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dannno
06-18-2019, 05:37 PM
From a campaign stop in 2016:


“But it wasn’t the Iraqis, you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center,” said (https://www.infowars.com/trump-vows-elect-me-and-youll-find-out-who-really-knocked-down-the-twin-towers/) Trump at a campaign event in South Carolina. “Because they have papers in there that are very secret, you may find it’s the Saudis, okay? But you will find out.”


From 20/20 interview last weekend (transcript is available, video is difficult to find):


Editor’s note: Despite evidence of President Trump making this statement in the transcript of the interview, it has been extremely difficult to find video footage of him making this statement; which naturally begs the question why this would be the case, especially considering he is the President of the United States.

President Trump revealed he thinks he knows who was behind the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center.

Trump was discussing how America’s military venture into the Middle East was the “worst decision made in the history of our country” before he dropped the bombshell claim during his interview with ABC anchor George Stephanopoulos at the White House over the weekend.

“Iraq did not knock down the World Trade Center,” said (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-abc-news-george-stephanopoulos-exclusive-interview-president/story?id=63749144) Trump to Stephanopoulos on Sunday’s episode of 20/20. “It was not Iraq. It [was] other people.”

“And I think I know who the other people were. And you might also.”

Trump went on to mention how America’s entry into the Middle East illustrates the country’s misguided budget priorities.

“It was a terrible decision to go into the Middle East. Terrible,” said Trump. “We’re now up to almost $8 trillion.”


https://www.infowars.com/trump-i-think-i-know-who-was-behind-9-11/

tfurrh
06-18-2019, 10:11 PM
It wasn't Iraqis? Duh.

dannno
06-18-2019, 10:13 PM
It wasn't Iraqis? Duh.

Reading the first quote is required for context.

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-18-2019, 10:26 PM
the country is so doped up on xanax it would just be a cool factoid instead of something to get riled up over

UWDude
06-18-2019, 11:50 PM
RUSSIA!!

Anti Globalist
06-19-2019, 06:58 AM
Too bad the Saudis are never going to be punished for it.

jmdrake
06-19-2019, 07:23 AM
From a campaign stop in 2016:

“But it wasn’t the Iraqis, you will find out who really knocked down the World Trade Center,” said Trump at a campaign event in South Carolina. “Because they have papers in there that are very secret, you may find it’s the Saudis, okay? But you will find out.”



From 20/20 interview last weekend (transcript is available, video is difficult to find):




https://www.infowars.com/trump-i-think-i-know-who-was-behind-9-11/


Too bad the Saudis are never going to be punished for it.

Yeah. Trump flirts with 9/11 trutherism more than any other mainstream politician and it hasn't hurt him politically. He even talked about "bombs in the building."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-ldMj9y9w

And yet, even though Saudi Arabia was likely involved and Trump knows this, even though it's now admitted by Saudi Arabia that they brutally murdered a journalist who had been living in the United States, that didn't stop Trump from green lighting a weapons deal that brings the Saudi's closer to nuclear weapons.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-iran-iraq-saudi-arabia
"I don't think Saudi Arabia is all of the sudden going to be overrun by Iran if we don't sell more weapons to them, and neither do I think Iran is going to be overrun by Saudi Arabia. I think there's somewhat of a standoff between the two and a counterbalance.

"But I think just continuing to dump arms into this cauldron is fuelling an arms race and particularly nuclear technology. If Saudi Arabia should misuse nuclear technology, Iran will quickly follow ... So if you had three regional powers all within about a couple hundred miles of each other with nuclear weapons, I think that would be the worst disaster any of us could imagine."

unconsious767
06-19-2019, 08:57 AM
What about israel (https://www.ancreport.com/blog/think-dancing-israelis/), president don don?

Swordsmyth
06-19-2019, 06:23 PM
Too bad the Saudis are never going to be punished for it.


Yeah. Trump flirts with 9/11 trutherism more than any other mainstream politician and it hasn't hurt him politically. He even talked about "bombs in the building."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-ldMj9y9w

And yet, even though Saudi Arabia was likely involved and Trump knows this, even though it's now admitted by Saudi Arabia that they brutally murdered a journalist who had been living in the United States, that didn't stop Trump from green lighting a weapons deal that brings the Saudi's closer to nuclear weapons.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rand-paul-iran-iraq-saudi-arabia
"I don't think Saudi Arabia is all of the sudden going to be overrun by Iran if we don't sell more weapons to them, and neither do I think Iran is going to be overrun by Saudi Arabia. I think there's somewhat of a standoff between the two and a counterbalance.

"But I think just continuing to dump arms into this cauldron is fuelling an arms race and particularly nuclear technology. If Saudi Arabia should misuse nuclear technology, Iran will quickly follow ... So if you had three regional powers all within about a couple hundred miles of each other with nuclear weapons, I think that would be the worst disaster any of us could imagine."
Trump is destroying them by helping US oil production to keep prices too low for the Saudis to survive.

Zippyjuan
06-19-2019, 06:32 PM
Trump is destroying them by helping US oil production to keep prices too low for the Saudis to survive.

Trump doing an amazing job of lowering oil prices! What was it he did in 2014 to make that happen again?

https://www.worldoil.com/media/7653/eia-forecast.png

1121844339200540672

Swordsmyth
06-19-2019, 06:44 PM
Trump doing an amazing job of lowering oil prices! What was it he did in 2014 to make that happen again?

https://www.worldoil.com/media/7653/eia-forecast.png

1121844339200540672
The oil price must stay lower than the Saudis need for an extended period in order to destroy them, Trump has done many things to help the US oil industry so that it will.

Zippyjuan
06-19-2019, 06:49 PM
The oil price must stay lower than the Saudis need for an extended period in order to destroy them, Trump has done many things to help the US oil industry so that it will.

What oil price can they survive on? How low will hurt them? Oil shale needs a higher price to be profitable so low prices hurt us more than them (on the other hand, our government does not rely on oil revenues for a large portion of its budget).
https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fima ges%2F437395%2Fsaudi-production-cost.jpg&w=700&op=resize

Swordsmyth
06-19-2019, 06:52 PM
What oil price can they survive on? How low will hurt them?
https://g.foolcdn.com/image/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fg.foolcdn.com%2Feditorial%2Fima ges%2F437395%2Fsaudi-production-cost.jpg&w=700&op=resize
The Saudis need at least $80 a Bbl to keep their regime in power and many other Gulf tyrannies need similar prices.

eleganz
06-19-2019, 06:55 PM
What oil price can they survive on? How low will hurt them?

LOL TDS is freaking insane.

Thread about Trump and 9/11 starts, TDS Zip instantly jumps in...

Oil prices not very low...OJ man bad!

Derp...

Zippyjuan
06-19-2019, 06:58 PM
The Saudis need at least $80 a Bbl to keep their regime in power and many other Gulf tyrannies need similar prices.

Or maybe not.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenrwald/2017/11/01/no-imf-saudi-arabia-doesnt-actually-need-70-oil/#7811199f7ee5


No IMF, Saudi Arabia Doesn't Actually Need $70 Oil


The International Monetary Fund (IMF) gave a presentation on its regional economic outlook for the Middle East yesterday, and there was one point that the media latched on to. The IMF announced the budgetary break-even points it had calculated for oil exporters for 2018. Saudi Arabia, the IMF asserted, will need to sell oil at $70 per barrel in order for the country to fully fund its 2018 budget.



Regardless, Saudi Arabia has never funded its budget directly off of oil revenue and has, over the years, adjusted Aramco’s tax burden.

Keep in mind, also, that the oil company, Aramco, has the lowest cost of production of any oil company in the world – between $2 and $10 per barrel. The oil in Saudi Arabia is comparatively easy to access. Since Saudi Arabia purchased the company, Aramco always has been able to fund its own budget and capital expenditures. For Aramco—not the Kingdom—the breakeven number is quite low and even lower since the tax rate was dropped.

Saudi Arabia has the cash reserves to withstand its budget deficit, as is. At the end of 2016, Saudi Arabia’s cash reserves stood at $547 billion. In the first half of 2017, the Saudi deficit was cut in half, to only $19.38 billion. Even with no return on the cash reserves, Saudi Arabia could continue a deficit at that rate for more than a decade.

Running a deficit is not alarming, especially compared to countries that operate in a perpetual state of severe debt like the U.K., the U.S., France and Japan.

Saudi Arabia is changing where its government spends money. The government is moving away from a welfare state model and is spending more on programs intended to promote economic growth. The goal is to diversify the economy so that in coming years the government and the people will rely less and less on the price of oil. Even if these plans fall short of their ambitions, new business is moving into the country and bolstering new and ignored sectors of the economy.

As a stable country, Saudi Arabia has no difficulty finding parties to finance debt, including bonds and lines of credit. Thanks to global central banks and the U.S. Federal Reserve, interest rates are very low. It has proven worthwhile for Saudi Arabia to take on debt over the last few years even while maintaining large amounts of cash. This is normal for a modern country.

Zippyjuan
06-19-2019, 07:01 PM
LOL TDS is freaking insane.

Thread about Trump and 9/11 starts, TDS Zip instantly jumps in...

Oil prices not very low...OJ man bad!

Derp...

Swordsmyth changed the topic to oil prices.

Is a day and a half later "instantly"? How long should one wait before joining a thread?

Swordsmyth
06-19-2019, 07:03 PM
Or maybe not.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenrwald/2017/11/01/no-imf-saudi-arabia-doesnt-actually-need-70-oil/#7811199f7ee5

I'm sure the Saudis want people to believe that.

enhanced_deficit
06-19-2019, 07:06 PM
This statememt if confirmed as non-fakenews would be huge and yet another sign that MAGA is bold and leads from the front. Conservative critics like Coulters, GOA leaders, Joe Walshs of America who had called MAGA 'scam' may have to regret and take back their claims.
Would be best if MAGA repeats this statement in a tweet one of these weekends.




https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/trump-birther-tweet.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHPDzUOe2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHPDzUOe2U


Since he frequently contradicts himself his statements can't be trusted at all, you have to watch his actions to even guess about his positions or plans.

But you would have to concede that he is a straight shooter and one of the most honest politicians to win elections after making verbal statements post WWII.



https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5ab137d892c069f27e8b47cb-750-375.jpg

https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/article_images/trump_saudiceremonydance_getty.jpg?itok=cD0BcOfn



What about israel (https://www.ancreport.com/blog/think-dancing-israelis/), president don don?


While above dance photo could rule out Saudi but that does not mean it was our closest ally.
Granted they have been accused of f-flags (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535606-Oman-Gulf-Oil-Tankers-on-Fire-1-Sunk-(Tonkin-v2-0-)&p=6812843&viewfull=1#post6812843) in the past, our agecies and America-First wing of investigative media would have already exposed it if Deep Zionism was behind it.





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jmdrake
06-20-2019, 04:56 AM
Trump is destroying them by helping US oil production to keep prices too low for the Saudis to survive.

:rolleyes: Trump didn't invent fracking and that started well before his presidency.

Swordsmyth
06-20-2019, 06:35 PM
:rolleyes: Trump didn't invent fracking and that started well before his presidency.
And that's not what I said he did.

jmdrake
06-20-2019, 06:50 PM
And that's not what I said he did.

The price of oil being low has nothing to do with Trump.

Swordsmyth
06-20-2019, 06:55 PM
The price of oil being low has nothing to do with Trump.
Yes it does, he has opened up lots of territory to drilling and reduced regulations.

Origanalist
06-20-2019, 06:56 PM
The price of oil being low has nothing to do with Trump.

Everything has something to do with Trump. Because he does things, lots of things, the best things. You'll see.

jmdrake
06-20-2019, 06:59 PM
Yes it does, he has opened up lots of territory to drilling and reduced regulations.

Wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billconerly/2018/11/15/why-are-oil-prices-dropping-sharply-global-economy-forecast-softer/#52b157f697a8

Swordsmyth
06-20-2019, 07:03 PM
Wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billconerly/2018/11/15/why-are-oil-prices-dropping-sharply-global-economy-forecast-softer/#52b157f697a8
There are many factors involved, I never said he was solely responsible but he is doing what he can.

jmdrake
06-20-2019, 07:10 PM
There are many factors involved, I never said he was solely responsible but he is doing what he can.

Like ending the Iran nuclear deal. That's really driving down oil prices. :rolleyes:

Swordsmyth
06-20-2019, 07:30 PM
Like ending the Iran nuclear deal. That's really driving down oil prices. :rolleyes:
He has other priorities, I don't agree with all of them.
But oil is too low for the Saudis so he seems to be able to pursue all of them at once.

And he doesn't want oil too low or it will hurt the American oil industry.