Now progressives are calling for reparations for gay people

[Swordsmyth]

This is the call for reparations that proves that any and all calls for reparations are lunacy and should be disregarded.
In The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/opinion/gay-reparation-stonewall.html?login=smartlock&auth=login-smartlock) on Saturday an op ed was written by Omar G. Encarnación that called for reparation, not for black people, but for the gay community.

More at: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/new-demand-progressives-reparations-gay-people

[phill4paul]

This is the call for reparations that proves that any and all calls for reparations are lunacy and should be disregarded.
In The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/opinion/gay-reparation-stonewall.html?login=smartlock&auth=login-smartlock) on Saturday an op ed was written by Omar G. Encarnación that called for reparation, not for black people, but for the gay community.

More at: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/new-demand-progressives-reparations-gay-people

Wow if you are black and gay you're really gonna make out under socialism!

[jkr]

I wonder how the children of American slaves feel bout that...

[Danke]

We live in a circus.

6519

[RonZeplin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46u-RmW7L2o

[Origanalist]

We live in a circus.

6519


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn2Y1r8uLZ4

[nikcers]

The progressives think they can throw money at everything to fix it. This is what happens when you worship the government.

[spudea]

At least it's not calling for monetary compensation for all gay people. Mostly just an official apology from the state.

[Swordsmyth]

At least it's not calling for monetary compensation for all gay people. Mostly just an official apology from the state.
This is the thin end of the wedge, they use the word "reparations" with the purpose of conditioning people so they can demand money for all gays later.

[Anti Globalist]

Transgenders will start calling for reparations soon too.

[jkr]

honk HONK

[Anti Federalist]

I wonder how the children of American slaves feel bout that...

Hopefully angry enough that they start tearing each other apart, like the lesbians and trans fagggots are.

[jmdrake]

I wonder how the children of American slaves feel bout that...

Long answer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzS7DIkOn88


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsk2qYY9bY&t=1198s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt4Q041lDik&t=196s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MqJ5vnqoL0

Short answer: Extending the reparations debate to every possible group imaginable does nothing but dilute and ultimately destroy the question of reparations for slavery. And it's dishonest. Gays weren't forced to work for free for being gay. There was not a history of "gay lynching" in America. You didn't have whole gay communities ethnically cleansed in the 20th century the way you had with blacks in Rosewood Florida, Forsythe County Georgia, or Tusla Oklahoma (black Wallstreet). Look back to the Civil Rights movement and you will find that civil rights activist and openly gay male, Byron Rustin pled to a lesser sentence for having sex in California park with another man then he would have gotten if he had been having sex with a woman. Public schools and universities didn't bar gays from attending for being gay. Their behavior could be punished, but not their personhood.

So yes. Many descendants of slaves resent every other "group" piggybacking off our struggle. Alexandria Ortega Cortez wants reparations for Latinos? For what exactly? Obama went out of his way to help every other group BUT black people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuC2TiCks5o

Blacks actually lost economic ground under Obama.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_FtXiKg4es

That has not been lost on (some) black people.

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/05/nw_052112_domcvr.jpg

[jmdrake]

Hopefully angry enough that they start tearing each other apart, like the lesbians and trans fagggots are.

Why would you want anyone to tear themselves apart? I don't wish that on white people....though that is happening.

[Anti Federalist]

Why would you want anyone to tear themselves apart? I don't wish that on white people....though that is happening.

Because they have declared open warfare on me and mine.

I was all about live and let live...I was not a "border warrior"...I was not a "culture warrior"...until it became clear just what this "movement" has planned.

You should wish it on piece of shit, white, self loathing progressives.

The society they are rushing headlong to create, and having great success at, will be as hellish for your colored kids as it will be for my white ones.

Fuck them.

May they die in the streets choking on each other's entrails.

[Philhelm]

This is the call for reparations that proves that any and all calls for reparations are lunacy and should be disregarded.
In The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/14/opinion/gay-reparation-stonewall.html?login=smartlock&auth=login-smartlock) on Saturday an op ed was written by Omar G. Encarnación that called for reparation, not for black people, but for the gay community.

More at: https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/new-demand-progressives-reparations-gay-people

How will gay be defined? Can I get reparations if I scarf down another man's hog, or do I have to like it too?

[Philhelm]

I was all about live and let live...I was not a "border warrior"...

What's funny is that it's not even a secret. Immigration is blatantly being used in order to game the "democratic" system. The left openly cheers on demographic change as a solution to breaking what they perceive as the "conservative" voting bloc, while some people supposedly on our side won't even acknowledge that's what they are trying to achieve, despite the proponents clearly spelling it out (or acknowledging that their superior, pure libertarian goals will be crushed as a result). You like freedom of speech, guns, and protection from search and seizure? Well, here's a bazillion people (-10%, if we're lucky) who don't give a shit. Fuck you.

[jmdrake]

Because they have declared open warfare on me and mine.

I was all about live and let live...I was not a "border warrior"...I was not a "culture warrior"...until it became clear just what this "movement" has planned.

You should wish it on piece of $#@!, white, self loathing progressives.

The society they are rushing headlong to create, and having great success at, will be as hellish for your colored kids as it will be for my white ones.

$#@! them.

May they die in the streets choking on each other's entrails.

They who? I certainly haven't. There are white people who have declared war on me and mine. I don't let that affect me. And some of those white people are not "progressives."

[enhanced_deficit]

Not clear yet if GOP-MAGA wing supports or opposes such reparations but contributions of Don Sr and Don Jr in cultivating global pro LGBTQ civil rights leadership cannot be ignored.



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/09/04/15/43E5F7DA00000578-4851124-image-m-13_1504534674117.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/766652495858896897/LjrJJB9a_bigger.jpg Donald Trump Jr.‏ Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr

This is a really big deal and with @Richardgrenell at the helm it will get done!!! Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081 … (https://t.co/rICBRuJ7GK) via @nbcnews (https://twitter.com/NBCNews)

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...41928128204801 (https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1097941928128204801)


https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5944c7fd2100002a0033cae5.jpeg?cache=drpg827gpx&ops=scalefit_720_noupscale
Gay Teacher Of The Year Fans LGBTQ Pride In Viral Photo With Donald Trump
Nikos Giannopoulos “celebrates the joy and freedom of gender nonconformity” in a photo with Donald and Melania Trump.



24th May 2019

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/2019/05/Trump-Pride-t-shirts_640x345_acf_cropped.jpg

The Trump Pride Tee. (donaldjtrump.com) US President Donald Trump is marketing a “Trump Pride Tee” in his online shop, next to “Make America Great Again” hats.

Trump is selling ‘LGBTQ for Trump’ T-shirts for Gay Pride month (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535185-Trump-is-selling-‘LGBTQ-for-Trump’-T-shirts-for-Gay-Pride-month&)

Trump admin. launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531719-Trump-admin-launches-global-effort-to-end-criminalization-of-homosexuality&)

[Anti Federalist]

They who? I certainly haven't. There are white people who have declared war on me and mine. I don't let that affect me. And some of those white people are not "progressives."

Then you are a better man than me...it does affect me.

[phill4paul]

They who? I certainly haven't. There are white people who have declared war on me and mine. I don't let that affect me. And some of those white people are not "progressives."

Socialists.

[phill4paul]

Because they have declared open warfare on me and mine.

I was all about live and let live...I was not a "border warrior"...I was not a "culture warrior"...until it became clear just what this "movement" has planned.



Yup. A destruction of the Euro-Centric ideal of government limitation. That "piece of paper" was all but dead through Fed. Gover. public school indoctrination.

And now, every anyone from anywhere ever walks across the border, spends a month processing, and is dumped in an American town. 100k+ a month. We aren't even talking about Mexican citizens here. We are talking far southern states and now African citizens.
This isn't Ellis Island. It's not even anywhere close.
And I'm gonna call this reporting that all those that cross over turn themselves in and declare for "asylum."
That's fake news bullshit.
You can't tell me that an individual is financially brought over by coyotes and not told to head to X location with the contents in their back pack.
Do the fucking progressives on the forum believe that there is a 100% apprehension rate of all crossing the border because they immediately turn themselves in?
I fucking don't.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

One of the many, many problems with progressives is that they have no limiting principle. There's no vision of "enough", or if there is, it's so vague that it might as well not exist. Once reparations are deemed a good, why on Earth should it stop with blacks, from their point of view? Every nonwhite, non-male group has some claim to grievance that needs to be resolved under this rubric.

[Swordsmyth]

One of the many, many problems with progressives is that they have no limiting principle. There's no vision of "enough", or if there is, it's so vague that it might as well not exist. Once reparations are deemed a good, why on Earth should it stop with blacks, from their point of view? Every nonwhite, non-male group has some claim to grievance that needs to be resolved under this rubric.
And then someone else will be chosen as the devil incarnate that must pay everyone else when white men have been enslaved or exterminated.

[Swordsmyth]

This is the thin end of the wedge, they use the word "reparations" with the purpose of conditioning people so they can demand money for all gays later.
Democratic Presidential nominees appear to be in a race to the bottom, or lowest common identity-politics denominator as their virtue-signaling knows no bounds.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/2019-06-23_11-12-33.jpg
After a week of discussions about reparations for slavery - soundly dismissed by numerous African American speakers (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-20/we-dont-need-another-apology-congressional-hearing-erupts-boos-black-student) - Senator Elizabeth Warren has tried to outdo her opponents by seeking reparations for another group of repressed and long-suffering individuals.
Warren reintroduced the Refund Equality Act, a bill that would allow same-sex couples to amend past tax returns and receive refunds from the IRS.



“The federal government forced legally married same-sex couples in Massachusetts to file as individuals and pay more in taxes for almost a decade,” Warren said in a statement.
“We need to call out that discrimination and to make it right - Congress should pass the Refund Equality Act immediately.”
As NBC News reports, (https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/warren-introduces-bill-unlock-millions-tax-refunds-denied-gay-couples-n1019531) a report by the Joint Committee on Taxation released Tuesday (https://www.jct.gov/publications.html?func=startdown&id=5196) estimated that taxpayers who were in same-sex marriages prior to the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013 would be eligible for up to $57 million in refunds. Warren introduced a version of the bill in 2017 (https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/proposed-bill-could-provide-same-sex-couples-67m-tax-refunds-n782951).

I’m glad to introduce the Refund Equality Act in the Senate. Our bill ensures legally-married, same-sex couples can claim the tax refunds they earned, but were denied before marriage equality was the law of the land. https://t.co/01rgfSiXUQ
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) June 20, 2019 (https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1141725302915325952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-23/elizabeth-warren-demands-reparations-gay-and-lesbian-couples

That didn't take long.

[Pauls' Revere]

Soooo,...what about the Native Americans?

[Stratovarious]

They who? I certainly haven't. There are white people who have declared war on me and mine. I don't let that affect me. And some of those white people are not "progressives."

So what is 'me an mine' ?

[Stratovarious]

Can we 'has' reparations for the assaults and Sexual harassment we have received from gays ?

Why not, 'that's different' ? No its' not different........

[Stratovarious]

I wonder how the children of American slaves feel bout that...
I wonder how the children of the Whites that died freeing the slaves feel about that.

[Swordsmyth]

Soooo,...what about the Native Americans?

Fauxcahontas' handlers won't let her talk about them anymore.

[Stratovarious]

And then someone else will be chosen as the devil incarnate that must pay everyone else when white men have been enslaved or exterminated.


Historical slavery of Whites makes US slavery of Blacks a miniscule blemish, infraction at best.

[jmdrake]

So what is 'me an mine' ?

Black people. I thought that was obvious. I don't see your point though. Just because there are white people who have declared a de facto war against black people doesn't mean I have to reciprocate. And this war has been ongoing. It didn't end with slavery. Look at Rosewood, Forsythe County Georgia, Black Wallstreet in Oklahoma and many other towns were black people set up their own thing without any government assistance besides the initial land grant (which everybody got) and were thriving. The story became all too familiar. One black man would get falsely accused of raping a white woman (in the case of Rosewood the real rapist was a white man and everybody knew it), the white mob would demand a lynching to satisfy their blood lust, if the black town tried to defend itself it would get wiped off the map. When John Conyers first put forward a reparations bill there were still Rosewood survivors alive! They did finally get some reparations, but that was thanks to their story being made into a movie by John Singleton of Boyz N Da Hood fame. But the money they got was pennies on the dollar for the value of the land stolen. I keep hearing AntiFederalist say that all he wants is "peaceful separation." Well....black people tried that. Multiple times. I'm curious though. White people on this forum play identity politics all of the time and it doesn't seem to make you nervous. Why are you bothered by a black man saying "me and mine?"

[jmdrake]

Historical slavery of Whites makes US slavery of Blacks a miniscule blemish, infraction at best.

LOL. :rolleyes: Indentured servants were eventually freed. And their children were not generally considered slaves. And the towns they set up when they were freed were not razed to the ground because one of them was falsely accused of a crime. But okay, delude yourself all you want.

[Stratovarious]

LOL. :rolleyes: Indentured servants were eventually freed. And their children were not generally considered slaves. And the towns they set up when they were freed were not razed to the ground because one of them was falsely accused of a crime. But okay, delude yourself all you want.
Blsht, go back to school, I'm not talking about US or any indentured servants .... :frog:

Slavery, black slavery is a tiny dot by comparison historically, that doesn't mean the last couple hundred
years in America or anywhere else.

:facepalm:

[Stratovarious]

Black people. I thought that was obvious. I don't see your point though. Just because there are white people who have declared a de facto* war against black people doesn't mean I have to reciprocate. And this war has been ongoing. It didn't end with slavery. Look at Rosewood, Forsythe County Georgia, Black Wallstreet in Oklahoma and many other towns were black people set up their own thing without any government assistance besides the initial land grant (which everybody got) and were thriving. The story became all too familiar. One black man would get falsely accused of raping a white woman (in the case of Rosewood the real rapist was a white man and everybody knew it), the white mob would demand a lynching to satisfy their blood lust, if the black town tried to defend itself it would get wiped off the map. When John Conyers first put forward a reparations bill there were still Rosewood survivors alive! They did finally get some reparations, but that was thanks to their story being made into a movie by John Singleton of Boyz N Da Hood fame. But the money they got was pennies on the dollar for the value of the land stolen. I keep hearing @AntiFederalist (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=1866) say that all he wants is "peaceful separation." Well....black people tried that. Multiple times. I'm curious though. White people on this forum play identity politics all of the time and it doesn't seem to make you nervous. Why are you bothered by a black man saying "me and mine?"

Utter, paranoid nonsense, the klan doesn't really amount to much and whatever the fuch else
you're referring too is your own hysterical paranoia , I know of no one that has a war on Blacks,
de facto or otherwise.
* I'm pleased though that you finally learned a new phrase from me, I hope you don't
use it in every post though........ : )

[Anti Federalist]

I keep hearing AntiFederalist say that all he wants is "peaceful separation." Well....black people tried that. Multiple times. I'm curious though. White people on this forum play identity politics all of the time and it doesn't seem to make you nervous. Why are you bothered by a black man saying "me and mine?"

Not nervous about it all, I'm very much in favor of it.

Burgess Owens makes a pretty airtight case that blacks were much better off when they were separate and independent, or least independent of piece of shit white progressives.

[enhanced_deficit]

If it went to SCOTUS while MAGA is on office or if Don Jr got elected, liberals and progressives may get a favorable ruling under such bold leadership.


Related

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon14.png Trump appointed SCOTUS judge joins liberal bloc again (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535998-Trump-appointed-SCOTUS-judge-joins-liberal-bloc-again&)

[Swordsmyth]

If it went to SCOTUS while MAGA is on office or if Don Jr got elected, liberals and progressives may get a favorable ruling under such bold leadership.


Related

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon14.png Trump appointed SCOTUS judge joins liberal bloc again (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535998-Trump-appointed-SCOTUS-judge-joins-liberal-bloc-again&)
LOL

You are getting desperate.

Gorsuch was right in the case your link leads to and he reduced government power, he will never vote for the government to take money from one group and give it away to another.

[jmdrake]

Utter, paranoid nonsense, the klan doesn't really amount to much and whatever the fuch else
you're referring too is your own hysterical paranoia , I know of no one that has a war on Blacks,
de facto or otherwise.
* I'm pleased though that you finally learned a new phrase from me, I hope you don't
use it in every post though........ : )

:rolleyes: I didn't say those who have declared a de facto war against black people stand much of a chance numbnuts. I don't think anyone who may have declared a de facto war against white people stand much of a chance either. Really you are about as bright as a box of rocks.

[jmdrake]

Not nervous about it all, I'm very much in favor of it.

Burgess Owens makes a pretty airtight case that blacks were much better off when they were separate and independent, or least independent of piece of $#@! white progressives.

Hello. I didn't mean to imply you were one of those nervous. I just mentioned you because you brought up peaceful separation. You didn't make an issue of me using the term "me and mine" like that idiot Stratovarious did.

[Champ]

Can libertarians/ancaps get all of the benefits of reparations as well, since we have been scorned, ridiculed, harassed, ignored, ostracized, bullied, antagonized, mocked, patronized, and all of the other endless things "qualifying undesirable" groups get thrown their way?

[jmdrake]

Blsht, go back to school, I'm not talking about US or any indentured servants .... :frog:

The gab icon. Why am I not surprised? Anyway, the U.S. congress, which gave reparations to Ford and GM as a reward for their treason during World War II (go back to school yourself dumbass), has no authority or reason to address what happened even before the U.S. was founded.

[jmdrake]

Can libertarians/ancaps get all of the benefits of reparations as well, since we have been scorned, ridiculed, harassed, ignored, ostracized, bullied, antagonized, mocked, patronized, and all of the other endless things "qualifying undesirable" groups get thrown their way?

Randy Weaver wasn't exactly a libertarian/ancap, but....

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-08-16-mn-35756-story.html

[Stratovarious]

:rolleyes: I didn't say those who have declared a de facto war against black people stand much of a chance numbnuts. I don't think anyone who may have declared a de facto war against white people stand much of a chance either. Really you are about as bright as a box of rocks.

I didn't either, that's twice in a day that you have called names, but you're black so you get a
pass here, is that right.

fo, name caller .


:facepalm:

[Stratovarious]

The gab icon. Why am I not surprised? Anyway, the U.S. congress, which gave reparations to Ford and GM as a reward for their treason during World War II (go back to school yourself dumbass), has no authority or reason to address what happened even before the U.S. was founded.

Make that three times in one day that you attack one member with name calling , but then
that's what moderation is for , selective , so you get a pass, I do it in defense and
get banned, you , hey '' what does it matter at this point'' HRC


:facepalm: