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TheCount
08-06-2019, 12:11 PM
Washington(CNN)President Donald Trump on Monday announced the US would expand its existing sanctions against Venezuela with an executive order banning Americans doing business with President Nicolas Maduro's government.

The executive order freezes assets of the government of Venezuela and associated entities and prohibits economic transactions with it, unless specifically exempted. Exemptions include official business of the federal government and transactions related to the provision of humanitarian aid.

It marks an escalation from the already expansive US measures against the Venezuelan government since the start of the country's chaotic political and economic crisis earlier this year.

In a letter to Congress outlining the action Monday night, Trump said, "I have determined that it is necessary to block the property of the Government of Venezuela in light of the continued usurpation of power by the illegitimate Nicolas Maduro regime, as well as the regime's human rights abuses, arbitrary arrest and detention of Venezuelan citizens, curtailment of free press, and ongoing attempts to undermine Interim President Juan Guaido of Venezuela and the democratically-elected Venezuelan National Assembly."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/politics/trump-economic-embargo-venezuela/index.html

AngryCanadian
08-06-2019, 12:14 PM
A economic embargo against Venezuela would cause more migrants to America.
:frog:

PAF
08-06-2019, 12:16 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537616-Trump-Ponders-Deadly-Blockade-of-Venezuela

PAF
08-06-2019, 12:21 PM
A economic embargo against Venezuela would cause more migrants to America.
:frog:

As long as they come in “legally” through that big beautiful wall, sign up with the Fed.gov to become eligible for government assist, what’s the government problem?

Idiots.

Put a wall around that pathetic WH maybe I’ll kick in.

TheCount
08-06-2019, 12:24 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537616-Trump-Ponders-Deadly-Blockade-of-Venezuela

dannno 's Trumpsplainations are being proven wrong more quickly as time goes by. This took less than 24 hours.

AngryCanadian
08-06-2019, 12:24 PM
As long as they come in “legally” through that big beautiful wall, sign up with the Fed.gov to become eligible for government assist, what’s the government problem?

Idiots.

Put a wall around that pathetic WH maybe I’ll kick in.

Overan by Neo Cons it seems. Hillary Clinton would had just opened the borders like her best friend Merkel.

PAF
08-06-2019, 12:29 PM
Overan by Neo Cons it seems. Hillary Clinton would had just opened the borders like her best friend Merkel.

Hitlery voted for that stupid wall many times, along with Obama and Schumer. It’s the only way to funnel them in, make sure they come in “legally” and sign up with the Fed.gov.

Trump picked up where obama could not succeed.

Idiots.

Origanalist
08-06-2019, 12:37 PM
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enhanced_deficit
08-06-2019, 12:40 PM
A economic embargo against Venezuela would cause more migrants to America.
:frog:


You didn't mean it but such comments can inadevrtantly boost controversial conspiracy theories that unfairly try to blame MAGA's donor classes of trying to push more refugees towards US/Europe.



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dannno
08-06-2019, 01:00 PM
@dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=10908) 's Trumpsplainations are being proven wrong more quickly as time goes by. This took less than 24 hours.

Ya if you move the goalposts..

How is this a total embargo? It's only against doing business with the government, not the people, and there are exceptions for food and medicine. Not saying I support it, it just seems like a lot of exaggerating is going on.

Have you hired an attorney? You seem panicked lately. Are you in Epstein's little black book?

TheCount
08-06-2019, 01:23 PM
Ya if you move the goalposts.. How is this a total embargo? It's only against doing business with the government, not the people, and there are exceptions for food and medicine. Not saying I support it, it just seems like a lot of exaggerating is going on. Have you hired an attorney? You seem panicked lately. Are you in Epstein's little black book? I didn't call it an embargo.

Maybe I should hire an attorney... I hear that there's three gorillion sealed indictments, and the arrests are going to start happening just as soon as Paul Ryan is out. All this waiting is just part of the plan to blame Paul Ryan, right? Is that still your working theory?

dannno
08-06-2019, 01:36 PM
I didn't call it an embargo.

The title of your thread says it is a "Total Economic Embargo"

Next time you should probably make it clear that you are aware you are posting fake news.

oyarde
08-06-2019, 01:49 PM
Not sure I get this . Trump says he must stick up with the elected assembly of Venezuela . People here oppose that ? Best I can tell the national assembly there is like the House here .

brushfire
08-06-2019, 01:58 PM
#tiredOfWinning


Not sure I get this . Trump says he must stick up with the elected assembly of Venezuela . People here oppose that ? Best I can tell the national assembly there is like the House here .

My opinion is that we should probably get our sh!t together - even then, what business it of ours to punish the Venezuelan government? Let the Venezuelan people take care of their government, cause the US really sucks and foreign affairs, and spreading democracy. There's no money in minding one's business, at least not so far as the special interest and their pet politicians are concerned.

oyarde
08-06-2019, 02:15 PM
#tiredOfWinning



My opinion is that we should probably get our sh!t together - even then, what business it of ours to punish the Venezuelan government? Let the Venezuelan people take care of their government, cause the US really sucks and foreign affairs, and spreading democracy. There's no money in minding one's business, at least not so far as the special interest and their pet politicians are concerned.

I agree that venezuela is of no interest or importance to the avg american taxpayer . I have no real problem though with the fed govt deciding not to do business with the govt there . Otherwise I am free trade for private business although anyone doing business with a socialist country in the state of collapse is going to lose money so not sure why they would be and I would not want our govt bailing them out .

Brian4Liberty
08-06-2019, 02:30 PM
A economic embargo against Venezuela would cause more migrants to America.
:frog:

It’s already part of the plan. Neocons are two steps ahead...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537391-Temporary-protected-status-for-Venezuelans-passes-House-heads-to-Senate

TheCount
08-06-2019, 02:50 PM
The title of your thread says it is a "Total Economic Embargo"

Yeah. I didn't write it.




Next time you should probably make it clear that you are aware you are posting fake news.

You first.

TheCount
08-06-2019, 02:56 PM
Extra! Extra! dannno wrong about basically everything all of the time!



U.S. Expands Sanctions Against Venezuela Into an Embargo

New measures mark a significant escalation of pressure against the regime of President Nicolás Maduro and countries including Russia and China that continue to support him

WASHINGTON—The Trump administration imposed a total economic embargo against the government of Venezuela, a significant escalation of pressure against the regime of President Nicolás Maduro and countries including Russia and China that continue to support him, a senior administration official said.

President Trump late Monday signed an executive order freezing all government assets and prohibiting transactions with it, unless specifically exempted, the first action of its kind against a government in the Western Hemisphere in more than 30 years. The move places Venezuela on a par with North Korea, Iran, Syria and Cuba, the only other countries currently under such stringent U.S. measures.

Since the onset of Venezuela’s political crisis (https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuela-negotiators-agree-to-new-round-of-talks-11558830760?mod=article_inline) this year, the U.S. has imposed sanctions (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-issues-sanctions-over-alleged-corruption-in-venezuela-food-program-under-maduro-11564069148?mod=article_inline) on more than 100 individuals and entities (https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-sanctions-reach-limits-as-venezuela-is-wrung-dry-11560270628?mod=article_inline), including state-owned oil company Petróleos de Venezuela SA, the Venezuelan Development Bank and Venezuela’s central bank.

The new move threatens to target and impose sanctions on virtually any company or individual, foreign or American, that engages in business or offers support to anyone affiliated with the Maduro government, the official said. It isn’t designed to target the people of Venezuela, including their access to remittances.

The U.S. has dozens of sanctions statutes, regulations and executive orders, administered by a variety of government agencies. Some involve selective sanctions while others are more comprehensive. The most rigorous and comprehensive sanctions programs are considered embargoes.

The sweeping action against Venezuela apparently had been under discussion for some time. Last week, a reporter asked President Trump whether he was considering such a measure, given China and Iran’s continued support for Mr. Maduro.


“Yes, I am,” he said.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-expands-sanctions-against-venezuela-into-an-embargo-11565053782

brushfire
08-06-2019, 04:14 PM
I agree that venezuela is of no interest or importance to the avg american taxpayer . I have no real problem though with the fed govt deciding not to do business with the govt there . Otherwise I am free trade for private business although anyone doing business with a socialist country in the state of collapse is going to lose money so not sure why they would be and I would not want our govt bailing them out .

Putting it that way, I cant argue. However, the order was not contained to just the government. This is a veiled sanction on the people of Venezuela, more or less.

Dr Paul just hit on the topic - I'm about 7 minutes into the video and their asking some very good questions. BTW - you still have my vote as of 8/6/2019 5:15 PM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERTCaQR1EE0

Zippyjuan
08-06-2019, 04:45 PM
Will Venezuela sanctions be as successful as the ones we have had on Cuba for over 50 years to try to change their government? Sanctions give a government cover. The can blame their own mis-management and screw ups on the US. The government stays in power and the citizens suffer more. They give the US the illusion of "do something".

Cap
08-06-2019, 05:37 PM
Neo-cons on the march.

Origanalist
08-06-2019, 08:34 PM
I agree that venezuela is of no interest or importance to the avg american taxpayer . I have no real problem though with the fed govt deciding not to do business with the govt there . Otherwise I am free trade for private business although anyone doing business with a socialist country in the state of collapse is going to lose money so not sure why they would be and I would not want our govt bailing them out .

Thats not what this is though. It prohibit's Americans from doing business with them, not the government.

oyarde
08-06-2019, 08:38 PM
Thats not what this is though. It prohibit's Americans from doing business with them, not the government.

I see no reason for that . I would just let them know not to seek help with the predictable failure of that business . I see no reason for any venezuelan policies .

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 08:43 PM
FAKE NEWS HEADLINE

This is NOT a "Total Economic Embargo".

Cap
08-07-2019, 02:55 AM
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invisible
08-07-2019, 11:51 PM
FAKE NEWS HEADLINE

This is NOT a "Total Economic Embargo".

No, it's an act of war, not to mention a continuation and escalation of obomba's NWO regime change foreign policy.
http://www.radiohc.cu/en/noticias/internacionales/198359-food-shipment-destined-for-venezuela-seized-in-panama-canal

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez denounced Wednesday that a ship containing 25 thousand tons of soya has been seized in the Panama Canal due to the U.S. blockade. She issued an urgent call to the United Nations to take action against the "serious aggression" that prevents Venezuela from having access to food.

https://sputniknews.com/latam/201908081076498777-venezuelan-government-says-ship-carrying-soy-detained-in-panama-canal-due-to-us-sa nctions/

Rodriguez added that an owner of the detained ship was told by an insurance company that he had been banned from bringing goods to Venezuela due to the sanctions.