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Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 12:43 AM
Police and other emergency services in Ohio are responding to a shooting with multiple fatalities near downtown Dayton, local officials and witnesses say. Only few details are currently available.
It happened just after 1 a.m. on Sunday when police were called for an “active shooter” at or near a bar on East 5th Street in the Oregon District. Details about the circumstances of the shooting are not yet known.

More at: https://bnonews.com/index.php/2019/08/active-shooter-in-dayton-ohio/

Just a coincidence that we are having so many do close together.

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 12:48 AM
Police and other emergency services in Ohio are responding to a shooting with multiple fatalities near downtown Dayton, local officials and witnesses say. Only few details are currently available.
It happened just after 1 a.m. on Sunday when police were called for an “active shooter” at or near a bar on East 5th Street in the Oregon District. Details about the circumstances of the shooting are not yet known.

More at: https://bnonews.com/index.php/2019/08/active-shooter-in-dayton-ohio/

Just a coincidence that we are having so many do close together.
Its almost a no brainier will be using these two tragedy's to push and force Trump to accpet some kind of gun control legislation. This cant be a coincidence this is all happening after liberals lost their goldmine with Russia Gate narrative.

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 12:55 AM
Its almost a no brainier will be using these two tragedy's to push and force Trump to accpet some kind of gun control legislation. This cant be a coincidence this is all happening after liberals lost their goldmine with Russia Gate narrative.
Hopefully Trump will realize that he can't do any gun control heading into the election, not even an attempt at something "small" like the bumpstock ban.

phill4paul
08-04-2019, 01:07 AM
Hopefully Trump will realize that he can't do any gun control heading into the election, not even an attempt at something "small" like the bumpstock ban.

Trumps a populist. He loves to be loved, Just depends on which way the wind is blowing.

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 01:08 AM
Trumps a populist. He loves to be loved, Just depends on which way the wind is blowing.

Well better to have a populist then a crazy leftist.

Pauls' Revere
08-04-2019, 08:19 AM
Dam, woke up, logged on and now its Dayton Ohio. [sigh] :sorrow:

CoastieInColorado
08-04-2019, 08:22 AM
How many in Baltimore last night?

St. Louis?

Chicago?

Crickets.

spudea
08-04-2019, 08:38 AM
50+ people are shot in Chicago every weekend. The media is manipulating this shit for their agenda.

Anti Globalist
08-04-2019, 08:38 AM
All the Democrats will be using these shootings for the next couple weeks as talking points.

axiomata
08-04-2019, 09:18 AM
Well better to have a populist then a crazy leftist.

Not if crazy leftism is popular.

Brian4Liberty
08-04-2019, 09:18 AM
Copy cats. 24x7 coverage by the media doesn’t help. The scorecard is updated on Wikipedia as soon as an incident happens.

The El Paso shooter is currently in 8th place.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

PAF
08-04-2019, 09:20 AM
Hopefully Trump will realize that he can't do any gun control heading into the election, not even an attempt at something "small" like the bumpstock ban.

Yes, but like that pathetic Omnibus he promised not to sign but did, the "emergency" bill to help African "refugees", make Eminent Domain wonderful, signage of the USMCA, and the new idiotic Budget Deal, you will still stand proudly in line to vote for him, even if he DOES implement more gun control. Because republicans are so much better than democrats and republicans would never do those things. Right?

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 09:38 AM
Not if crazy leftism is popular.

Well if leftism is popular by draq queeing children and bringing back mental craziness.

Original_Intent
08-04-2019, 10:42 AM
Copy cats. 24x7 coverage by the media doesn’t help. The scorecard is updated on Wikipedia as soon as an incident happens.

The El Paso shooter is currently in 8th place.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

Looks like this guy in Dayton was going for the number 1 spot. They say with the gun, ammo, and body armor this guy had, if he hadn't been taken out in under a minute, they believe hundreds would have been killed.

In the 250th mass shooting in recent times in America, 10 dead, including the shooter, 26 wounded / injured at Dayton Oregon.
The unidentified shooter used a .223-caliber high-capacity magazine rifle and was wearing body armour and a mask or covering over his face.
“If the Dayton police had not gotten to the shooter in under a minute, hundreds of people in the Oregon District would be dead today,” Mayor Whaley said.

Valli6
08-04-2019, 12:51 PM
Strange. One of the victims was his younger sister. Maybe he was motivated by some kind of family dispute?

By DAN SEWELL and JOHN MINCHILLO Associated Press

DAYTON, Ohio (AP) — A gunman in body armor opened fire early Sunday in a popular entertainment district in Dayton, Ohio, killing nine people, including his sister, and wounded dozens of others before he was quickly slain by police, city officials said.

Connor Betts, 24, was killed by police less than a minute after he started shooting a .223-caliber rifle in the streets of Dayton’s historic Oregon District about 1 a.m. in the second U.S. mass shooting in less than 24 hours. Police haven’t released further information about Betts or publicly discussed a motive.

His 22-year-old sister Megan, the youngest of the dead, were all killed in the same area, police said. The other men and women who were killed ranged in age from 25 to 57.

(more) https://www.courthousenews.com/shooter-killed-9-in-ohio-including-his-sister

dannno
08-04-2019, 12:55 PM
Just a coincidence that we are having so many do close together.

C before D

(Coats before Declass)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCaSVG4hAI

Anti Federalist
08-04-2019, 12:58 PM
Yes, but like that pathetic Omnibus he promised not to sign but did, the "emergency" bill to help African "refugees", make Eminent Domain wonderful, signage of the USMCA, and the new idiotic Budget Deal, you will still stand proudly in line to vote for him, even if he DOES implement more gun control. Because republicans are so much better than democrats and republicans would never do those things. Right?

Gun control is the deal breaker for me.

Semi auto rifle ban, magazine ban, private sale ban...I'm out.

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-04-2019, 01:11 PM
if there was a mass shooting every day that still would be a lower body count than living in a country where citizens are unarmed

PAF
08-04-2019, 01:26 PM
Gun control is the deal breaker for me.

Semi auto rifle ban, magazine ban, private sale ban...I'm out.

If not this term, next term, he won't have to worry about reelection. After which a democrat will be elected and the same cycle continues.

Whatever "side" you happen to be on, it is one single Empire.

r3volution 3.0
08-04-2019, 01:59 PM
Might be just a general-purpose nutjob, no evident political motive as of yet.


Authorities have found writings linked to Dayton, Ohio, shooting suspect Connor Betts that show he had an interest in killing people, two federal law enforcement sources told CNN. A preliminary assessment of the writings, found during the execution of a search warrant, did not indicate any racial or political motive, the sources said.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ohio-shooting/index.html

Mach
08-04-2019, 02:00 PM
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

His parents’ accounts are active. --- On Facebook, his mom posted pictures of pumpkins, family, Christmas ornaments, Christian religious statues and a graphic that declared “stop the alt right.” She labeled a photo of Betts and an apparent sibling, “My loves.” His dad wrote on Facebook that he was a technical lead for a technologies corporation. Betts’ father posted about net neutrality and funny parody videos. He also shared a video that criticized the rhetoric of President Donald Trump.

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 02:05 PM
https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

His parents’ accounts are active. --- On Facebook, his mom posted pictures of pumpkins, family, Christmas ornaments, Christian religious statues and a graphic that declared “stop the alt right.” She labeled a photo of Betts and an apparent sibling, “My loves.” His dad wrote on Facebook that he was a technical lead for a technologies corporation. Betts’ father posted about net neutrality and funny parody videos. He also shared a video that criticized the rhetoric of President Donald Trump.

Sounds like he was a crazy lefty.

Mach
08-04-2019, 02:16 PM
Sounds like he was a crazy lefty.

He was, possibly, a Satanist type, the patch on his jacket reads... Against All Gods.... and pics of him after he was shot and cuffed have just been released, read the back of his shirt.

(edit: the shirt is supposedly from a metalcore band.)

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/connor-betts.jpg?quality=65&strip=all

---

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/photos-released-dead-killer-connor-betts-lying-on-sidewalk/

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/dead-connor-betts.jpg

Mach
08-04-2019, 02:22 PM
Dog metal?

This is where his shirt came from, listen at 1:43.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-YOG4_cEEg

r3volution 3.0
08-04-2019, 02:24 PM
Apparently the text on his shirt is a lyric from a song by a "deathcore" band called The Acacia Strain.

EDIT: Aha, ^^^, I'm assuming it's crap and don't especially want to listen to it. Has anyone else? Any particular theme?

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 02:27 PM
He was, possibly, a Satanist type, the patch on his jacket reads... Against All Gods.... and pics of him after he was shot and cuffed have just been released, read the back of his shirt.

(edit: the shirt is supposedly from a metalcore band.)

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/connor-betts.jpg?quality=65&strip=all

---

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/photos-released-dead-killer-connor-betts-lying-on-sidewalk/

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/dead-connor-betts.jpg

Seems he was into death metal? and that logo on his shirt. Very odd for a christian to be into a death metal/rap music genre, christian families are agaisnt such music.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Baphosimb.gif

Was he part of a cult by chance?

euphemia
08-04-2019, 02:31 PM
if there was a mass shooting every day that still would be a lower body count than living in a country where citizens are unarmed

If all citizens were armed, there likely would not be mass shootings.

r3volution 3.0
08-04-2019, 02:34 PM
Seems he was into death metal? and that logo on his shirt. Very odd for a christian to be into a death metal/rap music genre, christian families are agaisnt such music.

I'd wager that a disproportionate share of kids into death metal come from religious families.

Kids like to rebel, you know.

parocks
08-04-2019, 02:34 PM
C before D

(Coats before Declass)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCaSVG4hAI

Am I on RPF or 8ch/qresearch?

Zippyjuan
08-04-2019, 02:55 PM
24 years old- working at a gas station and Chipotle. Attends a community college studying psychology. Still lives at home with his parents. Registered Democrat.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/ohio-shooting-connor-betts-identified-police-dayton-gunman/1916170001/


One classmate of Connor Betts said he was bullied in high school. The classmate, Laura Wakeley, said that Betts responded by making up a list of people at the school he wanted to shoot in 2010 or 2011. "He had a plan to shoot up the high school," she told reporters near the home of Betts' parents in Bellbrook.

School officials tossed Betts out of school after making up the list but eventually let him back in, Wakeley said.


https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/


On social media, the suspect’s biography started to emerge. On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.”

On LinkedIn, Betts described himself as offering “extensive customer service experience” and described himself as “good under pressure. Fast learner. Eager to overachieve.” But his employment history consisted of service positions, and the warning signs might date to high school, when Betts may have written a hit list on a bathroom wall, WCPO-TV reported. Dayton police initially identified the shooter on Twitter as Conner Betts, but online and social media records give the spelling as Connor. In a press conference, police confirmed the correct spelling was Connor, not Conner.

According to Daily Beast, Betts’ sister, Megan, 22, and an unidentified male “were found shot” near the mass shooting scene. Betts arrived in the Oregon District with his sister and her “companion,” before the shooting, police said. At some point prior to the shooting they separated. Betts’ sister was not the first victim of the shooting, but was one of the initial victims. Police have not said if he was targeting his sister. Her companion was wounded, but not killed, and has talked to police, authorities said.


Scanner audio – and multiple Twitter reports – indicated the shooting was focused around Ned Peppers. The Ned Peppers’ website describes it as a “traditional western-ish themed bar located right in the heart of the Oregon District in Dayton Ohio.”

r3volution 3.0
08-04-2019, 03:02 PM
^^^Still sounding like a general purpose nutjob/loser/hates-everything type.

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 03:03 PM
24 years old- working at a gas station and Chipotle. Attends a community college studying psychology. Still lives at home with his parents. Registered Democrat.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/ohio-shooting-connor-betts-identified-police-dayton-gunman/1916170001/




https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/




One classmate of Connor Betts said he was bullied in high school
Very important to point out. It seems to me leftists and liberals have all forgotten about bullying, and mental health how bullying can cause such triggers. Thanks zippy for posting this you wont find this on CNN.

Makes you wonder by who was he bulled? to preserve this kind of hatred.

Zippyjuan
08-04-2019, 03:10 PM
^^^Still sounding like a general purpose nutjob/loser/hates-everything type.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzIWPeun7c


You see the world through your cynical eyes
You're a troubled young man I can tell
You've got it all in the palm of your hand
But your hand's wet with sweat and your head needs a rest
And you're fooling yourself if you don't believe it
You're kidding yourself if you don't believe it
Why must you be such an angry young man
When your future looks quite bright to me
How can there be such a sinister plan
That could hide such a lamb, such a caring young man

dannno
08-04-2019, 03:48 PM
Am I on RPF or 8ch/qresearch?

If there is a group of people trying to take down the federal reserve/deep state/banking/media cabal, you will see it here first.. on RPF.

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 03:57 PM
Yes, but like that pathetic Omnibus he promised not to sign but did, the "emergency" bill to help African "refugees", make Eminent Domain wonderful, signage of the USMCA, and the new idiotic Budget Deal, you will still stand proudly in line to vote for him, even if he DOES implement more gun control. Because republicans are so much better than democrats and republicans would never do those things. Right?
Any significant gun control will downgrade him from a least of all possible goods to a lesser of two evils and that will mean he doesn't get my vote.

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 04:02 PM
Am I on RPF or 8ch/qresearch?

The two aren't allowed to mix?

tfurrh
08-04-2019, 04:04 PM
You know I'd be against vaccines just so some of these losers never make it into adulthood.

oyarde
08-04-2019, 04:16 PM
24 years old- working at a gas station and Chipotle. Attends a community college studying psychology. Still lives at home with his parents. Registered Democrat.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/04/ohio-shooting-connor-betts-identified-police-dayton-gunman/1916170001/




https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

I knew it would be a young democrat . Seems to be the thing for them.

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 05:01 PM
Just another "coincidence":

Bill allowing concealed-carry without a permit advances in Ohio House (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537628-Bill-allowing-concealed-carry-without-a-permit-advances-in-Ohio-House)

Anti Globalist
08-04-2019, 06:33 PM
Wonder what kind of drugs were in his system.

Anti Federalist
08-04-2019, 07:42 PM
How many in Baltimore last night?

St. Louis?

Chicago?

Crickets.

At Least 3 Killed, 40 Wounded In Weekend Shootings Across Chicago

August 4, 2019

Mach
08-04-2019, 08:05 PM
8chan is supposedly shutting down now.

A bunch of instant reactors.

https://news.yahoo.com/8chan-become-meeting-place-extremist-005211664.html


"nearly 20,000 public boards"

Swordsmyth
08-04-2019, 08:14 PM
8chan is supposedly shutting down now.

A bunch of instant reactors.

https://news.yahoo.com/8chan-become-meeting-place-extremist-005211664.html


"nearly 20,000 public boards"

I don't think that guy currently controls 8chan so I don't know that it actually will shut down.

dannno
08-04-2019, 10:57 PM
Seems he was into death metal? and that logo on his shirt. Very odd for a christian to be into a death metal/rap music genre, christian families are agaisnt such music.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Baphosimb.gif

Was he part of a cult by chance?

The best death metal album of all time was made by a Christian death metal band (technically it's metalcore, but substantially is the same)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvevZKrHKk

AngryCanadian
08-04-2019, 11:10 PM
I don't think that guy currently controls 8chan so I don't know that it actually will shut down.

8chan wasn't really a place for hate though. Most topics there were mostly made by trolls. I don't think 8chan will shut down.

timosman
08-04-2019, 11:21 PM
https://twitter.com/theromandrake/status/1158210194679009281

1158210194679009281

tod evans
08-05-2019, 08:45 AM
Dayton shooter was apparently a self-professed ‘leftist,’ Warren & Sanders fan

https://www.rt.com/usa/465790-dayton-shooter-leftist-antifa/

Judging by his supposed activity on Twitter, the Dayton shooter appears to have held views opposite to those of the El Paso gunman from hours earlier. A now-suspended account, allegedly his own, implies he was a die-hard leftist.
Connor Betts, who has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people outside a Dayton bar on Sunday, allegedly ran a Twitter page under the handle @iamthespookster, in which he expressed anti-fascist, left-wing views, mostly by means of retweeting, with occasional original tweets.

Dayton shooter who killed 9 people outside local bar identified as 24yo Connor Betts Dayton shooter who killed 9 people outside local bar identified as 24yo Connor Betts
The account has now been suspended, though some of the tweets can still be accessed through web page archiving services. The page was unearthed by Heavy.com, which cited “several family linkages” and the images that appeared on the alleged shooter’s page and those of his relatives as proof that the account is authentic. Among the followers of the now-suspended page, there is Steve Betts (Stephen is the name of Connor Betts’ father), who in turn follows Meg Betts (Meghan was the name of his sister who was killed in the rampage). The appearance of the shooter in photos by police also matches several pictures posted by the account.

A brief scan of Betts’ alleged Twitter feed shows that he was a supporter of the Democratic Party, and not a fan of President Donald Trump. He urged people to “vote blue” and rallied behind Democratic presidential hopefuls Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. In one reply, he wrote he wouldn’t vote for Kamala Harris “cuz Harris is a cop.”

.........Tweeter stuff at link........

In his profile description, Betts described himself as a “leftist” and included a now ominous sounding prophecy: “I’m going to hell and I’m not coming back.”

Screenshots of his alleged posts circulating on Twitter show him expressing support for Antifa activist Willem Van Spronsen, who was killed by police last month after attempting an attack on an ICE detention center in Tacoma, Washington. Upon his demise, Spronsen became a “hero” and “martyr” among many anti-Trump people online.

Betts reportedly followed a number of Antifa accounts and retweeted their content.

Some of his posts going back several years appear to praise Satan, complete with a #HailSatan hashtag.

There has been no official confirmation of the Twitter page’s authenticity. Twitter suspended it shortly after its existence was publicized by Heavy and was noticed by multiple conservative users. They took the opportunity to spread the word in an effort to regain ground in the gun violence debate following the shooting in El Paso, which left 20 people dead 13 hours prior. There, the gunman is alleged to be a white supremacist on an anti-Hispanic crusade.

It is unclear whether Betts’ political beliefs, whatever they are, are what triggered or catalyzed the rampage. Police are still looking into his motives.

enhanced_deficit
08-05-2019, 10:53 AM
Gunman’s sister among victims in Dayton mass shooting (https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Police-investigate-active-shooter-incident-in-Dayton-Ohio-517763821.html)

At least nine people were killed and 27 people injured early Sunday in Dayton, Ohio.

By NBC NEWS, WSAZ News Staff |
Updated: Sun 4:53 PM, Aug 04, 2019


DAYTON, Ohio (NBC News/WSAZ) — UPDATE 8/4/19 @ 2:10 p.m.
At least nine people were killed and 27 people injured early Sunday when a gunman wearing body armor and carrying ammunition magazines opened fire in a crowded bar in Dayton, Ohio, officials said.
Nearly a dozen terrified patrons sought cover in a bathroom, not sure if people desperately pushing on the door to get in were other people seeking safety or the gunman.
The shooter has been identified by authorities as Connor Betts, a 24-year-old white male who lived in Dayton. He is believed to have acted alone. Betts was killed by responding officers, police said.
One of the victims has been identified by authorities as Betts' sister, 22-year-old Megan Betts.





Caution: Graphic scenes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h2SIBJ3Ajo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h2SIBJ3Ajo


Related
Trump condemns ‘racism, bigotry and white supremacy’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537659-Trump-condemns-‘racism-bigotry-and-white-supremacy’&)

Cap
08-05-2019, 11:29 AM
I wonder if his sister was really the intended target.

Cap
08-05-2019, 11:30 AM
I wonder if his sister was really the intended target.Who was she, anybody looked at that?

Philhelm
08-05-2019, 12:49 PM
Copy cats. 24x7 coverage by the media doesn’t help. The scorecard is updated on Wikipedia as soon as an incident happens.

The El Paso shooter is currently in 8th place.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

Rookie numbers.

Brian4Liberty
08-05-2019, 02:18 PM
Dayton shooter was apparently a self-professed ‘leftist,’ Warren & Sanders fan

https://www.rt.com/usa/465790-dayton-shooter-leftist-antifa/

Judging by his supposed activity on Twitter, the Dayton shooter appears to have held views opposite to those of the El Paso gunman from hours earlier. A now-suspended account, allegedly his own, implies he was a die-hard leftist.
Connor Betts, who has been identified as the gunman who killed nine people outside a Dayton bar on Sunday, allegedly ran a Twitter page under the handle @iamthespookster, in which he expressed anti-fascist, left-wing views, mostly by means of retweeting, with occasional original tweets.

Dayton shooter who killed 9 people outside local bar identified as 24yo Connor Betts Dayton shooter who killed 9 people outside local bar identified as 24yo Connor Betts
The account has now been suspended, though some of the tweets can still be accessed through web page archiving services. The page was unearthed by Heavy.com, which cited “several family linkages” and the images that appeared on the alleged shooter’s page and those of his relatives as proof that the account is authentic. Among the followers of the now-suspended page, there is Steve Betts (Stephen is the name of Connor Betts’ father), who in turn follows Meg Betts (Meghan was the name of his sister who was killed in the rampage). The appearance of the shooter in photos by police also matches several pictures posted by the account.

A brief scan of Betts’ alleged Twitter feed shows that he was a supporter of the Democratic Party, and not a fan of President Donald Trump. He urged people to “vote blue” and rallied behind Democratic presidential hopefuls Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. In one reply, he wrote he wouldn’t vote for Kamala Harris “cuz Harris is a cop.”

.........Tweeter stuff at link........

In his profile description, Betts described himself as a “leftist” and included a now ominous sounding prophecy: “I’m going to hell and I’m not coming back.”

Screenshots of his alleged posts circulating on Twitter show him expressing support for Antifa activist Willem Van Spronsen, who was killed by police last month after attempting an attack on an ICE detention center in Tacoma, Washington. Upon his demise, Spronsen became a “hero” and “martyr” among many anti-Trump people online.

Betts reportedly followed a number of Antifa accounts and retweeted their content.

Some of his posts going back several years appear to praise Satan, complete with a #HailSatan hashtag.

There has been no official confirmation of the Twitter page’s authenticity. Twitter suspended it shortly after its existence was publicized by Heavy and was noticed by multiple conservative users. They took the opportunity to spread the word in an effort to regain ground in the gun violence debate following the shooting in El Paso, which left 20 people dead 13 hours prior. There, the gunman is alleged to be a white supremacist on an anti-Hispanic crusade.

It is unclear whether Betts’ political beliefs, whatever they are, are what triggered or catalyzed the rampage. Police are still looking into his motives.

Yeah, time to move along. Nothing to see here.

When a deranged Antifa leftist kills people, is it still Trump’s fault?

r3volution 3.0
08-05-2019, 02:24 PM
It is unclear whether Betts’ political beliefs, whatever they are, are what triggered or catalyzed the rampage.

That's the key question.

He had political views, but that doesn't mean they motivated his crime.

Ted Bundy was a fairly active Republican: had nothing to do with why he killed people.

Unlike El Paso, there's no manifesto here.

The only thing that suggests he might have been political motivated, to my mind, is this:


Screenshots of his alleged posts circulating on Twitter show him expressing support for Antifa activist Willem Van Spronsen, who was killed by police last month after attempting an attack on an ICE detention center in Tacoma, Washington. Upon his demise, Spronsen became a “hero” and “martyr” among many anti-Trump people online.

Barring the emergence of a manifesto or something more substantial, though, I'm still going with degenerate loser.

Swordsmyth
08-05-2019, 10:08 PM
Ohio lawmaker Candice Keller blames gay marriage, ‘drag queen advocates’ for Dayton shooting (https://nypost.com/2019/08/05/ohio-lawmaker-candice-keller-blames-gay-marriage-drag-queen-advocates-for-dayton-shooting/)

Brian4Liberty
08-05-2019, 10:35 PM
Looks like Betts ran himself right into a firing squad. Good shooting by the Police.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIkj7-JIitU

aGameOfThrones
08-05-2019, 11:28 PM
Looks like Betts ran himself right into a firing squad. Good shooting by the Police.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIkj7-JIitU

If he had entered that place he would have had many more victims since the big crowd went in.

TheCount
08-06-2019, 01:04 AM
Am I on RPF or 8ch/qresearch?

As dannno's views have become less and less sustainable, he's become more and more desperate for something, anything, which will give him the 999D chess explanations that will fill the gaping holes. Hence, Q.

dannno
08-06-2019, 01:35 AM
As dannno's views have become less and less sustainable, he's become more and more desperate for something, anything, which will give him the 999D chess explanations that will fill the gaping holes. Hence, Q.

What do you mean? The tip of the iceberg just fell a couple weeks ago with Epstein.. this party has already gotten started.

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 01:40 AM
What do you mean? The tip of the iceberg just fell a couple weeks ago with Epstein.. this party has already gotten started.
Those who have the most to lose are the loudest.

Just ignore Baghdad Bob.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sFAtDw44yA

TheCount
08-06-2019, 04:37 AM
What do you mean? The tip of the iceberg just fell a couple weeks ago with Epstein.. this party has already gotten started.
Sounds legit.

dannno
08-06-2019, 11:42 AM
Might be just a general-purpose nutjob, no evident political motive as of yet.



https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ohio-shooting/index.html


Antifa, Elizabeth Warren supporter, AOC supporter


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uru6Fcecqfk

UWDude
08-06-2019, 06:52 PM
...and a loser "suffering" from depression and bi-polar. In fact, that was how he first bonded with his loser ex-girlfriend* they talked about the pains of their mental illnesses.

Very high chances just another mass shooter on SSRIs, being coddled by everyone around him, catering to their "sickness".







*who was cucking him, er, I mean, polyamorous.

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 09:57 PM
Vox found an obituary which says the Ohio gunman died in 2014 (http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/08/attack-of-zombie-gunmen.html)

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 10:01 PM
Also another good Vox find, victims of one shooting have an improbable tendency to show up near another (http://voxday.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-series-of-highly-improbable.html)

Mach
08-06-2019, 10:25 PM
More ANTIFA...

https://nypost.com/2019/08/06/dayton-shooter-may-be-antifas-first-mass-killer/


Dayton shooter may be antifa’s first mass killer
By Andy Ngo


Over the weekend, America suffered two mass shootings within hours of one another, in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio. These followed another mass shooting in Gilroy, Calif., a week earlier. The alleged perpetrators of the attacks were young, “lone-wolf” gunmen. All three carried out carnage against innocents using high-power rifles. All told, Santino *Legan (Gilroy), Patrick Crusius (El Paso) and Connor Betts (Dayton) killed 34 people and injured dozens more.

While the attacks are similar, the response from liberals and leftists has been anything but.

Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders succinctly condemned white nationalism — the ideology espoused by the El Paso shooter in his purported 2,300-word manifesto.

However, when it comes to condemning the Dayton shooter’s militant far-left views, all remain mum. Others, such as anti-police activist Shaun King, even claimed the Dayton shooter targeted blacks in a hate crime, though *racism doesn’t appear to have been a component of his twisted worldview.

While Betts, the Dayton shooter, didn’t leave behind a manifesto, his extensive social-media footprint provides clues as to what may have inspired him. Federal investigators announced Tuesday that they are looking into his exploration of violent ideologies.

Betts had long expressed support for antifa accounts, causes and individuals. That would be the loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of “anti-fascism.” In particular, Betts promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement.

“Kill every fascist,” the shooter declared in 2018 on twitter, echoing a rallying cry of antifa ideologues. Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent. “Nazis deserve death and nothing else,” he tweeted last October. Betts frequently flung the label “Nazi” at those with whom he disagreed online.

By December, he reached out on Twitter to the Socialist Rifle *Association, an antifa gun group, to comment about bump stocks, and the SRA responded to him. (A bump stock is an attachment for semiautomatic rifles that allow them to fire much faster.)

In the months leading to his rampage, Betts expressed a longing for climactic confrontation. In *response to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, “Yes, Let’s Defeat or Impeach Trump—but What If He Doesn’t Leave the White House?” the shooter wrote: “Arm, train, prepare.”

By June he tweeted: “I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding.” Last week, he promoted posts that demonized Sens. Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidy’s resolution against antifa extremism.

America’s historical and contemporary struggles with fringe far-right violence has provided politicians, leaders and media with blueprints to identify and confront that form of extremism. The national unity in rejecting violent white-nationalist ideologues like James Fields and Dylan Roof are emblematic of America’s resolve against the far right.


The unanimous rejection of the El Paso shooter’s beliefs, including by President Trump, once more demonstrated the nation’s resolve against hard-right hate. Yet when it comes to far-left violent extremism, there is a gaping blind spot in the mainstream discourse, and we are less safe because of it.

Beyond banal condemnations of violence, politicians and leaders must work to uproot far-left militant beliefs from mainstream politics. The Dayton shooter promoted the same virulently anti-law-enforcement rhetoric that too many mainstream figures on the left flirt with. And yet it was courageous police officers who finally ended his carnage when they shot and killed him outside the Ned Peppers Bar in Dayton’s entertainment district.

His case also makes clear that antifa’s violence goes far beyond the street hooliganism it has become infamous for. The group espouses the belief that liberal democracy is irredeemably oppressive — fascistic, even — and must be thoroughly destroyed.

Hence, acts of extreme violence against individuals, property and the state are seen as stepping stones, bringing us closer to the collapse of society and a new, more just societal order. As anyone familiar with 20th-century history knows, apocalyptic ideas of this kind won’t stop with street thuggery.

Last month, an antifa militant firebombed an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Tacoma, Wash. Police say Willem van Spronsen was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack. His gun had apparently malfunctioned before he could fire. In his manifesto, he called for his “comrades” to take up arms in confronting the ascendant fascism of the state. In one of Betts’ tweets *before he extinguished the lives of nine fellow Americans, he responded to a person asking if van Spronsen had been a “villain or martyr?”

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 12:39 AM
Dayton Shooter Was Atheist Left-winger and Misogynist Who Hated ICE, Wanted to “Kill All Fascists” (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/33049-dayton-shooter-was-atheist-left-winger-and-misogynist-hated-ice-wanted-to-kill-all-fascists)
So I guess we can assume that anti-nationalism causes mass-shootings?

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 06:58 PM
Pictures emerge of the Antifa shooter in Ohio wearing a dress and an Antifa mask in his band “Menstrual Munchies.” (https://summit.news/2019/08/06/pictured-ohio-shooter-wore-antifa-mask-and-womans-dress/)

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 07:05 PM
The man suspected of carrying out the mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio heard voices in his head, saying dark, evil things (https://www.theepochtimes.com/alleged-dayton-shooter-suffered-from-psychosis-heard-dark-evil-things-ex-girlfriend_3031925.html)

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 07:41 PM
The FBI says that it has opened a federal investigation into the Dayton mass shooting attack, stating that the shooter had been “exploring violent ideologies.” (https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1158837289478307840)

Swordsmyth
08-09-2019, 02:29 PM
Ohio shooter’s sister was actually his brother who had “transitioned.” (https://www.advocate.com/news/2019/8/07/report-sibling-killed-dayton-shooting-was-trans-man-jordan-cofer?)

Swordsmyth
08-09-2019, 02:47 PM
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Betts.jpg

dannno
08-09-2019, 02:52 PM
Pictures emerge of the Antifa shooter in Ohio wearing a dress and an Antifa mask in his band “Menstrual Munchies.” (https://summit.news/2019/08/06/pictured-ohio-shooter-wore-antifa-mask-and-womans-dress/)


Menstrual Munchies performing LIVE in Quincy, Illinois featuring vocals from Bill Nye Da Nazi Spy himself!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbgEaC0__Po

Swordsmyth
08-09-2019, 03:39 PM
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Betts.jpg

Do you notice anything about the "A" symbol?

dannno
08-09-2019, 03:53 PM
Do you notice anything about the "A" symbol?

Ya, I think it has something to do with MMA :p

Swordsmyth
08-09-2019, 03:55 PM
Ya, I think it has something to do with MMA :p
And messicans.

Anti Federalist
08-15-2019, 05:41 PM
The coroner said cocaine, antidepressants and alcohol were found in Betts’ system at the time of the shooting. A pipe device and a clear baggie carrying cocaine was found on Betts’ body.

https://apnews.com/c11e52c94be0473d9aed759275c3febe

UWDude
08-15-2019, 11:32 PM
Wonder what kind of drugs were in his system.

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/coroner-says-dayton-gunman-had-cocaine-alcohol-antidepressants-in-his-system-during-the-mass/976356130

Coroner says Dayton gunman had cocaine, alcohol, anti-depressants in his system