is how it reads to me, in my understanding, he was talking about white supremacy. An ideology even Trump has come out against, he is talking about eliminating an ideology not a people. Reza Aslan is a bit of a radical but I don't think even he is that crazy to openly call for genocide.

juleswin
08-06-2019, 10:44 PM
That is what he said. It is literally and exactly what he said.

You might argue whether he really means it, or just misspoke himself, or is engaging in careless hyperbole, or whatever - but there is no other sensible interpretation of the words that he actually used in the way that he actually used them.



You are wrong. Read what he said again (and note that he himself explicitly tells us that "there is no room for [...] nuance" here):



Given the grammatical structure of the sentences, the antecedent(s) of the pronoun "this" - identified as the "evil, racist scourge" that "must be eradicated from society" - can only possibly be one or more of three things: "The President" or "His supporters - ALL OF THEM" or "The MAGA hat".

Your claim that "white supremacist terror" was the "this" to which he was referring is poor English and is simply incorrect. The adjectival phrase he used ("white nationalist terror") was used to describe the antecedent(s) to the pronominal phrase "this evil, racist scourge" - it was not used as the antecedent itself.

The only way around this is to insist that his use of "this" refers only the last of the three possible antecedents.

IOW: The only way around this is to insist that the "evil, racist scourge [that] must be eradicated from society" is ... "[t[he MAGA hat[s]" ...

You say that he literally said Trump supporters must be eradicated from society but if that was true, why didn't he avoid any ambiguity and just type "all Trump supporters who are white supremacists must be eradicated from society"? The fact that he did not say any such thing tells me that he did not literally say what you and AF thinks he said. The way I understood the tweet is that the pronoun "this" was used to identify the white supremacist group.

It seems like he is still tweeting so hopefully he would clarify what he meant by that. My guess considering that he is not a crazy person is that he would agree with my interpretation over yours.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 10:44 PM
This is how it reads to me, in my understanding, he was talking about white supremacy. An ideology even Trump has come out against, he is talking about eliminating an ideology not a people. Reza Aslan is a bit of a radical but I don't think even he is that crazy to openly call for genocide.

Ummm...no.


"His supporters - ALL OF THEM - Are white nationalist terror supporters. The MAGA is a KKK hood. And this evil racist scourge must be eradicated from society!"

There is no ambiguity there.

Genocide of roughly 60 million people is what this turd wants and called for.

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 10:46 PM
This is how it reads to me, in my understanding, he was talking about white supremacy. An ideology even Trump has come out against, he is talking about eliminating an ideology not a people. Reza Aslan is a bit of a radical but I don't think even he is that crazy to openly call for genocide.


You say that he literally said Trump supporters must be eradicated from society but if that was true, why didn't he avoid any ambiguity and just type "all Trump supporters who are white supremacists must be eradicated from society"? The fact that he did not say any such thing tells me that he did not literally say what you and AF thinks he said. The way I understood the tweet is that the pronoun "this" was used to identify the white supremacist group.

It seems like he is still tweeting so hopefully he would clarify what he meant by that. My guess considering that he is not a crazy person is that he would agree with my interpretation over yours.



But first he labeled all Trump voters as white supremacists, he is calling for genocide.

juleswin
08-06-2019, 10:49 PM
Ummm...no.



There is no ambiguity there.

Genocide of roughly 60 million people is what this turd wants and called for.

I think you read it much differently because this very topic has been on your mind for a while now. Its confirmation bias messing with you. If he was going to say it, he would have clearly stated what he meant. To me, he was talking about white supremacy not Trump supporters.

juleswin
08-06-2019, 10:51 PM
But first he labeled all Trump voters as white supremacists, he is calling for genocide.

I would like to eradicate zionism from the face of the earth, does this mean I want to eradicate supporters of zionism? the simple answer is no. You can call for the eradication of an ideology you do not like without it meaning that you want to kill the supporters.

Anti Federalist
08-06-2019, 10:53 PM
I think you read it much differently because this very topic has been on your mind for a while now. Its confirmation bias messing with you. If he was going to say it, he would have clearly stated what he meant. To me, he was talking about white supremacy not Trump supporters.

Yeah, when a bunch of usurpers and invaders start running around saying they are going to genocide me and my family and posterity, I do tend to sit up and take notice.

See, the thing is, throughout history, that kind of shit happens all the time.

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 10:55 PM
I would like to eradicate zionism from the face of the earth, does this mean I want to eradicate supporters of zionism? the simple answer is no. You can call for the eradication of an ideology you do not like without it meaning that you want to kill the supporters.
I'm sure some aristocrats said that kind of thing before the French Revolution too.

"They don't want to kill all aristocrats, they just want all men to be treated equal which is really how it should be" -- Lafayette (Maybe)

juleswin
08-06-2019, 11:06 PM
Yeah, when a bunch of usurpers and invaders start running around saying they are going to genocide me and my family and posterity, I do tend to sit up and take notice.

See, the thing is, throughout history, that kind of $#@! happens all the time.

You know AF, I do sometimes empathize with you, I cannot imagine what it feels like to live in real fear that your people are on the verge of extinction. But my problem with you is that I think you have lost the plot, I think you have absolutely no idea who the real enemy is and the different forms it can shapeshift into. I do believe there is some real f*cked up shyte going on in this country but I don't consider Reza Alsan tweet as one of em.

I think the people who want to enslave you and your children have been able to conceal their true identity to the point that some of the people on their hit list will fight and maybe even die protecting their slave master.

I dunno if you had time to check out this video I sent you, the guy in it is brilliant and better than anything else, he really knows who the real enemy is. Check him out if you happen to have some free time

juleswin
08-06-2019, 11:08 PM
I'm sure some aristocrats said that kind of thing before the French Revolution too.

"They don't want to kill all aristocrats, they just want all men to be treated equal which is really how it should be" -- Lafayette (Maybe)

Time will only tell but I can sure you that if any group is going to eradicate whites, it would come from people with real power

kona
08-07-2019, 12:01 AM
I used to think people like Reza were mental. I was wrong. They know exactly what they are doing.

And it has nothing to do with guns.

Occam's Banana
08-07-2019, 12:03 AM
You say that he literally said Trump supporters must be eradicated from society but if that was true, why didn't he avoid any ambiguity and just type "all Trump supporters who are white supremacists must be eradicated from society"?

*sigh* That is what he typed.

That is exactly what is both denoted and connoted by the particular words that he used, in the particular way and order that he used them:


His supporters - ALL OF THEM - are by definition white nationalist terror supporters. [...] And this evil, racist scourge must be eradicated from society.
Whatever ambiguity you think there is in what he might have meant, there is no ambiguity at all in what he actually said.

"Supporters" is the pronominal antecedent of "this [...] scourge," while "white nationalist terror" is an adjectival phrase applied to "supporters." IOW: What is "this [...] scourge?" "His supporters" are this scourge. What kind or manner of "supporters" are they? They are "white nationalist terror" supporters ...

Also, you have watered down what he said. He did not say, "all [...] who are [...]" (as if some of them might not be). He makes it quite clear that "ALL OF THEM" are, period ... ("by definition," no less ...)


The fact that he did not say any such thing tells me that he did not literally say what you and AF thinks he said. The way I understood the tweet is that the pronoun "this" was used to identify the white supremacist group.

He did literally say it. It doesn't matter how you (want to) "understand" it - adjectival phrases are not nominal subjects. They can no more be pronominal antecedents than 5 can be the sum of 2 plus 2. This is not a matter of opinion.


It seems like he is still tweeting so hopefully he would clarify what he meant by that. My guess considering that he is not a crazy person is that he would agree with my interpretation over yours.

And your guess is all that it is at this time - a guess. Perhaps he did mean it in just the way you think he did. He might well have, and I have not claimed otherwise. As I said before, "You might argue whether he really means it, or just misspoke himself, or is engaging in careless hyperbole, or whatever [...]."

But not being a mind-reader myself, I do not know what he "really" meant. All I have to go on is what he actually said - and there is simply no argument to be had over the meaning of what he actually said, regardless of whether he really meant it that way or not. And if he did not mean it that way, and is now being beaten over the head with his own words, then he has no one but himself (and his provocatively sloppy and careless use of English) to blame for it ...

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 12:08 AM
More and more calls for violence are stemming from national Democrats’ divisive rhetoric against President Trump and half of the country that support him.
Today in Patchogue, a city in New York, fliers were found plastered across signage declaring support for “Death Camps for Trump Supporters Now!!!”
A local theatre company captured the images:
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/68712890-713971409058276-8110943788857294848-n___06143829928.jpghttps://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/67662569-413396235945392-7196244092727066624-n___06144621725.jpg https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/67769850-2383812811891058-3862502134113107968-n___06143843973.jpg



More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-now-emblazoned-on-antifa-style-fliers-in-new-york/

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 12:18 AM
Oh, you're just reading it wrong, they don't really say that.

They don't really want to put Trump supporters in death camps.



More and more calls for violence are stemming from national Democrats’ divisive rhetoric against President Trump and half of the country that support him.
Today in Patchogue, a city in New York, fliers were found plastered across signage declaring support for “Death Camps for Trump Supporters Now!!!”
A local theatre company captured the images:
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/68712890-713971409058276-8110943788857294848-n___06143829928.jpghttps://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/67662569-413396235945392-7196244092727066624-n___06144621725.jpg https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/67769850-2383812811891058-3862502134113107968-n___06143843973.jpg

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-now-emblazoned-on-antifa-style-fliers-in-new-york/

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 12:20 AM
Oh, you're just reading it wrong, they don't really say that.

They don't really want to put Trump supporters in death camps.
They want us to have our very own death camps to put messicans in.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 12:21 AM
Time will only tell but I can sure you that if any group is going to eradicate whites, it would come from people with real power

You're on the list too buddy-boy.

Just by virtue of being here, lily white progressive Jacobin turds will string you up as an "Uncle Tom" just as fast as they will me.

pao
08-07-2019, 12:26 AM
This is how it reads to me, in my understanding, he was talking about white supremacy. An ideology even Trump has come out against, he is talking about eliminating an ideology not a people. Reza Aslan is a bit of a radical but I don't think even he is that crazy to openly call for genocide.

It doesn't matter what he meant to say...
He is smart enough to know that there are unstable people within his sphere of influence that will read and violently act out based on what he has said regardless of what his words may grammatically mean.

phill4paul
08-07-2019, 03:59 AM
Ads Pulled for Gory Universal Thriller 'The Hunt' in Wake of Mass Shootings (Exclusive)

In the wake of a trio of deadly massacres, the studio is evaluating its strategy for the R-rated Blumhouse satire in which elites stalk "deplorables."

"Did anyone see what our ratfucker-in-chief just did?" one character asks early in the screenplay for The Hunt, a Universal Pictures thriller set to open Sept. 27. Another responds: "At least The Hunt's coming up. Nothing better than going out to the Manor and slaughtering a dozen deplorables."

The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum's Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ads-pulled-hunt-wake-mass-shootings-1229829

Danke
08-07-2019, 04:14 AM
Ads Pulled for Gory Universal Thriller 'The Hunt' in Wake of Mass Shootings (Exclusive)

In the wake of a trio of deadly massacres, the studio is evaluating its strategy for the R-rated Blumhouse satire in which elites stalk "deplorables."

"Did anyone see what our ratfucker-in-chief just did?" one character asks early in the screenplay for The Hunt, a Universal Pictures thriller set to open Sept. 27. Another responds: "At least The Hunt's coming up. Nothing better than going out to the Manor and slaughtering a dozen deplorables."

The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum's Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ads-pulled-hunt-wake-mass-shootings-1229829


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY

Schifference
08-07-2019, 04:16 AM
Black Pride is to be honored. There is even an entire month of the year dedicated to it. White pride = racist.

Cap
08-07-2019, 04:20 AM
Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.

Schifference
08-07-2019, 04:47 AM
In the game of 19xD Chess, Trump campaign is behind this. They expect to win over the few sane Democrat voters. What happened to censorship of tweets and FB and all the outrage of hate speech?

Suzanimal
08-07-2019, 05:11 AM
I think you read it much differently because this very topic has been on your mind for a while now. Its confirmation bias messing with you.

I don't have any confirmation bias messing with me and that's the way I read it, too.


If he was going to say it, he would have clearly stated what he meant. To me, he was talking about white supremacy not Trump supporters.

He said there was no room for nuance and you're nuancing, Jules.

TheTexan
08-07-2019, 05:34 AM
People sometimes think I'm a racist too.

I have no idea why.

I even have a black friend, and he's not even a drug dealer.

juleswin
08-07-2019, 06:13 AM
I don't have any confirmation bias messing with me and that's the way I read it, too.

True, it may not be the only reason but it definitely doesn't help your understanding of the sentence in the tweet when you have that occupying your head for the last 3 or so years.


He said there was no room for nuance and you're nuancing, Jules.

That part is him clearly talking about the idea that ALL Trump supporters are white supremacist terror supporters. He has even clarified that part in his later tweeting.

Just so people don't come out of this thinking I support the man and his ideas. I disagree with him but I just don't think he is calling for genociding anyone. The people who are trying to destroy this country and white culture are working with Trump, they are the ones causing and promoting mass migration but rarely do you see any of the people getting angry about the tweet points them out. This part really frustrates me. You cannot win a battle where you are unable to identify the enemy

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 10:33 AM
Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.

OK, keeping in mind that the person who wrote this is a NYT best selling author, a professor with a captive audience and cable TV audience of a couple million people or more...what is your suggestion?

Ignore it?

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 10:34 AM
True, it may not be the only reason but it definitely doesn't help your understanding of the sentence in the tweet when you have that occupying your head for the last 3 or so years.

He meant exactly what he said.

Period.

specsaregood
08-07-2019, 10:39 AM
OK, keeping in mind that the person who wrote this is a NYT best selling author, a professor with a captive audience and cable TV audience of a couple million people or more...what is your suggestion?

Ignore it?

The problem with pussies like him are that they will never try anything themselves. They will get others riled up to do the dirty work for him.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 10:54 AM
The problem with pussies like him are that they will never try anything themselves. They will get others riled up to do the dirty work for him.

Exactly...that is precisely what is going on here.

When the Bolshevik mob shows up at Rand's house for instance.

Sammy
08-07-2019, 10:56 AM
Reza Aslan is a scumbag. He is BTW pro war.

CoastieInColorado
08-07-2019, 11:11 AM
Exactly...that is precisely what is going on here.

When the Bolshevik mob shows up at Rand's house for instance.

Then it will be, "well, they were just using their free speech and freedom to assemble, and we can't be too sure they really meant those death threats...":rolleyes:

TheTexan
08-07-2019, 11:13 AM
They want us to have our very own death camps to put messicans in.

That's very thoughtful of them :up:

Anti Globalist
08-07-2019, 11:29 AM
If Reza Aslan wants white supremacists eradicated, he should put his money where his mouth is and start it. That is unless hes too chicken shit to do it.

CoastieInColorado
08-07-2019, 11:42 AM
If Reza Aslan wants white supremacists eradicated, he should put his money where his mouth is and start it. That is unless hes too chicken shit to do it.

The problem is is that it's people like him who are deciding who are the white supremacists-which at this point, means anyone who disagrees with any left talking points.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 11:51 AM
The problem is is that it's people like him who are deciding who are the white supremacists-which at this point, means anyone who disagrees with any left talking points.

I owe you a rep.

That is the problem.

Somewhere back in this thread I posted the WaPo article that lays out for the Bolshevik mobs how Trump learned his "racism" from Ron Paul.

Doesn't matter what you think of Trump at this point.

If you're a white person that is in favor of "limited government" (meaning that in the broadest of all possible ways: this would include the entire range of thought, from ana-caps to traditional conservatives and everything in between), you've got a target on your back.

If you're a "fellow traveler" of any ethnicity, you've got a target on your back.

shakey1
08-07-2019, 12:03 PM
And never forget, those of you, who, like me are lukewarm toward the Drunken Monkey, at best and voted for Ron Paul:

Trump learned his racism from Ron Paul.

There's a $#@!ing fight coming and it's coming soon.

Where did Donald Trump get his racialized rhetoric? From libertarians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/02/where-did-donald-trump-get-his-racialized-rhetoric-from-libertarians/

The intersection of white nationalism, the alt-right and Ron Paul

That’s not quite true, though. Trump’s style and positions — endorsing and consorting with 9/11 truthers, promoting online racists, using fake statistics — draw on a now-obscure political strategy called “paleolibertarianism,” which was once quite popular among some Republicans, especially former presidential candidate Ron Paul.

Formally, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) may be his father’s political heir. But there’s no question that the paranoid and semi-racialist mien frequently favored by Trump originates in the fevered swamps that the elder Paul dwelled in for decades. Most people who back Trump don’t do so for racist reasons, but it’s incredible how many of the same white nationalists and conspiracy theorists to whom Ron Paul once catered are now ardent Trump supporters. It’s because Trump and Paul speak the same language.

Mainstream libertarians have been agonizing over this legacy among themselves for some time, hoping that either the elder or younger Paul would definitively denounce the movement’s racialist past, but no such speech has ever come. Instead, the paleolibertarian strategy concocted decades ago as a way to push for minimal government threatens to replace right-wing libertarianism with white nationalism.

And on and on and on...

Had RP actually won in 2012, he woulda been the target of this same racist line of BS.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 12:10 PM
Had RP actually won in 2012, he woulda been the target of this same racist line of BS.

Of course.

It would have been non stop.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 12:12 PM
The Hunt - New movie where elite Bolsheviks hunt down and kill "deplorables" (that's us, in case you didn't know) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537741-New-Film-quot-The-Hunt-quot-where-elite-Bolsheviks-hunt-down-and-kill-quot-deplorables-quot)

Brian4Liberty
08-07-2019, 12:42 PM
Reza Aslan is a scumbag. He is BTW pro war.

And that’s what it really comes down to. If you are not pro-intervention, they will smear you.

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 04:34 PM
Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.
Take your soma elsewhere, Judas Goat.

ProBlue33
08-07-2019, 04:56 PM
More and more calls for violence are stemming from national Democrats’ divisive rhetoric against President Trump and half of the country that support him.
Today in Patchogue, a city in New York, fliers were found plastered across signage declaring support for “Death Camps for Trump Supporters Now!!!”
A local theatre company captured the images:
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/68712890-713971409058276-8110943788857294848-n___06143829928.jpghttps://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/67662569-413396235945392-7196244092727066624-n___06144621725.jpg https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/67769850-2383812811891058-3862502134113107968-n___06143843973.jpg



More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-now-emblazoned-on-antifa-style-fliers-in-new-york/


See this is a problem, humans don't learn from history there was this thing in the last 100 years called "National Socialism" that called for all people that never thought "Exactly" like them to be put into death camps and it wasn't just Jews. Have a look at the identification chart here.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/e1/77/dde177408e6cc2610d41009ba3b594a2.png

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 05:01 PM
People sometimes think I'm a racist too.

I have no idea why.

I even have a black friend, and he's not even a drug dealer.
Jules isn't a drug dealer?

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 05:03 PM
See this is a problem, humans don't learn from history there was this thing in the last 100 years called "National Socialism" that called for all people that never thought "Exactly" like them to be put into death camps and it wasn't just Jews. Have a look at the identification chart here.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/e1/77/dde177408e6cc2610d41009ba3b594a2.png
The revolution is never satiated, when it has finished off each target it always selects a new one.

Occam's Banana
08-07-2019, 05:06 PM
The way I understood the tweet is that the pronoun "this" was used to identify the white supremacist group. [emphasis added - OB]

It was.

"The white supremacist[1] group" is indeed what he identified as (part of) "this evil, racist scourge" that "must be eradicated from society."[2]

That is my whole point. In the above quote, you have acknowledged that you recognize this as well.



[1] Actually, the author of the tweet used the word "nationalist," not "supremacist." But AF used "supremacist" in his paraphrase and you have followed his cue, so I will assume that the terms are being used interchangeably for purposes of this particular discussion.

[2] And he explicitly identified the members of that group as being "His supporters - ALL OF THEM" (who he describes "by definition" as being "white nationalist terror supporters"). IOW: He is not identifying the abstraction of "white nationalism" as being the "scourge" which "must be eradicated" - he is identifying a particular group of "white nationalists" (specifically, all Trump supporters) as the "scourge" to be "eradicated" ... (and again, you might argue that he didn't "really" mean it that way ... but he absolutely did [I]say it that way, regardless of what he might have meant ...)

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY

Sneaky muslims.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 05:15 PM
Actually, the author of the tweet used the word "nationalist," not "supremacist." But AF used "supremacist" in his paraphrase and you have followed his cue, so I will assume that the terms are being used interchangeably for purposes of this particular discussion.

Oh damn you're right, that was an error on my part.

Flagging the OP for a correction in the headline.

No need to cloud the issue here.

phill4paul
08-07-2019, 05:45 PM
Bullship thread, nothing but a bunch of divide and conquer wedge issues. C'mon people we are smarter than this.

Ah, but there are hundreds of millions dumbfounded dip-shits out there who take these wedge issues to heart. Ignore at your own peril.

A Son of Liberty
08-07-2019, 06:24 PM
I think you read it much differently because this very topic has been on your mind for a while now. Its confirmation bias messing with you. If he was going to say it, he would have clearly stated what he meant. To me, he was talking about white supremacy not Trump supporters.

Jeezus dude... come on... I'm ardently anti-Trump as I am anti-anyone-holding-that-office... but... come on...

It's getting out of hand. It's gotten to the point where these... so-called... for lack of a better term, "leftists" (they might as well be aliens at this point for as insane as they've gotten) are entirely unrecognizable as rational human beings, man.

I'm not here to align myself with the Swordsmyth's and Dannno's of this forum, but... COME ON.

These people are - at a minimum - spiraling themselves up into an unprovoked froth, and I don't see any outcome other than mayhem.

I'll be honest here, even as an avowed and committed anti-statist, what has been going on - from the arrival of mass numbers at the border to the media coverage and the political left's rhetoric regarding it frankly has the smell of a manufactured crisis. I'm not saying that I reject statelessness, but I am saying that there does in fact appear to be too many coincidences to be accidental, much as I do hate to say it.

We're literally at a point where I and a leftist can be looking at the same color and I say "blue" and he says "red". It's remarkable, what is happening right now. I'm not going out on a limb here but I'm more and more certain that we're facing some kind of civil conflict in the near future. We've been divided before, and to be sure we've endured tumultuous times since 1865, but I'm not sure that we've seen such fundamental disagreements since then.

A Son of Liberty
08-07-2019, 06:44 PM
I owe you a rep.

That is the problem.

Somewhere back in this thread I posted the WaPo article that lays out for the Bolshevik mobs how Trump learned his "racism" from Ron Paul.

Doesn't matter what you think of Trump at this point.

If you're a white person that is in favor of "limited government" (meaning that in the broadest of all possible ways: this would include the entire range of thought, from ana-caps to traditional conservatives and everything in between), you've got a target on your back.

If you're a "fellow traveler" of any ethnicity, you've got a target on your back.

It's not even limited to quote-unquote limited government types, I'm afraid.

I've been watching a lot of Tim Pool videos on YT lately and he - as a left-of-center commentator - does a good job of laying it out in a rather frank and legitimately unbiased manner... If you disagree with THEM, you're EVIL. You're a RACIST, and/or a BIGOT, and/or a FASCIST, and/or a WHATEVER-THE-FCK-THEY-CAN-CALL-YOU-THAT-WILL-DESTROY-YOU. THEY have become insane... THEY have become so ensconced in emotion-driven madness that when they are eventually - inevitably - faced with enough resistance, THEY will turn to the ends all collectivists ultimately return to - elimination of THEIR opposition.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 07:13 PM
It's not even limited to quote-unquote limited government types, I'm afraid.

I've been watching a lot of Tim Pool videos on YT lately and he - as a left-of-center commentator - does a good job of laying it out in a rather frank and legitimately unbiased manner... If you disagree with THEM, you're EVIL. You're a RACIST, and/or a BIGOT, and/or a FASCIST, and/or a WHATEVER-THE-FCK-THEY-CAN-CALL-YOU-THAT-WILL-DESTROY-YOU. THEY have become insane... THEY have become so ensconced in emotion-driven madness that when they are eventually - inevitably - faced with enough resistance, THEY will turn to the ends all collectivists ultimately return to - elimination of THEIR opposition.

That is where we are at today.

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 07:26 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1158459939980861440

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juleswin

CoastieInColorado
08-07-2019, 07:37 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1158459939980861440

1158459939980861440
@juleswin (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=28857)

This is so surreal. In real time, right now, my youtube feed is blowing up with MSM news sources, "white supremacy" this and that. I'm honestly surprised they're not showing archival footage of crosses burning at this point. These people want to see everyone that disagrees with them dead, or in prison, period, there is no nuance here.

That applies to EVERYONE here people....I think it's cute that some of you here honestly believe your "fuck trump" attitude will save you.

The white supremacist label is being slapped on everyone not towing the line, and will be used as the excuse to start killing people here very shortly...

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 07:42 PM
This is so surreal. In real time, right now, my youtube feed is blowing up with MSM news sources, "white supremacy" this and that. I'm honestly surprised they're not showing archival footage of crosses burning at this point. These people want to see everyone that disagrees with them dead, or in prison, period, there is no nuance here.

That applies to EVERYONE here people....I think it's cute that some of you here honestly believe your "$#@! trump" attitude will save you.

The white supremacist label is being slapped on everyone not towing the line, and will be used as the excuse to start killing people here very shortly...

The left has made its choice, they will not stop until we surrender or there is a civil war, all we can do now is try to improve our position for when it happens and maybe delay it.

Occam's Banana
08-07-2019, 07:48 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1158459939980861440

1158459939980861440
@juleswin (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=28857)

Well, that pretty much settles the question. AF was right:



He meant exactly what he said.

Period.
So now that that's out of the way, I guess his apologists will have to content themselves with quibbling over what he "really" means by "eradicate" ...

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 08:12 PM
It's getting out of hand. It's gotten to the point where these... so-called... for lack of a better term, "leftists" (they might as well be aliens at this point for as insane as they've gotten) are entirely unrecognizable as rational human beings, man.

They are Bolsheviks.

They are Jacobins.

That is the closest I have been able to come to identifying them.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 08:14 PM
Well, that pretty much settles any question of what he might actually have meant. AF was right:

So now his apologists can proceed to quibble over what he "really" means by "eradicate" ...

Just so we are clear: this is what he said:

https://i.imgur.com/Tr6rJbd.jpg

YOU are the depraved evil.

This is what weaksauce calls for "unity and healing" gets, by the way.

Anti Federalist
08-07-2019, 08:17 PM
This is so surreal. In real time, right now, my youtube feed is blowing up with MSM news sources, "white supremacy" this and that. I'm honestly surprised they're not showing archival footage of crosses burning at this point. These people want to see everyone that disagrees with them dead, or in prison, period, there is no nuance here.

That applies to EVERYONE here people....I think it's cute that some of you here honestly believe your "fuck trump" attitude will save you.

The white supremacist label is being slapped on everyone not towing the line, and will be used as the excuse to start killing people here very shortly...

You got it brother.

We're in a tight spot.

shakey1
08-08-2019, 07:47 AM
Jeezus dude... come on... I'm ardently anti-Trump as I am anti-anyone-holding-that-office... but... come on...

It's getting out of hand. It's gotten to the point where these... so-called... for lack of a better term, "leftists" (they might as well be aliens at this point for as insane as they've gotten) are entirely unrecognizable as rational human beings, man.

I'm not here to align myself with the Swordsmyth's and Dannno's of this forum, but... COME ON.

These people are - at a minimum - spiraling themselves up into an unprovoked froth, and I don't see any outcome other than mayhem.

I'll be honest here, even as an avowed and committed anti-statist, what has been going on - from the arrival of mass numbers at the border to the media coverage and the political left's rhetoric regarding it frankly has the smell of a manufactured crisis. I'm not saying that I reject statelessness, but I am saying that there does in fact appear to be too many coincidences to be accidental, much as I do hate to say it.

We're literally at a point where I and a leftist can be looking at the same color and I say "blue" and he says "red". It's remarkable, what is happening right now. I'm not going out on a limb here but I'm more and more certain that we're facing some kind of civil conflict in the near future. We've been divided before, and to be sure we've endured tumultuous times since 1865, but I'm not sure that we've seen such fundamental disagreements since then.

Yeah, kinda scary.

shakey1
08-08-2019, 07:49 AM
This is so surreal. In real time, right now, my youtube feed is blowing up with MSM news sources, "white supremacy" this and that. I'm honestly surprised they're not showing archival footage of crosses burning at this point. These people want to see everyone that disagrees with them dead, or in prison, period, there is no nuance here.

That applies to EVERYONE here people....I think it's cute that some of you here honestly believe your "$#@! trump" attitude will save you.

The white supremacist label is being slapped on everyone not towing the line, and will be used as the excuse to start killing people here very shortly...

Rather unsettling to be sure.

Swordsmyth
08-08-2019, 07:50 PM
This should be a sticky thread.

Swordsmyth
08-09-2019, 12:45 AM
A leftist activist called for setting Tucker Carlson on fire before subsequently claiming it was a”joke” after he received a backlash.
Tim Hannan, who describes himself as an anti-Trump resistance member and an “average citizen turned activist,” tweeted to his 26,000 followers, “#FireTuckerCarlson – literally light him on fire.”

#FireTuckerCarlson (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FireTuckerCarlson?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) – literally light him on fire.
— Tim Hannan (@TimHannan) August 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TimHannan/status/1159197149470609408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

The tweet was in response to liberal outrage over Carlson’s assertion that paranoia over “white supremacy” was becoming hysterical and that there are numerous other far bigger problems America faces.
As soon as the tweet began catching flak, Hannan tried to backpedal, tweeting, “For the record I hope no one hurts Tucker, this was a joke. Maybe a milkshake filled with piss, though.”

For the record I hope no one hurts Tucker, this was a joke. Maybe a milkshake filled with piss, though.
— Tim Hannan (@TimHannan) August 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TimHannan/status/1159233002456719361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

He then appeared to react angrily to the backlash, tweeting, “The people upset over my joke defend the most vile shit daily. Fuck you all.”

The people upset over my joke defend the most vile shit daily. Fuck you all. https://t.co/TZhR8k3zNf
— Tim Hannan (@TimHannan) August 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/TimHannan/status/1159238553961975809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Hannan’s original tweet is still up and has not been removed by Twitter.

https://www.infowars.com/dem-activist-jokes-about-setting-fire-to-tucker-carlson/

Occam's Banana
08-09-2019, 01:54 AM
Tim Hannan, who describes himself as an anti-Trump resistance member and an “average citizen turned activist,” tweeted to his 26,000 followers, “#FireTuckerCarlson – literally light him on fire.”

[...]

The tweet was in response to liberal outrage over Carlson’s assertion that paranoia over “white supremacy” was becoming hysterical [...]

quod erat demonstrandum

A Son of Liberty
08-09-2019, 04:25 AM
“For the record I hope no one hurts Tucker, this was a joke. Maybe a milkshake filled with piss, though.”

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rClNZLXSKA8/maxresdefault.jpg

tod evans
08-09-2019, 05:09 AM
You got it brother.

We're in a tight spot.

No we're not.

"They" are putting themselves in an untenable situation that won't end well for them.

Further proof of mental defect or deficit.

Those on here who still frequent cities may have a bit of a row to hoe but they've been warned for years....

Swordsmyth
08-15-2019, 08:39 PM
An adjunct professor from City University of New York says the “ideology of racialized terrorism” is the responsibility of all white people in the United States.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/2019-08-15_8-58-36.jpg
In an interview with WBGO radio (which was taken offline shortly after being posted; the archived link is here (https://web.archive.org/web/20190812181005/https://www.wbgo.org/post/commentator-josie-gonsalves-taking-closer-look-race-war-americas-streets#stream/0)), political science instructor Josie Gonsalves said that she has “seen enough” and proceeded to tie America’s racist and capitalist past to the current mass shootings of the present.


Gonsalves claims she left her island nation (she doesn’t identify it) — “a parliamentary democracy with vigorous intellectual discourse and robust civic engagement” — and upon arrival in the US was “assigned” the designation of “immigrant, non-white, and ‘other.'”
That “other” is key, Gonsalves says, as white America has a history of engaging in the ethnic cleansing of “others,” starting with Native Americans.
The professor also has an interesting way to describe the Civil War: “So fierce, the fight for ownership of human beings as chattel, America waged a Civil War from 1861-65 to maintain, property rights over Black bodies.”
From the story (https://web.archive.org/web/20190812181005/https://www.wbgo.org/post/commentator-josie-gonsalves-taking-closer-look-race-war-americas-streets#stream/0):

This political ideology of racialized terrorism rests with every white designated person in this country. White neoliberals cloak themselves in a fantasy that the race war exploding on the streets of America rests discreetly in the hands of “crazies,” “far-right wingers,” “outliers” and even more mythic characterizations. So, America builds clinics and mental health hospital beds for White home-grown terrorists, but concentration camps and high-level security prisons for Black, and Black and Brown immigrants.
The killings in El Paso and Dayton this past weekend demonstrate, again, that the ugly of America is as mainstream as apple pie. This country’s history and praxis rest comfortably in the mythology of white superiority. In choosing to “other” fellow citizens [undocumented and documented Black and Brown immigrants; Brown and Black; Muslim and Jew], white America has damned this democracy into the hands of White terrorists. White America has laid the burden of the debt incurred by white supremacy on the bodies and psyches of the “other.”
Gonsalves goes on to wonder why we pay tribute every September 11 to “the once pillars of American capitalism,” but never to “the young Black and Brown” victims of domestic terror. She also claims a race war “is being thrust upon us.”

“White America,” she concludes, “can no longer expect to pay for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness with the red blood of those they want to Other, criminalize, dehumanize, disenfranchise, and marginalize.”
The College Fix asked WBGO why Gonsalves’s original commentary was removed, but did not receive a response.
According to her LinkedIn page (https://www.linkedin.com/in/josie-gonsalves-73961799), Gonsalves is a “sort-after [sic] public speaker and moderator on racial and social justice, and implicit bias” whose post-graduate studies at Rutgers included “reparative justice.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-15/cuny-prof-all-white-people-responsible-ideology-racialized-terrorism

susano
08-15-2019, 09:09 PM
I wonder if anybody will get their house burned down?

I'm sure that was his intent. That was a hit list that he made and it was meant for the Antifa types so they would know whom to assault. It was an intimidation tactic, just like his commie ideological predecessors used.

Anti Federalist
08-15-2019, 09:33 PM
Gonsalves said that she has “seen enough” and proceeded to tie America’s racist and capitalist past to the current mass shootings of the present.

Gonsalves claims she left her island nation (she doesn’t identify it) — “a parliamentary democracy with vigorous intellectual discourse and robust civic engagement” — and upon arrival in the US was “assigned” the designation of “immigrant, non-white, and ‘other.'”

Gonsalves is a common Haitian surname.

Regardless, get the fuck out of my country and carry your sorry ass right back to whatever shithole island you came from.

Anti Federalist
08-19-2019, 04:40 PM
https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/008/153/261/original/395e87a68690d580.jpg?1566241807

It appears Bernie has declared war on me as well.