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Swordsmyth
07-18-2019, 07:54 PM
Thousands of Puerto Ricans took to the streets of Old San Juan to demand the ouster of Governor Ricardo Rosselló following corruption investigations (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/puerto-rico-s-former-education-secretary-others-arrested-federal-fraud-n1028251) and the leaking of 889 pages (http://periodismoinvestigativo.com/2019/07/las-889-paginas-de-telegram-entre-rossello-nevares-y-sus-allegados/) of text messages revealing him to be vindictive, sexist and profane - including against those who died following Hurricane Maria.
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Demonstrations started with hundreds of people, then grew to the thousands. The growth was reflected on Twitter as the hashtag #RickyRenuncia (Resign Ricky), (https://twitter.com/Nicolemarie_A/status/1150843621685571586)a shortened version of his name, Ricardo, and it was trending worldwide Monday.
Until Wednesday night, the rallies had been largely peaceful. On Monday night, about two dozen police officers were injured during a protest, and at least five protesters were arrested, authorities said. -NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1030866)
On Wednesday night protesters broke past a barricade at the governor's mansion, resulting in the deployment of tear gas. "By early hours Thursday, the old city of San Juan resembled a war zone, with police chasing protesters through the streets while firing rubber bullets, gas canisters and what appeared to be flash bombs," according to NPR (https://www.npr.org/2019/07/18/742957579/puerto-rican-police-fire-tear-gas-at-huge-protests-over-governors-texts).


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Pictures from San Juan, Puerto Rico where marchers are moving to the Governors mansion pic.twitter.com/wiCtOACWI2 (https://t.co/wiCtOACWI2)
— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 17, 2019 (https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1151625247042473986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/pr%20goes%20off.jpg

I’ve looked at this video from San Juan 20 times.
I now see something thrown from the protester side into the police side.
There’s a flash.
Then, you see an officer holding something that ignites in his hand.
Then police move in on protesters. pic.twitter.com/xEnN8dPRix (https://t.co/xEnN8dPRix)
— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) July 18, 2019 (https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1151748535517372422?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Some of the island's biggest stars such as Ricky Martin and reggaeton artist Benito Martinez Ocasio (aka Bad Bunny) turned out to rally a crowd for this week's second mass demonstration against the embattled government.


More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-18/thousands-puerto-rico-protesters-turn-streets-san-juan-war-zone-over-corrupt

Zippyjuan
07-18-2019, 08:54 PM
Trump heaps praise on San Juan's mayor, Puerto Rican governor.

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https://www.npr.org/2019/07/18/742957579/puerto-rican-police-fire-tear-gas-at-huge-protests-over-governors-texts


Streets A 'War Zone' As Protesters Call For Puerto Rico's Governor To Resign


Some of Puerto Rico's biggest stars rallied a crowd of many thousands in San Juan on Wednesday, calling on the island's governor, Ricardo Rosselló, to resign. It was the fifth day in a row of protests in the U.S. territory, following a leak of hundreds of pages of misogynistic and homophobic texts between the governor and his main advisers.

During the day, trap artist Bad Bunny and singer Ricky Martin were among the huge crowd that marched to the governor's mansion.

Tensions ratcheted up in the evening as protesters burst through a barricade at the governor's mansion and security forces fired tear gas at the crowd, causing many to flee into surrounding streets. A livestream from Puerto Rican news site El Nuevo Día showed chaotic scenes of demonstrators confronting riot police a few minutes after midnight local time.

By early hours Thursday, the old city of San Juan resembled a war zone, with police chasing protesters through the streets while firing rubber bullets, gas canisters and what appeared to be flash bombs.

Earlier, demonstrators wearing gas masks and hard hats set a pile of garbage on fire in a plaza, and police quickly fired tear gas at them. A street was shown littered with debris and broken glass.

As El Nuevo Día reported, police spokesperson Axel Valencia said five people were arrested and two people were reported injured.

He said several senior police officers were in the area and ordered the protesters to stand down.

"They were given verbal commands to cease and desist what they were doing. They were throwing rocks, quarter sticks of dynamite. They were throwing many things," Valencia said, according to the news site. "You all saw how close they got to the fences of the perimeter, and well, there came a moment when our personnel had to use tear gases."

The protests have been gaining momentum every day with high-profile support, including from Lin-Manuel Miranda, who led a demonstration in New York calling on Rosselló to step down.

oyarde
07-18-2019, 09:01 PM
Trump heaps praise on San Juan's mayor, Puerto Rican governor.

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https://www.npr.org/2019/07/18/742957579/puerto-rican-police-fire-tear-gas-at-huge-protests-over-governors-texts

What did trump say there that was wrong ?

Zippyjuan
07-18-2019, 09:01 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/us/puerto-rico-governor-rossello-private-chats/index.html


These are some of the leaked chat messages at the center of Puerto Rico's political crisis

Protesters took to the streets in recent days after nearly 900 pages from the messaging app Telegram were published by Puerto Rico's Center for Investigative Journalism.

The governor and 11 top aides and Cabinet members exchanged profanity-laced, homophobic and misogynistic messages about fellow politicians, members of the media, celebrities and others in a scandal many are calling "RickyLeaks." The messages were sent in December 2018 and January 2019.

"I will continue my work and my responsibility to the people of Puerto Rico," the governor told reporters Tuesday.

The scandal has already led to the resignations of two members of Rosselló's Cabinet.

Here are some targets of the offending exchanges.

Former New York City Council speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito

Rosselló apologized last week after the leak of a chat message in which he referred to Melissa Mark-Viverito, the Puerto Rico-born former speaker of the New York City Council, using the Spanish word for "whore."

The governor wrote that he was upset Mark-Viverito had criticized Tom Perez, chair of the Democratic National Committee, for backing statehood for Puerto Rico.

"Our people should come out and defend Tom and beat up that whore," Rosselló wrote.

Mark-Viverito traveled to the island to join protesters in their calls for the governor to resign.

"A person who uses that language against a woman, whether a public figure or not, should not govern Puerto Rico ...this type of behavior is completely unacceptable," she wrote on Twitter.

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz is frequent critic of the governor.

In the chat, Christian Sobrino Vega -- who was Puerto Rico's chief fiscal officer at the time, and Roselló's representative on the federal board responsible for managing Puerto Rico's financial crisis -- expressed frustration with Yulín Cruz.

"I am salivating to shoot her," he wrote.

"You'd be doing me a grand favor," the governor responded, according to the leaked chats.

At one point, the governor writes that Yulín Cruz must be "off her meds" by deciding to run against him.

"Either that, or she's a tremendous HP," he said, using the Spanish acronym for "son/daughter of a bitch."

Yulín Cruz belongs to the opposition Popular Democratic Party and is running for governor.

Sobrino Vega and Secretary of State Luis Rivera Marin, who also participated in the chats, have both resigned.

Puerto Rican singer Ricky Martin

In the chats, Sobrino Vega made vulgar references to Puerto Rican star Ricky Martin's sexuality.

"Nothing says patriarchal oppression like Ricky Martin," he wrote.

"Ricky Martin is such a male chauvinist that he f---- men because women don't measure up. Pure patriarchy."

Martin and other artists on the island took to social media to condemn Rossello's government and call for his resignation.

Pauls' Revere
07-18-2019, 10:02 PM
Calling the mayor despicable is praise????

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Donald J. Trump

realDonaldTrump
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A lot of bad things are happening in Puerto Rico. The Governor is under siege, the Mayor of San Juan is a despicable and incompetent person who I wouldn’t trust under any circumstance, and the United States Congress foolishly gave 92 Billion Dollars for hurricane relief, much....

Swordsmyth
07-18-2019, 10:04 PM
Calling the mayor despicable is praise????

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Donald J. Trump

@real (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=68777)DonaldTrump
· 13h

A lot of bad things are happening in Puerto Rico. The Governor is under siege, the Mayor of San Juan is a despicable and incompetent person who I wouldn’t trust under any circumstance, and the United States Congress foolishly gave 92 Billion Dollars for hurricane relief, much....
Is zippy admitting she is really much worse than despicable?

Pauls' Revere
07-18-2019, 10:06 PM
Is zippy admitting she is really much worse than despicable?

Or Dyslexia?

kona
07-18-2019, 10:12 PM
I don't doubt that all of this is going on, but personally I know a few people in PR, and even now they say it's great. Of course, they are not native, and only moved there so they could legally pay zero taxes, as PR is a tax haven for Americans (though not for Puerto Ricans).

Peter Schiff also lives there and loves it.

dannno
07-18-2019, 10:22 PM
I don't doubt that all of this is going on, but personally I know a few people in PR, and even now they say it's great. Of course, they are not native, and only moved there so they could legally pay zero taxes, as PR is a tax haven for Americans (though not for Puerto Ricans).

Peter Schiff also lives there and loves it.

I'm champing at the bit.. can't wait for bitcoin to shoot the moon again. (champing? seriously?)

kona
07-18-2019, 10:49 PM
I'm champing at the bit.. can't wait for bitcoin to shoot the moon again. (champing? seriously?)
I don't understand...

donnay
07-19-2019, 03:53 AM
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Swordsmyth
07-21-2019, 11:44 PM
Puerto Rico Governor Ricardo Rossello announced late on July 21 that he will step down as head of his party and will not run for re-election in 2020, but stopped short of resigning as governor.
Rossello made the announcement in a video message posted to Facebook.
El Nuevo Dia reported (https://www.elnuevodia.com/noticias/locales/nota/ricardorossellonocorreraalagobernacionenel2020-2507064/) that Rossello said he resigned as head of the New Progressive Party (NPP) to focus on leading the country, and looked forward to the process of impeachment, whose initial stages have begun in Puerto Rico’s legislature.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/puerto-rico-governor-resigns-party-232346095.html

euphemia
07-22-2019, 05:37 AM
Is zippy admitting she is really much worse than despicable?

Again, I ask you to look back at the visuals. All the time she claimed her people were suffering with no water or power, she was always freshly showered, coiffed, made up, and well fed.

ThePaleoLibertarian
07-22-2019, 06:41 AM
The guy may be a corrupt scumbag, but the idea that private text messages can destroy a person is a truly terrible development. Either the culture is going to change, or every one of us will be ruined eventually.

Swordsmyth
07-22-2019, 03:23 PM
President Trump (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/donald-trump) on Monday blasted Puerto Rico's Ricardo Rosselló as “a terrible governor” just hours after the leader of the U.S. territory announced he would not seek re-election (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/puerto-rico-governor-announces-he-will-not-seek-re-election-but-refuses-to-resign) amid corruption allegations that have led to widespread protests across the island.
The governor, however, is refusing to resign.
“The governor is not good,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “The U.S. gave Puerto Rico $92 billion and it’s in the hands of terrible and corrupt people…You have grossly incompetent leadership.”

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slams-puerto-ricos-rossello-as-a-terrible-governor-following-refusal-to-step-down

Swordsmyth
07-24-2019, 11:01 PM
https://twitter.com/javimorgado/status/1154239296003543040

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UWDude
07-24-2019, 11:33 PM
This looks like exactly where foreign (oops) meddling is good. Lots of swamp getting drained in Peurto Rico.
Pin one falls.

aGameOfThrones
07-24-2019, 11:54 PM
The guy may be a corrupt scumbag, but the idea that private text messages can destroy a person is a truly terrible development. Either the culture is going to change, or every one of us will be ruined eventually.

I have no love for that dirty democrat governor, but we didn't march like this against taxes, for statehood or for the many corrupt politicians before. Now, for a private chat--why not.

Anyway, he resigned. BTW, the SJ mayor is no better.

Swordsmyth
07-31-2019, 11:52 PM
The lawyer tapped to succeed Puerto Rico's outgoing governor faced opposition on Wednesday largely over conflict of interest concerns, two days before the bankrupt U.S. territory's top executive plans to bow to the demands of protesters and resign.Governor Ricardo Rosselló formally nominated the island's former nonvoting representative in the U.S. Congress, Pedro Pierluisi, as secretary of state, which would position Pierluisi to take over the government if he is confirmed by lawmakers.
But some members of Rosselló's New Progressive Party voiced opposition, citing Pierluisi's role as a lawyer advising the federally created financial oversight board directing Puerto Rico's bankruptcy, which is highly unpopular with residents.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/outgoing-puerto-rico-governor-nominates-123933743.html

Swordsmyth
08-03-2019, 04:51 PM
Trump administration pulling $8 billion in aide to Puerto Rico until their leadership issues are worked out (https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-delays-puerto-ricos-disaster-funding-awaiting-political-stability-11564768381)

Swordsmyth
08-05-2019, 12:50 AM
Puerto Rico's constitutional crisis was expected to deepen on Monday after the island's Senate filed a lawsuit seeking to oust a veteran politician recently sworn in as the island's governor as legislators squabble over who should lead the U.S. territory.The lawsuit seeks a preliminary injunction ordering Pedro Pierluisi to cease his functions immediately and also asks that the court declare unconstitutional a 2005 law that states a secretary of state does not have to be approved by both House and Senate if he has to step in as governor.
"Puerto Rico is living a situation without historical precedent," wrote Senate President Thomas Rivera Schatz.
Pierluisi was named secretary of state, the next in line to be governor, in a recess appointment last week. The island's House of Representatives then confirmed him to the position in a 26-to-21 vote on Friday, a move he argues makes him the replacement for Gov. Ricardo Rosselló.
However, the Senate had not yet voted on the appointment, and it was expected to do so Monday afternoon. It was not immediately clear if that would still happen after the lawsuit was filed late Sunday night.


Puerto Rico's constitution says the secretary of state takes over if the governor steps down, and one amendment states that everyone in line to become governor has to be confirmed by both the House and Senate, except for the secretary of state. Legal experts, however, question the amendment's validity and believe Pierluisi must be confirmed by both chambers because the amendment contradicts the intent of the constitution and its statement of motives.
Pierluisi has said the upcoming Senate vote is a moot point because he already is governor.
"They're having a hearing for themselves," he said on Sunday, two days after stating that if the Senate votes against his appointment as secretary of state, he would step down and hand the governorship to the justice secretary, the next in line under the constitution.
Pierluisi added that he spoke by phone on Saturday with Senate President Thomas Rivera Schatz, who is running for governor in the 2020 general election. Schatz has said he has doubts about Pierluisi and insists that a Senate confirmation is necessary.
Further complicating the situation was an announcement made earlier by Carmen Yulín Cruz, mayor of the Puerto Rican capital of San Juan. She said she will file a lawsuit Monday morning questioning whether Pierluisi had the right to be sworn in on Friday.
The crisis could now drag on for days or even weeks, with legal experts saying Puerto Rico's Supreme Court will likely issue the final decision if the Senate does not approve of Pierluisi as secretary of state and he declines to relinquish his position. A well-respected attorneys' organization has accused Pierluisi of "hijacking" the constitution.
Those who oppose Pierluisi said having him as governor represents a serious conflict of interest because he worked for a firm that represented a federal control board overseeing the island's finances amid a 13-year recession.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/puerto-rico-crisis-deepens-amid-044248521.html

invisible
08-05-2019, 09:33 AM
Look at that. People taking to the streets to cast off a corrupt government. People who either haven't been raised on a steady diet of propaganda, or either know it for what it is and reject it. People who would be excellent allies in the fight for liberty, if they were reached out to instead of being called names and demonized. What you see in the OP is what those demonizing immigrants are afraid of, people who are determined to be free and refuse to be ruled by corrupt governments.

Cap
08-05-2019, 09:36 AM
Look at that. People taking to the streets to cast off a corrupt government. People who either haven't been raised on a steady diet of propaganda, or either know it for what it is and reject it. People who would be excellent allies in the fight for liberty, if they were reached out to instead of being called names and demonized. What you see in the OP is what those demonizing immigrants are afraid of, people who are determined to be free and refuse to be ruled by corrupt governments.So much truth.

invisible
08-05-2019, 09:51 AM
So much truth.

But the trumpettes and shylls will claim that this truth is somehow a lie. They will claim that they can read the minds of millions of people and attempt to scare everyone by saying repeatedly that they are socialists. The OP proves them dead wrong. I haven't seen anywhere in news of this event that people in PR are taking to the streets because they want socialism, everything I have read about this story is that they are casting off a corrupt government who is ripping their country off, just like our own government does.

Cap
08-05-2019, 09:58 AM
Right now the (ahem)Super/Shylls are hoping for the forums short attention span.

dannno
08-05-2019, 12:21 PM
Look at that. People taking to the streets to cast off a corrupt government. People who either haven't been raised on a steady diet of propaganda, or either know it for what it is and reject it. People who would be excellent allies in the fight for liberty, if they were reached out to instead of being called names and demonized. What you see in the OP is what those demonizing immigrants are afraid of, people who are determined to be free and refuse to be ruled by corrupt governments.


So much truth.

Yep, that's why Trump supports the people in Puerto Rico against their corrupt government. You may have gotten the opposite impression from zippy's commentary on his post. I think he was trying to be sarcastic, but because he is zippy, it came off really bad because it was the opposite of what he posted in the link.

Swordsmyth
08-05-2019, 03:18 PM
Look at that. People taking to the streets to cast off a corrupt government. People who either haven't been raised on a steady diet of propaganda, or either know it for what it is and reject it. People who would be excellent allies in the fight for liberty, if they were reached out to instead of being called names and demonized. What you see in the OP is what those demonizing immigrants are afraid of, people who are determined to be free and refuse to be ruled by corrupt governments.


So much truth.
So much garbage, they want MORE socialism.

Swordsmyth
08-05-2019, 03:19 PM
Yep, that's why Trump supports the people in Puerto Rico against their corrupt government. You may have gotten the opposite impression from zippy's commentary on his post. I think he was trying to be sarcastic, but because he is zippy, it came off really bad because it was the opposite of what he posted in the link.
Trump supports them in this case and so should we because they are right but they are not potential allies in any long term sense, they want MORE socialism.

dannno
08-05-2019, 03:25 PM
Trump supports them in this case and so should we because they are right but they are not potential allies in any long term sense, they want MORE socialism.

Well right now Puerto Rico is a huge tax haven. They can shut that down if they want, but it would not work out well. The number of people with a lot of money who would pick up and leave is too great. Then they can see how well socialism works.

invisible
08-06-2019, 09:09 AM
Called it, of course. These shylls are so predictable! Attempting to claim that an uprising against corruption is something in favor of socialism is simply more TDS (trump Delusional Syndrome) and propaganda.

dannno
08-06-2019, 09:17 AM
Called it, of course. These shylls are so predictable! Attempting to claim that an uprising against corruption is something in favor of socialism is simply more TDS (trump Delusional Syndrome) and propaganda.

Ok smartypants, then why did Trump support the uprising?

Did you believe zippy's "sarcastic" post without actually reading it?

Swordsmyth
08-06-2019, 08:26 PM
Called it, of course. These shylls are so predictable! Attempting to claim that an uprising against corruption is something in favor of socialism is simply more TDS (trump Delusional Syndrome) and propaganda.
I never said the uprising was in favor of socialism, get your eyes checked.


Trump supports them in this case and so should we because they are right but they are not potential allies in any long term sense, they want MORE socialism.

invisible
08-07-2019, 09:27 AM
See post #27. Perhaps it's your brain that needs to be checked, lol.

Cap
08-07-2019, 09:39 AM
Post #27
So much garbage, they want MORE socialism.Yeah, he got caught lying there. It must be really hard keeping all those talking points straight.

dannno
08-07-2019, 10:19 AM
See post #27. Perhaps it's your brain that needs to be checked, lol.


Post #27Yeah, he got caught lying there. It must be really hard keeping all those talking points straight.

I think he was responding to the part where you said they want to be "free"

Ya, they want to be "free" of "corrupt leadership", but then they are just going to clamor for more corrupt leadership.

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 04:58 PM
See post #27. Perhaps it's your brain that needs to be checked, lol.


Post #27Yeah, he got caught lying there. It must be really hard keeping all those talking points straight.

No, the people of Puerto Rico DO want more socialism, that doesn't change just because they are currently protesting corruption.

I specifically said they are right in this case and we should support them in this case.

Swordsmyth
08-07-2019, 09:04 PM
Several weeks after Former Puerto Rican Gov. Ricardo Rossello resigned following a mass protest movement dedicated to ousting him, the commonwealth's Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that the oath of office given to his handpicked successor was unconstitutional, clearing the for Justice Secretary Wanda Vazquez Garced to become the island's next governor.
The unanimous decision, according to CNN, (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us/puerto-rico-new-governor-court-decision/index.html) found that last week's swearing in of Pedro Pierluisi was unconstitutional because he hadn't been confirmed as secretary of state (the island's legislature was in recess and thus couldn't vote to confirm him).
If Pierluisi had been confirmed, he would have been constitutionally next in line to become governor. But since he wasn't, the line of succession goes next to Vazquez Garced.


The ruling will take effect at 5 pm Wednesday to "ensure an orderly succession."
The legal challenge was brought by Senate president Thomas Rivera Schatz, a rival of Rosselló's who reportedly has his sights on winning the governorship one day.
The ruling is just one element of the infighting that has gripped Rosselló's New Progressive Party. The ruling also raises the prospect of deepening political turmoil, since neither candidate is widely supported by Puerto Rico's population.


In a statement released late last month, Vázquez Garced said she didn't want to serve as governor.

Me reitero, no tengo interés en ocupar el puesto de Gobernadora. Es un dictamen Constitucional. Espero que el señor Gobernador identifique y someta un candidato para el puesto de Secretario/a de Estado antes del 2 de agosto y así se lo he manifestado.
— Lcda Wanda Vázquez Garced (@wandavazquezg) July 28, 2019 (https://twitter.com/wandavazquezg/status/1155532888462548992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) After the ruling, she released the following statement

Declaración de la Secretaria de Justicia, Wanda Vázquez Garced: pic.twitter.com/AHK1hdryZq (https://t.co/AHK1hdryZq)
— Lcda Wanda Vázquez Garced (@wandavazquezg) August 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/wandavazquezg/status/1159164241515098112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-07/puerto-ricos-supreme-court-invalidates-swearing-new-governor

Swordsmyth
08-09-2019, 09:06 PM
The revolving door at the governor's office in Puerto Rico may finally stop with Wanda Vazquez, the newly sworn-in chief executive of the bankrupt U.S. territory, who said on Thursday she has no plans to resign.In a series of interviews with local media, Puerto Rico's former justice secretary denied reports that she had agreed to resign soon to allow Jenniffer Gonzalez, the Caribbean island's nonvoting representative in the U.S. Congress, to take over.
"I have never had such agreement. I don't know what kind of agreements (New Progressive Party and legislative leaders) have reached," Vazquez said on a morning radio show, emphasizing that she intends to remain in office for the remainder of former Governor Ricardo Rossello's term, which ends on Jan. 1, 2021.


Vazquez last week initially voiced reluctance to take over the island's top government post after being targeted by protesters for alleged corruption and being too close to Rossello.
On Thursday, Vazquez said she did not see herself as a politician, emphasizing she would not run for governor in the 2020 election.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/puerto-ricos-governor-says-she-183619665.html