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Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 05:31 PM
The Federal Bureau of Investigations aims to acquire access to a “social media early alerting tool” that will help insiders proactively and reactively monitor how terrorist groups, foreign intelligence services, criminal organizations and other domestic threats use networking platforms to further their illegal efforts, according to a request for proposal (https://www.fbo.gov/index.php?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=fe943e551236e0e62ee0843d5803781e&_cview=0) amended this week.
“With increased use of social media platforms by subjects of current FBI investigations and individuals that pose a threat to the United States, it is critical to obtain a service which will allow the FBI to identify relevant information from Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and other Social media platforms in a timely fashion,” the agency said in the RFP. “Consequently, the FBI needs near real-time access to a full range of social media exchanges in order to obtain the most current information available in furtherance of its law enforcement and intelligence missions.”
Though the request was initially released on July 8, the FBI amended it this week to extend the relevant dates: The agency’s answers to vendors moved from July 25 to Aug. 7, and the proposal due date shifted from Aug. 8 to Aug. 27. Though the original proposal listed the anticipated award date as Aug. 30, it could be pushed back due to these changes.

More at: https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2019/07/fbi-wants-tech-track-social-media-criminals-and-terrorists-they-act/158843/


The recent shootings are "just a coincidence".

PAF
08-04-2019, 05:34 PM
Moving full speed ahead. Pre-crime. And the corporatist-lobbyists in bed with government to enhance the police state apparatus.

A. Havnes
08-04-2019, 06:06 PM
I don't use Facebook, but if you had an account set to private would it be covered by the Fourth Ammendment, or would it fall under the, in my opinion, blatantly unConstitutional Third Party Doctrin?

Regardless of semantics, the government should absolutely not be policing social media. That's basically the 21st century equivalent of phone tapping.

Stanleybolten
08-04-2019, 07:25 PM
I don't use Facebook, but if you had an account set to private would it be covered by the Fourth Amendment, or would it fall under the, in my opinion, blatantly unConstitutional Third Party Doctrin?

Regardless of semantics, the government should absolutely not be policing social media. That's basically the 21st century equivalent of phone tapping.

Because Facebook is considered private property, you may not have a fourth amendment guarantee.

However Alex Jones and others have said that Facebook is run by the CIA. If the CIA is proven to be operating Facebook, a social media platform then your profile may be subject to the fourth amendment guarantee but then by using a government operated platform you may be agreeing to waive your fourth amendment right voluntarily. Legally speaking that is.

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 07:28 PM
Because Facebook is considered private property, you may not have a fourth amendment guarantee.

However Alex Jones and others have said that Facebook is run by the CIA. If the CIA is proven to be operating Facebook, a social media platform then your profile may be subject to the fourth amendment guarantee but then by using a government operated platform you may be agreeing to waive your fourth amendment right voluntarily. Legally speaking that is.
The phone company is private but the FBI has no right to tap your phone.
The 4thA restricts government from unreasonable search and seizure of private entities.

showpan
08-04-2019, 07:58 PM
They already do tap phones without a warrant. They can sit in a neighborhood and download all of the contents of your phone without your knowledge. Not just your phone, everyone within range. They already monitor FB and social media and every electronic communication. Why they are asking for it is so they can actually act on all the info they collect. PAF is right, Pre-crime is coming to a town near you

TheCount
08-04-2019, 08:07 PM
The 4thA restricts government from unreasonable search and seizure of private entities.

You don't think that the internet is comprised of private entities, remember?

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 08:17 PM
You don't think that the internet is comprised of private entities, remember?
If internet companies are connected to the government it doesn't change anything, the FBI has no right to search the US mail without a warrant either.

Pauls' Revere
08-04-2019, 08:20 PM
Moving full speed ahead. Pre-crime. And the corporatist-lobbyists in bed with government to enhance the police state apparatus.

Minority Report: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Minority_Report

"The Minority Report" is a 1956 science fiction short story by American writer Philip K. Dick, first published in Fantastic Universe. In a future society, three mutants foresee all crime before it occurs. Plugged into a great machine, these "precogs" allow the Precrime Division to arrest suspects prior to any infliction of public harm. When the head of Precrime, John A. Anderton, is accused of murdering Leopold Kaplan, a man whom he has never met, Anderton is convinced a great conspiracy is afoot.

The story reflects many of Philip K. Dick's personal Cold War anxieties, particularly questioning the relationship between authoritarianism and individual autonomy. Like many stories dealing with knowledge of future events, "The Minority Report" questions the existence of free will.

PAF
08-04-2019, 08:22 PM
Dam, what was the name of that movie where they had Precog's (precognition) that would arrest people? with Tom Cruise I think?

Minority Report!

Pauls' Revere
08-04-2019, 08:26 PM
Minority Report!

Gotta see that again.

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-05-2019, 12:49 AM
Doesn't sound too bad until you realize the definition of terrorist will be expanded to posting funny memes containing the wrong opinion

A. Havnes
08-05-2019, 07:09 AM
The phone company is private but the FBI has no right to tap your phone.
The 4thA restricts government from unreasonable search and seizure of private entities.

Yes, but things like the Third Party Doctrin blows a huge loophole in that. Hence why, despite things like the Financial Privacy Act, local authorities still have the ability to seize things like bank statements without a warrant or any explanation. I think recently they decided they couldn't follow your phone, but otherwise you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy if your information is stored with someone else. Even if there's a privacy policy, that doesn't apply to LE.

Anti Globalist
08-05-2019, 07:21 AM
I bet the people they monitor and track will only be conservatives. If a mass shooting happens and a liberal is responsible, they'll just say that person fell though the cracks on their radar.

kpitcher
08-05-2019, 09:06 AM
They don't need a warrant to get phones. The patriot act gave the feds immense powers. Even if they don't blatantly ignore the laws, the feds will route national calls through Canada and suddenly it's international and no warrants needed. Who needs those pesky laws getting in the way?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Cap
08-05-2019, 09:09 AM
According to Trump in today's speech, he said it was He who was directing such minority report actions.